#Anti good omens

[wherethestoriesare]

i dont know. it was fine. it was fun even. enjoyable.

but i am slightly disappointed that what i thought was a more qpr aroacespec relationship is not actually rep for us.

im still happy for the rest of the queer community though. aros & aces are used to it by now

#anti good omens #good omens 2 #aromantic #asexual #aspecs #lets face it we dont get a huge amount of rep #season 1 seemed pretty good for us #but i guess its not ours after all #im sure neil gaiman had his reasons #there'll be another show at some point #we'll always have elementary #aromanticism #qpr #good omens spoilers

[fandomsnerd]

I have so many feelings about good omens s2, but i think my main takeaway is just- the last fucking 10 mins wound up getting people so riled up that no one is even talking about how incredibly middling the rest of the season was.

#good omens #anti good omens #not really? idk #critical good omens #? #personal #like s1 to s2? wild. wild quality difference

[icedsodapop]

I wake up, I open this hellapp and see this zionist show trending. Y'all are the same people who can't fucking boycott Eurovision... 👀

#neil gaiman and michael sheen support Israel shut the fuck up #anti good omens #anti neil gaiman

[casasupernovas]

i'm glad to know i'm not the only one who thinks the new series of good omens isn't great. and i haven't even finished it yet. i'm not impressed so far.

#anti good omens #good omens

[gay-jewish-bucky]

anyways if you're a gomens fan and are demanding only amazon negotiate with actors and writers for no other reason than you want season 3, you're selfish and don't actually care about the workers being exploited by every single studio

like... do you not see the optics of "i only care about the strike ending as long as i get what i want out of it", you're being manipulated into blaming the strike for not getting your precious show renewed instead of being mad at the studios exploiting their workers

#personcole #anti good omens #anti good omens fandom #anti good omens fans #anti neil gaiman #anti neilman

[therealvinelle]

Since you hated the angels in SPN (i can't disagree with you about how they butchered them for people who are religious)

What do you think of good omens if you read/watched it?

I've both read and watched it!

I think it's a very good book and a very good adaptation, though I prefer the book and don't plan on seeing the upcoming season of the show.

At the risk of ruffling feathers, I think the best parts of the book came from Pratchett, I really like Gaiman's work (Having read American Gods, Coraline, and one of his short story collections) but... the two authors have different strengths, I think I'll say, and Good Omens played more on Pratchett's strengths than Gaiman's.

Mainly, with Gaiman, my issue is that while he comes up with very good concepts and has the prose to back his ideas up, he can't really carry a plot through to a satisfying end. His short stories are great because it doesn't become a problem, his attempt to write full length stories tend to suffer.

That being said, reading Good Omens you get the idea the authors wrote it to have fun and mess around with nifty characters and "hehe well what if 'his number shall be' was actually referring to a phone number!". Power to them, I'm guilty of the same when I cowrite with @theoriginalcarnivorousmuffin, but the thing that strikes me about Good Omens is that there's a lot that... doesn't actually need to be in the book.

Let's say that we take out Shadwell, Madame Tracy, Anathema, and Newt Pulcifer.

How does this change things?

We lose out on a lot of the fun interactions that make Good Omens what it is, but the story wouldn't actually change at all. Perhaps they don't have to, I rather enjoy that Aziraphale and Crowley risked everything to prevent the Apocalypse, the novel is about an angel and a demon preventing the Apocalypse, only for them to not matter at all as Adam makes the decision on his own: but rather than ending the book on a punchline as the entire cast just sort of stands around awkwardly wondering if they can congratulate themselves when they uh haven't done anything, there's instead the soaring music of "They did it!"

"Uh, what did they do?"

"Something, I'm sure!"

Very Good Omens of them, but there's a strange dissonance where it seems we really are meant to think they did something.

Adam too is an odd character, in that he has been the unknowing God of his little world who is strongly implied to have created The Them (quite literally, given how his power seems to work). He is a facsimile of a human, one who seems to very much want a perfect human life and is capable of creating this for himself, but in doing so becomes so artificial that the weather reports give Newt the creeps.

And yet we don't... do anything with him. He's too humanised to come across as what I described above, but not human enough for me to not see him the way I do. He's just sort of there.

So yes, I have complaints about Good Omens, but overall it truly is a delightful book, just one where I would have chosen differently from the authors at many points.

#good omens #anti good omens #neil gaiman #anti neil gaiman #terry pratchett #good omens negativity #(I tag conscientiously for other fandoms because they don't know to block me yet) #adam young #good omens meta

[blueberrysconematurity]

It pisses me off that these Michael Sheen super stans call "Prodigal Son" stupid.

Your queerbaiting Good Omens is stupid and you can shove it.

#anti Michael sheen #anti good omens #prodigal son #was awesome

[petrodragonicapocalypse]

the entire 4.5 hours of good omens 2 has nothing on 30 seconds of literally any king gizzard music video

#sorryyyy for being a hater. if u liked it then no beef peace n love #me and my gf watched gila monster immediately after finishing gomens2 and when i saw cavs' stupid face i actually started crying #there is still beauty in this world #anti good omens #my posts

[akhmatowa]

Why on Earth would Gaiman put a *brothel* in the new season. What a tasteless decision in a light-hearted show.

#gos2spoilers #good omens spoilers #good omens season 2 #anti good omens #I GUESS. #masha.txt

[bisansastarks]

Im ngl I didn’t enjoy s2 of good omens the way you guys did and I’m a little tired of the ship

#sorry! I just think it should have stayed one season #it’s one book #and terry prachet isn’t here anymore #also I don’t hate an asexual reading of them tho I do like they went canon #it’s complicated I guess? #the lightest #anti good omens

[airasilver]

No hate but Good Omens is becoming annoying. At least the fandom part is….

Okay, okay the damn ship is the most annoying part of it. It’s like Destiel. You see it everywhere and you can’t stop seeing it.

#good omens #opinion #anti good omens #fandom

[foolishlovers]

they shouldn’t have made good omens more interesting than work if they wanted me to do my job

#huge news: thinking about good omens is anti-capitalist!! #won’t be getting any work done thinking about these two idiots #😵‍💫 #good omens #ineffable husbands #send help #foolish talks #x

[icedsodapop]

Me looking at the Jinn and Salim's love story from American Gods: RIP Jinn x Salim, who should have gotten the same hype that Aziraphale x Crowley gets that they will never get becos they are both Brown and Muslim and society loves to center White people 😒😒😒

#american gods #anti good omens #fandom racism #jinn x salim

[most-normal-eccles-cake-ignorer]

Good Omens: Lockdown and Crowley not mentioning his living situation in S2*

*till S2E6 when he asks if he can have his apartment back bc he's bored of living in his car but Aziraphale doesn’t hear bc mentally he’s in Alpha Centauri.

Having read the 'Crowley doesn't tell him' Neil Gaiman ask close to when I first listened to Lockdown (I lived under a rock until recently), my initial thought was HAS HE BEEN LIVING IN HIS CAR FOR YEARS?! but I think he was still in his apartment in 2020:

as far as Hell knows, Crowley just had a pool party in holy water (the holiest) so the higher-ups are probably willing to give him some space (plus Beelzebub is busy going on pub dates w Gabriel)

while there should be ~8 months between the end of Season 1 events (The Very First Day of the Rest of Their Lives on Sunday, Aug 25, 2019) and the Lockdown phonecall (on or near the 30 year anniversary on May 1, 2020), I can't imagine that's a very long time for Hell, especially if you're understaffed and busy dealing with fallout from Almostgeddon / going on pub dates

Shax dropping off mail and asking about the boiler seems like something one does in the first few months of living somewhere, not ~3 years in (if S2 is in 2023)

That said, I think the phone call underlines why Crowley never directly tells Aziraphale that he is living in the Bentley in S2, and it's just a great conversation (all hail Gaiman) sooo I wrote about it:

***Note: This post analyzes the Lockdown phonecall from Crowley's perspective only. Our heroine is feeling quite emotionally vulnerable at this point in time so things are going to hit him harder than they normally would.

I do not think Aziraphale meant to cause him pain (!!) but Crowley can't see that yet and I've written this post in a way that reflects that missing insight. (I explain in more detail in this reblog if you are interested) I am working on a companion post for Aziraphale's side of this conversation and how I think it affects his behavior in S2 because if we know anything about these two, it's that their exactlys are different exactlys.***

Crowley’s habit of sleeping to skip time like an RPG character by a campfire amuses me to no end, but in this context it feels heavy. Crowley already worries about losing time with what he loves and he probably hoped things would be different between him and Aziraphale after the events of S1. But things don’t change much. Then lockdowns start, and Crowley is trapped in his apartment alone, transcendentally bored, and unable to make his brain shut up. Sleeping a month away starts to sound less awful.

But Crowley hasn’t given up yet; he’s still awake when Aziraphale calls, and he’s even giving it two more days. Was he waiting for Aziraphale to call? Is it even possible not to at least kind of wait for someone’s call when you are cut off from everything and the caller has been your only friend and crush for millennia?

Aziraphale asks why Crowley isn't "out and about" tempting people or setting a bad example and he responds:

C: Everyone's so miserable and cooped up right now anyway, and I just… well… don't have the heart for it. A: *glowing audibly* I'm not miserable~ C: Really?

Crowley sounds genuinely surprised at Aziraphale's happiness and quickly assumes it's because the angel has been around people. He's so lonely/depressed/in his own head that he hadn't even considered someone enjoying being 'cooped up'. *sob*

Aziraphale goes No actually I put the closed sign up in the window and I'm having the Time of My Life, never had so few customers, not in 200 years!, etc. Although, he says:

A: …There were a few young lads a couple of nights ago who broke in through the back and tried to steal the cashbox! But they soon saw the error of their ways~ C: *clearly amused* Did you smite them with your wroth? A: Well I certainly gave them a good talking to, and I sent each of them home with cake~ C: *annoyed, swooning* Cake? A: Quite a lot of cake, actually. C: *physically ill from having such a giant crush on this dumbass baker/security guard* eeeekkkgghhh I'm gonna regret asking but.. ...rrgh.. *30 seconds of Aziraphale joyfully describing his baking while Crowley probably tries very hard not to imagine the angel eating each item in sensual slow motion* I stg you can hear him struggling in the background once or twice

A: …And once I've baked them, I have to eat them all myself, which was why I was so delighted— C: To send your burglars home laden with baked goods, yes, nnyeaayeah I follow…

Crowley interrupts, finishing Aziraphale's sentence in his nervous hurry to say the next bit:

C: *loud inhale* You know, I could.. hunker down at your place. … Slither over and watch you eat cake. I could bring a bottle--a case of… something… drinkable…?

He's trying to sound so casual about it but this is someone who was rejected/abandoned by actual literal God after asking what he thought were welcome, uncontroversial questions. Asking makes him vulnerable. He's supposed to be the rescuer, not a demon in distress. He does not feel casual about asking.

Crowley knows it's unlikely but he's so miserable and desperate for company that he can't help but ask, just in case. Even the smallest chance of spending time trapped indoors with Aziraphale—with nothing to do but drink, watch him eat, and talk about things they'd normally avoid—is too tempting.

A: *panicking* Oh I— I— I— I— I'm afraid that would be Breaking All The Rules! *nervous breathing* Out of the question! I'll see you… when this is over. C: Right. gnnehh. I'm setting the alarm clock for July. Good night, angel. *dial tone*

And just like that, Crowley doesn't need two days to decide. The depression nap doubles in length. He doesn't hear how badly Aziraphale wants to say yes behind the fear, or maybe he does and it hurts worse because why isn't Crowley enough for him? You can almost hear the spiralling:

SHOCKING, asking made it worse. It always does doesn’t it? Why even bother? you just embarrass yourself.. SLITHER over? why did I say that *grumble grumble* of COURSE His Holy Holiness, your only friend in the universe, would rather eat cake by himself while everything goes to shit than ~deign~ to have you in his presence. "AsK aND yE sHaLl ReCeIvE" bugger this for a lark im going to bed

(a bit dramatic but we've all been there)

I imagine sleep doesn't come right away. Maybe his thoughts drift to when he sat beside the angel at a dark Tadfield bus stop after a rather eventful Saturday. Crowley must've felt a tiny bit hopeful when he invited Aziraphale to stay with him: Heaven had withdrawn its favor and the bookshop was gone; Aziraphale was like him now. Didn't that mean things would change?

"I don't think my side would like that." Apparently not.

In the end, Aziraphale did ride the bus back to Crowley's apartment and stayed till the next morning when he caught a cab, but only to sell the illusion. Crowley understood that as far as sides went, the angel was still on Heaven's, even if Heaven wasn't on his.

And now this: the entire world is shut down; there is nothing for Aziraphale to do but stay in and read and bake in his magically reconstituted bookshop and he still won't invite Crowley in. Burglars and un-fallen angels only—nobody who asks questions.

So... of course Crowley doesn't tell Aziraphale when he loses his apartment. He already knows what answer he would get; the angel has told him so many times. Aziraphale is a company man first, a companion to one very sad owl when convenient.

If Crowley works up the courage to say 'please take me in, I have nowhere else to go' and Aziraphale goes 'sorry, no, far too political, but I WILL risk being erased from the Book of Life to protect this nude amnesiac former coworker who always hated me,' it's going to be too much. You can't sleep long enough for that type of hurt to go away. Better not to say anything.

"Then nothing has to change, does it?"

#edited to add the note about crowley's perspective right after the cut! apologies if it seemed anti-aziraphale before! #good omens meta #good omens lockdown #good omens 2 #ineffable husbands #ineffable spouses #ineffable divorcees #i can't even imagine navigating the pandemic brain scramblies while pining THAT HARD #Aziraphale is a company man (gn) but i think S3 will cure him of that #long but if i can't write essays about this on tumblr then where #good omens spoilers

[notesbutnotfromunderground]

A lot has already been said about Good Omens. And I think the most beautiful thing about it is that, as WE, the fans, try to analyse it to make sense of the events that came to pass in the last episode of season 6, we're also learning a bit more of ourselves, through the lens and perspective of the different characters.

It's sort of a comfort movie, a kind of therapy and self-reflection. So here we are empathising and learning to hold space for the characters that we dearly hold close to our hearts. (More like brain rot, if you ask me.) For me, I've gained a better understanding of myself over these past weeks (oohh it's actually months now!)

And I think we'll keep going back to it until we make sense of Crowley's heartbreak (even the depth of him sauntering vaguely downwards) and Aziraphale's choices. As we continue to simply wish for Muriel to get their ineffable parents back together:)

Like can I also say there are so many layers to it? It's astounding, brilliant, and deserving of the word, ineffable. The genius of its writing—metaphors, imagery, symbolisms, easter eggs and most significantly, the integrity of the characters.

Because just when you think you've figured it out, you reread the book, rewatch the series, stumble through a TikTok video or Tumblr post, and you learn something new! Ineffably chaotic. Ineffably human. Ineffably curious!

So here's to the world and to the ineffable idiots' endgame, where they get to live together for all eternity in their garden of Eden, where Crowley no longer puts the fear of Crowley to his plants, books and books upon shelves scattered through the garden, and the Bentley parked underneath the Tree of Knowledge.

At night, they have a better view of the galaxy when the solar system finally gets moved to the centre of the universe.

Let there be light. Let there be a happy ending. 🪽🐍

#good omens season 3 #good omens #good omens appreciation #crowley aziraphale #ineffable husbands #ineffable idiots #aziracrow #crowly x aziraphale #ineffable bureaucracy #ineffable divorce #ineffable reconciliation #ineffable reunion #crowley #crowley and aziraphale deserve a happy ending #anti tragedy #ineffable lovers

[starofhisheart]

Having fun over here

#good omens #ineffable husbands #ofmd #izzy hands #edizzy #hannibal #hannigram #the boys #xedgin #dndhat #dungeons and dragons honour among thieves #anti heartstopper #just in case #but not really bc i love the comics #just some fun dont take it too seriously #trixie and katya