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aleksgivanov · 3 months
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I’m excited to finally post my pieces for the To Be Gentle and Peace Through Tyranny zines from @allsparkzines ! These were so fun to work on and connect together. Check out all the other amazing art these zines have to offer!
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Curious, but why do you think CV wasn’t as popular among the fan base as animated/prime? I haven’t been in the fandom long enough, but have a general understanding that there’s G1 elitism but CV wasn’t terrible. Also, this could be skewed since I don’t know peoples responses to animated or tfp at the time (or RiD2015).
There are a couple things to consider here.
One: target demographic. Cyberverse is generally understood to be skewed a little younger than most mainline TF cartoons. Generally, mainline TF cartoons are assumed to be aimed at around the 6-14 demographic, I'd say. (With the Rescue Bots stuff filling the pre-school niche and the comics being for adults.) But there's a very big difference between the average 6 year old's taste and a 14 year old's taste. Some shows, like TFP, lean more towards the older tween/teen demo; some, like Cyberverse, more towards the under-10s. A lot of adults who like kids' cartoons prefer the stuff aimed at slightly older audiences. So the younger a cartoon is pitched, the less it's likely to engage lots of the "adult nerd" secondary demographic. (And of course, some dumbasses are straight up like WAHHH IT'S KIDDY AND THAT'S BAD, HATE because they do not want to admit they are in a franchise that is overwhelmingly made up of cartoons made for children, like losers.)
Two: format. Cyberverse is not a 'full' show like most TF cartoons. Each episode is ~10 minutes long, not ~22, and it's nowhere near as heavily serialised as a some recent takes on that format (Steven Universe is probably the preeminent example). This means a lot of the episodes earlier on especially are standalone and have just a single one-and-done A-plot going on. This does change in later series, especially series three, but for a while there the tone is much more 'goofy and fun shorts' than 'overarching narrative', which tends not to gain the same kind of teen or adult fandom engagement. It tends not to lead to a lot of speculation, or fanfic, stuff like that which builds momentum and engagement.
Three: budget. To put it bluntly, Cyberverse was a budget cartoon compared to stuff like TFP. (My personal assumption is that this was likely deliberate, what with TFP having infamously become one of the most absurd money leaks of a cartoon I have ever heard of.) It was more or less designed to be a web-first streaming series rather than like, the next big flagship cartoon on TV. (It aired on CN's app first and many countries only had it on various random apps; it now lives on Youtube mostly.) They had very little money, and while the team made that money go really far on the show itself, it shows in some regards. First up, it got next to no promo. Like. This show had almost no advertising. It was not treated as 'the next big Transformers franchise' by Hasbro tbh: it's often referred to as being something of a 'stopgap' series. Also, the toyline is incredibly sparse and cheaply done, with weird gaps and terrible distribution and a huge amount of under-engineered toys. Given that the shows exist to sell the toys, and toys drive interest in the shows... yeah. Anyway, the fact it wasn't treated like the Next Big Transformers Thing meant a lot of people straight up skipped it.
Four: the first series was easily the weakest. Like, I love Cyberverse, but s1 is eminently skippable. The low budget there hit them hard I think. Very few characters ever show up, all the settings are the blandest, flattest wastelands they can manage a lot of the time. The whole thing is basically designed from the ground up so they can justify only having to have two actual regular main characters! Series one did not grab most of us who did start watching when it began airing. When it got a lot better in series two and three, a lot of the audience had unfortunately already dismissed it.
All the above combined to mean that Cyberverse is a little bit of a black sheep of the continuities, with Earthspark being seen as the 'proper' return of TF by a lot of folks. Which! Is a real shame! Because Cyberverse fucking RULED. Okay. The uptick in how good it was once series two ditched the 'only two characters' thing and brought on a full cast of Bots and Cons was ridiculous. It's funny and goofy and incessantly charming and it uses its format to its advantage to tell fun little stories you just wouldn't get in a show like Prime. The continuity picks up while still allowing episodic stories, the writers bring in fun ideas from other continuities, Starscream starts a cult and eats people's souls, it's wonderful. They got really creative, and the fact they didn't necessarily have that overwhelming need to appeal to a nostalgic audience 24/7 meant they could get a bit weird and silly with it. Kids' cartoons that are for kids and strive to be entertaining in that way are good, actually!
Series three notably has a whole mini-arc that follows characters and their development episode to episode and reintroduces and reinvents the Quintessons in a big way, and it's one of my fave TF cartoon arcs ever. A lot of folks find themselves surprised by how much they wind up enjoying Cyberverse once they give it a shot. But there was that really rocky start combined with it being a very atypical format for the series that just limited how many people did give it a shot.
Cyberverse has its contingent of dudebros who hate it for being a kids' show, but mostly? It's just kind of overlooked.
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skidblast · 5 years
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The Villains of Transformers.
This seems like a basic non-question. We got Unicron as the world-ending threat, and various incarnations of Megatron doing the rest of the job to keep the threat going. However, there is another angle to it.
Often we hear the phrase “write what you know”. Which seems simple enough, that you got experience with something that you can write it pretty true. But what does one know about mechanical aliens that have been fighting a war for 4 million years?
But the various writers of the Transformers franchise throughout the years have written what they know. There is an overarching threat in each one of the transformers incarnations that is different from the Megatron the Tyrant or the Planet-eating Unicron. It’s more like background noise, providing the constant that is happening, a crutch when writing.
Unfortunately I won’t be touching on Japanese produced media, I haven’t studied the history of Japan to know the nuanced details of culture background noise or incidental historic events to comment on Headmaster, Victory, RID2001, Unicron Trilogy and any other that I have missed.
I will also skip the Marvel, Dreamwave and FunPub comics/media as I’ve not read them. Cyberverse and the second IDW release are skipped as they are pretty recent additions. Rescue Bots and Rescue Bots Academy is skipped as well due to simplicity.
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The main theme of the G1 cartoon is energy shortage. Cybertron is out of Energon, they flee Cybertron to find more energy. The Decepticons set up base on Earth because the humans have begun to harness the energy of their planet, allowing easy access to said energy and to ship it home.
This doesn’t come out of nowhere. In fact, most people have heard of the precursor in passing. The time when cars were lined up at the gas stations.
1979 was a bad shock for the oil market. Iran revolted, causing oil production to shrink a bit and caused panic, which in turned caused the prices of oil to rise dramatically. This was also the year where the Three Mile Island Accident happened, so people got vary of nuclear power. Gas rationing was discussed, and in some states actually implemented. Then recession hit in the wake of this.
The effects of the oil crisis and the following recession were still felt, so a cartoon about an energy crisis was very easy to write.
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Beast Wars is an odd one to analyse. It came as the Transformers franchise was dying, and Hasbro was desperate to reinvent Transformers for the new kids. The appeal of cars turning into robots was no longer around, but making them animals was the push Hasbro needed to refresh the Transformers.
So we end up with the beginning basically rehashing the Transformers cartoon, but when the overarching plot hits, when the threads get revealed after a whole season of basically filler, we find the inspiration that the writers had. This time, it is not energy crisis, in 1996 we had put that behind us.
We have Megatron leading a team trying to restore the Decepticons as rightful rulers via time travel. We then discover he had actually gone against the so-called Tripredacus Council, the fractured Predacon Alliance who were biding their time and see the usefulness of what Megatron is trying to accomplish. In order to gain more power without breaking the peace made with the Pax Cybertronia, they use secret agents and secret police.
This is very familiar to a lot of people who haven’t seen Beast Wars or heard of it. This is Russia.
In 1991, the Soviet Union collapsed, and with that the Cold War ended. Peace was had. But as Russia threw off the communism ties from them, the ruling body still needed to exert control over the nation, and to broaden their influence beyond their borders. Russia went from Communism to Mafia-like control, using secret police, subtle threats and various other shady things. People saw what was going on, and with the new fear they were facing, they made it known in the media.
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Beast Machines is a bit easier to figure out compared to its predecessor. It’s mostly because the message of Beast Machines resonates strongly today. 
Beast Machines came shortly after Beast Wars, as the toyline was trying to go away from the purely animal transformers and going for more mechanical look. But how do you really bridge those together?
At the tail end of the 80ies, environmentalism was on the rise. There was an undercurrent of that happening in Beast Wars, but in Beast Machines it had much more weight to it. With Megatron wanting to stamp out any biological influences from Cybertron, ready to eradicate any traces of it and mass-producing purely mechanical beings to repopulate Cybertron. While Optimus Primal was embracing the biological side of it, becoming sort of a guru through the Oracle.
The rise of industrialism is frightening prospect, seeing the nature retreat into near nothingness, and seeing the callousness of the industry just ignore it completely in favour for profits. But there was no denying that industrialism was there to stay, so while it is the main fear of the series, the message of the series was not to abolish it but to tame it, not let it out of control and make sure that the environment was put on equal grounds to it.
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Animated is a strong reboot like Beast Wars was, coming at the same time as the Michael Bay films. Japanese production had taken over after Beast Machines finished, but Hasbro sought to retake the American market with media that they controlled. Importing Anime and dubbing it was all and good, but if they had complete control, they would have better chance to make it appeal to the market they wanted, the Western one.
It’s 2007. Following 9/11 the USA goes to war. And it is still going, with a certain hopelessness attached to it as people are getting more and more jaded by it. But most people never really felt the impact, only heard about it. There was no draft, there was no conscription. People joined the military, and those who came back came back either just a little bit off, or really suffering, and couldn’t get proper help.
Transformers Animated touches on civilians being basically forced into the war, against foes that were thought to be defeated long ago. It touches on the hardship of those civilians as they are part of it, feeling both the elation of being thought as heroes, and feeling the terror of the situation that they are in. A highlight of this is the episode Thrill of the Hunt, which came rather early, and touched on themes that are not common to see in media aimed at children, looking at Ratchet going too far, and suffering from some form of PTSD as well.
While the actual war had never visited the US or the spacebridge repair crew, the impact of it was felt on them, with all the horrors that entails.
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Transformers Animated and first Michael Bay Transformers film came out on the same year. Yet the themes of the film series is far from what Animated did. One part of it is that Hollywood movies are more constricted as they have to appeal to a whole lot of audience in order to gain any return from the production cost. So everything is analysed in detail, making sure that nothing would alienate the vast majority of the Western World. We are in fact seeing it more obviously as China is growing stronger as a consumer market for Hollywood movies, and we see how the movies are made to appeal to that market as well.
So doing a commentary on the Afghanistan war like Transformers Animated did was out of the question. But it doesn’t mean that there isn’t a fear in the movie like in anything else.
Technology is on rapid rise. The rule of CPU power doubling every 18 months was still holding. New technology comes before anyone can really adapt to what had been introduced not so long ago.
The fear in the Michael Bay films is the rampancy of technology. We have severely advanced alien race make contact, and in fact made most of the technology based on one of them, found at the turn of the previous century. Technology that wasn’t even fully understood, that people thought they could easily control. But it goes out of control.
This concept is called Technological Singularity, where technology eventually becomes uncontrollable and we get swept up in the wake of it, having to deal with the new reality that we are no longer the masters of the world we are in. Grey Goo is one of the better known representation of this idea. Another is the idea of an overlord AI that either seeks to exterminate humanity, rule it with iron fist, or simply think of humans as we think of ants, insignificant.
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IDW Publishing was on the scene two years earlier, in 2005. However given how long the first G1 iteration of it ran it gets mentioned after TFA and the movies due to that, allowing for Aligned continuity to come after it.
While TFA showed how the Afghanistan War impacted US citizens, who had not really experienced being at war while being so interconnected with the world and able to receive so much information, the IDW comics went for the other angle, the other fear that ruled in the USA at that time.
9/11. The fear of terrorism happening, the fear of foreign infiltration. The Decepticons had a plan on how the infiltration happened, every step of it planned, making sure that they could make the residents of the planet do most of the work of disrupting the peace, making it easy for them to swoop in and destroy the rest.
While things didn’t go as planned as the Autobots intervened pretty early, the Decepticons went public on full force, taking over New York City and almost dropped an atomic bomb on it. The connection to 9/11 is pretty hard to miss.
And then Phase 2 hits. James Roberts becomes one of the more interesting writers in the series. And this is where things go slightly off. James Roberts is more of a writer that knows what he’s writing about, instead of being influenced by current events.
And James Roberts has made known he has major interest in politics as he worked with politicians before picking up the pen for IDW Publishing. Write what you know, and James Roberts know politics, and political history.
In Phase 2 there is increased focus on the actual motivations behind the war. While Megatron Origins did go into how Megatron became the leader of the Deceptioncs, it was James Roberts that made it into the communism reflection that it became in the comics. It isn’t really some overarching fear in the background of the comics, it’s known quantity woven into the narrative of the comic.
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Transformers Prime came in 2010, after Transformers Animated, seeking to remove the stylised aesthetics of the former toyline and try to be more like the movies.
And it wasn’t the only thing it changed. What was changed as well was the work that was actually put behind the actual lore of the series, making a true production bible that was used not for just the TV series but the accompanying video games as well, War For Cybertron and Fall Of Cybertron. And there was also a clear message along with that, this was a new continuity, new setting. Aligned, seeking to mesh together all the good from the various franchises into one good package.
But with all that background done on it, it’s easy to point out how Megatron went from a revolutionary to a tyrant and that would be about that. But it is not that simple.
What colors Transformers Prime is subtle and easily overlooked. In 2007 we experienced a dire financial crisis. Unemployment shot up, investments plummeted, there was no good safety net for people and a lot of them fell through the cracks. But these things are hard to really put into a show like this without it being explicitly about it. But there is another side effect of the recession that wasn’t that apparent in 2010, is more obvious now, but with the Transformers lore from the 1984 cartoon being similar, it blends into the usual Transformers noise.
Refugees.
Optimus Prime and his small team are simply refugees. Cybertron did run out of fuel, but the plots of harvesting energon and fighting over resources is more rehashing of the old cartoon plots. The focus is more on the Autobot team as they deal with being literal aliens in the US, escaping the tyranny that they fled. How they are treated by the locals, how they deal with the isolation of being in a culture different from theirs. They simply try to survive. Like how most people hit by the recession felt.
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Robots in Disguise was released after Transformers Prime, going away from the expensive production and to more cheaper look. But with the so-called Aligned continuty having been a strong reboot of the “TV cartoons” series, Hasbro was in no hurry to abandon it, making Robots in Disguise a sequel to Transformers Prime.
Though with the war over, a new kind of threat had to be made. And Steeljaw steps into the role, not only as the main antagonist of the series, but as the representation of the fear theme of the series.
What isn’t really that obvious in Robots in Disguise is just how powerful Steeljaw is. Steeljaw isn’t just some generic Decepticon villain who escapes just so they can reuse his model instead of having to create even more Decepticons. He has fighting prowess, he is able to outwit the Bumblebee team. And the most dangerous weapons he has are his personality and voice.
Steeljaw is able to talk himself out of trouble. He has major ambitions, he knows what to do in order to recruit others. He wants power and respect, and if left unchecked, he will have it. And he knows that if there is some that he can’t convince, he can fight, and he will fight dirty.
Steeljaw represents a fear that people have experienced for a long time, but it wasn’t until recently that it really put into the spotlight. He is the abuser, the person in power that will make your life miserable. He antagonises Bumblebee and his team by causing them trouble, drive them off their safe haven of Earth and later drives them from their safe space, forcing them to go on the run. He finds power by leading a pack of Decepticons, then later by allying himself to the new council until he realises that he will not achieve his goals with him.
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I hope you’ve enjoyed this massive post of mine.
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officerofcybertron · 4 years
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Headcanons 1: Matrix
Is Ultra Magnus worthy to carry the Matrix of Leadership?
The short answer to this question is: Yes, but he doesn’t want it or need it, and it’s complicated.
The origins to this question naturally date back to the original G1 movie; when Ultra Magnus was introduced, chosen by Optimus Prime to become the new Autobot leader, and then… didn’t. It was never really covered as to why that was. Instead Hot Rod was the token ‘chosen one’ character, and the explanation was left at that. The Matrix didn’t choose Ultra Magnus.
Ultra Magnus explains to Optimus when he’s given the Matrix he’s ‘just a soldier’, but is this really the only reason there is? He’s just not ‘leadership material’?
We can all agree that G1 is a national treasure and that the plot points do not make that much sense in many regards. Rodimus Prime showed up in the movie, awe-inspiring, powerful, and confident, but then in the following cartoon show it became a running joke that he would learn a ‘valuable lesson’ in leadership, either from Ultra Magnus himself, or from other members of the team when they corrected him on his actions, and then be right back to behaving like a child in the next episode while Ultra Magnus essentially led the Autobots in all but name.
So; what does this have to do with Transformers Prime? The character of Ultra Magnus is fairly changed. G1 Ultra Magnus was a lot more relaxed, not quite so rule-obsessed, and had an understanding of what it meant to be a family. He was also known to laugh, and act as a guardian figure for Daniel.
Conversely Ultra Magnus in Prime is the very definition of ‘strict’. I like to think that if you were to look the word up in a Cybertronian dictionary, Ultra Magnus’ picture would probably be listed under the word as an example. He’s a stranger to the family environment, and it is likely that jokes roll right off his armor plating.
The answer is rather obvious, although a bit too simple: they’re both soldiers who’ve never been comfortable playing the ‘leading role’. Not because they aren’t good at it, but because it’s not something they’ve ever wanted. Instead, working as Second in Command, while still giving them the ability to direct their troops, and help their soldiers, still gives them the ability to defer to another authority.
But more importantly: Ultra Magnus does not want the Matrix.
I think the Matrix knows this, and therefore does not choose Ultra Magnus.
Not because Ultra Magnus is not worthy. He’s definitely worthy. Rather the Matrix, being what it is, I think can see into the spark of a Cybertronian presented to it and it can see this quietly hidden truth. A truth that, maybe, Ultra Magnus never spoke of to Optimus Prime. That he’s uncomfortable with being set up to be the next Prime. That he doesn’t want to be a Prime.
Obviously, this is in the case of the G1 cartoon, but I think this same aspect could be applied if ever Ultra Magnus from Transformers Prime were to be offered the Matrix.
On top of this, let’s be frank: Ultra Magnus doesn’t need the Matrix.
I know in Prime he was shown to have issues with leading Team Prime, but I also take a lot of my Ultra Magnus from the prequel novels, and in the prequel novels he was a bad-ass leader. Confident in his soldiers, and described as ‘daring, strategically ingenious, and courageous to the point of recklessness’ by Alpha Trion.
It’s honestly a huge curiosity of mine what would have happened had Ultra Magnus and Starscream gone head to head in a real battle. The two of them were never pitted against one another, but I have a feeling a fight between the two of them very easily could have decided the fate of the war.
Why? Because when Optimus and Megatron fight one another, almost nothing else exists around them. So, on a quick tangent imagine that happening. Optimus, with Ultra Magnus, and Megatron with Starscream, go into a full-on head-to-head battle. Optimus and Megatron almost immediately size one another up, because there’s no one else who’s going to take on their opposite number. That leaves Ultra Magnus and Starscream to direct the rest of the battle.
Imagine, just for a moment, how ridiculously amazing that would be story-wise. I honestly couldn’t tell you who would win. Starscream and his Seekers would have air superiority, but Ultra Magnus and his wreckers are bat-shit crazy and not afraid to fight dirtier than any other Autobot as long as it gets the job done.
Back onto the topic at hand: Ultra Magnus’ Wreckers followed him into the battle of Fort Scyk and then when Optimus and the rest of the Autobot forces intended to flee Cybertron on board the Ark they remained with Ultra Magnus to hold back Trypticon and to try to keep an Autobot presence on Cybertron.
They fought with him against unbelievable odds. Against Shockwave and his abominations. Facing death every time they went out and knowing that the next mission would always be a suicide mission.
You don’t do all that and not have faith, feel loyalty, for the person leading you.
Ultra Magnus doesn’t need the Matrix to be a great leader. He old enough that he has the experience; has the compassion needed. He’s capable..
Would he have accepted the Matrix if Optimus had died and passed it onto him? Yes, but I don’t think he would accept it as the next Prime. He would accept it for safe keeping. Knowing that the next Prime wouldn’t be him. He would accept it because it was expected of him and it was his responsibility.
Which is why I actually enjoyed the ending of Predacon’s Rising where Opitmus took the Matrix out of the equation.
If Transformers Prime had gotten a proper sequel, and not the disaster that 2015 RID offered us, it would have been amazing to see how Team Prime evolved in the absence of a sacred relic which bestows the right to lead. By removing the Matrix as the be-all-end-all, it would have allowed someone – like Ultra Magnus – to step up into that leadership position and help Cybertron flourish.
And I truly do believe it would have been Ultra Magnus who stepped up. Not because I feel Bumblebee or Smokescreen are incapable of being leaders. They both have leadership qualities. As does Arcee, and even Bulkhead. Rather I feel it would be because of Ultra Magnus’ already extensive experience, and service record, that would catapult him up to the most likely leader going forward.
I realize that people may disagree with me, and that’s totally fair. Until I started really looking into Ultra Magnus myself, about the same time I started this blog, I didn’t have a very high opinion of him, but the more I read, the more I thought, I realized that there was so much untapped potential here.
Ultra Magnus is a mech, an Autobot, who should be proud of what he’s accomplished and he is most certainly worthy of being a Prime, but the part about his character that I love the most?
He doesn’t need to be a Prime to be a Leader.
He doesn’t need the Matrix.
And it’s better that way.
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hi maple, yea what the FUCK4. what are some of examples of storytelling that inspires you outside of books?
idk if it is storytelling per-say, but I always like the romantic nature of life? Just how the world is so big and massive, but you see a sunbeam and you’re just awe-struck at how that came to be; like how big trees are and how green they are; how foreign food and fruit are so normal in a supermarket and that pineapple has traveled thousands of miles; how airplanes are man-made and fly and it’s normal. You can go into a forest and feel alone and realize how small everything is.
I like the small details of life, the little things that are so simple and mundane, but are just amazing and extravagant on their own. It’s probably why I write small details
6. have you ever made a playlist about something you were writing as an elaborate means to procrastinate when you could have been actually writing and if yes drop a link, sonHonestly, no; I’ve never made a playlist before really. I either write in silence of listen to the same 3 songs anyway; they usually have meaning or character attributions. Some songs are weirdly connected to aus I have and it’s a mess. 
18. tell us about a character who’s very different than you who you love a whole lot
Sorry KH friends. Beachcomber from Transformers; a dude who has been in a multimillion year war, doesn’t wanna be there and has never wanted to be there and somehow calls himself a pacifist. He’s a hippie stoner who is objectively terrible at his job and a lot of the writers actually hate him. I have most his figures, except the golden lagoon set bc its expensive and g1 because I’m picky. He’s just fun to write, fun to read, and just a blast. Like, in his debut episode, he abandons his allies like 3 separate times and technically commits fraternization in the same episode. I love him so much.
At least I hope he’s different from me...
19. what’s something neat you’ve learned while doing research for something you were writing? also, how much do you worry about doing research in general?
Any information I write is going to be as accurate as I can make it. I won’t write false information and I do research everything; if I can’t find a source or accuracy, I’ll either re-write it or write around it. I hate people making up shit tbh, like, it’s a huge pet peeve of mine.
....all i can think of at the moment is literal research papers i’ve written, -especially since I haven’t written anything intensive in a long while - but I did run a beachcomber rp blog for a bit. So if you ever see me like, pepper in weird slang, that’s why lol. I ended up using it so much I internalized a lot of it, man.
20. do you ever have trouble focusing on writing? how do you get around that? tell us. please, tell us. I, the OP of this ask list, desperately need advice on how to focus.
Every fucking day of my life. I just remind myself that you can edit words but you can’t edit a blank page. I also skip around a lot so if I don’t wanna write it, I can stall and do something else; but that means that I end up with a lot of ‘boring’ stuff in the end. I also tell friends about my plans so I get forced into writing lmao. 
23. okay, now that we had that nice one: what’s your WORST writing habit? dig deep, own up to your crimes.
I have a few lmao. I am never satisfied and will edit my work to HELL, even if it’s already on ao3. Apparently I don’t think highly of myself or of my work and I should do that. I’m bad at long fics and get bored easily, despite my plans; I’m a lotta talk. I focus wayyy too much on small scenes and thus can waste time writing about literally NOTHING. I don’t always have plot anddd I lose plot easily when I have it. I also get trapped in tenses and pov and can find it hard to switch around; all my work kinda blends together. also whats an attention span?
I also don’t branch out with characters enough, I write very similar and with the same characters,  and stay in my comfort zone; but I’ve been trying to work on that
 @funghoulies
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