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dnangelic · 5 months
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not even at the poto part of my queue yet but i hope u guys know this is this to me
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thesupernaturalhouse · 3 months
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So we've seen how protective Vaggie is of Charlie and how she will threaten anyone who tries to hurt charlie.....we hacnt see Charlie being this protective though and iw ant to see it
I want somebody to write a fic diversion au thing where Val says "Yeah, leave and go back you your whore" after Angle tells her to go
And charlie absolutely goes APESHIT, because you can insult her. You can insult her dreams. But if you insult Vaggie she WILL kill you and have 0 regrets about it
I want her to grab him by the collar and say that exact thing and end woth 'if you say soemthing like that about her again I will destroy your soul infrotn of everyone here.' And then throw him into a wall before leaving the studio-
I think she doesn't do it to angle cause she knows it's just banter and he doesn't eman any of it and Vaggie doesn't care all that much- but Val?? Val 100% means what he says.
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onlyswan · 7 months
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hi art 💓 so im rereading iw couples breakup drabble as one would do everytime shes on her period (its a canon event i think ppl would relate) and i have a few questions!!! 🥹🦋
1. what were the iw couple doing before they were in the car? like did they spend the day only to then break up? i rmb reading that jk was on tour, did he came back and break up w them right away? did he at least get them a present???!
2. what events led him to the decision? we know that prob he’s overwhelmed, the uncertainty of his career and the drabble from where he saw how draining it is on oc. but is there a bigger thing that happened?
3. u wrote that he “practiced” breaking up with oc. like is this true? how long has he thought of breaking up w oc before he actually did it? and how did oc not expect anything??? ☹️☹️
4. who is this “not married yet” girl that jk was teasing tae about? that sounds so saucYY a drabble for that would be super fun!! its gonna be super angsty too!!! hahahahhaha
5. we know jk regretted it right away after breaking up w oc, but why didn’t he backtrack and take it back? i know oc must’ve thought hes crazy but he didnt even call or text first? us reading is comforted by knowing that jk is also having the worst time, but oc doesn’t. yet theyre brave enough to be the one who reached out first, bc for all they know, jk could be with some other people right now, alr over them. did oc know that he’s not that kind of person or deep down they’re just being as brave as they can asking for what they wants which is him?
6. can we pleaseeeee have more drabbles where we can see how much the boys adore oc? or just their dynamic i would say. also do they have a special connection with each of the boys on different things? like maybe a drabble where jk & oc pack a homemade lunch to bring when visiting jin hobi or yoongi 🥹🥹
7. after the initial breakup, were things ever awkward? were there times when oc had to get used to him being in their life again or something less dramatic? did he ever see doubts or worry in oc’s eyes and is the even when he gave u reasons to drabble, the first time they had to address the traumatic event in their relationship? do they ever talk about it now? or laugh about it?
8. what happened with the “someone else i met in a bar turned out to be a jerk”??? when was this?! HAHAHHA jk must’ve lost his fucking mind after learning about this
9. kinda curious has there been a time when jk really needs quality time w oc and just brings her on tour? my dream is becoming a tour wifey so this would hit all the right spot:( esp w how easy he handled the situation from the last drabble of just inviting her to come w him. cutest ☹️
thank you so much for providing one of my comfort fics!! i hope ure having a great day🌷🥹
oh!! also!! i think we’ve never seen iw couple be on a date date, like fancy super dressed up date. is that just not them? can we see more of their date nights??
heyyy beloved i missed you 🥺🥺🥺 omg???
there are two types of onlyswan readers: one - those who reread the period drabbles then they’re on their period / two - those who reread the breakup drabble when they’re on their period 😭😭😭
ALRIGHT [cracks knuckles]
1. he broke up with oc as soon as he arrived back from tour 🥲 like literally. our guy was still jetlagged. he just wasn’t in his right mind at the time honestly. oc hopped in the car thinking they were going to spend time together someplace else but… yk what happened… ofc he got oc lotssss of presents though </3 including those gifts he talked about in the video oc watched before they called him :(
2. at the time they were already making plans about what will happen in the next few years of their career including the m word ehem ehem so. yeah he was overwhelmed and tired and he felt guilty of having to always leave oc + we know how oc is so empathetic so he also felt guilty that they have to carry his burdens as well ☹️
3. probably a month 🤨 but he didn’t actually want to break up with oc yk? it felt more like a thing that he had to do </3 so oc never suspected anything because the way he was acting towards them never changed. he wanted to hold on.
4. LMAOOOOO maybe in the future i’ll get around to that 🤞🏼 but tae was going through it for reaaaaal
5. he didn’t jump out the car to chase oc because him immediately changing his mind would’ve pissed oc off thinking that he was just playing a joke on their feelings and that would earn him a slap on the face 😭 he thought of that. and oc said they wanted to decide for theirself too :( so he wanted to respect that but he ended up becoming too much of a coward to reach out first after that bcs what if oc already decided that the breakup was for the best too 🥲 what if they hate him now 🥲 but he should’ve thought about it more from oc’s pov bcs they were suffering thinking that he alr gave up frfr </3
hmmm joon did talk to them about jk having a hard time, but during the breakup they did ask if he cheated so we know that they have this anxiety :( oc is just our bravest soldier who knows what they want and always tries their best to get it (him) 🫡
6. omg yessss more soon i’ve been thinking about one with jimin too specifically !! oc definitely bonds with each of the tannies about different things 🥺
7. yea, the even when he gave u reasons to drabble was the first time they brought it up again :( after they got back together jk really made efforts to reassure oc and that’s partly because he did see how they became kind of timid when he expresses affection. (i.e., jk saying “i didn’t love you any less and you know that.” and oc not saying anything and walking away instead) (this shit still kills me today sorry)
8. this was oc’s bf before jungkook aka guy with the dirty nails aka the ex who cursed them out like crazy when oc broke up with him (called them a slut) AND ALMOST made oc delete jungkook’s first ever texts to them bcs they lowkey started believing him. (he makes me mad sorry)
9. heeee wanted to but oc has only tried flying out for the ptd la and vegas shows bc the circumstances before then were different :( they were balancing school and multiple jobs. and we know how hard oc studied. they were so committed 😭 but now they live together and oc has a stable job and everything’s just more flexible overall so going with him overseas when he has work there is easy and not a problem at all 🥺
oh ofccc they’ve been on fancy dates esp that oc loves feeling pretty <3 but someone take me on a fancy date first so i can write about it 🤧
this is the first time someone called the giving up drabble a comfort fic lmaoooo this made my day i love you 😭 i hope i answered your questions and thank you soooo much for reading my works 🥺💕
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undercoverpena · 1 year
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Infinity Ward please hire this lovely person!! 😭❤️
Though i have to ask, do you think if Ghost and Helen weren't in the military anymore, would they leave to be together? not necessarily formally or anything but just being with one another for as long as they can? It seems like you gave Ghost a home and vice versa, for Ghost to be this protective and even.... possessive a bit? But their relationship really is that of actual adults that don't live in any fairytale at all yet still gravitate towards one another.
YOU'RE TOO KIND. but if IW are lurking, *brushes hair from face* hi, I'm jo, and I'm chaotic but i write a wicked helen.
so. anon, pull up a pew. in my little head of threads, daydreams and angst...
helen will leave first.
her role is entirely different than his, and all the loss, the blood, the pain she's seen has been eating at her for so long, she's not sure where a whole part of her sits. but, it'll be ghost who points it out, "sometimes, it's alright that enough is enough, helen."
they'll buy a home, if they haven't already, and she says she'll decorate it. he doesn't care, he never would or will. he just wants her to be happy, because he's seen her at more low points than highs recently. it'll have a drive, a decent garden, and the'll talk about getting a dog more than they do searching for one.
she'll volunteer/work in a rehab centre back home for wounded soldiers, and she'll leave each day with her head held a little higher. jotting down things in a notebook with a tiny skeleton on it. because it's hard to remember everything that happens when he's gone for so long, but this way, she can remember.
they'd still be together. blissfully happy. it'll be odd, and he'll definitely go looking for her whenever he's back at base. she'll wake up and stretch her arm out, sad that it's cold before pulling a mask from her bedside table that still smells a bit like him.
when he gets home, the two fuck like they're both starved, and it isn't until the third or fourth time that he'll realise she's decorated the bedroom again. "fuckin' hell, helen. what do'ya think this is? 60 minute fuckin' makeover?" and she'll kiss him, telling him it didn't feel right.
he knows why.
and she knows why too.
she'll make him watch shit tv, and go eat at little places she's been waiting to go to, and they'll both hate it, the busy-ness of it, both not suited for crowds at all, but they'll do it because each moment they get to make a memory is a chance they'll never squander.
eventually, ghost realises his knees aren't what they used to be and his heart isn't as in it as it should be. he won't tell her that, and he doesn't tell her he's back for good.
he just waits until she realises, because she never asks. never liking the answer, always glaring at him when he pretends he isn't looking because she secretly doesn't want him to leave. it's only after two weeks, when she realises he's not washed any of his clothes, his masks stuffed in some corner of his duffel, does it click.
and instead of asking, because she's stubborn as shit, she instead asks if now is a good time for a dog.
and he doesn't say anything, instead pulling out his phone, showing her a picture of one he's seen that needs adopting.
her smile will eclipse all others, and his heart will skip a beat at the sight of it as she curls into him, whispering, "he's perfect," as he kisses her forehead.
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I thought you might want to check out a video by Nerdrotic on YouTube, Loki Humiliated Yet Again. It's just 8 minutes long, and they go over the pie eating scene in season 2 Ep. 2, and how Loki used to be badass and a formidable presence, and how pitiful and diluted he has become. They also make a good point by pointing out that this is still supposed to be Avengers Loki who just carried out the NY invasion a few days ago? And how he is so nonchalant and blase about it, there's no weight or gravitas to what he's saying. They also bring up another good point that this is proof yet again that the writers and the MCU no longer care about the previous movies or these characters, or the fans of them. They're using these shows to completely trash what came before.
I know you're not watching season 2 (I'm not either), but it's little comforting to know that there are people out there beyond tumblr and fandom that understand how we feel. Thank you!
You're welcome, dear! Video for the lazy:
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What can I say, I agree with them. That scene of the shadows kind of reminded me of President Loki in S1. I had been so disappointed during the season, looking at TVA Loki and wondering "who the hell is this guy?", and I vividly remember seeing President for the first time and thinking "OMG That's Loki, there he is!". Like, I genuinely thought the variant we had been seeing was a different Loki and the President was IW Loki, I even expected them to confirm him as such... but they never did, of course.
I don't mind him sitting down and (not) eating pie, it's his way of speech and what he's saying. I have no interest in seeing anything right now that openly laughs and mocks what came before. If we're watching the MCU now is only because we liked what came before and it attracted us enough to come for more. The last thing we want is for these new writers to mock the previous phases, this lack of sincerity is exhausting.
For us, seeing Loki throw Stark off the window is funny? Hell yeah, it is. And Stark's comments were hilarious too. But in-universe is NOT the same. Loki would not and should not be talking about it that way. Where's the guilt if he's truly remorseful? Where's the shame that he failed the invasion? And, this is crucial, he saw in the Time Theatre that that failure meant his death at the hands of Thanos. Why, if in S1E1 he openly laughed at his "glorious purpose" after seeing the scene of his death, is he now talking about the NYC invasion like "yeah well, whatever, I threw Stark off the window, what a time that was". WTF?!
Can you imagine TDW Loki talking about the invasion like that? The scene he has with Odin at the beginning of that movie (that I swear is my favourite Loki moment in the MCU, I like it even more than the relic scene in Thor1) and Loki looking at Odin and speaking this way "Yeah dude, I totally threw him off the window".
I get the feeling there's a misplaced belief in current Marvel (except for James Gunn, bless his soul) that something humorous has to be superficial, edgy and/or as sassy as possible. And I'm blaming the hell out of Ragnarok for that.
That scene (that I hadn't seen until now, holy shit, who is that guy? I don't see Loki there at all) has the feel of a teenager at high school talking to a friend about a TikTok video. He had been mindfucked by Thanos, that alone would mean talking about it would mess with him greatly, especially when Loki always had an issue with the loss of control of his own body (taken by Odin, had his physiology changed against his will, Thanos messing with his head, later imprisoned).
Ugh, I hate it. I miss TDW Loki. And I miss TDW Thor. I just miss the TDW so much.
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bedlamsbard · 1 year
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ooo tea on your no-go tropes if ur comfortable sharing
oh sure they're nothing so weird or specific that it's going to call out one specific fic writer, since it's all stuff that I've seen multiple people write and/or talk and/or speculate about. (and some are holdovers from the comics; comics are hardly immune from me not liking things in them.)
Steve getting de-serumed. This one is a huge absolute no for me, and I'm not sure what about it makes me so uncomfortable, but it just does. It makes me so uncomfortable that I don't want to poke at it to figure out why. I know there was a lot of speculation about this circa CACW, around when the title was released but before there were any details of the movie known (when it was assumed it would be closer to the comics counterpart), and then it came again around IW and Endgame both, something about the idea of like..."both the audience and the in-universe characters need to know that Steve isn't Captain America just because he has the serum!" something about the "he needs to be physically depowered in order to Prove Himself" just rubs me absolutely the wrong way. (I think this is another factor in why the Captain Carter What If timeline bothers me so much, but like. there are multiple factors there. I think I talked once about how I have set points in canon and Steve getting the serum is one of them.) (there is one fic I like where the Avengers got deaged and Steve got shrunk back to pre-serum size, but not de-serumed, that one's fine.)
post-Ragnarok (usually IW/Endgame AUs) fics that have Loki on the Raft -- no-go, makes me super uncomfortable, don't want to read it -- I've read enough of it to know that I don't want to read more and it's just not my thing. fine if people like it, just not for me; not something I want to read, not something I'm ever going to write.
anything that characterizes Loki's adoption as baby-stealing (again, What If is not immune) -- I go on fairly regular rants about this, but I (somewhat unusually) have the background of someone who's done a not-insignificant amount of academic work on infant abandonment in the pre-modern world, so it's something I know a lot about on a legal/cultural level. I sometimes say only semi-facetiously that I got into this fandom because as someone who actually knows about this stuff I have a moral responsibility to write about it in a historically-accurate-inspired manner, except as we all know I have not actually posted the chapter that deals really extensively with it. But it makes me really frustrated that people don't seem to realize this was a historical reality and something that had a lot of laws associated with it, instead of being a freak occurrence that is Obviously Bad.
there are a lot of common tropes about Asgard that just make me insane. a brief survey: feudalism, primogeniture, sexism/misogyny -- like, the standard-issue high fantasy stuff that just gets transferred over without any critical thought. which, if that's what you want to write, fine, I hate it, but that's my problem, not yours, no one's forcing me to read it. people putting racism in Valhalla, hate that one, so much.
anything that uses comics!Natasha's backstory for MCU!Natasha. I realize that ten years ago this seemed a lot more reasonable (Natasha having a version of the super soldier serum, being extremely long-lived, etc.), but really from TWS onwards it should have been obvious that that was not the backstory that the MCU was using, and if you are still using that as a writer in 2022 I am judging you. like, I try not to judge people too much in terms of like. ignoring canon, but I literally can't read anything that still uses 2012 base assumptions. (this is hypocritical for me on several levels, though it's also one of the reasons I had to get out of Star Wars, but hey, brains aren't rational. it's one of the casualties of me coming back into the fandom late. it probably would not be a problem for me if I'd stuck around. I'd probably have the same problem I have in Star Wars.)
on a related note, one of my MCU NOTPs is BuckyNat and part of that is because so much of it depends on transferring comics!Natasha's backstory over to MCU!Natasha. they have only interacted twice in canon and both times they were trying to kill each other. every other time they have been in the same scene one or the other of them was interacting with Steve, not each other. like, the heart wants what it wants, shipping is shipping, but treating it as canon-established (which many, many people do in and out of fic fandom, I'm in non-fic fandom circles and people talk about it there as if it's something onscreen) is absurd to me and I'm just ????? to the extent that now I hate it. but no one is forcing me to read it, the heart wants the heart wants, I obviously ship something else so I'm not objective there -- it's just another no-go for me.
comics transference in general. this is going to sound weird, because obviously the MCU is an adaptation of the comic books, but at fourteen years in it should be obvious that you cannot uncritically transfer things over wholesale, especially when it comes to established characters, especially if it outright contradicts canon. I can't read comics!Clint characterization in MCU fic. that ship sailed in 2015 -- honestly, it sailed in 2012, but whatever; we have established that people saw a different movie in 2012 than the one that's on the screen. by the way, the actual MCU is not immune to this; it is at its absolute weakest when it just transfers things over from the comics and expects them to work. they don't. because the MCU ain't the comics. (the worst offender is the Loki ep "Journey Into Mystery" but it is not alone.)
just various characterization tendencies that I see in fandom -- characterization is actually the number one reason I don't usually read fic in my writing fandoms, because we all see characters differently and it's one of the very few things that will make me start doubting my own writing. or just making me angry. (I actually have a very short temper, I hate so many things, I just don't talk about them on main.) I know my characterization does not fly for a lot of people (though unlike in Star Wars, MCU readers don't tell me about it, but I know it has to be true because I've been in fandom for two decades), so again, it is what it is. I know how to click a back button.
there are so many ships I either outright hate or just dislike, but I tend to OTP pretty hardcore once I get there and no one is forcing me to read them. it just gets frustrating sometimes when the ships I dislike are the most common ships for the characters I also write and/or ship with other people. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ but then I also can't really read fic for my own ships because uuuuuuuhhhhhhh the characterization is Wrong. not wrong, just Wrong for me personally. which is why I by and large don't read in my writing fandoms.
Steve Rogers is all hard edges. stop softening him. what the fuck.
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justlikeeddie · 5 months
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another lurking nonny here! the strictly come dancing final is coming and i havent seen as many people so excited about a couple on here before (layton and nikita). do you rlly think someting is going on with them tho cos isnt it just part of the performance..., they play roles each week and its part of the dance.... but if yo see them in their socials they are very like friends. somebody said things changed after argentine Tango week but maybe they just ended up closer friends due to the closeness of dancing together like that, and felt more relaxed arond each other also layton says in the couples choice week that they admitted how they felt like they'd found a brother so maybe thats why they were 'giddy' as that someone said on here. iw ould love for it to be something more but i dont know
delighted to have attracted more than one anon to converse with me about strictly come dancing, tbh
as a long-time rpf enjoyer, i should probably be clear that i don’t really believe in any of it; the game for me is using the public persona of a real person to create a character that i can have fun with. however. there are degrees of it… when i read or write rpf about, like, actors from a tv show, i’m generally 100% certain that nothing ever has happened or will happen between them, but i’m enjoying inventing a world where it could. but i WILL admit that i’m more like… 75% sure nothing is really happening between layton and nikita, and the other 25% of me is like. god. you know what. it fucking could be
but anyway - rpf lives in a fun paradox place in my brain where i simultaneously do and don’t believe the things i’m saying. hope this helps haha
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goddamnwebcomics · 9 months
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I Will Survive Series
It was a series of Zootopia drama fancomics by William Borba. 
I Will Survive: Judy finds out that she’s pregnant with Nick’s child, filling the fox with a lot of joy from the news, but wants an abortion so it doesn’t jeopardize her job. As you can safely assume, Nick doesn’t take it very well.
This is the comic where that infamous slap panel came from. It’s as overly dramatic as it is extremely well known, even to people who’ve never seen Zootopia or read this comic. This is pretty much the highest mark this series will ever reach.
Born to Be Alive: After some months, Nick crawls back to Judy wanting her to take him back. Unfortunately for him, she’s moved on to dating another fox - a vixen to be exact! 
I think the only infamous thing here is that Borba decided to make a sequel to IWS at all. If you like slightly homophobic, desperate Nick and more bad hammy dialogue, then you might enjoy this as or much more than the first story.
The Longest Night: Two of Mr. Big’s prostitutes spend their night trying to do their now freelance jobs while complaining over their former employer going straight after meeting Judy. Nick shows up here, but he doesn’t say anything. 
It’s an in-between chapter of IWS and BtBA, so it’s pretty optional. Same type of “deep” and awkward sounding dialogue that sounds more like two characters talking at each other than with each other. If you want more I Will Survive content before the finale, you can read it.
Never Say Goodbye: It’s a ten year time skip to the future where Judy is both married and the mayor of Zootopia and Nick is a scout master of the Junior Ranger Scouts (also married). They meet up with each other, make amends with one another, and talk about the existing problems of fascism for a bit.
Nothing much to really say here except that this is definitely an ending. Could’ve gone without the epilogue though.
The only exemplary aspect in these comics is the artwork. Everything else, the writing, the drama, the various topics it attempts to tackle, are just terrible. Half of the time it feels like one big joke, with or without this comic being Zootopia related to begin with. I also still have no idea why the titles of each story (minus maybe The Longest Night) are named after songs, outside of title drops near the end of each. They hardly ever feel like there’s a theme to them at all.
The author has confirmed this whole comic is just a gigantic parody of the Zootopia fandom, several times. Even if it was a badly executed parody, it still would be beating a dead horse. Moving on.
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starmora · 1 year
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I think Gunn cared about all the characters but he cared about the finale he wanted even more. The difference in character building, paying attention to smaller details and giving more equal space to each individual dynamic in vol 1 & 2 compared to what we see in vol 3 is pretty noticeable. Even with its flaws IW balanced muiltple characters and smaller plot points better than vol 3. As others have said in vol 3 you'd think IW and EG never happened. You have barely any idea about what happened after EG either except Peter clearly fell apart and Gamora somehow ended up a ravager who was somehow keeping up Nebula for some undisclosed amount of time. That's not good storytelling. We don't even know if the characters think Gamora was ressurected with no memory or if they know she's from the past. I'm also confused because the film treats it as if Gamora herself wasn't in EG
Gamora finally got to connect with the guardians and at least feel something for Peter but that's it. She's back with the ravagers like she didn't just go through a pretty emotional experience that opened up a whole new view of herself and what had happened before. I get the ravagers are who she's been with but there's too much that's went on to act like things hadn't changed.
I don't know what happened behind closed doors and I'm sure there were more details to all of this than we will know. But I do think people had enough self awareness to realize Gamora shouldnt stay dead dead but not enough to realize just being alive and present wasn't enough. Add to that Gunn having zero flexibility to work with the complexities of a shared universe and sexism/biases and everything became disjointed. There's good stuff for Gamora in vol 3 but there needed to be more and I think whatever small details played a part in larger decision making need to be talked about by Gunn away from Twitter so there aren't vague answers running amuck or a dozen different types of responses to the same question that are similar enough to not be a complete contradiction but different enough wording to cause confusion.
You’re right, maybe it’s unfair to say he doesn’t care about Gamora but it just feels like he cared about Rocket and his story the most and Gamora is unfortunately the one who suffered the most for this, for some odd bizarre reason, when it really didn’t have to be that way.
It’s funny you mention that about not knowing anything after eg, because I went with my mom to see the movie again (this was her third time seeing it with me, and she has seen every other movie the guardians are in multiple times, so it’s not like gotg is new for her) and she turned to me and told me she was confused about pretty much everything that happened in the opening of the movie and asked me what happened for them to have gotten to the point where they all have this base on Knowhere and Gamora is a ravager and everyone doesn’t seem to really care what she’s been up to and she asked me to explain it to her and I just. Couldn’t, because there wasn’t an answer. Like you just have to use your imagination I guess and that’s fine but it also feels like he just kind of wanted to jump to the end and tell his rocket story and get out.
I truly believe he thought about it and considered what would be best for her but it’s just clear to me he didn’t give her the same level of attention he gave Rocket or Peter, and honestly probably didn’t even consult anyone or get any sort of second opinion on it because he just doesn’t seem like the kind of guy to do that with all his talk about having complete control lmao. And like in a perfect world where infinity war had never happened to her, I don’t think that would have mattered AS much but it did and she needed a little more love and attention from Gunn because of it that he seemingly just didn’t wanna give
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caatws · 1 year
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As a Natasha and Gamora fan I find it interesting that both women were firsts in many ways, had their lives ended using Vormir and as a result of their deaths they both ended up with less focus in their final team films. Also It's interesting that in both cases a male character, Tony and Yondu, ended up with funerals while they didn't. Natasha ended up with the better end of the deal than Gamora did, which is another layer of issues with representation, but in the ways things for them are similar I think it brings up how women's stories aren't centered in the same way men's are and that's a symptom of how women's lives aren't valued in the way men's are. It's not just the mcu either. There are more stories centered around men and we see the same types of stories over and over often be lauded as fresh and unique when really it's nothing new. We also have more instances of men getting to play roles well into old age and be seen as worth investing in. I have also noticed that when women speak up about wanting something to be changed about a role they play or wanting more they are seen as being greedy or whiny. When men have similar issues there's more support. I'm glad things are changing but it's still something I believe is worth noting when I think about how it was only 5/4 years ago that both Gamora and Natasha were killed off in a concept that didn't exist before IW and has had no further meaning for them or the mcu. It was ultimately just a place to die.
I am glad Natasha eventually got a solo movie but it's sad it took so long and it was after she died instead of adding to her story beforehand. I'm glad Gamora was in vol 3, but the fact that they brought her back in a way where all of the life she had that wasn't attached to being abused by Thanos no longer existed for her, is unsettling
With Gamora it's also interesting to see how while Natasha's death was taken seriously, hers has been uneven. Following Endgame, where we got to explore it with Nebula, it's Peter devastated and the writing around the rest of her family is almost like a running gag of we don't know what happened, who knows what happened. Which isn't funny. We know what took place so why not be serious about it and show more respect. It was sad to see Rocket's abuse and near death written as if it was a bad thing while Gamora's abuse and murder was written as if it didn't really happen. Same for 2014 Gamora being in the future. It's treated as if that wasn't a hard and emotional experience for her though Endgame showed there was so much going on that would need to be worked through.
It's frustrating that there has been no transparency about what dying on Vormir means for Natasha and Gamora potentially having an afterlife. Are their souls stuck on Vormir would be nice to know. Does Thanos trying to destroy the stones mean anything for Gamora's soul is another important factor. This lack of transparency has disappointingly followed Gamora. Gunn doesn't make much of anything clear about Gamora's post Endgame life or purpose. Why she end up with the ravagers and was she ever curious about the guardians at some point are never talked about. Was there something for her to gain by taking part in this last journey with the guardians separate from her interactions with Peter is another important part not elaborated on. These are some things I think could be beneficial for fans to know. Especially in light of a number of people wanting to dismiss her after vol 3. I'm curious if Gunn is at all aware that Gamora has represented something and that her death wasn't a non issue.
At this point I just think gunn doesn’t even really care abt the gamora thing. Not necessarily in an intentional or even malicious way, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this whole thing is just way more unserious for him, and like he thinks those of us with these issues are just taking it too seriously or are way too focused on just one thing. I mean, that’s just the vibe I get from him lol which is just kind of annoying
The blatant sexism throughout the infinity saga could not have been made more apparent in infinity war and endgame. Like after nat and gamora’s deaths, we got the All Female Team-Up Scene that did feel forced bc literally hardly any of those characters have gotten to interact before, meanwhile we just spent 5 hours watching male characters from different franchises get to interact and develop relationships etc. And just…how are you gonna finally have le epic girl power scene after 10 years but not even have either original female lead (not counting 2014!gamora bc she Is Not The Original Female Lead of gotg bc she is a Separate Character) in it 🫨
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Hi Art 💕💕
First of all, I wanted to say that I was listening to Hozier yesterday and I thought of you and the iw couple! And actually listening to Hozier always makes me think of you, Art!! I think your writing and his lyrics give me the same feelings honestly, something about both of them hits me so deep in my soul and yet it also makes me wish I saw the world though your eyes because you make it seem so much more beautiful and full of love. I don't know if that makes any sense at all but I was thinking about it, so I wanted to share!
Also about your question of which parts have made us cry the most, I think I'm pretty similar to everyone else and the parts that had me constantly crying while reading were the ones where the characters are sad too and are feeling hurt.
In "in which you don’t want to give up on jungkook (even when he gave you reasons to, even if they give you reasons to)." I was absolutely right there with them, feeling all of those emotions and crying my eyes out and then I cried even more when Jungkook was comforting OC, all of it was so beautiful and emotional. And of course I will never not mention this line: "four months have passed, but it isn’t time’s job to heal all wounds. it’s his." Because I think it perfectly shows how they take responsibility for the way they make each other feel (both bad and good) and how considerate and emotionally intelligent they are 😭😭😭
OC feeling sad will always get me the most I think, because we know how much pain they've already gone through and I just want them to never ever feel hurt again 🥹🥹🥹 So things like this from "in which jungkook is giving up on you but you have so much love left to give." really get to me: “i tried living without you like you wanted- but i can’t-” you hiccup in between small sobs on the other line. “i love you, jungkook. i can’t live carrying around all this love with me. it’s too heavy…” Thankfully Jungkook is always there to make them feel better the way they deserve 🥺🥺
Your beautiful writing makes everything a thousand times more heartbreaking and lines like these: "you let jungkook come too close. he slept on your bed and he learned that you’re always cold. he enveloped you in the safety of his warm embrace and you couldn’t will yourself to leave after the first time. you’ve surrendered to him the control over your body, and also your heart, which you may be breaking alongside your rule but… walking away would mean forsaking yourself." from "in which jungkook misses you before he even leaves" feel like they're speaking to the rawest, deepest parts of my soul.
Another thing that made me cry from that drabble was this part: "he tenderly strokes your hair, eyes filled with galaxies memorizing every inch of your face. he’s scared, too. he’s scared that he’s overestimating himself. too ambitious, too greedy for wanting both the world and the most beautiful person he has ever seen in it to love him. he’s scared of getting too exhausted. he’s scared that you won’t be there anymore when he opens his eyes." Their fears are so warranted, they could really end up being hurt or hurting each other, and yet that makes them even braver for still trying to make it work, for still loving each other despite all of that.
In general every time I think or read about them putting the other first, the care with which they consider each other, OC getting so worried about Kook being hurt, or him thinking about just how beautiful of a person OC really is, anything can have me sobbing on the spot. I think I've said it before but even just your titles are enough to make me cry sometimes. Your words just have such an effect on me, and I've also really grown to love these two and the love they have for each other so so much.
Sorry for rambling a little, I feel like I've said all of that a hundred times before but the love I have for you and your stories is too much for me to keep inside. Hope you're doing well, Art 💞💞💞
oh my god i’m so honored. thank you so much for thinking of me alongside such an incredible artist my sweetest ivi 😭💕💕💕
I think your writing and his lyrics give me the same feelings honestly, something about both of them hits me so deep in my soul and yet it also makes me wish I saw the world though your eyes because you make it seem so much more beautiful and full of love
and honestly you’re one of the people who makes me view the world as beautiful as i do 🥺🫂
And of course I will never not mention this line: "four months have passed, but it isn’t time’s job to heal all wounds. it’s his." Because I think it perfectly shows how they take responsibility for the way they make each other feel (both bad and good) and how considerate and emotionally intelligent they are 😭😭😭
YOU GET MEEEE this line is definitely the most memorable one in that work for me as well 😭😭😭 (the both good and bad got me. i’m sobbing) often times it feels like the easiest route is to allow enough time to pass to bury our mistakes, but the guilt stays ❤️‍🩹 and i wanted to show that taking accountability is what allows both parties to heal 🥺
OC feeling sad will always get me the most I think, because we know how much pain they've already gone through and I just want them to never ever feel hurt again 🥹🥹🥹
honestly same >:( writing about oc’s pains got me crying the hardest than i ever have while writing and i’ve written a loooot of sad stuff 😭 oc is the type of person i want to build a personal utopia for 🥺
Their fears are so warranted, they could really end up being hurt or hurting each other, and yet that makes them even braver for still trying to make it work, for still loving each other despite all of that.
i feel like a proud parent tearing up rn my babies you’ve fought so hard to keep loving each other </3 you said this so so so beautifully. thank you 🥺🥺🥺
I think I've said it before but even just your titles are enough to make me cry sometimes.
i remember this toooooo 🥹 coming up with the titles is like one of the most fun parts about the iw series i’m so geeked when they’re acknowledgedhfkdhfjdjhg i freaking love you !!! and your ramblings !!! thank you for matching my energy 🥹🥹🥹 bc when you ramble i also get to ramble about them without feeling silly as the writer hEhehehe the nasty ass flu got me knocked down rn so i’m veryyy sorry if this messy and incoherent T_T but seeing you in my inbox is so healing and made me feel all warm inside 🥰 please be healthy and happy my baby love
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Do you maybe have any stevetony fanfic recommendations?
why, yes, i do! to be fair, i haven't read any stevetony fics in over a year, but i still have my ao3 bookmarks and my old marvel blog haha. also, just a warning before anything else: i'm a big, big fan of angsty fics, so, yeah.
my absolute favorite piece of writing in the marvel fandom is the series what we share (and what we hide) by @machi-kun​​. the 1st part is set right after CACW, before IW, from steve’s POV, and the 2nd part is still a work in progress, post-IW, from tony’s POV. despite it not being finished, i can't recommend it enough. just trust me. you haven't seen writing like this.
Hating Steve Rogers: my second favorite piece of writing. the angst in this one gave me butterflies. 
An Infinite Number Of Monkeys At Typewriters (Or, Steve and Tony Finally Get It Right):  After the events of Civil War, Tony and Steve wake up in bed next to each other in an alternate universe. It goes about as well as you’d expect it to.
Lost With You (Might Be All I Need): Tony and Steve fall through a portal just after defeating Thanos and his army. Stranded in another dimension, the two have to finally face what happened—and what could have been.
All Roads Lead To: After Obadiah’s betrayal, Tony hides in the depths of the Midwest to become a mechanic. The Avengers come into his life anyway.
The Jar:  The Avengers are ridiculously competitive people, and what starts out as a silly late-night team discussion quickly becomes a contest: their names. Not the code names – the nicknames. Who can go the longest without using them?
Lost Together: Being trapped in a horrible world where some things are like home, and some things are terrifyingly not, is bad enough. But when it becomes clear that the people here come in pairs - and unpaired people are a threat - Steve and Tony are forced to pretend that they’re a pair too, if they ever want to make it home alive.
Binary System: Tony tends to be tactile with people he trusts. These days that list of people includes Steve, which is a good sign of the progression of their friendship. 
Stick With Me, Baby, I’m the Fella You Came in With: During the final battle with Ultron, Tony kisses Steve for the first time. Afterward, he makes it clear to Steve that he was just running on adrenaline and not thinking clearly. (this whole series is AMAZING, tbh)
Take Care, I’m Easily Broken: Tony isn’t the type of person to pine quietly.
Someone to Love: What does it matter that it’d been because of Loki and his damn magic? He’d fallen in love with Steve once. He can do it again.
Take Two: Steve loses his memory but he gets the feeling he’s lost a lot more. Who exactly is Tony Stark to him and why won’t he come out of the basement? (AMNESIA AU, i can’t scream this loudly enough)
Love’s Such an Old-Fashioned Word: Steve gets the very brilliant idea that he and Tony should date, but Tony needs some convincing.
Rebirth: this is the 1st part of a series. if you really like angst, i strongly recommend this one. the comment i wrote in my bookmark for this is literally “WHOEVER YOU ARE, YOU ARE NOT READY FOR THIS ANGST” lmao (unfortunately, the 2nd part is not as good, but that’s another issue).
when i run out of road, you bring me home: my comment on this bookmark is: “tony owns a farm, steve shows up, lots of kids show up, FOUND FAMILY” fhsdjhfjk
The Butterfly Effect: While fighting with Loki, Steve Rogers from 2012 hears the two simple words: “Bucky’s alive.” And the whole universe ripples with the aftershocks.
A Hundred Times, Once: The shrill tone of his SHIELD beeper pulls Steve out of sleep and into battle. He fights robots, he fights Tony’s shameless advances, he fights the exhaustion that threatens to take over him, drown him. And then the next morning, he wakes and does it again. Exactly the same. And again. And again. And again.
As Sharp As Any Thorn: It’s four days to Christmas, there’s a city in shambles, and the nation is in mourning because of the actions of a single man.
dreaming through the decades: “S-soulmates aren’t supposed to share dreams until they’re teenagers.” “Teenagers,” the boy repeats after a moment, like Tony had just spoken another language. “We’re too young,” Tony tells him. “I’m- I’m only eight.” “Me, too,” the boy says. His face keeps flickering from hope to something like fear. He takes an uncertain step forwards, but stops when Tony’s back becomes even more rigid. “I’m Steve Rogers.”
and he looks up: the steve/tony Titanic!AU with a happy ending for the Avengers.
most ardently: It is a truth universally acknowledged that a genius playboy in possession of the world’s largest tech conglomerate must be in want of a skinny little artist with an attitude problem. (pride and prejudice AU)
oof. these are a lot, but, on the bright side, you can pick whatever tickles your fancy? 😅
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I never have to dig very much to find comments like this.
[Also, random side note; wasn't Drax in prison when we first meet him for going on a killing spree after the death of his family? I feel like everyone forgets that.]
He's called Drax the Destroyer for a reason.
Thor may not be a villain to others but he's destroying himself ever since IW. Quill became a ravager and the dude was a thief and a liar, he treated women like crap and was overall a manchild before he met his team (poor thing was taken as a kid, I'm not putting all the blame on him but I'm trying to say he wasn't exactly an angel either). Spidey would have gone full-dark had not been for Tobey and Andrew's Spideys interfering.
The last one is interesting though. Peter losing May is seen as enough justification for his thirst for revenge, to the point where taking the villains from a safe space over to a building in the middle of the city (therefore putting everyone else at risk) is glossed over.
However, when it comes to Wanda losing Vision or her hate towards Hayward for desecrating Vision's corpse, all of a sudden Vision is just a robot and her pain is irrelevant... or we have to read someone claim loss doesn't "justify" her becoming a villain. Yeah, it doesn't. It explains it. It contextualizes it. It tells us why she was hurting.
Just think of the victims of the characters mentioned above. The Jotuns are treated as monsters and the Asgardians' actions are never put into question (TDW was close though). We never hear from the people hurt by Quill or the Ravagers, same with Drax's victims. And we have no idea how many people the villains in NWH killed because it's never addressed. But we know Wanda's, we have names even.
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choose violence: 12 + 16 + 24 (sorry in advance if I pick ones you've already answered)
12. the unpopular character that you actually like and why more people should like them
I answered Howard for this the last time, who else is actually unpopular that I like...I'm going to say Betty Ross. I don't think she's necessarily unpopular, I think that for the greater MCU she's just less known because she only appeared in The Incredible Hulk, which is now fifteen years old, not available on Disney+, and had its main character recast in The Avengers, so it's really easy to overlook. TIH also has some weird pacing, but given what she actually does in TIH, Betty is just...incredibly strong, character-wise, and manages to give off such a vivid sense of personality despite not necessarily having a lot to do in the film. And at the risk of defining her in respect to Bruce Banner, I think she occupies a really unique position in regard to him, because at the end of the day Betty Ross loves Bruce Banner full stop, end of story, no questions asked; everyone else sees Bruce in terms of "here's the Hulk," with not much space left for Bruce himself, and Betty is the only person who's more interested in Bruce than the Hulk. And all of that comes through in TIH; this is a woman who blows up her whole life for the man she loves and then has to live with the wreckage.
16. you can't understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc)
oh, most things, though usually I can turn my brain sideways enough to figure out why people like them even if they do absolutely nothing for me and are usually contra canon (or at least my read on canon). what's one of them. oh, wait, here's one that I absolutely do not get: people who really want Thor to not be king or to be in a position of leadership/responsibility. (I haven't seen TLAT yet, so I don't know what that movie does with it.) inasmuch as they had a through-line, the first three Thor movies are all dealing with kingship in the medieval Germanic sense, good kingship, bad kingship, culminating in Thor taking up that responsibility in Ragnarok (and then having it stripped away from him in IW); kind of similar to this read on Theoden. And for me, as someone who grew up reading Germanic (Norse, English, Old English, etc.) literature and mythology and who is a classically-trained medieval historian as well as being a high fantasy reader all my life, it's really obvious to me that that is what those movies were doing. And while Endgame itself later completely flinches away from it, even before that, I see so many Thor fans who were really angry that Thor actually took up the throne, and I do not understand, to this day, where that is coming from. like, is it general American "we hate monarchies"? is it people who are not familiar with those tropes? is it people who just decided they hated Asgard? like, I literally do not understand!
24. topic that brings up the most rancid discourse
gave a list for this in my last response so here's part 2
the MCU: is it good or bad (it's neutral, y'all; it's done some things really well and some things really poorly, and yes, it changed the face of the entertainment industry; I don't think it's as easy to answer as a yes or no question)
any of the deaths in Infinity War and Endgame. like, pick one, it always goes terribly.
does Asgard have primogeniture? I don't actually know how much discourse there is about this but it's the one that drives me personally insane.
Tony Stark and Peter Parker. any variation of this just goes places.
how absolutely weird Hayley Atwell and Peggy Carter fans are about Sharon Carter and Emily van Camp. I don't know how much this one comes up anymore but I've Seen Things.
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norwegianpornfaerie · 2 years
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Love and Thunder: A Review (of sorts)
I am... significantly torn.
I've had such ups and downs with this movie, ever since it was announced. I remember coming home from a night out, half-asleep and checking my phone before bed, and seeing a headline about it being planned. I rolled my eyes and fell asleep. I was NOT happy with the MCU at the time, and I was worried they would fuck it up.
Then I woke up, saw Taika was directing, and went straight to euphoria. I know people either love or hate Ragnarok, and I'm one of those who adored it. This was the best possible news, as far I as was concerned, and as I put it to a friend of mine "I don't care if he ends up marrying Thor and Jane and having them settle down with twelve kids and that's the movie - Taika would make it work."
Time passed, and I got even more unhappy with the MCU. Endgame - to my mind - was terrible, and the fact that it seemed so universally loved put me even more off. I started having doubts about L&T. I got cynical.
Then along came Our Flag Means Death, and suddenly I was back on board again. Surely, a man who could play a character like Blackbeard with such nuance and understanding, and co-write a show with such great representation, would not mess things up.
And... Well.
Is it a bad movie? I... honestly can't decide. There are things I like about it. There are things I love about it. There are quite a few things didn't like about it, and there are even more things I wish it would have included, but did not even allude to. I suppose, more than anything, I am disappointed, but I am disappointed in such an unexpected way.
Here's an entirely spoiler-free summary: It's certainly not Ragnarok. The writing is okay if disappointing knowing what Taika can do, the acting is fine, and there are some genuinely hilarious moments. The pacing is weird, the tone is wobbly, and the plot is a little whatever. There are queer characters. Overall... meh with a side of disappointment. But I'll watch it again. More details on my likes and dislikes, with as few spoilers as possible:
Here's what I liked:
The goats. As seen in the trailer. The goats are wonderful.
Mighty Thor's character design and look in general, her fighting style, and how Mjølner worked for her.
The possible trans representation. (See posts elsewhere on my Tumblr for details.)
The look and feel of New Asgard - I just wish we got to see more of it.
The return of the acting troupe from Ragnarok (especially the casting of Hela).
A supporting character is confirmed to be queer.
Thor's Loki tattoo - as seen in the trailer. It is spectacular in the film, and there's so much detail.
The subtle implication that Thor doesn't need a weapon; a lovely resolution to the damage IW and EG did to what was established in Ragnarok.
What I didn't like:
The resolution of Jane/Mighty Thor's arc.
Valkyrie was shamefully underused.
The tone. It was all over the place. Ragnarok had a perfect balance of humor and genuine feeling, with characters who felt real, but this movie felt like a comic book in a bad way.
It's never really explained what or who gods ARE.
The ending. It felt too simple, in a Disneyfied, familiy movie sort of way.
It feels rushed. The pacing is off, and there's never any time to breathe.
The plot is thin, at best.
What dissapointed me:
Thor's characterization. I honestly could not tell if he was meant to be a dick, or if he's going through something. I think it's supposed to be the latter, but it's too shallow to tell. I never in a million years would have expected this from Taika. Where's the character growth? FFS.
Very little actual, unambigous, queer representation. Even the trans representation, if intentional, went over the head of a lot of people. Yeah, my expectations were high, but even so.
So... yeah. Not sure what to make of all that. What did y'all think? I need to see it again, honestly. Give it some thought.
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my mum is giving it the big ol' 'BUT IT'S HARD FOR MEEEEEEEEE I CAN'T GENDER OR NAME YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO BE NAMED OR GENDERED BECAUSE I HAVE KNOWN YOU FOR 30 YEARS IT'S HARD FOR MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE' without considering that, maybe, it's hard for me to be constantly called my deadname or daughter or girl or woman and ick
i should've known she'd be like this. last time, with aster, it was 'it's not masculine enough i'd never remember the difference' and now it's 'well i named you [deadname] i christened you as that so that you will always be to me'. should've seen it coming when she referred to a former tranas colleague of hers as 'deadname(preferredname)' like. what had that trans woman ever done for you to misname and gender her at every turn. she also talks at length about how weird this trans woman was, while misgendering her consistently. has done sicne iw as a teen.
so i guess i see where it comes from and shouldn't be surprised but it still really hurts when she laughs and says 'you're changing your name AGAIN?!' like the way people percieve me and the name i might have FOREVER, longer than my shitty deadname i hope, isn't a big decision that i want to be sure i get right???? plus why am i not 'allowed' to experiment with names and presentatioin and gender and all of that?! i'm a fucking adult for gods sake. god. i need to calm down before i implode
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