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#Topa
inkdrawndreamer · 1 year
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I'm on the third season of the Orville and man, Topa's whole storyline is mesmerizing. It might not be perfect, but this show has one of the most nuanced takes on trans or intersex discrimination that I've seen in media. It's refreshing to see what Topa goes through as a baby framed as an issue of consent and bodily autonomy. So many intersex people are forced to undergo procedures to change their bodies as children, and I appreciate that the lack of consent from Topa is given as much priority as the misogyny fueling the procedure. I get that it's not quite the same thing, but it's an excellent parallel to that kind of situation. Explains the issue well. Also the love. Nearly everyone wants this kid to be okay, to be happy.
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orvilles-log · 4 months
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THE ORVILLE C1.01 - New Beginnings
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Bortus: A note? You sneak out and leave me a note?
Topa: I knew you would just argue with me.
Bortus: It wasn’t even a good note, “If you are reading this I am probably dead.” What sort of note is that?
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apodemus-sylvaticus · 2 years
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Now Bortus and Ed can bond over the fact they are both dads of daughters they fathered with a radically conservative partners who were so stuck in their traditions that they actually abandoned their daughters they consider to be abominations. A rather specific club, isn't it :D.
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unionshiporville · 2 years
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I JUST finished watching a Tale of two Topas and I have things to say.
It's been long since I had to actually cry on any show episode or a movie, and I cried three times in this episode alone.
Klyden is good to go. (I know he's gonna come back) Topa does not need any of his internalised toxicity and I'm so glad to see how much Bortus loves and supports his daughter.
BORTUS LOVES HER SO MUCH I CAN'T ANYMORE
He barely ever gets big emotional reactions, but then he's sitting with Grayson and starts crying because he wants to help and make his child happy but doesn't know how. You have no idea how important that scene was to me. All this parental love stored in him. (Also that he gave her the password to let her find out.)
I also love the Orville for actually picking up old Storylines again (also everyone deciding to embarrass Kelly for becoming a god again and again). And how this was build up with the recurring issues between Bortus and Klyden. And how it was revealed that Bortus was already keeping Locars heterosexuality a secret for years which was against Moclus principals.
AND OF COURSE I'M WAITING FOR MORE TOPA.
Not to forget Bortus concert. Truly an amazing singer. So happy that he helped his daughter by throwing a concert.
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wraithmancy · 10 months
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So, Topa
I have been watching and enjoying The Orville for a while now, but i’ve had this conflicting pit in my stomach about Topa and her story ever since she came up. I don’t know anyone personally who also watches so I’m just putting my long form thoughts on it here.
At first I loved Topa’s story so much. I thought that the show had done a pretty good job at portraying the real life struggles that intersex people face, and was even pretty good at a trans story if read that way. Then, unfortunately, transphobes happened. I started seeing comments and posts and things taking Topa’s story completely differently. They talked about it as if it was some gotcha moment, like look, see, no matter what you change you’re still your birth gender.
As an AFAB trans person this. Stinks. And I know it was sort of an inevitable occurrence, it is Macfarlane’s show, and his past media hasn’t exactly been very open to. Well. Anything. So people following him and his work from those likely carry the same mindset. Even so, I thought since publicly he has said that it was not supposed to be a TERF-y story, so many people wouldn’t be able to use it as a gotcha moment. But they still do, and it makes me feel weird about the whole story and show, and makes me question if the writers intentions were really with us and not on some terf crud.
I dunno. If anyone has any thoughts on this pls do share I really dont know how to feel.
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transpidergwen · 2 years
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The Orville said fuck you terfs
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speedygal · 2 years
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Future Moclan Union Captain on the bridge.
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ploppythespaceship · 2 years
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Something noticed on my most recent Orville rewatch -- in A Tale of Two Topas, when Kelly says that Topa is unhappy, Klyden's response is "All children are unhappy. He will outgrow it." And knowing that Klyden was also surgically altered to conform to his all-male society, that line just hits a little different.
I have to wonder if Klyden experienced the same dysphoria when he was young, knowing that something was wrong but not having any way to express those feelings or even recognize the cause. So instead he just buried it deep down and fully embraced Moclan tradition in the hopes that it would make those feelings go away. It's just an interesting thought, the idea that Klyden was initially so intolerant of Topa being female because he recognized something of himself in her, and that terrified him.
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i am topa's number 1 fan
if she has 100 fans im one of them, if she has 1 fan its me, if she has no fans im dead, if the world is against topa i am against the world
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damn I wish a robot was there to hear my mum tell me medical transition would mutilate me beyond repair and just be like "that is inaccurate :)" what a dream
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orvilles-log · 2 years
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THE ORVILLE 1.03 - About a Girl
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Have a lil animated orville doodle I did in my spare time
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galactic-empress · 2 years
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appreciation post for pretty clothing
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unionshiporville · 2 years
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Have you no room in your heart for tolerance?
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