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kakenaku · 5 years
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what are your thoughts about idols venturing into dramas? and do you have someone in mind that you think did really well when they got casted? 😊
Oh wow anon, this is actually a pretty interesting question!
I would say first off that I don’t have a problem with it if they’ve put a lot of effort into preparing (ie. acting lessons, learning accents…etc) or if they just have a real knack for it. One thing I feel kind of bad about is when really skilled actors who have been acting for years still play supporting roles when an idol comes in as a lead straight away. I understand though since its all about profit and marketing, not about who the most talented ones are.
For idols I thought did a good job:
Park Jinyoung (Got7)- He is Psychometric
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I might be biased since im a fan (quite obvious lmao) but he did a fantastic job as Lee Ahn in a pretty demanding drama. He put a huge amount of effort into preparing for fight scenes and pictures of his script covered in annotations showed his dedication. In conclusion i miss Ahn and i hope to see Jinyoung on screen again, but not any time soon since my boy is super busy.
Im Siwan (ZE:A)- Hell is other People, Misaeng, The Merciless
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The first drama role i saw him in was Misaeng and he stole all our hearts, then he goes on to act in one of the most twisted dramas as the troubled Jongwoo. I’m also a huge fans of his movies, including The Attorney (which made me cry so much). This man is honestly a chameleon, there’s nothing he can’t do.
Lee Hyeri (Girls Day)- Reply 1988, Hyde Jekyll Me
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There was no way I wasn’t going to include the person who brought Deoksun to life. I didn’t enjoy Two Cops but that was mainly because of the whole sexual assault blackmailing thing that went on, but nothing about her acting. I’ve only seen her in bubbly roles so i’m interested to see if she could do dark roles.
Do Kyungsoo (EXO)- Hello Monster, Its Okay thats Love
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Probably the idol actor that comes to most minds simply because he is brilliant. He’s incredible at the darker roles and the way he expresses himself in dramatic scenes just has me speechless (we all know that one scene in IOTL).
Lee Junho (2pm)- Just Between Lovers, Confession, Chief Kim
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Like Siwan, Junho has been acting for a while and it really shows. He blew us all away as Kang Doo and he made everyone laugh their asses off with his chemistry with Namgoong Min in Chief Kim. I seriously cannot wait for his return to dramaland as i’m sure he’ll surprise us all once again.
Jung Eunji (Apink)- Reply 1997, Cheer Up
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From the few things i’ve seen her in, Eunji really does a great job in comedic roles. Although Reply 97 wasn’t my favourite of the series (nothing can beat ‘88) she certainly was a really fun lead. She did a horror movie this year but i’m a scaredy-cat so I won’t be watching that.
Bonus: Singer/actors that I don’t count as idols
IU- My Mister, Moon Lovers, Hotel Del Luna (Manweol i miss you)
Seo Inguk- Shopping King, Hello Monster, Reply 1997 (you know you’re good when people forget you’re even a singer- and a good one at that)
Uee (ex-After School)- Hogu’s Love, My Husband Oh Jakdoo (I don’t see Uee mentioned a lot but i actually enjoy her acting)
Lee Hongki (FT Island)- Hw*yugi, Modern Farmer (are FTisland idols? I don’t even know honestly)
Lee Joon (ex MBLAQ)- My Father is Strange, Gapdong (ok i only watched like 4 episodes but he was great)
Sorry anon, you didn’t ask for a list but I thought I’d make one anyways simply because i’m indecisive and can’t pick just one.
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goodqueenaly · 5 years
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Presuming that Brandon loved Barbrey as much as she loved him, what would have happened if he had refused his father Rickard and the betrothal to Catelyn Tully? Could Brandon and Barbrey have eloped? What consequences would they have faced? Would Rickard have made Ned heir?
I’m not sure I believe that Brandon really loved Barbrey, at least enough to run away and elope with her (and certainly they didn’t IOTL, of course). In any event, however, I doubt Rickard would have allowed his heir, who played such a key role in his plans for southron ambitions, to have eloped with a mere vassal’s daughter and had the marriage stand. Lord Rickard would have had options to avoid as much scandal as possible tainting his ambitions.
So Lord Rickard might have stated that marriage simply hadn’t happened. Who would dare gainsay the Lord of Winterfell? If Lord Ryswell was happy to support the union of the heir to Winterfell with his daughter, he might have been less eager to know that his overlord, from whom all favor in the North flowed, was none too pleased with it. Similarly, I could imagine where the witnesses would have melted away if they knew testifying in favor of the marriage would mean courting the wrath of Lord Stark (and, perhaps, the Tullys and their allies as well - after all, Brandon would have been breaking his betrothal to Catelyn to do this).
Rickard could have also suggested that the marriage had never really been consummated. With all the riding done around the Rills and Barrowton, it might have been an easy enough line to believe that Barbrey had lost her maidenhead to a horse long before she encountered Brandon. Rickard might have also added a suggestion that Lord Ryswell wouldn’t benefit from having it advertised that his daughter - and marital bargainning chip - was no maiden; better to sweep it all away as a misunderstanding among hot-blooded young people. (Of course, even a consummated marriage can be put aside in Westeros, though I would imagine Rickard wouldn’t have wanted to get to the point of acknowledging there had been a legitimate, consummated marriage in the first place.)
But most of all, I think Rickard would have been very blunt with his son and anyone else who supported this venture. If Brandon wanted to maintain this venture, Rickard could simply cut him off - no more grand title to inherit at Rickard’s own death, no more wealth, nothing but the clothes on his back and the sword at his side. For Brandon, child of ultimate northern privilege, this might have seemed a most unwelcome consequence; it would be much harder to do and take as he liked when he was no more than Brandon Lackland, heir to nothing. Would Lady Barbrey, Rickard might have argued to his son, hitherto raised as an aristocratic northern lady, enjoy being a mere sellsword’s wife, trailing after her penniless husband as he sought employment with minor southron lordlings or Essosi free companies? Faced with the prospect of surrendering his lover and keeping his privileged position, or keeping Barbrey and giving up life as he had known it, Brandon might easily have chosen the former.
(I’m reminded of the scene in Wolf Hall, between Henry Percy and Thomas Cromwell. For anyone who doesn’t know the story, Henry Percy, heir to an old and powerful noble family, contracts a secret betrothal with Anne Boleyn, despite being contracted to marry the similarly blue-blooded Mary Talbot. Cardinal Wolsey has the secret betrothal put aside and Henry married to Lady Mary, but years later asserts that he was always truly married to Anne Boleyn. Thomas Cromwell is sent by the Boleyn faction to talk to Henry, and in no uncertain terms tells him to give up the argument or regret spending the rest of his life stripped of wealth and title. If you get the chance to watch Wolf Hall sometime, I highly recommend it - Harry Lloyd makes a very good Henry Percy.)
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kyungsoobr-blog · 5 years
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[Trans] -  AWTG Kyungsoo, no, it’s a great performance that didn’t disappoint my expectations I fell for his acting in IOTL, this time too, I went to watch without delay but was surprised on the day he announced his enlistment! (Really, he’s always calm/cool)
I’m looking forward to his acting in 2nd chapter, I’ll be waiting for his activities after his dismissal!
[Trans] - [Trans] - Along With The Gods Kyungsoo, não, é um grande performance, mas ele não desapontoi minhas expectativas. Eu me apaixonei pela sua atuação em IOTL, dessa vez também, eu fui assistir sem esperar, mas fiquei surpreso no dia que ele anunciou seu alistamento! 
Realmente, ele está sempre calmo. Eu estou ansioso pelo segundo episódio da atuação dele, Eh estarei esperando por suas atividades após sua dispensa militar!
Cred: exoxoi__do
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bonjourtoaya · 6 years
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[Naver] / [Pann] Kyungsoo scoring Triple Crown in Newcomer Award
source : naver
[Naver] Doh Kyungsoo, hitting All-Kill for newcomer in music x broadcasting x movie categories
- Article talks about Kyungsoo winning rookie award in music category (along with EXO), as well as winning newcomer award in drama & movie categories through his acting activity, and hence hitting the ‘triple crown’ in newcomer awards.
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1. [+825,  -9] He’s at the top as a singer & an acting-dol !!! He’s cool, & did a good job. I’m always looking forward to see Doh Kyungsoo walking his bright future both as a singer & an actor, and that he’ll become even more successful & happier  ㅎㅎ Let’s walk down only on the flowery paths
2. [+770,  -5]   He’s just so awesome.. is there any other person like this.. I’m supporting you~ “Room 7″ was really good
3. [+749,  -5]  Woah, turns out EXO D.O. is good at everything... I’m looking forward to his next project as well, “With God” and “Swing Kids” ~~
4. [+679,  -5] D.O. is cool! Next, I hope he’ll always put his best foot forward as he’s going steady step by step. Fighting, D.O. and Doh Kyungsoo!!! 
5. [+589,  -4] Oppa, you have to take care of your health too, okay??
6. [+96,  -2] He has the gaze of a good actor. His voice is also cool
7. [+95,  -2] Actor Doh, congratulation for scoring an all-kill with the newcomer award ^^
8. [+86,  -2] He’s shining in EXO and also in his acting activity. Both D.O. and Doh Kyungsoo are cool and lovely
9. [+71,  -1] It’s really goosebump-inducing that Doh Kyungsoo is good at singing and acting at the same time. I think it’s great that he always shows different looks in his every works. I’m supporting him
10. [+67,  0] I’m rooting for Doh Kyungsoo’s future.
11. [+62,  0] I watched his works, from “Hyung” to “Room 7″, since he acted well I could enjoy the movies & immerse myself into them. He has a nice image and first of all he’s also good looking. Hope Doh Kyungsoo-ssi will continue doing great works in the future, I’m always cheering him up.
12. [+64,  -1] D.O. is really amazing isn’t he...
13. [+60,  0] He’s such a jack of all trades, there’s nothing that he can’t do.. And he’s always humble..
14. [+36,  0] I’ve also came to like Doh Kyungsoo since my daughter is an EXO’s fan. Good at singing and acting too, seriously there’s nothing that he can’t do. Congratulation on winning newcomer award in Blue Dragon Awards. I watched all the movies he participated in. At first my daughter always watched the movie with me, but lately that she’s always watching it with her friends, I’m a little disappointed ㅎ
15. [+31,  0] I thought of him as a calm sea. He’s like a kind of person who actually carries a huge wave with him. His impression was like, seemed to be naive-looking & not having much skills, but once he acts, he’s looking so cool with his boldness and his convincing performance. His vocal tone & intonation are attractive too. I’ll be supporting his future activities both as an actor & an EXO member.
16. [+31,  0]  He’s really awesome. While he stays on top as a singer, even in his first drama ever he already received praises, and is now being recognized for his consistent works in cinema. Up until now, is there any other celebrity who’s scoring newcomer awards in music, drama, and movie, all these categories?
17. [+30,  0] He’s actually hitting triple crown in newcomer awards ㅜㅜ so cool !!!!
18. [+27,  0] Since I first knew him from the drama “It’s Okay, That’s Love”, I’m more familiar with the name “Doh Kyungsoo” than “D.O.”.. I knew who EXO was, but had no idea about the members. After that, I was interested to watch them when they came out, & turned out even on the stage D.O. was so cool as well. His voice that sounds cool when he acts also shines when he sings. It’s really awesome that he digests the busy schedules, producing great outcomes both as a singer and an actor. Although I feel a little bad that he has to juggle between both activities, it’s good to know that he seems to enjoy it despite everything.
19. [+26,  0] I’m so thankful and proud that you always keep this word, “I’ll show you a better look of me through more effort.” Congratulation on winning the newcomer awards. I’ll always be supporting you.
20. [+26,  0]   Doh Kyungsoo, and EXO D.O., always fighting! Your enthusiasm, your effort, and your potential, I’m supporting it all
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source : pann
[Pann] Woah D.O. is hitting Triple Crown in newcomer awards
1. Newcomer award for singer (with EXO) :
- 19th Korean Entertainment Arts Awards, Rookie award
- 14th MAMA, New Asian Artist award
- 27th Goldendisk Awards, Rookie award
- 22th Seoul Music Award, Rookie award
2. Newcomer award for drama category :
- 3th Daejeon Drama Festival, Male Newcomer award (through drama ”It’s Okay, That’s Love”)
3.  Newcomer award for movie category :
- 38th Blue Dragon Awards, Male Newcomer award (through movie “Hyung”)
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Be awarded with ‘Newcomer Award’ is never easy. Being able to be active in all wheather, from music, drama, up to movie, indicates that Doh Kyungsoo has grasped the ‘Triple Crown in Newcomer Award’
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After spending two days of Lunar New Year holiday with his parents, Doh Kyungsoo will leave to America with EXO on the 9th to start the North American tour. Although he’s receiving attention with his acting, EXO is still the most important to him.
“If i were told to choose between acting or singing, then it’s definitely EXO. My priority is to not trouble the members. If my acting activity brings harm to EXO, I will give it up without hesitation.”
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A : If (an opportunity to work in) a movie with the revenant’s director and a tour take place at the same time?
KS: I will do the tour. EXO is my root. It’s because EXO exists that I can be here too. EXO is a team life. Since I’m really aware of the inconvenience resulted when even just one person is not present, that I don’t want to trouble them. I don’t leave out music activities, but I’m sorry that I miss minor activities.
1. [+50,  -2] I really love how Kyungsoo always works hard both as a singer & an actor.
2. [+50,  -4] Let’s do everything that our Kyungsoo want to do ㅠㅠ Truly congrats for the newcomer awards. A smooth journey with your road as a singer & also as an actor!
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3. [+43,  -1]  I acknowledge that he’s good in acting! Still can’t forget his acting in drama “It’s Okay, That’s Love”. Seems like he’ll continue showcasing better performance
4. [+19,  0] Among Kyungsoo’s works, I like IOTL the best. Each characters themselves are nice, and I can’t forget the sadness within Han Kangwoo’s peculiar languor ㅠㅠㅜㅜㅠㅠ
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5.  [+15,  -1] I think he’s the best one among male acting-dol for real. If there’s something similar between him and Im Siwan, I say it’s in their very deep gaze?
6. [+14,  0] I think I rewind the scene where he said “Now, I can’t come out anymore?” for dozens of time ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ his acting is so good
7. [+13,  -1]  I watched “It’s Okay, That’s Love” for Jo Insung, but there was a cute actor that acted really well so I looked him up, & turned out he’s in EXO... I just naturally thought he was a young rookie actor. I didn’t really favor acting-dol but seeing D.O. got me thinking again. This week I went to watch room 7, & now I’m also anticipating With God! He’s already successful but I wish he’ll flourish even more
8. [+13,  0] I recognize his acting skill
9. [+11,  0] It’s so nice when he introduce himself as EXO D.O. and Doh Kyungsoo
10. [+10,  0] Until now I can not forget D.O. acting as psycopath in “I Remember You”...... His acting is freaking good and he’s freaking handsome too, f*ck...
11. [+9,  -1] For real, Kyungsoo sings dances and acts well, he is handsome, & going with what the people around him say about him, he’s such a thoughtful boy with good personality. What does he lack in
12. [+9,  0] I like Doh Kyungsoo since he’s not only so handsome, but also good in acting & singing. Before, he was called ‘D.O.’ often times, but I think he has worked so hard to the point that nowadays he’s also being refered as Doh Kyungsoo a lot
13. [+8,  0]  Doh Kyungsoo is a good singer, a good actor, and now he even won newcomer award in Blue Dragon Awards, the most prestigious movie award ceremony in our country. Winning newcomer award in Blue Dragon is known to be difficult, and yet film makers love him & he receives praises everywhere
14. [+7,  0] His way of thinking is so cool. I think the rest of EXO members also feel reassured.
15. [+7,  0] Kyungsoo is always treated prettily everywhere, his skill is also solid from all sides. And with how much love he receives, will “EXO’s comfy mat” become his nickname ㅠㅠㅠ Kyungsoo-ya, congrats (for the newcomer awards), and thank you for being my singer
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lumalaya · 6 years
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summer films ‘18
hi there! to clarify, this is a log of films i’ve seen this summer, not exactly films set in the summer, so if you’re here for that, i’m sorry?
anyway, here we go!
1. kasal (2018) / dir. ruel s. bayani ♡ 180525 ♡ girl is engaged to the son of cebu’s current mayor who is currently preparing for elections, but her ex comes back and tries to win her back ♡ cliche, i know, but trust me, this movie deals with this plotline in a very interesting way ♡ and come on, it’s bea alonzo and paulo avelino, two icons 2. high school musical (2006) / dir. kenny ortega ♡ 180614 ♡ iconic, i love troy bolton, thanks for reminding me ♡ i know sharpay isn’t that bad but she’s still a bully lol ♡ the choreography for when there was me and you got me dying i love it ♡  fave song: stick to the status quo 3. high school musical 2 (2007) / dir. kenny ortega ♡ 180622 ♡ my least favorite in the trilogy ♡ there was so much unnecessary drama they should’ve cut troy some slack ♡ i hate chad danforth, that’s all ♡ fave song: you are the music in me 4. high school musical 3: senior year (2008) / dir. kenny ortega ♡ 180622 ♡ my favorite in the trilogy! ♡ i still hate chad tho lol but i love taylor so much she’s my favorite character! ♡ i wish they elaborated more on gabriella though, because i like to imagine an alternate ending where she declines stanford and stays in albuquerque for another year which disappoints everyone and puts a strain on her relationship with troy. that would’ve been so interesting! ♡ fave song: i love all of them, but if i had to choose, the boys are back 5. kimmy dora 2: the temple of kiyeme (2009) / dir. joyce bernal ♡ 180626 ♡ the only reason i watched this was because i had a terrible pimple on my forehead and it reminded me of some horror movie then i realized it was this so i had to look for the particular scene ♡ the movie was really bad, as expected ♡ but i absolutely love eugene domingo!! she’s so talented i really admire her as an actress
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6. before sunrise (1995) / dir. richard linklater ♡ 180630 ♡ this was the day my internet ultimately stopped working (for four days, if i may add) so i thought hey why not start that movie marathon i’ve been meaning to do ♡ i was excited to watch this because it’s a known pop culture reference, and also because it’s seulgi’s favorite movie ♡ it’s unique! it’s not easy to film a story that revolves around two people who’ve just met walking around in a city neither of them knows ♡ i liked this movie but it wasn’t that spectacular or anything, i think it lacks emotion and excitement ♡ but please, do not get off a train in europe with someone you’ve just met that is dangerous 
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7. before sunset (2004) / dir. richard linklater ♡ 180630 ♡  i knew nothing about this so i was actually surprised to see the same actors nine years after before sunrise’s release ♡ i like this better than the first one! céline shows the emotions i was looking for ♡ it’s much simpler and easier to follow because it really is just them walking around and talking to continue the story because of the short amount of time they have together 
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8. before midnight (2013) / dir. richard linklater ♡ 180630 ♡ this movie is the reason i watched the series! it was mentioned in it’s okay, that’s love so i thought i needed to watch this, and honestly, it helped me understand the characters from iotl a bit better! ♡ it ended up being my favorite film of the three ♡ it’s more complex than the first two because it introduces more characters and is set in more locations ♡ after years of watching and reading romcoms, this made me believe in love 
9. gone girl (2014) / dir. david fincher ♡ 180701 ♡ i knew nothing about this film except that there was a girl and she was missing and the plot is unexpected? ♡ i won’t say much on this because it’s amazing when you watch it without knowing anything ♡ but it is CRAZY it hecked me up so much wow ♡ will try reading the book when i can!! 10. the grand budapest hotel (2014) / dir. wes anderson ♡ 180701 ♡ my first wes anderson film (finally) ♡ bored me at first because sadly, i can’t relate to rich european men who live in hotels and have sex with elderly women ♡ but it is so much more than that! it’s funny and deals with loyalty, the war, and crap immigrants go through ♡ yes, the cinematography is unique and beautiful, but i couldn’t appreciate it much from years of seeing wes anderson stills on my social media ♡ i went into this without knowing anything about it, but i wish i’d watched the trailer beforehand because that would’ve helped me appreciate it more 11. the fault in our stars (2014) / dir. josh boone ♡ 180702 ♡ i was bored and looking through my sister’s hard drive and i thought hey why not watch sad western teen books-turned-movies i used to glorify years ago ♡ it was alright but knowing every line, song, facial expression that would come next made it worse ♡ john green’s cameo is so awkward it’s almost funny ♡ i hope i never meet an augustus waters in my life 12. if i stay (2014) / dir. r.j. cutler ♡ 180703 ♡ part 2 of sad western teen books-turned-movies i used to glorify ♡ the story is pretty good but the film itself isn’t as good as i remembered ♡ i’m still so in love with jamie blackley after four years he’s so handsome and his voice is beautiful ♡ chloe moretz’s acting is really awkward though it’s almost painful to watch ♡ it made me want to reread the sequel where she went though! 13. she’s dating the gangster (2014) / dir. cathy garcia-molina ♡ 180705 ♡ i started this with an open mind and some expectations because although i hated on it for no reason years ago, i wanted to give it a chance ♡ but i’m sorry it really is bad ♡ kenji delos reyes is manipulative and selfish i hope i never meet a guy like him 14. grave of the fireflies (1988) / dir. isao takahata ♡ 180706 ♡ two siblings in the middle of a war ♡ watched this because a friend wanted to rabbit with me! ♡ i haven’t seen a ghibli film in a while so this was refreshing ♡ really sad though :( 15. 10 things i hate about you (1999) / dir. gil hunger ♡ 180706 ♡ guy is paid to date girl lol ♡ julia stiles is so beautiful :( i love her ♡ pretty funny actually! ♡ also watched this because friends wanted to rabbit with me :> 16. i’m drunk, i love you (2017) / dir. jp habac ♡ 180707 ♡ i finally, finally watched this ♡ not gonna lie it disappointed me? so many people loved it but for me it was eh ♡ paulo avelino’s character was pretty lacking for me, i wish they’d elaborated more on him ♡ but i liked the group dynamic because they’re not the wholesome, fake happy kind of friends, seeing them interact made me feel like they’re people i really know in real life (which made me miss my own friends) ♡ even jasmine’s character felt real because she’s probably someone i’d know HAHA ♡ fun fact: i’ve listened to the song lloydy long before watching this because i mean? a song about john lloyd? sign me up 17. that thing called tadhana (2014) / dir. antoinette jadaone ♡ 180708 ♡ another film i finally watched after multiple pop culture references ♡ i actually kinda liked it! it literally has a spiel about john lloyd of course i do but it gets better when the main characters become comfortable with each other ♡ i find it interesting that the director also directed love you to the stars and back which is another film that revolves around two people, both dealing with stuff, who’d just met and decide to go on a journey together ♡ the characters also feel pretty realistic/relatable once you get to know them 18. the spectacular now (2013) / dir. james ponsoldt ♡ 180709 ♡ part 3 of sad western teen books-turned-movies i used to glorify ♡ the only reason i rewatched this was because it was the shortest of the films i had at the time and i needed something to pass the time while loading episodes of svt club ♡ i mean it’s okay? not bad not good and i don’t even like miles teller ♡ shailene woodley perfectly plays the part of the awkward oblivious girl (and that’s not a compliment) 19. the breakup playlist (2015) / dir. dan villegas ♡ 180716 ♡ this film was so refreshing to watch?? sarah portrayed a youthful musician just starting out so so well i love her so much what a great first sarah g movie for me ♡ piolo made me fall in love with him and later on hate him, as he should ♡ i love opm kaya seeing the gig scene, some actual artists like ebe dancel, and looots of covers of songs like wag na wag mong sasabihin by kitchie nadal and with a smile by eraserheads ♡ i understand now why people love paano bang magmahal HAHAHA 20. barcelona: a love untold (2016) / dir. olivia lamasan ♡ 180717 ♡ alright so remember how i absolutely hated sdtg? ♡ I LOVED THIS FILM SO. MUCH. ♡ kathniel matured a lot in two years and i think they were perfect for this!! they really showed certain struggles of young adults and did not disappoint ♡ it also shows filipino values for family, utang ng loob, ofw struggles, etc ♡ and of course the cinematography is beautiful HUHU i mean it’s barcelona!! 21. my annoying brother (2016) / dir. kwon soo-kyung ♡ 180721 ♡ honestly took me a bit to get into it  ♡ i expected it to be funny and although it did make me laugh a lot why were there tears :((( ♡ kyungsoo is so, so, so talented i admire him so much as an actor now ♡ really hits you in the feels! a really beautiful story about two brothers 22. so i married an anti-fan (2016) / dir. kim jae-young ♡ 180724 ♡ meh ♡ it took some getting used to seeing chanyeol being all snobbish and cool instead of his usual loud happy self ♡ of course it’s overdramatic for the comedy, but the hate-turned-love isn’t even that good lol it’s just unreasonable but whatever ♡ the lead girl reminds me of arci munoz HAHA 23. wonder (2017) / dir. stephen chbosky ♡ 180725 ♡ we watched this during my summer program and i was actually pretty excited because i remember loving the book! ♡ this honestly teaches you a lot not even just from the perspective of children but also as teenagers, parents, friends, etc ♡ i thoroughly enjoyed it!
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samwpmarleau · 7 years
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One thing that I don't get in ASOIAF is the fandom believe Rhaegar would make a great king, but what is exactly his accomplishments beside ToH and played harp?
You’re right in saying that his list of hard accomplishments is rather small. We know of only three tourneys that he entered (though he’s said to have been a consummate jouster, so presumably he did enter others), one of which he lost, one of which took him 12 rounds to win, and all three of which had final matches against members of the Kingsguard, who are known to more or less throw said matches to ensure they don’t injure their future sovereign.
(No one can say he wasn’t in a league of his own when it comes to moping, though. The guy spent extended periods of time alone at haunted Summerhall, the place most of his family died horrifically in a fire, in order to brood and write depressing songs, I mean really.)
However. You have to consider his image.
Until he took off with Lyanna, he was the absolute perfect prince. He was scholarly, which pleased the maesters, but also martial, which pleased the lords. He was handsome beyond measure, he sang songs so affecting they made wolf-blooded Lyanna cry, he wasn’t a womanizer nor did he solicit prostitutes, he was allegedly courting lords to depose his father, he did his duty by his wife and not only had a Targaryen-looking son but also a daughter that could be used for marriage alliances, he did the smart and respectful thing by moving his household to Dragonstone instead of staying in King’s Landing, etc. etc. Even the debacle at Harrenhal didn’t irreparably damage public perception.
Without the benefit of hindsight, well, there was hardly a single thing wrong with him. Maybe a little dreary, but then, Jaehaerys I didn’t exactly sound like he was the life of the party either and he’s remembered as the best king Westeros ever had.
Nearly two decades after civil war ripped the realm apart, singers continue to frame Rhaegar’s liaison with Lyanna as a tale of star-crossed lovers, a tragic romance, two people that just wanted to run away together. Only Robert is outwardly vitriolic, a vitriol that is referred to as a “madness” in him and thus more or less undermined.
All of that is, I believe, why many people in the fandom view Rhaegar so positively, because almost all of Westeros does. He’s the King That Could Have Been. Truthfully, I was of that same mind until a little over a year ago when I started analyzing it all, so I can hardly blame fans who take what the story says at face value since I used to do it myself.
But the problem is that you can’t just take things at face value and say Rhaegar would have been the best ruler since Jaehaerys, because he would not have been. He would have been closer to Aerys I, who incidentally was also obsessed with arcane matters and prophecy to the point of neglecting the realm (though Rhaegar did at least consummate his marriage and have children, which is more than Aerys did with poor Aelinor Penrose).
Best case scenario is if the Rebellion doesn’t happen and Aerys is deposed peacefully, because then Rhaegar is operating under almost unanimous goodwill (even Tywin may be brought back in the fold provided Rhaegar agrees to marry Cersei to Viserys or something). But even then, there’s still the issue of Elia not being able to have another child after Aegon, because no matter what, Rhaegar wants his third head and fast. If he doesn’t opt to kill his wife in childbirth, presumably he decides to go after Lyanna as in the original timeline. In which case even if it doesn’t come to war, he’s still massively pissing off the Starks, Baratheons, Martells, and his own mother. Not to mention that having a child with Lyanna means a bastard, likely one he would then legitimize, and let’s just say the last time there was a Targaryen bastard running around, it didn’t end well. So he’s got that to contend with, too.
But let’s say he manages to smooth things over enough to keep the country going. Barring an extreme personality shift, now that he has his three heads (though I’m not sure how he’d address Jon being, well, Jon, and not his Visenya), he’d be more focused than ever on the Long Night. He’d probably want to bolster the Night’s Watch forces, stockpile food and weapons, train not only his sons for combat but Rhaenys as well, try to obtain and hatch dragon eggs, and plan not for the immediate future but for 17 or so years down the line when the Others come. As we saw IOTL, the current status of the realm is secondary in his mind, because what does the status of the treasury matter if the Long Night isn’t prepared for?
Of course, maybe he’s a better juggler than anyone gives him credit for and he oversees the realm well and plans for the future, but I sincerely doubt it. Based on what we know, he is far more like the aforementioned Aerys I or Baelor the Blessed than, say, Daeron II. Which is something I think the people of Westeros would come to realize quite quickly. Whether Rhaegar’s madness mindset becomes so much of an issue that the people end up wanting him deposed, I don’t know. I don’t think it would get that bad, considering not even Aegon IV was kicked off the throne, but it’s a possibility–if, for instance, his son Aegon grew up in the vein of avuncular ancestor Baelor Breakspear.
I should also point out that this AU means Dany will have never been born, which throws a wrench in things, not that Rhaegar knew it.
And if the Rebellion does happen, well, Rhaegar’s exponentially more fucked. Of those who supported the crown, only the Tyrells were really of note (support that was half-assed to begin with). While Aerys was the one who escalated the situation, there wouldn’t have been a situation to escalate if Rhaegar hadn’t done what he did, and it’s not like Rhaegar would even really be able to reward the loyalists with marriage in the way Robert did since he was still married to Elia and had three kids. People may have considered him better than Aerys, but Rhaegar’s shine would have most assuredly worn off for them. At which point, Rhaegar not only has to keep the realm stable, but stabilize it to begin with. That means concessions up the wazoo and political appointments, plus things like needing to replace the dead Kingsguard and getting rid of all the wildfire beneath King’s Landing. After that, it’s the same as in the non-Rebellion scenario. He’s still going to be much more focused on the Long Night than he is on matters of state, which will put off almost everyone, especially since no one would believe him about the Others.
So no, as far as I’m concerned Rhaegar would not have made a good king, but I can see where fans get the notion that he would (looking at you, Barristan). He would have been better than his father in many respects but worse in others, and his laser focus on something in the distant future that people not Rhaegar, Aemon, or Bloodraven think is a big fat fairy tale would land him at best in disfavor and at worst deposed.
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cckaisoo · 7 years
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Mini Kadi Shippers/Supporters’ Survey Result
I would like to thank everyone for taking their time to respond to this survey. Your contribution is much appreciated. Anyway, this might sound a bit formal. But as long as I deliver the message, aite?
This is a mini kd shippers/supporters survey. I asked a question and collected responses which were consisted of a statement(s). I managed to collect a total of 99 responses in a span of 10 days.
Question:  i have an honest question. i’m really curious. who re u guys that ship/support kd? ks stans, ji stans, ex0-l, non-ex0-l, not even into kpop?
Next, I’ve analyzed the data using a simple coding method (use in a qualitative study). I’ve extracted a few important points from the data and divided it into two main categories - Group Stan & Bias. The subcategories were determined based on the amount of the same response
Group Stan - (1) EX0.L, (2) Non-EX0.L and (3) Not Stated Bias - (1) Jong.in, (2) Kyung.soo, (3) Jong.in & Kyung.soo and (4) Others
The unit used in the result is counted as per response [x/99].
1st Category: Group Stan
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I think the highlight of this result is the Non EX0.L. Altho it's not many of them but I find it interesting that Non EX0.L take an interest in kd. These were some responses from the Non EX0.L.
º im not ex0.l anymore and if it weren't for kd i wouldn't be here (in the fandom) º just kai.soo-l. im not into kpop or ex.o anymore... i just exist here now just for kai.soo. tho i still go to ex.o concerts but just to see kai.soo. º I'm not a EX.O fan but I believe Kai.soo are dating  º not really an ex0.l i literally only went to ex0.rdium to see them both c:  º ...I'm a bt.s stan irl  º Im an ar.my but i've been shipping kai.soo almost since the beginning :) they are The only ship that I actually believe is real
The ‘Not Stated’ subcategory is self-explanatory. I believe it doesn’t affect the result that much.
2nd Category: Bias
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Ks bias and ji & ks bias share the 1st spot on the chart with a total of 33 responses, respectively. I find it quite shocking. I expected that there would be more of ks bias since I’ve only heard many kd shippers are ks bias.
It is expected from my pov that there aren’t many kd shippers that biased ji, which I also find it interesting. Perhaps this has anything to do with his popularity among ifandom? Or they are more of them that ship other otp like se.kai etc? Mybe his past dating scandal affected stans in some way? //shrug.
The least frequent answers fell under ‘Others’; consisted of those who doesn't bias ji and ks, bias all ex0 and not stated specifically.
Conclusion
As per stated in the title, the result represent kai.soo shippers and supporters. This is not a proper survey since the data are varied and I’ve only managed to extract few points when they could have been more. So take this survey as it is~ Anyway, it was a fun mini survey and I also had fun analyzing the data! Click ‘Keep reading’ to check out all of the responses.
That’s all for now. Thank you and have a nice day :)
These are the raw data. So it is unorganized. Thank you for the participation!
Ks stan ji stan ex0l
ex0l
I love Jong.in and KaiSo0. And EX0. ❤ my one and only bias, ship and group.
Ks stan, ji stan and ex0 l
ji stan ks stan ex0l
ks stan, semi ji stan
Ks-ji stan and ex0 l
ex0-l, ksoo stan (but i love them all wtd)
Ex0 l def, soo stan altho jong.in is close 2nd
Kyungso0 stan and EX0-L definitely and semi Jong.in stan <3
EX0-L, Ksoo biased
ksoo stan
I am an ex0-l but not a kyungso0 stan nor a jong.in one (my biases are baek and jongdae)
but my sister, who supports kaiso0 too with all her heart, is a jong.in stan !
i noticed ji first because of dance, then i realised ji comes with ks as a package, so i started noticing kd and then i believed kd is real so im a supporter instead of a shipper. im not an ex0L but i do appreciate all members of ex0 because i genuinely think they each have something special. but i dont really follow the activities much. some of those i chat with thinks im in transition from a non ex0L to an ex0L. i dont ship any other pairings but i like se.kai which i think are bros. not jagi bros. but maknae dance bros. i dont know i can fit into ur data though but here is all my information.
I saw your post haha... I'm an ex0l and a Kyungso0 stan that is also becoming a Jong.in stan... So a kaiso0 stan. I can't choose only one of them. They come together haha.
EX0-L, JI stan, KS, stan, stan the group as a whole.
I dont consider myself an ex0*l, thou i buy their albuns, if i like a mv a lot, i´ll watch over /over again. Im just not into fandom culture, i find it toxic, with all the fanwars inside and out. I love kd, ji and ks the same and more than ex0 as a whole, I only follow blogs that are kd, ji and ks centric, but idc much about their acting jobs. So im not sure in what place im, but in a way it makes sense to me. lol!
I'm ks stan, I'm into kd because ks (and their love;;), I'm into e x o because kd.
im not ex0l anymore and if it weren't for kd i wouldn't be here (in the fandom)
i'm a ji and ks stan combined. i can't have one without the other. i make sure to check out whats going on with the both of them. but sometimes i do feel like i go more crazy over ji. i'm a capricorn and i have that same introvert personality, which is one of the reason why i love them both so much. i'm a ji stan ks stan and a kaiso0 stan.
im a ksoo stan and i ship kd so very much !! they make me so happy and are my motivation in life tbh _ノ乙(、ン、)_ <3
kaiso0 biased, ex0-l
I'm a kyungso0 and jong.in stan, but kyungso0 is my ultimate bias. EX0-L.
Am a proud ks stan \(⊙♡⊙)/
i'm an ex0-l and a kyungso0 stan~
KD support
Kyung Soo stan
She's jong.in fan n even before i talked to her about kadi, she already knew theres something different about them (she did some digging on her own). I swear i didnt plant any idea on her haha
Ex0-L, 100% Kaiso0 shipper, Jong.in Stan, Kyungso0 Stan, all of EX0 Stan especially C.hen and Xiu.min because they seem to get neglected sometimes
D.o stan kai bais wrecker ex0l
I starded as a Jong.in stan then thanks to that I discovered kaiso0 and it made me take interest in ex0.Now I'm a kaiso0 supporter,ksoo stan,Jong.in ultimated biased and ex0-l :D
Ex0-l, Ji is my ub but Ks is in my top 3 members.
Ex0-l, ksoo stan but ji is very close.
just kai.soo-l. im not into kpop or ex0 anymore... i just exist here now just for kai.soo. tho i still go to ex0 concerts but just to see kaiso0. i still listen to ex0 songs but just a few chosen ones that i like.
Ex0l ks stan ji stan
ex0-l, ksoo stan !! ♡
Ex0l, jong.in and kyungso0 stan(i cant choose, both are my ultimate biases)😊
i saw jong.in in nylon kor~~ he made me stan ex0 then i discovered kadi... so im a jong.in stan kadi "shipper" (i think they r real, but then im also scared of projecting something that may not b there. i think i saw somewhere that its usually ji fans that r the worst "kadi shippers" or w/e lol anywaysss let me know what ur results r from the poll!!)
Am a proud ks stan \(⊙♡⊙)/
Not even into kpop but because of kaiso0, started listening to ex0 songs
ex0l & ksoo stan
Multi-fandom here! I stan both but mostly kyungso0 and lowkey yi.xing because he keeps making me swerve
For survey, I'm not a EX0 fan but I believe Kaiso0 are dating. If I have to choose, my favorite member is Baek.hyun and I like a couple of songs like Growl and Call Me Baby. I started thinking they're dating after I saw them at a concert a friend brought me to accompany her. They did fanservice with the rest but the way they acted towards each other was so different from what I know of fanservice. When I got home I searched them up. And Ka!'s dating scandal last year made me believe in them more.
Kyungso0 stan and i love jong.in and kaiso0 too
Kyungso0 stan. And became Jong.in stan because when you love ksoo you should love jong.in too
cannot decide because both of them came as a complimentary set agjsgsjgsjgs not really an ex0-l i literally only went to ex0rdium to see them both c:
ex0l. ksoo stan, ji stan, kai.soo shipper, um what else
ks and ji stand but i dont really follow ex0
An ex0-l OT9 stan♡
#kpop Stan since 2010#ks Stan#since 2012 *starts crying*
EX0-L, Ksoo biased
hi! im a ksoo stan that ships kd
I stan both. I only stan ex0. Forever an ex0l. Kaiso0 is real. 🐻💜🐧
was a jong.in stan now a kadi stan, i started to be a real/invested ex0l only after supporting their relationship
I'm a ksoo stans and kai comes in second and together they are THE power couple of my life
Kd supporter , Xiu.min biased/Ex0-l
jognog is my bias first. ksoo comes in later cause kaiso0.
Non-ex0-l
Mainly a ji stan but I love ks just as much. I adore kaiso0. I'm an Ex0-L but I don't listen to any other kpop.
ex0-l and kaiso0 shipper
I'm a jong.in Stan but ksoo cuteness never make me calm. ex0-l
ks stan, ji stan, ex0-l!!
EX0-L JONG.IN STAN
Started with overdose as a jong.in stan, I feel ashamed but I didn't even notice kyungso0 until much later. Then now I am a proud jongsoo supporter T_T
A proud ex0l and ji stan c:
Kyungso0 biased EX0-L. Love all members, including Jong.in. Kaiso0 is the only EX0 "ship" I take seriously.
for the kai.soo thing !! i wouldnt call myself ex0 l but i like ex0, jong.in stan (i love kyung.soo too. i only care about kai.soo basically anyway)
I am an ex0 & ji stan since their debut, they are only idol pairing I believe 100%, from watching ji closely over the years!
ks is my bias in ex0 but I'm a bt$ stan irl... ex0 is in my top 5 fav groups but I'm mostly with them for ks
before watching iotl i wasn't into kpop,ex0 is the first and only kr band i stan,cuz of actor do ks,ks is my bias,ji is my 2nd bias sometimes i wonder if ji is my bias now,i don't like all ex0 members but i consider my self an ex0-l,i listen to all their songs but i only watch the shows if ks or ji is in them, i'm only interested in ks and ji solo works not the others i've never watch other members movies,dramas,shows or v apps,their happiness is all that matters to me even though i'm muslim 1 i'm muslim and being gay is wrong according to my religious beliefs but looking at them all i see is love,no one around me knows about my love for them,they are my guilty pleasure 2
I'm a kyung.soo stan!
I am definitely a kai.soo supporter T_T Always! 100% jong.in stan and 100% kyung.soo stan! I don't know what is the criteria of being an ex0L! I do love their music and watch the variety shows they are in but I never bought an album or went to their concert!!
Kyungso0 is my bias
I'm ks stan, ex0-l, and start liking ji bcs if kd ;)
Se.hun fans, broken hearted kriso0 shipper
I'm Min.seok biased but I love couples, I started loving kd a couple months after I started liking ex0 and xiu.han. Kd is so cute and so real! But I'm lowkey a ji and ks stan...
so i stan both ji and ks i find them really talented and i like ex0 in general . I don't really stan other groups but i appreciate kpop a lot.
To your question, I ship kd and i'm ex0-l and Jong.in stan, but i got into EX0 bc of Kyungso0, i felt in love with him the first time i saw him <3 so basically a ksoo stan too(? im not sure :_
ex0-l since predebut era. originally a ksoo stan now both kd are my babies TvT
I’m a Kyungso0 and Jong.in stan ☺ Baek.hyun’s my bias wrecker though
I'm Kyungso0 stan followed by Jong.in. and I only ship Kaiso0
both are my biases but kji is my ult💕 ex0-l for lyf
I started shipping kai.soo back in 2013 when I was a casual ex0.l and didn't have a bias. Now my bias is jong.in :)
Ex0-l, my ult is kyung.soo, and jong.in follows!
ex0-l yi.xing stan HOLLA HOLLA love kaiso0. stan ksoo over jong.in just a lil bit.
EX0-L, I love all EX0 members! Baek.Hyun is my bias! <3
I'm a Ji Stan but I love both boys with all my heart
I'm a jong.in stan that was exclusively a jong.in stan before I cared abt or knew any other members. and then kaiso0, like immediately afer
Ksoo stan
ksoo and jgnog stan :^))))
Ex0-l - stanning both
I love all of ex0 members, but I'm Jong.in biased. I do support (believe in) KD since I entered the fandom 2 and a half years ago ^^
ksoo and nini stan
Im an arm.y but i've been shipping kaiso0 almost since the beginning :) they are The only ship that I actually believe is real
ji & ks stan, but i knew about and supported KD before i entered the fandom
Kyungso0 Stan ❤❤
I'm not an ex0-l but i like ex0.. and i recognise love when i see it
Yi.xing stan Kai.soo shipper!
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Can you describe ks? Like how you see him (his look and personality)?
Alright, so this is purely my opinion and I might be am biased. 
When it comes to his looks I think Ksoo is absolutely beautiful (stating simple facts). His face is (imo) different from other Koreans. I first saw Ksoo act in IOTL  (I wasn’t into kpop before but I was into kdramas so after watching many kdramas I could tell that his face was smtg very unique and unlike other Koreans, this doesn’t mean that other Koreans aren’t good looking, alright?) I wasn’t sure if I liked his looks at first but after watching more episodes I remember telling myself “Oh my god, he’s really good-looking”. I cannot even tell what’s more beautiful. His heart-shaped lips (and don’t let me start about his smile), nose, (beautifully) big eyes, or his cheeks? Ksoo’s body is small (thank god he isn’t as skinny as before but he’s now rather healthy looking skinny if you get what I mean?), his waist as well but his thighs and booty… this is whole different cathegory about which if I start talking we’ll never end. Let’s just say he’s perfectly looking. That’s quite accurate, isn’t it? 
When it comes to his personality I know many ppl describe him as “stoic” and “reserved” and I don’t think that’s all he is. Because yes, there are moments when he is just quiet and doesn’t say anything until needed but what I do notice the most and what is the most important for me is how playful and precious and smiley and clingy he can be. And what pains me is how people tend to ignore this side of him. I think that this “stoic” Ksoo is to some point him but it’s mostly because he tries to not show so much of his true self to public (which is very wise). He is caring, kind, well-mannered and very talented. Everytime someone describes him they always mention how he takes care of others and how he puts other people first. To be perfectly honest, I kind of suspect him of being an angel…
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kdramanetwork · 7 years
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ok so after FMW & MSP episodes this week I really wanted to ask is it a new thing to see couples have the sex? Because I've been an avid kdrama watcher since BOF was still airing [not that that's a super long time]and it's super refreshing to see. I can only think of witch's romance/F2LU as another example. Have I just been in the wrong genre?! I need more of it. MORE
You’re right, sex in kdramas is kind of rare and taboo. The only dramas that I’ve seen and where the couple had sex were Personal Taste, Heart to Heart and Healer (not sure about that last one, maybe it’s my dirty mind lmao). Recently, there also was My Secret Romance ! I love seeing that evolution too!! I mean, the kisses in kdramas used to be very chaste. It wasn’t even real kisses, it was just lips against lips. Around 2013 (idk that’s how I feel but maybe I am wrong? tell me your opinion guys!), kisses started to become less fake. I guess it’s natural that kdramas slowly begin to include sex in their couple’s life!
- Cam
tbh I’m a slut for romance and I was high key excited for bot FMW and SP this week lmao but not necessarily for the sake of them having sex scenes??? it’s must just the fact of seeing the actors being able to develop the chemistry between them and that it also shows that sex in kdramas is slowly ceasing to be considered taboo (I think my favorite example of this evolution is Kang Ho Kyung in Ho Goo’s love)
Also something I loved is that even when sex was portrayed in both dramas, it wasn’t done in a way where you needed to watch for five minutes both characters taking their clothes off and like... the whole process of it lmao, which is something that I HATE because dude I don’t need to see five minutes of complete nudity that have no place in the actual plot (yes Game of Thrones I’m talking to you). At least in the dramas I’ve seen with actual sex scenes and not just implied sex (the ones I remember rn are SP, IOTL, MSR and oh my venus) they have been brief cute moments where at the end you just want to scream how cute they are and how much chemistry they have, literally that’s all I could ask, no need to turn a drama into a porn like some tv shows do lmao (yes GoT I’m talking about you again)
-Val
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When your Admins get a chance to talk...
**Spoiler Alert: Please do not read if you haven't seen Missing9 Episode's 13 + 14**
Aqua:This is totally random but I love Lee Kwang Soo so much!!!!
Pisces:Fell in love with him on Running Man and haven't gone back since. He is pure gold.
Pisces:Was so happy to see that he and D.O. bonded after learning about the group and watching IOTL...like D.O. has been so blessed
Aqua:I lowkey had a crush on his character in IOTL
Pisces:He was really endearing in IOTL
Aqua:It's interesting that both D.O. and Baekhyun worked with Sung Dong Il. While D.O. didn't really have interactive scenes with him, Baekhyun had him as a father-in-law
Pisces:I was so happy to see him again in SH! He played his character so well in IOTL! Really good actor. And he's so hilarious!
Aqua:Yo, I'm excited 'I Love Catman' comes out this month
We gotta support the baby
Pisces:Mm apparently they were saying it's delayed? I hope that's not true. I'm ready to see all of Sehunnie's efforts. So exciting
Aqua:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Aqua:And next week the last episodes of 'Missing9' air. They still haven't found Yeol's body. I'm mad they have been thoroughly ignoring his disappearance
Joon Oh seemed to be looking for him when you look at the wall he had in his room but...
Pisces:Mm not sure they're ignoring it or if it's part of the plot. Everyone else who died had a very definitive acknowledgment of their death
Yeollie not so much
Aqua:Like what he's "dead" and forgotten from episode 6 until 16? They not right for that. I mean I get why they fixated on So Hee's death but...have you seen this week's episodes yet? If not I won't say more
Pisces:I did
Aqua:Okay then.
Aqua:I get that her death lead to them uncovering the conspiracy behind Shin Jae Hyun's death. I think that was ultimately the true focus of the show. Find out about the true circumstances surrounding his death and exonerate Seo Joon Oh. All the other side stories take a back seat to that
Pisces:Yea that seems to be how it goes
Aqua:I also find it interesting that Tae Ho can't sing. They used Jae Hyun's vocals for Tae Ho. I don't know if a lot of people caught that
Pisces:I laughed for a very long time. All of his behavior made sense after that
Aqua:Girl, when I tell you I was so over his entitled behind at that point. Like , dude, you had no true purpose in the group besides being cute and you wanna act superior?!?!?!?!
Aqua:No wonder Jae Hyun wanted to leave. Y'all were using the hell outta him and he wasn't getting any credit. Talk about a fucked up trainee period. They all trained and they chose an attractive, non singing dude for a singing group and made you be his voice behind the scenes instead of letting you debut. That's so fucking twisted.
Pisces:Sounds like something that could actually happen. A dig at the industry perhaps?
Aqua:Tae Ho's obsolete ass....
Pisces:That's a really tough role to play. Especially with his name like Yeol's being SO close to his own. Quite a gamble
Aqua:I think they're purposefully "pissing off" EXO fans for a shock factor
Pisces:Mm but Yeol agreed to the script and most likely (unless he wasn't told before each scene that was filmed) what would happen to his character as the
Aqua:They were still changing the script and plot up until they started shooting in November. They scrapped earlier footage they shot in October because it changed. There were stills leaked that are nowhere to be found in any of the episodes; He was originally supposed to be a playboy.
Pisces:Oh ok *but Yeol still agreed to do the script....so...?*
Aqua: You don't remember them talking about his kiss scene and stuff earlier on?
Pisces:Not right now I don't
Aqua:I think we posted some stuff about it in Oct/Nov. Let me go look
Pisces:Ok
Aqua: *sends post to Pisces to view*
Aqua:That's what we posted in October
Pisces: *looks at post* Yep
Pisces:If anything it seems his role changed from being a main character to more of a supporting role. At least he wasn't fired from the project and given a chance to be part of this really interesting story.
Pisces:One of my questions would be how Choi Tae Ho wasn't found out sooner by fans. Guess he was never put on the spot to sing live. Like EXO does for us.
Aqua:Or they always had a vocal track ready. Or maybe they pulled a Singing in the Rain and had Jae Hyun sing into a mic while Tae Ho lip synced
Pisces:That's so terrible
Aqua:I wouldn't put it past them
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I dont think i will ever enjoy a kdrama as much as its okay thats love. I also cant bring myself to really pick up and stay consistent with a drama since another miss oh and Its probably because the themes of current dramas are either too complicated or just not hitting the mark for me idk.
I was in a major kdrama slump ever since Romantic Doctor Teacher Kim ended, so pretty much all of 2017. This drama left a hole in my heart that no other show could fill. I did somehow get over it, but 2017 was very low on good shows, and there wasn’t any worthy romantic drama among them (The Best Hit hardly counts as one). The ones I enjoyed the most were all crime / revenge themed (Secret Forest, Avengers Social Club, Falsify). I’m glad that kdramas still excite me, and it honestly scares me when i find myself indifferent to all ongoing shows. It  makes me feel so empty. Thankfully, I can switch to cdramas and go in a full fairy-tale mode whenever kdramas disappoint me. I’m currently very invested into watching Tribes and Empires, so i’m not bothered that most of ongoing kdramas suck. Also, I think I’m lucky that I avoided watching It’s Okay That’s Love while it aired, and marathoned it later in one sitting. Otherwise, this drama could’ve killed me. It was the show that revived my faith in kdramas. I felt so offended after sitting through Heirs, I took a year long break from kdramas, and IOTL pulled me back in like I never left.
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bonjourtoaya · 7 years
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Hello. I recently became a fan of Kyungsoo after watching Hyung. I want to go back and watch his other stuff. But I was reading some reviews of IOTL and they said that it has a lot of sex and mentions of sex in the drama. Is that true because I'm not really comfortable watching or hearing A LOT about sex (with or without my family)?
Hello ^^ 
there were indeed some innuendos & adult talks in IOTL, plus the main characters weren’t in “innocent, dugeun dugeun” stage but already adults living with problems. i can understand tho if someone could feel uncomfortable towards things like these, but it wasn’t that abundant that you’ll lose focus from the story or feel irritated, at least from my experience.
IOTL was a really good drama that talked about Psychiatric Illness, I don’t think there were a lot of korean dramas with this topic. The acting was great too, plus Kyungsoo’s character was one of the important keys here. 
I think you need to give this drama a chance, it’s also ok to skip some scenes when you think uncomfortable ^^
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