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arecaceae175 · 10 months

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Can you explain the LU drama on the discord is? Because I first saw you listing off peoples names tk block then I saw another person I follow post the most HEINOUS fanart of hw link mpreg that genuinely disturbed me and I didn’t even get a good look at it and what it going onnnnn 😭

(Edit 07/09: read my reblog for updated information)

Hi! I will try to make this as comprehensive as I can.

First of all, I want to say to everyone: don’t send hate to people who are not immediately associated with this situation. I got another ask and I’m not going to share that one because it will spur more hate.

So. Here we go. @/alasse-earfalas made a post and tagged it with the main linked universe tags inviting people to join a “conservative Christian LU discord server” as she called it. That, by itself, is fine! Legend of Zelda does have religious themes so it’s reasonable and valid to want a safe space to discuss those. (I believe the post is still up, but if not I have screenshots for proof)

The issue is that one of their rules states that the server does not support the pride movement. They called the pride movement “predatory and overtly sexual.” Those things are not true. That is the ideology legislators are using to take away queer people’s rights in the United States right now. It is a serious, bigoted viewpoint of the queer community and it is false. It is just hatred toward us because we are not the same as them.

They also started that they wanted a space away from their favorite characters being “queered into oblivion.” It is up to you to choose which posts you interact with (not you, the asker of this question. I mean everyone). Religious posts and pride posts should both have a place in our community.

I made a list of people who interacted with that post and joined the server because I wanted to block them to protect my health and safety. I made the situation worse by not checking the intentions of everyone in the discord. Some people were there to snoop like I was. I take full responsibility for the hurt I caused by my actions, and once again I apologize.

However, I stand by my more recent post of people I chose to block. Bigotry of any kind will not be tolerated on my page.

HOWEVER, that includes Christianity. The server was a Christian server, but that does not mean all Christians in this fandom were involved with it. Queer Christians have been hurt most by this situation and they deserve to feel safe in the LU community, the pride community, and the Christian community.

Please do not send any hate towards other Christian’s on this app if they were not involved in the situation.

This account is a safe space. I apologize if anything I did spurred hate towards anyone involved with this situation.

I am part of the queer community and I stand by that proudly. We are not predatory, we are not overtly sexual. We just want to be proud of who we are.

I don’t know what art you’re talking about. I don’t believe it is associated with this situation at all.

I hope this doesn’t sound hostile. I am not mad at you at all, I promise! I am frustrated with the situation and that people I thought were my friends are so hatefully against my identity.

Once again, there is no space for any kind of bigotry in this fandom. As long as you don’t disrespect anyone else’s existence, you deserve a place here.

#Lu pride drama

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female-malice · 2 years

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you don't have to answer this if this is considered offensive, but i joined this site (this year) thinking i could ally with radfems but then i saw a bunch of them being racist, one of them called me a racial slur on twitter (a radfem user who said it was ok bc when i called her out on her racism, she said "it's misogynistic to not support women"), and the others on here are deeply homophobic. why are so many of them refusing to acknowledge accountability??

Because you're talking about random people using the internet.

I don't subscribe to identity politics. Whether someone calls themselves a radfem, a communist, a socialist, a witch, or a BLM activist, it doesn't mean anything.

I come across countless people who call themselves LGBTQ+ activists, yet they're blatantly proudly homophobic. Just because someone identifies as something doesn't mean they're an official spokesperson for what they wrote in their bio. So whoever I see online, whatever they call themselves, they're just an online person to me.

Overt online racism/homophobia/misogyny looks like people posting hate-speech memes or calling people slurs. Just like the twitter interaction you mentioned. When you come across someone who's overtly racist or homophobic online, you're not going to be able to change them. These people won't take accountability. They may be capable of change when confronted with real life situations that require it. But online, they can curate their internet use to confirm their bigoted world view. So they don't feel they're in the wrong.

Passive online racism/homophobia/misogyny is when someone overlooks experiences and perspectives they're unfamiliar with. When you come across someone who's passively racist or homophobic online, they probably don't realize it. And then it can be constructive to point out a different perspective they didn't think of.

There's a big difference between these two online behaviors and the appropriate response to each. The first one has nothing to do with you. It's simply a weirdo online playing a game with themselves. The second one can be an opportunity for an interesting and positive discussion.

But you probably shouldn't be using twitter to talk to anyone about anything. It's the worst place to have a discussion. Leave twitter to the pros. The only thing it's good for is following journalists, scientists, and public figures. You can use it to keep up with professional feminist writers like Claire Heuchen or Jane Clare Jones. But don't bother with the random people arguing in the replies to their posts. Twitter is a terrible site for talking with random people.

I think tumblr is a better site for talking with anonymous random people. And there are several anonymous writers like sespursongles who've contributed incredible feminist essays through tumblr.

You broadly characterized women who discuss feminism on tumblr as "deeply homophobic." In my experience, I never see examples of overt homophobia when women discuss feminism here. I do see some passive homophobia from straight women. But half the women who post here are not straight. This is a site with a lot of lesbian and bi women. We regularly share our perspectives with straight women who are unfamiliar with them. So homophobia is a regular topic of discussion. Does that mean there's more homophobia on tumblr than anywhere else? Or does it just mean more gay people freely discuss homophobia on tumblr than anywhere else?

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liamdunbagel · 3 years

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Why Invincible is So Relevant

I’ve been wondering why I like Invincible so much. There’s a fun teen-dramedy aspect to it, sure, and it has an Asian lead; but neither of those things are exactly groundbreaking. So why have I taken such a liking to it?

I’ve realized that a show that illustrates the evils of imperialism, while also allowing me to escape the world around me, is exactly what I need right now.

As an American who’s lived under the Trump presidency for four years, constantly hearing “Make America Great Again,” “America is the best place on Earth,” and other nationalist propaganda blaring across every media outlet has taken its toll on me. We’ve been consistently bombarded with images of violence inspired by white supremacy – extra-judicial murders of Black Americans by the police, and attacks against Asian Americans for the so-called “China-virus,” to name a few. Simultaneously, our military continues to murder innocents overseas. We call it the “War Against Terror,” pretending we’re saving innocents in the Middle East from their oppressive regimes. We paint ourselves as saviors, as heroes – but in reality, it’s a misnomer, meant to conceal our country’s never-ending hunger for wealth and power.

For the past four years, our former president made it very clear that being overtly and proudly bigoted is not only acceptable, but inherently American. He perpetrated the belief that America is the greatest nation in the world, and that white men are the greatest people of them all. It’s sickening, and tiring, and the worst part is that so many people believe it. Oh, America – land of the free, home of the brave, a country committed to saving others across the globe from malicious tyrants.

I’m sharing all of this to say that the fact that Invincible – a show about a boy who wants to help save the world, a boy who sweats and stutters while asking a girl out on a date – explores the atrocity that is imperialism, while also allowing me to escape, is much appreciated.

And sure, there’s other shows with similar themes I could watch, but it’s nice to feel the excitement of a new show. There’s something nostalgic about anticipating the next episode, waiting a week to see what the creators have in store.

Also, the stellar cast doesn’t hurt.

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lazywitchling · 4 years

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You know what’s scary? I came to tumblr in the height of fandom blog vs hipster blog, when superwholock was first getting started, before Disney had a choke hold on the entertainment industry, back when it was fun to get really really into tv shows and base our whole personality on what media we consumed. Looking back on it, it was... not a great way to be, but goddamn did it save me.

Not like in a dramatic “saved my life” way, but I mean.

I could go back on my main blog and find my pro-republican posts. I could find my anti-trans posts and my “well okay, gay people can be gay at home, but I don’t want them out where I can see them.” I could find those. They’re back there, years ago in my archive. Because that’s all I knew. That’s all I heard. My community - I mean my real life one, my local area, my friends, my church group, everything around me - is very... monoculture. There aren’t a lot of people around here who don’t look like me, have the same economic background as me, raised in the same beliefs I was... it’s just a whole lot of carbon copies of me. So I thought... “ew, how can someone be gay? That’s gross. They’re going to go to hell.” Because what the hell else would I think? That’s all I knew! And I thought “that boy wants to be a girl? What’s wrong with him? He should see a doctor.” And I thought “why do some people not go to work and the government just pays for them to eat? That’s not right. They shouldn’t be lazy like that.”

And then fuckin’ fandom. It wasn’t fandom directly, but when I got really into a show, I’d follow so many blogs that posted about it. Fan art, discussions, gifs, episode recaps, ask blogs... and inevitably, some of those blogs would drop the occasional political post. Mostly about how we needed marriage equality in the USA. And I thought “well. I don’t agree with that, but their fandom content is good, so I won’t unfollow them.”

It’s how I got exposed to more and more people. People who didn’t think like me. People who didn’t think like my parents. And they weren’t just political posts, sometimes it was just blogging. An artist I like would post about finally getting started on T. He was so happy that he was finally getting T. And I started to think things like “well, she— I mean, he sounds happy. So I’m happy for... him.”

More people. More stories. And I slowly stopped thinking about other people as political issues or religious problems, but as just... people who were trying to live their lives.

It was slow, and it was rocky. I still participated in church discussions that involved phrases like “hate the sin but love the sinner”. It made sense... until college, when I was face to face with people who weren’t like me. Looking at the man in my theatre troupe who was talking about his partner, I couldn’t make the “hate the sin, love the sinner” mentality work. I just couldn’t. I knew I was supposed to, but I just knew that trying to say “he’s a good person, but he just needs to stop being gay” didn’t work at all. I couldn’t hate what he was without hating who he was. And I just couldn’t, because he was my friend, dammit!

Marriage equality passed. My Facebook feed turned into the proverbial wailing and clothes-tearing from my church friends. And I very slowly... very quietly... started to post the “let’s remember that we shouldn’t hate other people” stuff. The very subtle nudging, still Christian-focused stuff that was juuuuust starting to lean left. Not too over the top, not overtly in support, because I was supposed to be one of them, a member of the church, I had to play along with the mentality.

Playing along got exhausting. Someone would deadname Caitlyn Jenner, and I’d consider for a moment that I should just let it go, that I should just pretend that it was fine. But... what about my artist friend? Would I be okay with someone deadnaming him? No, I would not. And if I was pretending I was onboard with deadnaming Caitlyn, would I have played along with deadnaming my friend? Just so I could fit in and be comfortable? So I corrected them. Her name is Caitlyn.

I learned to listen to more people. I learned why “I don’t see color” wasn’t as good a mentality to have as I thought. I learned that “feminist” wasn’t a dirty word, and it also didn’t mean what I thought it meant. I slowly learned that I was one. I slowly learned, and still learn, how to further expand all the things that covers. I learned about intersectional feminism. I learned about white privilege. I learned about so much and so many people because I was actively listening to them, I was hearing their stories, and I cared about them, wanted them to have good lives, wanted them to be able to make choices about their own lives without people like me saying “I know better.”

I learned about myself, too. At twenty-six years old, I figured out exactly why I was always so baffled when my friends talked about sex like it was this big important thing. Surprise: asexual. A second surprise a few years later: somewhere on the aromantic spectrum as well. (Where? Idk. I’ll tell you when I figure it out myself.)

The point is... it was less than a decade ago that I was exactly the type of bigot that gets chased off everyone’s blogs. I was the everything-phobe, the one who would specifically vote against any type of aid, because bootstraps, amiright? I was a whole-ass bigot. Bitch, I owned a confederate flag ring, and I’ve never lived in the south. (It’s in a landfill somewhere now.) I only learned because I first heard from people not like me, and then I learned to listen. I participated in communities that were diverse, not because I wanted the diversity, but because I wanted the content. The diversity was a side effect. And it’s what saved me.

And it fucking terrifies me how close I could have been to being some alt-right and/or terf radical new-nazi or whatever. Because if I had got on this site about two years later than I did, I’d have been caught right in that echo chamber of radfems and nazis preying on anyone they can get their talons in. I was so close. And now I see these radfems pop up in my notes, and it’s like... that could have been me. That was me at one point. I had the ideology, I just missed the identity of it all by a few years.

I don’t have a “byf” list on my blog for a reason. I don’t go through my followers and weed out the terfs and the nazis and the bigots. If they’re in there, fine. I want them to see my words. I want them to hear from someone who doesn’t think like them. I want them to hear from someone who used to be like them, but then learned (and is always learning) to be better.

And yet when I see them in my notes, I’m obliged to weed them out. I feel guilty when it’s a young girl who has clearly been targeted by the radfems on this site, teaching her that she’ll be stronger if she hates everyone they tell her to. Of all the people on this site, she’s the one who I most want to keep out of the echo chamber. But I also have a responsibility to make sure the people who follow me, the people who I follow and reblog from, don’t get caught by the shrapnel. A radfem liking my post just means I have to pay closer attention to what I say and make sure I don’t fall back on old mentalities. It keeps me accountable. But a radfem in my notes means she’s in the notes of my friends, in my reblog chains. And it is my responsibility not to turn a blind eye when people around me can get hurt.

But goddamn, if ever there was someone who needed a community outside of that circle of bigotry, it’s that fourteen year old girl who proudly calls herself a terf. And I really hope she finds one. I really do.

#also dont reblog this one please #goodnight westley ill most likely delete you in the morning

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sclfmastery · 4 years

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I love Sacha, but Outsourced is kinda gross.

I...am finding it harder and harder to enjoy Outsourced. Sacha is great as usual, and the total show-stealer, but I am on episode 5, and I can’t bear the affectionate way that the narrative portrays the main character, Todd, whose mediocre attempts at being aware and respectful of a different culture are arguably more damaging than the obvious hatred of an outright bigot. It’s kinda like MLK said of a different racial struggle:

Todd is like the king of racial microaggressions. He makes fun of Indian names, he makes fun of Indian gods, he makes fun of Indian cuisine, he even comments that the place smells bad. Manmeet, Sacha’s character, does all he can to gently educate him, but he can’t keep up with Todd’s terrible mistakes.

What’s worse, there’s another American character in the show who’s overtly and proudly racist, and just because he’s portrayed as a jackass to be laughed at doesn’t help, because Todd continues to befriend him, no matter what, which sends the message that his behavior is somehow pardonable. Spoiler: yikes, no it isn’t.

What’s even worse still, is Manmeet and another employee who is a love interest fit the trope of being burdened with having to teach Todd their cultural heritage just so that he stops being wildly offensive. This would not be a problem to the narrative if there weren’t such a power disparity, but there is: he’s their BOSS, and he can make them lose their livelihood, and, as they often openly comment, their social status and hope of things like respect in society as well as a positive marital arrangement.

There are Indian people of diverse ethnoreligious backgrounds in the show, but few of them even have speaking lines, and those that do are made fun of as some kind of pathological, neurotic punchline (see the soft-spoken female character who usually wears a sari: coded therefore as “traditional” and not “with it” in the sense of a global culture. Notice how the love interest, on the other hand, has culturally assimilated with the West and is therefore “the hot one” and “better.” Yikes.)

Don’t get me wrong, the show makes a noble EFFORT to show exactly how awkward it can be trying to learn how to adapt to a new cultural environment. I just don’t see the main character showing genuine investment in trying. If they’d put someone else as the main character, like an American woman of color or something, I feel like the resulting narrative would have been way richer and more productive.

#ooc #Sacha Dhawan #NBC Outsourced #no disrespect to those who like the show as I know Sacha himself is a fan #and I can't claim to be an expert on any of this but i'm really uncomfortable at some of the stuff i'm seeing

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valntinemorgenstern · 7 years

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Fascism in TSC

That LoS is overtly politically charged in a way that makes it a pointed commentary (as many readers have pointed out) on the current trump administration, is blatantly obvious. as is the fact that cassie has elevated the language she’s using to narrate these storylines of conservative shadowhunters wanting to preserve the old ways of of shadowhunter supremacy in the shadow world: for the first time in 12 books she has published, we see the word ‘fascism’ explicitly appear in LoS.

and i say storylines because i’m interested in the way that this is actually a recurrent theme throughout cassie’s novels: sometimes at the centre of the story, and sometimes at its periphery, right-wing politics (and shadowhunters acting as oppressors) is a looming figure, most often manifest in the shape of the Clave. (sadly i can’t elaborate that much on how closely LoS is echoing real-life events with trump, as i’m not a US citizen, but i look forward to that meta from someone else). cassie has said, many times in the past, that cycle 1 of tmi, and valentine’s character specifically, was written to echo hitler’s principles and beliefs and the way he behaved as führer. i think it’s clear that this is being rewoven in TDA and certainly in the way the cohort are gradually gaining power. this is not just something that mirrors trump’s actions at the moment, but in fact right-wing activism and dictators rising to power internationally.

in CoG, we see clary make the alliance rune that brings shadowhunters and downworlders together, where they fight in battle and seemingly are at peace with one another. before LM begins, we see a new law being passed, officially allowing shadowhunters and downworlders to marry (ironic, of course, seeing as the main antagonists of the story are a shadowhunter and downworlder who couldn’t marry). then of course by LoS, we see the backlash against these progressive laws; how, in actual fact, everything clary attempted to do in CoG touched only a small fraction of the shadow world. there remains plenty of shadowhunters out there, such as the dearborns, who have leaped at the chance to get rid of liberalism, and those of the cohort, who have been emboldened by the dearborns’ rhetoric. what clary achieved in cycle 1 of TMI, is rewritten in LoS as a small victory -- not a lasting peace, but a temporary one.

but cassie is always equally interested in how uncomfortably inextricable good and evil are as well: characters who we consider to be paragons of goodness often end up related to other very questionable characters. robert lightwood is an interesting case here. originally a very disagreeable character who cheats on his wife and holds bigoted beliefs, we see him at the end of LoS as ‘mellowed’ and seemingly far more progressive and tolerant -- just before he is killed off. this underlines that, although robert lightwood was indeed an unpleasant character, as he stands in TDA as the inquisitor -- he is a far preferable option to what is waiting in the wings, ready to take his place. in the infernal devices, we see first hand (in a way that we don’t in TMI and TDA) in the york institute the ‘spoils’ of the days before the accords between downworlders and shaowhunters, when shadowhunters actively hunted and, apparently, carried out barbaric acts or torture and execution upon downworlders who they believed were an inferior race. aloysius starkweather, a man who proudly displays the trophies of dead downworlders in the york institute, turns out to be related to tessa, half-warlock (it also makes you wonder: if aloysius’ behaviour was commonplace, what did the shadow world look like before the 1800′s?). this echoes the way downworlders were exploited and experimented on by valentine in his quest to create the perfect shadowhunter in the circle era days. likewise, it’s often easy to forget, that clary’s father was valentine; that the man who raised jace was valentine; that they both (healthy or not) had a real bond with sebastian -- a character who, ideologically, departs from his father in that ideas of ‘purity’ (essentially ethnic cleansing) are unimportant to him; power, in its most malevolent and totalitarian form, is of paramount importance to him.

i think it’s clear that with robert’s death at the end of LoS (see how it parallels the way inquisitor aldertree, and before him, inquisitor herondale i.e. imogen whitelaw were killed -- being inquisitor in cassie’s books is kinda like being professor of the dark arts in HP; it’s a poisoned chalice), we’re seeing a power vacuum open up -- one that will likely be filled by either the dearborns or one of their puppets from the cohort. the new inquisitor will either likely force jia penhallow to their do their bidding, or eventually stage a coup. and once they’ve hijacked the clave completely, it will turn into a totalitarian state concerned with revoking all the liberal reforms that have come before it. do i think the eternal problem of the clave will be solved in QoAaD? no. quite simply, the clave is too large and complex an enemy to defeat in a single book; as cassie has hinted, this is what TWP will be centered around. interesting to think, though, how this final series of cassie’s is looking increasingly like it’s going to be a hybrid fantasy/dystopia series. i’m excited to see ty and kit stage a revolution in TWP.

#my metas #tsc #lord of shadows #LoS spoilers #tda

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kathleenkatmary · 5 years

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hey I can over from your Critical Role tumblr cuz you said you didn't want to answer questions about your sexuality there. Is it cool to ask about it here? You said you had some hard time in fandom cuz of your sexuality and I've been a littler scared to stop lurking because I'm scared of that happening because I'm gay so is it okay to ask you what it's like and what was bad?

Like I said on the CR meta blog, I am open to talking a bit about this here on this tumblr. It’s not something I feel incredibly comfortable talking about it incredibly in depth, but I am willing to talk about it.

To start with, though, I’m not gay. My sexuality and attraction stuff in general is a very messy thing that puts me pretty firmly on the ace spectrum.

So I can’t speak to experiencing fandom as a gay person from firsthand experience. But I do think it’s safe to say that when it comes to sexual identity, anyone who isn’t straight doesn’t have it very easy a lot of the time. Not a lot of representation, people who ship m/f ships getting real mean if you suggest one of the characters in that ship might not be straight, etc. In all fairness I will note that fandom can be a pretty toxic place and that even straight people who ship m/f ships will get a lot of shit and harassment if their m/f is a threat to someone else’s m/f, but it happens to people who aren’t straight WAY more, and it’s usually based in some ignorant and bigoted stuff. And honestly, that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

People on the ace spectrum can end up getting it from both sides, unfortunately, because there’s a lot of misunderstanding of asexuality out there, so a lot of people will see any headcanon or theory that a character is ace and get pretty damn snippy (to put it nicely) because they think that it automatically removes sex from the equation, or romance and love from the equation. And there’s some really toxic stuff that happens with the attitude that sex is essential to romantic relationship and that a romantic and sexual relationship is essential to happiness, and a lot of other stuff that when you put it together... aspec people, if we talk about aspec headcanons or, god forbid, actually suggest that a character might really be aspec in canon... well, people tend to be really, really shitty about it. And like I said, it can come from both sides.

Honestly, this still isn’t a problem I’ve figured out how to deal with. I doubt anyone has. (If anyone reading this has figured it out, hit me up). That’s why I don’t want to talk about this stuff on the CR meta blog, and why I’m sticking to canon-based analysis and not really getting into non-canon ships, headcanons, etc. For one, I don’t think I can take another fandom experience like others I’ve been through. Another is that I love Critical Role a great deal, and it took me a long time to even start that blog because of this fear. So I’m going to try my best to keep it as separate as possible. Like I said in my post on that tumblr, I know that my sexuality is going to inform and influence the way I interpret the story, characters, and relationships, and interact with them. But I can let that happen while still not overtly discussing it there.

So I don’t really know what to tell you about being scared to jump into fandom. God knows I was scared to jump back into it for a really long time. And I don’t know how good (or empowering) my current tactic of “don’t talk about it and try to isolate that part of myself from the fandom” is as advice. Maybe one day I’ll be able to proudly put it out there and not let the treatment it can garner bother me. Maybe this is just my first step toward that. Maybe it’s not. I don’t know. For now, this is how I feel most comfortable doing it. That might not work for everyone.

#aspec #asexuality #Anonymous

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