#bjhm spoilers

[dongslinger--420]

Ok but. The scene in s2e09 "The Shot" fucking breaks me and here's why. BoJack sees Kelsey as a merge between his parents and Herb, what with her being older than him and jaded but also she's a boss figure. And for this reason, BoJack spends a lot of time (shown most in "Chickens" but also a lot of the season tbh) trying to win her approval because she's not giving it to him willingly. He keeps going about it in the wrong way, as we see in Chickens when he is trying to turn her actual literal daughter being in danger into a fun day out, but I think the biggest issue with this is actually that he doesn't really have anything to prove. Kelsey purposefully sought him out for the job because she genuinely believed him to be the best actor there, and although she shows frustration at him not being able to do his job properly, she does still keep this image of him in mind. Which is why the thing that actually does lead him to win her approval is him delivering a genuinely good performance, and said approval just comes in a simple recognition of his skill. BoJack has been in desperate of simple appreciation from his parents (reflected in stuff like the "I see you" theme from Free Churro) and he has been missing the attention and extremely intimate love of his performance that Herb gave him while he was directing him, and Kelsey's "no, I knew" quote manages, in three words, to deliver both to him perfectly. And THAT'S what breaks him. Between the sheer emotional connection he feels towards this woman, and the lack of this connection that he received from the people he wanted it from the most, it just becomes too much for him, and THAT'S what leads him to start crying. It is one of the most layered, emotionally intimate moments of the entire show, and it breaks me every time I watch it.

#this analysis isn't as good as other stuff I've done but. yeah #this scene is EXTREMELY well done #as well as being well set up and delivered #bojack the horse #bojack horseman #bjhm #bjhm s2 #the shot #kelsey jannings #free churro #chickens #bjhm s5 #bjhm spoilers #herb kazzaz #beatrice horseman #butterscotch horseman #bjhm analysis

[lesbianrecorderplayer]

Everyone always talks about how sad or realistic it is that BoJack and Todd's relationship is never the same after "It's You' but like. This is a good thing because their relationship beforehand was terrible lmao

#bojack horseman #bjhm #todd chavez #it's you #bjhm spoilers #I have elaborated in a reblog

[dizzybojack]

on penny and bojack

Recently replied to a reddit post about penny and bojack that was basically trying to pin most (if not all) of the blame on Penny for what happened after her prom. This was basically my reply (edited for tumblr). Also if you find my reddit, no you didn't!

Spoilers below.

The first time I watched this episode, I also thought that Penny was being stupid during this part and was partially to blame for what happened. She definitely needs a little lesson on taking a "no" and consent, but I came to realize that Bojack was also, once again, being selfish and wrong during this storyline. Remember, Penny is JUST over the line for sex with a major to not be considered statutory rape. Bojack at the time is in his 50's. That's pretty disgusting. I concede, Penny definitely shouldn't have kept pushing and accepted Bojack's no. Her behaviour isn't excusable either and shouldn't be simply written off, but we have to keep in mind that Penny is only 17. She isn't aware of the implications of this sexual encounter. She clearly needs to relearn a bit about consent and accepting rejection, but she is a TEENAGER and the fact is that she shouldn't be in this position in the first place.

Bojack isn't stupid. When he dances with her on the top of the water tower and tells her she looks like her mom, he knows he still has feelings for Charlotte. He knows his history of sleeping with younger girls that he is a father figure to (ie: Sarah Lynn) and making terrible shitty decisions. [OP said] it was common sense for Penny to know where this would go, because Bojack has a crush on her mom, but Penny didn't know that at the time. In fact, I would flip it around and say that it's common sense for BOJACK to know where this is going to go. Bojack knows that he still wants Charlotte, he knows that Penny is young and vulnerable and willing. And very similar to her mother, as he says on the water tower. He knows his history, his feelings, his recklessness better than anyone.

I also don't believe Penny was ever "playing the victim" or trying to ruin Bojack's life. We see when Bojack goes on the bender with Sarah Lynn that Penny almost has a panic attack when she sees Bojack. One of her first questions is, "Did you come to find me?" It's heavily implied that Bojack literally gave her a panic disorder. And this is all without even being able to see how Bojack has affected her relationships and ability to trust people! Bojack was a father figure or at least an older man that Penny looked up to and trusted. I'm sure him wanting to have sex with her has affected her future relationships and caused her to be deeply mistrustful of anyone who shows interest in her.

Although he refused the first two times, that's just proof that he knows how fucked up it is when he eventually accepts. He knows he shouldn't and he knows exactly how wrong it is, and yet he does it anyways. There is no excuse for this. If Bojack weren't so self-centred he would have gone straight to Charlotte to tell her what Penny had done immediately to make sure it doesn't happen again. But he doesn't, because he's selfish and a coward. He wants to stay here longer, please, just a bit longer, away from LA and from the mistakes he's made and the people he's hurt and the consequences of his actions.

If anyone disagrees or wants to discuss anything I said, please do. I've lately come to realize more that Bojack is actually just a really shit person as a whole (not to say he can't be redeemed or he isn't deserving of love) so this post is more Bojack-negative. Will tag Bojack neg with #bojack neg so anyone can mute if they don't want to see it.

#bojack neg #bojack horseman #bjhm #penny carson #bjhm spoilers #<- ish i guess.

[fart-boy300]

omg i forgot about my tumblr💔 have this for an apology i swear

#bjhm #bojack horseman #bojack spoilers #diane nguyen #mr peanutbutter #princess carolyn #sarah lynn #todd chavez #bojack #bojack horseman fanart

[starlight-bread-blog]

#oh this damn show #bojack diane #bojack horseman diane #bojack horseman diane nguyen #bojack horseman spoilers #bojack netflix #bojack quotes #bojackthoughts #bojack #bojack horseman quotes #bojack horseman #mr. peanutbutter #bjhm mr peanutbutter #mr peanutbutter #bojack horseman season 6 #it was nice while it lasted #bjhm diane #bjhm quotes #bjhm

[wallace-wells]

blame @dilfgmancoolatta for this one

#venture bros spoilers #blue morpho #mr peanutbutter #paul f tompkins #vbros #bjhm #🖍️

[eat-the-lemons]

Probably not the wisest thing to go to a halloween party in full costume after the ofmd finale. To every1 at this party: get ready to hear Bojack Horseman rant about pirates

#ofmd #ofmd s2 #ofmd s2 spoilers #spoilers #bjhm #halloween

[marxiemoons]

things are just different

ever since she cut her blue hair off

#marxiesmoonies #art #bojack horseman #bojack netflix #bojack season 6 #bojack fanart #bjhm #bjhm fanart #tv girl #bojack spoilers #netflix #diane nguyen

[xanny-zuko]

so obviously we all know that the penny situation is probably one of bojack’s worst actions. but something to consider is his motive. not to justify his actions, they are inexcusable. but it is important to consider when analyzing his character. 

now, the most popular consensus i’ve seen is that bojack did it because he couldn’t get with charlotte, so he went with the next best option. but another option to consider is...what if it was out of revenge? what if he wanted charlotte to find out, because he knew how much it would hurt her? charlotte wouldnt sleep with him, so he sleeps with her 17-year-old daughter. sa isnt a crime of attraction, it’s a crime of power, and bojack has been known to exploit power dynamics in his relationships. just something i’ve been thinking about, sorry if this was incomprehensible.

#bojack horseman #bojack spoilers #penny carson #charlotte carson #bojack #bjhm #bojack horsman s2 #bjhm s2 #escape from la #tw sa

[toritorisstuff]

*Bojack Horseman Spoilers ???*

Not Res related but none of my friends like/watch BJHM so I needed someplace to rant lolz

Anyway, one think I’ve noticed is how everyone in the fandom hates Bojacks guts and wants him dead (me too), and always hate on ppl that relate to him. And while I think you should dislike Bojack, you are and aren’t supposed to relate to him.

I don’t know how to word that properly, but I feel as if Bojack was made to be relatable but not in a good way. relatable in a way that if you find yourself having the same traits of him you should get help. Relatable in the way that your hatred for this stupid horse should overpower your need to kin him, which should push you to better yourself.

The whole show in my POV, is that Bojack is made to not be likable. He’s made for you to hate him. He’s made for you to think he’s a selfish bastard and that he’s a horrible disgusting alcoholic. Everyone hates him yet no one is really open to relating to him, which is the point!!

He’s made to be unlikable, but he’s made to be relatable!! He’s made so that you hate him so much yet you see yourself in him. Which can cause you some self doubg and hypocrisy, which will and should push you to get the held you need! Nobody wants to be a Bojack.

I know I just repeated the same thing but I needed to put my thoughts down

#idk how to tag this #how do i tag lmao #how do i use tumblr #resident evil #ethan winters #leon kennedy #resident evil 8 #resident evil leon #i hate it here #bojack rewatch #bojackthoughts #bojack horseman #bjhm #bojack spoilers #sorry for the rant #rant #idk what else to tag #dms open #get help #rehab was supposed to be a fresh start

[dizzythegreat]

"It's not too late for me, is it? It's not too late- Diane, I- I need you to tell me that it's not too late-"  "Bojack..." "I need- I need you to tell me that I'm a good person. I know that I can be selfish and narcissistic and self-destructive but underneath all that, deep down, I'm a good person and- and I need you to tell me that I'm good, Diane, tell me, please, Diane, tell me that I'm good..." "......"

#MY ABSOLUTE FAVOURITE QUOTE EVER #it actually tears me to shreds every time #bojack horseman #bjhm #bojack horseman spoilers #<- i guess?

[dongslinger--420]

One of the best things about Princess Carolyn is that she had two healthy relationships and they both happened AFTER she realised that she doesn't need to be in a relationship.

#one day that will happen to me #anyway I adore this woman #princess carolyn #bojack horseman #bjhm #ralph stilton #judah mannowdog #bjhm spoilers #bjhm s2 #bjhm s4 #bjhm s6

[lesbianrecorderplayer]

Thinking about Charlotte's "LA is a tar pit" quote and how BoJack and Diane's respective character arcs revolve around breaking free from places both emotionally and physically. BoJack tries so hard to escape from his past, leaving LA multiple times in the process, but his past always catches up to him and things only get better when he forces himself to work through it and deal with the consequences of his actions. On the other hand, Diane tries at several times throughout the show to fix things in her life in LA but she stays miserable until she decides that she's "tired of squinting" and manages to find a routine that she loves and is happy with in Chicago.

#just thought that was neat #bojack horseman #bojack the horse #bjhm #bjhm spoilers #diane nguyen #charlotte carson

[dizzybojack]

sarah lynn's catchphrase on horsin' around being "that's too much, man!" and then dying of an OVERDOSE and the episode being nAMED THATS TOO MUCH MAN IM SO ANGRY

#bojack horseman spoilers #bojack horseman #bjhm #WHY DID THEY DO THAT #she had too much man....

[fart-boy300]

first art post!!!🤯🤯🤯🤯

#bojack horseman #mr peanutbutter #bojack spoilers #diane nguyen #princess carolyn #todd chavez #sarah lynn #bjhm #bojack horseman fanart

[starlight-bread-blog]

i just wanted to say your pfp reminded me of diane nyugen from bojack horseman. speaking of which, do you have any opinions on bojack horseman you'd like to share?

That is Diane! :)) My header is also BoJack Horseman with Diane's amazing quote "Sometimes life is a bitch and then you keep living". I love her and this show SO MUCH, and I absolutly have opinions I wanna share.

If I had to pick an episode that encapsulates what this show is, my picks would be:

Let's Find Out

The Shot

That Went Well

The Underground

Episodes that balance comedy with drama so well I can't even begin to dissect it. Let's Find Out's framing device being a game show is so smart, AND THE ENDING- The Shot is so objectively silly but god, it's the only time (?) we see BoJack full on cry. In The Underground they burn and eat Zach Braff✨️ That Went Well just- words can't do it justice.

I also really like the ending. It's PERFECT. (Not literally). BoJack's journey was about radical freedom, about how all of his actions are his fault, about how after rock bottom, life will still continue.

This theme is the reason why the most important episodes aren't the finales. Having BoJack face all the consequences for his actions is the best way to conclude his journey. It's not conclusive, but that's what the show has been saying this whole time.

Also also, Diane's arc in season 6>>>> Like. That's so real. Stories just kinda creep up on you sometimes fully formed. Negative emotions fuel so much art, and her need to make sense of her trauma by using art to help others, and how it parallels Penny--- the show actually stated that tragety has no meaning in season 2. Herb's death was so stupid and served nothing. BoJack tried to give it meaning, but there was none.

Also also also-- the show called out all the freaks who use BoJack to excuse themselves.

You see these writers care about what they're putting out there. And on top of that, it's also an amazing scene. It's like It's You being followed up with That's Too Much Man. Head in the Coulds -> The Showstopper.

Btw – two of the best episodes if the show are one with all words and no words. Both end with a joke that has a meaning. BoJack could have apologized this whole time. And I love that theme that played at the end of Fish Out of Water. AND Free Churro was nominated for an Emmy! Deserved.

I could keep going, but other points I'd like to touch upon deserve a full meta. Thank you for this ask, I had an excuse to talk about BoJack Horseman! Asks about Bjhm are ALWAYS welcome.

#bojackthoughts #bojack quotes #bojack horseman memes #bojack horseman quotes #diane nguyen #todd chavez #free churro #bojack ending #bojack horseman spoilers #bojack horseman season 6 #bjhm diane #bjhm mr peanutbutter #bjhm todd #bjhm #herb kazazz #mr. peanutbutter #bojack horseman #asks #asks open #bojack todd #bojack diane #bojack