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charmedslayer · 2 years
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Sunnydale, 1998 | Romania, 1898
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spikedaily · 30 days
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« Come on. What's the worst thing that could happen to her? » BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER 5.22 “The Gift” | 7.20 “Touched”
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mycatismyfriend · 6 months
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BtVS 3x17 → AtS 1x18
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liam-summers · 4 months
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BtVS 2.10 ⇋ AtS 1.08
Bonus:
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dailyats · 2 years
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BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER (1997-2003) 2.06 – “Halloween” ANGEL (1999-2004) 2.17 – “Disharmony”
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dykejaskier · 1 year
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BTVS 3.14 → Angel 1.18
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someonefantastic · 1 year
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COFFY APPRECIATION WEEK 2023 Day 1 ✰ Favorite Parallel ↳ ATS 3.02 // BTVS 7.05
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oveliagirlhaditright · 6 months
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The times Buffy saw Angel's vamp face for the first time in Buffy (because she didn't have her memories in "Halloween," of course).
Bonus: The first Boom AU:
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#buffy the vampire slayer#parallels#bangel#angel#buffy summers#boom#btvs#buffy#i'm not always the biggest fan of the boom aus. or how they've handled the buffy property. but their first time at tackling a buffyverse au#was probably my favorite for quite a few reasons#angel the series#ats#like i feel like these buffy and angel au comics had some nice things going for them at the start. and it felt like the author(s) new what#they knew what they wanted to do with them at first. though eventually it did feel like they were just throwing things at a wall. yeah#and i do love what they did with kendra. that's a big selling point for me. maybe one of the biggest#and i'll admit that i appreciate this comic for. you know. actually having buffy and angel interact and somewhat a part of each other's#lives (like they should be). and based on the one prophecy it looked like there was eventually going to be more before both comics ended/#were canceled. unlike most of boom that ignores the buffy and angel dynamic completely that honestly hurts them#also i felt like the angel comic at least one time tried to do one metaphor story before dropping it#and that's at least more than any of the others#but the soul link stuff was interesting. some of the stuff with xander and willow was at first (partly because of the soul link) before it#got dropped so fast with xander dying so soon#and more should have been done with rose#and even though. logically. having three slayers is over-powered i was still okay with that fan-service in this comic#especially since it gave us kendra who will always deserve better (some may say they should have just did an au without faith then). but sh#and i like the idea they came up with to have all three slayers without any of them dying#that when buffy first went to the hellmouth. and then kendra. it activated the next slayer#because the hellmouth is hell. and that would confuse the slayer line and make them think the current slayer is dead and thus maybe the nex#one should be activated? anyway
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idabbleincrazy · 2 years
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Buffyverse (1997-2004)/Supernatural (2005-2020) Parallels (1/?)
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amberaddict · 3 months
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I was heartbroken when I heard the news that there will not be a Slayers: A Buffyverse Story Season 2.
For fans of Buffy it gave us a chance to reconnect with much loved characters and the superb cast who played them. The production values were excellent along with the superb writing which gave us a way to experience characters that we thought had gone for good. It gave them new voices and in some cases new beginnings.
It did this all with supernatural thrills and spills mixed with raw emotion romance danger and laughter. Like the series it threw curveballs it had the audience laughing when they felt like they should be crying and vice versa.
Wonderfully brought to life by a magnificent cast who love the characters they played and the world of the Buffyverse as much as the fans.
Slayers was the number 1 most listened to product on the Audible platform in the USA, UK and Australia when it was released. I believe I'm correct in saying it was also the number one product on the Audible platform in all of 2023. So from a commercial standpoint it makes no sense to cancel something that was so popular.
There is some speculation that Disney want to clear the way ahead of a new version of Buffy for television or more likely streaming.
If this theory is correct the decision to cancel Slayers makes no sense either in my opinion. Even if they moved at a brisk pace at a rough estimate any TV series is at least two years away by the time they cast, film and market it ready for release. During that time a series like Slayers keeps the Buffy brand in the public eye in a very positive way and makes its parent company money. Whereas the decision to cancel Slayers alienates loyal fans and in my opinion makes them less likely to support a new show.
Other franchises such as Star Trek and Star Wars have had multiple TV or streaming shows running almost parallel. Along with a wide selection of books comics and even animated series. All exploring different parts of the universe and/or set in a particular part of the shows timeline. If franchises as big as the ones I just mention can do this with success then why must Buffy put all of its creative eggs in one basket? Slayers was and is accessible to fans old and new and it wouldn't prevent interest in a new series if anything it would enhance it. Another theory being put forward is multiple products could cause "confusion". In my view this is nonsense give your audience some credit fans of other franchises are doing this so why not Buffy fans?
Both financially and creatively Disney's decision and its apparent refusal to give any clear reason as to why there will not be a Season 2 makes no sense to me. Once again the only ones who lose out here are the fans an incredible cast and crew who who worked hard to bring us all back together. They gave us so much joy.
I urge Disney to reconsider their decision and give Slayers: A Buffyverse Story the Season 2 it deserves.
Joe
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On Charles Gunn and Community
A large part of why I want to write this meta is that I don’t really see many people talking about Gunn. This is not all my thoughts on Gunn, I am going to write more over time. I have stated before that I personally feel that Gunn is in fact a much more complicated character than many here give him credit for.
I posit that the reason for this lack of credit was a larger trend of people in the fandom accepting the narratives presented by white characters regarding the people of color in the show (this is probably more discussed about at this point regarding Spike and Nikki and Robin Wood). While this essay is not entirely about the racism present in the corpus of Angel the Series, it exists in dialogue with more in depth takes on the racism present in Ats.
Gunn is in many respects unique in the buffyverse. There are no other people of color who achieve the status of main cast member, and certainly not for four consecutive seasons. The lack of discussion regarding him is a huge indignity to his character.
Much more care is taken to fleshing out Gunn in season two than in other seasons. In season two Gunn has a life outside of Angel Investigations. He has roots in the city, a community that he has spent his life dedicated to protecting. In season three, after the events of “That Old Gang of Mine” (3x03), this critical aspect of his character is gone.
It would be inaccurate to say that this happens suddenly, but the way it is handled is different in season three. During most of season two, Gunn exists in two worlds, never fully belonging to either. Both the early stages of the Pylea arc and especially “That Old Gang of Mine” throw into sharp focus that the story the writers want to tell with him is that he cannot live in this state of dual existence. “That Old Gang of Mine” depicts the members of Gunn’s old community as violent and unenlightened, with Gunn being pulled in two highly racialized directions: “black” wanton violence, and “white” enlightened application of reason regarding the use of violence. The way the episode portrays people of color is just downright awful, and Ats’s larger portrayal of race actively upholds existing, current stereotypes surrounding people of color.
I would say that Gunn is someone who cares highly about community. Episodes like 1x20 “War Zone,” 2x03 “First Impressions,” and 2x14 “The Thin Dead Line” contrast Gunn heavily with the other three members of AI. Gunn doesn’t fight for some greater ideal like others, but because it helps protect the people around him, as highlighted by @titsgirlbuffy and @punksouthie here:
Gunn’s decisions in “That Old Gang of Mine” are heavily informed by the idea posed by writers that AI and his old community are ideologically opposed. He is forced to choose between the two. The reason he comes to the decision that he does is largely decided by the dynamics at play in the situation. It is only once he is put in a situation where those who he has bonded with are at risk – the showdown in Caritas – that Gunn fully reflects and decides to turn against those in his old community. Gunn recontextualizes the scenario as being about an “out of town” person stirring up trouble within his community only once Angel and Lorne are put at risk. While he says in this gifset that it is about the mission, he does not necessarily argue against demons as an “other” to humans but more argues in defense of Angel *specifically*:
Anne reflecting the existentialist themes of the show back at Gunn in “Never Fade Away” recontextualizes everything. It parallels Doyle’s conversation with Angel in “City of” around the need to not be cut off. In these short two lines of dialogue, so much is said.
This post contains a similar parallel:
In the larger context of the show, we can see that Gunn starts off a paragon of Doyle’s explicitly stated message of what the show is about. He is incredibly entrenched in his local community. He knows the people he interacts with in “First Impressions” and “The Thin Dead Line.” He fights not for an ideal but for others. Over time, as he interacts with AI, he gets increasingly cut off from those that he is helping, moving further and further away from the actual mission of AI.
In his first appearance Gunn recognizes this, actually:
The conversation with Anne is not just about AI having lost its way but also about Gunn losing Everything. The people he has spent years trying to fit in with look at him and see the reason Fred is dead. He has no one and has so thoroughly internalized the values of his white co-workers that when he goes back to help Anne, he is separated from his old community by a vast ideological language barrier.
Brief aside that I might go into in more depth in a later post but I would like you to think about Fred’s death with regard to Gunn’s words here. A missed opportunity with Gunn’s character is exploring how he is impacted by hypervigilance and his tendency for blaming himself for events out of his control:
One interesting direction a rewrite (from a writer’s room with black writers in it) could go is having Gunn become the leader post 2x11 “Redefinition,” leading to closer interaction with the people of LA. AI becomes a much more high-profile member of the community and there is more focus on how Wolfram and Hart enables material harm in high poverty areas. I will talk about this more in the future because I think it is an interesting road to go down.
This post barely scratches the surface of my thoughts on Gunn. I haven’t even explained the take on valuing community fully. I think to fully present my take on that I need to write up at least another full post on it. There is also so much more to write about other things, like more alternate roles Gunn could have filled in AI as I talk about here:
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mollspeak · 2 years
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i love spike outrageously but every damn day I think about what would have happened if drusilla had become a scooby post-break-up instead of spike. literally nothing else changes: drusilla has an enemies to lovers romance with buffy (we already know she likes blondes aka darla and spike). drusilla babysits dawn. drusilla helps tara when she loses her memories to glory. faith and drusilla! drusilla and giles are odd couple roomates. drusilla and anya hook up in 6x18. so much more room for ats crossovers. have spike come back in crush instead of drusilla. on a serious note, imagine some of the heartwrenching stuff you could do with drusilla's character -- imagine the cross-burning parallel scenes you get with angel and spike, and something similar for dru. especially because i've seen people talk about how drusilla's visions mean she was a potential slayer.
basically. want it. now.
oh also fun bonus: in an interview with buffering the vampire, juliet landau said she reckoned, given the choice of the entire buffyverse, drusilla would pick xander as her best friend.
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mycatismyfriend · 6 months
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Angel the Series | 5x15 | Part 2 of this post.
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liam-summers · 7 months
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BTVS 2.06 | 2.09
Angel + 😧
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buffysource · 8 months
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Several cast members of the 20-year-old supernatural TV drama “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” are reuniting to slay again in a new Audible original, “Slayers: A Buffyverse Story.”
Original “Buffy” actors James Marsters, Charisma Carpenter, Anthony Head, Juliet Landau, Emma Caulfield Ford, Amber Benson, James Charles Leary and Danny Strong will star in the scripted audio original, with newcomer Laya DeLeon Hayes joining the cast, according to Audible.
Picking up a decade after the final 2003 episode of “Buffy,” the audio series “brings fans a fresh story and a new world, filled with horror, heart, humor, and surprises at every turn,” and follows Spike (Marsters) as he goes “deep undercover in Los Angeles, convincing the forces of darkness that he’s back to his evil ways.”
“While he attempts to track down a watcher for his eager new protégé (DeLeon Hayes), their paths collide with the veteran Slayer of a parallel reality where Buffy Summers (Sarah Michelle Gellar) never existed…a reality where Cordelia Chase (Carpenter) is the one-and-only Slayer,” according to the official synopsis.
Gellar, Alyson Hannigan, Eliza Dushku and David Boreanaz, who also starred in the original “Buffy” series, do not appear to be part of the “Slayers” project. 
'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' cast to reunite for new Audible original 'Slayers: A Buffyverse Story' | CNN
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girl4music · 3 months
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Wow. Wow. Wow!
God you’re so good at these.
The parallels and juxtapositions you find and bring up to go along with the music chosen. Amazing observations.
Willow and Spike are two of my TOP 3 favourite characters in all of the Buffyverse. They are, to me, the characters with the most character representation and development out of the main protagonists/antagonists. They’re the most morally grey characters by far and their individual arcs are so compelling because of it.
I’ve always wanted there to be an interaction between Spike and Dark Willow. I wanted Dark Willow to capture him and say something like “Now who’s the helpless prey?” or something like that. I mean I feel Spike avoided Willow intentionally in Season 6 because he could see right through her to the beast she was becoming - to the beast that he was and still could be if pushed far enough. There was always that common denominator between them that made their “beast” side come out of hiding. And that was constantly feeling like they were loveless losers. That chronic anxiety of insecurity and mediocrity. Afraid to be rejected, afraid to be denied, afraid to be perceived as anything less than powerful and worthy. There is so much there to be explored between them that it’s a shame the show didn’t besides a few iconic one-on-one scenes that you illustrated so very wonderfully in this character dynamic study video.
Incredible job once again! ❤❤❤️
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