#but that does not make nancy bad

[jancysmixtape]

It really upsets me, when people try to make Nancy out to be the bad one, in the bathroom scene. She has seen so much, and lost one of the most important people in her life. She did the best she could, trying to get people to listen, and look for Barb, but not many people did.

She knows her best friend is dead, and she hears Barb’s family are selling their house to go find her because they believe she’s out there alive. She’s not able to tell them the truth, that she’s actually gone. The pain that must feel has to be unbearable. Nancy thinks she is the reason why Barb is gone. She believes she killed her. And knowing that her last conversation with her wasn’t good and she ended up telling her to leave. That is one of the most painful things to go through. She wasn’t able to say goodbye either. She’s being told to party and be like stupid teenagers (this is not a post attacking Steve so do not make it one, please), while she probably cries herself to sleep most nights due to the pain of losing her best friend and fully knowing she is gone and never coming back. I will never understand anyone who can say she was gross, in this scene, when she has been through so much and was obviously in a very vulnerable state. She hasn’t been okay in a year, spending time with her best friend’s grieving family, having these thoughts that she killed her. Nancy Wheeler is not a villain. She is not a bad person. She is not a terrible girlfriend. She was a girl dealing w extreme amounts of trauma and didn’t have any good coping mechanisms. She thought she was the reason for her best friend’s death and thought nobody was listening.

#stranger things #stranger things s2 #nancy wheeler #barb holland #vent #rant #I’m so tired of her being labeled as the bad one #saying she’s toxic #abusive #saying she broke Steve’s heart #when yeah it must hurt hearing the person you’re in love with doesn’t feel the same #but that does not make nancy bad #she has dealt with so much trauma #and probably feels alone without her best friend #the pain in her eyes in all of these #she just wanted her best friend back #she wanted barbs family to know the truth #it must’ve killed her knowing she couldn’t tell them #while knowing they were selling their house to find her #my poor baby #she doesn’t deserve to feel this much pain

[sspiderj]

karen wheeler defender till the day i die

#‘she never knows where her kids are’ no parent does #joyce doesn’t either most of the time but y’all call her the best mother #‘she cheated on ted’ she actually didn’t #like i need y’all to realise she did not cheat on ted she only thought about it #when did y’all become obsessed with ted? #there’s a huge fucking difference #also like i’d still defend her if she did cheat on ted #she deserves better than ted #‘she’s a bad mother and doesn’t care about her kids’ did we watch the same show? #were you blindfolded and wearing noise cancelling headphones during the scene with her and nancy in season 3 about her job? #or the scene with her and mike after will had gone missing where she heavily implied that she knew mike was queer #and she would support him no matter what? #also shut up #the way mike hugged her after he saw wills body #makes me cry everytime #i love her and i hate everyone who calls her a bad mum #she’s also a closeted lesbian and in love with joyce so shut up #stranger things #karen wheeler

[roberrtphilip]

I like to think Robert and Nancy's relationship post-breakup consists of her giving him shit for almost cheating and he just has to sit there and take it because what can he do, fight back ?? she's right !!

#and I mean in a playful way of course because they're besties and she does not Actually care #she just likes to push his buttons yk? #they love to give each other shit. like he'll poke fun at something she (or edward) does and she's like. oh so you wanna be executed? #cause I can make that happen do you want that to happen??? #anyway one day I'll finish that fic where they (along with edward and giselle) have a convo #about what happened and they get proper closure and start on their path to becoming the besties they are later #the dialogue I wrote for them is very funny I think. I wanna finish it so bad urg #until then .... goodnight 😴 #enchanted #robert philip #nancy tremaine #hc #em.txt

[charleslucid]

Shut up, Billy will subconsciously move behind Steve if there is somebody who looks even remotely similar to Neil. He doesn’t even do it on purpose, he just knows that Steve will protect him in case anything happens.

#the opposite happens when Nancy is around tho #Billy hates Nancy #he just does #he picks out every little bad thing she does and complains about it #he will make sure to keep Steve and Nancy 6 feet apart #social distancing ahead of its time #harringrove #billy headcanon

[beefy-babe-showdown]

How are those submissions coming? Can't wait to see all the beefy women 🤤

yeah it's going really well actually! we're already at 208 submissions, I could probably close it early if I wanted, but I'll leave it open at least a few more days. I also haven't fully counted anything up yet, so I don't know exactly how many are actually different characters and how many are repeats, but it looks like we're standing a good chance of a 64 character bracket here

#there's been a few funny ones though #someone submitted nancy wheeler? I LOVE her I swear but she's not qualifying I'm so sorry #someone else submitted yor forger and said she isn't really built but that she canonically has inhuman strength #which. I haven't watched spy x family. but I'm telling you now I'm only letting her in if she gets way more submissions #bc again. this is more about body type #someone also submitted willow park?? I haven't watched the owl house is there something I'm missing there #ALSO funny but in a different way. people keep submitting yasha from critical role and one person had to link the official art #and be like “listen. she's depicted as way more muscular in all fanwork” bc. she does look slim in the official artwork #so I do want you all to know that her sheer amount of submissions guarantees her a spot #similarly with gideon nav people keep submitting her and being like “the book artwork is bad she's SOO muscular” #I know. I read the book (haven't finished the series yet though) she was already on my mind when I started this. she's getting in #actually maybe I should make a post with a list of women guaranteed placement #there are some women I had in mind though who have a surprisingly low submission count. I'm worried my personal blorbos won't make it in #ask #anon

[nero-neptune]

been reflecting on the fourth season and. again. in all fairness to jason carver, like. man. i really do feel bad for that boy. he had the worst fucking week of his life. and it does suck that how he responded to two terrible tragedies overshadows everything potentially good about him

#girlfriend gets tragically murdered and sees his best friend get tragically murdered #in one of the most grotesque ways possible mind you #and he has to carry his friend's broken body back to shore #like the context of the time period matters and if the news was saying dnd was evil and bam. weird fucking murders happen in your town #one of which happened nearby the leader of the dnd club #like sure i liked eddie but the audience got to see more of him. jason just saw the bare minimum #if what happened to jason happened to anyone of course they'd go crazy and start piecing things together that dont make sense #my sister mentioned that during that last scene with lucas where lucas is trying to explain everything to jason #(wayyyy too late in the game) #it does look like jason is trying to rationalize it but to him it doesnt hold a candle to what he already put together #hell. when has anyone taken anything about the upside down at face value? and it's usually in much calmer scenarios #maybe the reason i feel so bad for jason is bc that couldve easily been steve if something happened to nancy in season one #we dont know much about jason except for the fact that it looks like he really did love chrissy #rambles #stranger things #stranger things spoilers #jason carver

[dastardlydandelion]

nace's popularity befuddles me. the dude who plays ace is hands down the worst actor on the show, like his face never changes?? i srsly think he doesn't even know how to emote, unsure how he got the job. 🤔

#nancy drew #like that ship is like 70% of the cw nd tag #h o w #kennedy mcmann #is good #i think she improved after season 1 and she was never outright bad #but that blonde guy #face never changes #voice never changes #he has nice hair but that does not make up for it his acting is so bad it's actually distracting #hope he dies this season lmao

[jancysmixtape]

Can we, PLEASE, talk about how Nancy antis only hate on her due to THEIR ignorant headcanons of her??

“She’s ableist” she has never been ableist on the show.

“Shes homophobic” that scene literally does not exist

“She’s abusive” please, show me where.

“She has mistreated Steve” again, show me where.

I never see any Nancy antis criticize her for things she has done in canon, it’s always about these weird theories or headcanons they create of her, and it’s honestly looking like pure misogyny to me. There has never been a scene where she has genuinely been homophobic, or abusive, or an ableist and i find it extremely weird how people want to paint her as those things so much. Why project your nasty views onto her???

#Nancy wheeler #stranger things #Steve Harrington #she hasn’t done a single bad thing in her life #the way I see her getting more hate than genuinely problematic characters angers me so much #she has always been an empathetic person #and does her best for everyone #she cares so deeply for those around her #and only wants to help the world #has she made some mistakes? maybe #because she is human #but she has never been an abuser or homophobic #and I’m tired of seeing people make these nasty headcanons of her #it’s weird

[bylertruther]

mike would bite y'all for comparing him to steve 💔 he will NEVER be michael wheeler ✋

#pls..... the rain fight line was out of pocket yes but DID HE LIE? #he wasn't saying it in a bad way #he was just saying 'DAMN bro lay off me' in a knee-jerk way bc #1) it's LITERALLY not his fault tht will doesn't like girls and as such cannot get a girlfriend like them and #2) will has been bottling this all up and just exploded on him so it's not like he could've prepared a way to word that better beforehand #and 3) he says 'it's not MY fault' because will is pinning the breakdown of the party on HIM as if he can control other people and #4) mike has NEVER been homophobic he literally pushed troy down for what he said and clearly does not ever like any of the homophobic #things anyone has EVER said about will and he makes him feel like he's not a mistake and like he has a place in this world and like he's #/BETTER/ for being different so literally how on fucking earth are you going to say he's being homophobic for being blunt ONE TIME #meanwhile steve was a punk ass bitch for what? clout?! cos he felt emasculated? bc he was being a follower? #it was mean of mike to point it out bc they were talking abt friendship not That specifically but it feels a little um . #odd to act like he's calling him a literal slur and bringing up sexuality in a cruel way like how steve did to jonathan. #sorry it's literally a gif set but can we PLEASE not act like mike called will a fucking slur and is homophobic like are you kidding me. #(tiffany pollard voice) STEVE?!?! mike sweetie i'm SO sorry tht someone would say tht to u #and steve clearly did love nancy btw. they're just not compatible and he doesn't see that bc he doesn't see the entirety of who she is now. #srry tht rain fight is NOTHING like the steve n jonathan fight sorry but it isn't. it isn't!!!!!!!!!! put some respect on mike's name!!!!!! #ok im fine. im gonna eat my cheerios now bye waving emoji etc

[echoing-oursong]

canon: explicitly shows how nancy is dealing with barb’s death and how she’s just a teenager and deserves sympathy and how she’s not okay after everything and that fucks over her relationship with everyone else and how she’s deeply traumatized and how she is right to be going through all this

some people: complain how people don’t see nancy as a teenager and what she’s going through

canon: gives steve shit for not properly getting over how he saw a monster and instead just wants to ignore it and not giving any sympathy to steve for dealing it with this way and not exploration about steve’s trauma and how he gets told by the one person he gave up everything to be with the whole time thinks he’s bullshit and laughs in his face when he just wants her to say the thing that she’s been saying for the whole relationship

steve stan’s: explore steve’s trauma and just want to actually give steve more development and sympathize what steve is going through

some people: god why do you have to give steve nancy’s trauma? hell why are you even thinking about him when you should be thinking about nancy and offering her some sympathy cuz steve doesn’t even deserve it

#stranger things fandom #like this is what y’all sound like to me sometimes and it’s fucking heartbreaking to me #like love who you want but for the love of god why can’t i feel bad for steve without having to constantly be thinking about nancy when she #is the one who gets the main plot point about it and i can just see that plot point unfold on screen meanwhile i have to make shit up about #how steve is feeling and dealing with it cuz canon does not explore it even once!!!!!

[medusacomplex]

monster hunter au please!

#in any supernatural verse nancy would have had a bad experience due to #the lab + demogorg + barb etc etc in whatever way makes sense #then likely would pull a bit of a buffy – albeit entirely based on instincts #and her own research bc she is in no way a chosen one etc etc #she's like giles x buffy kinda. does that make sense #i havent seen buffy. ill level with you #tbd /

[yerimoonlight]

I just ugly cried for a good portion of the second half of the piggyback

#personal #stranger things spoilers #stranger things 4 #stranger things #yeah maybe it’s because I was watched it in the middle of the night #but OOOOF the water works were working #not only was I ugly sobbing when Lucas was holding Max and she was pleading #but I had to cover my mouth bc I was gasping for breath top tier crying my eyes out when they showed El with them #bruh literally the power of friendship #and platonic dynamics...absolute end of me #and especially el and max! ever since max came into the picture I wanted them to be partners in crime😭 #top 3 characters season 5 better focus on #1. WILL. GIVE NOAH SCHNAPP HIS SCREEN TIME HE MAKES ME TEAR UP EVERY TIME HE DOES THE CHOKED VOICE THING #2. Eleven. I mean obviously like she is gonna end that sob but she’s also gonna be internalizing a lot #3. it’s a tie between Nancy and Max. I want it to be max so bad #but I feel like they are gonna utilize this weird place Nancy is in between Jonathan and Steve #but really if Nancy has a heavy leading role next season I want it to be because she’s facing off vecna #yanno her badassry and not for the romance #leave the romance to Lucas/max and Joyce/hopper #btw I did cry during the speech that followed mike’s finally declaration of love to Eleven #he has annoyed me a little since season 3 and even their relationship was rocky earlier this season #but c’mon...the way he was referencing love at first sight BYEEE #TEARS WERE STREAMING #I mean we been knew but wow #also Vickie and robin endgame girly broke up with her boyfriend yeeeee #I guessing Murray is okay and dimitri too bc the helicopter scene and whatnot

[kingofmyborrowedheart]

It was rare, I was there.

#the Nancy tag #Payton makes bad jokes #she very rarely does this so I try to be as still and make it last as long as I can

[kennahjune]

ALRIGHT BUT

I’ve been having flustered Steve thoughts.

The Party has NEVER seen Steve flustered. Steve’s always the one flirting and no one ever flirts back anymore so Steve’s never actually flustered.

But then Eddie Munson comes slithering along and he flirts with everyone just cause he can but nobody’s flustered by his attempts because he’s not trying to actually fluster them.

But for some reason he really flusters Steve.

Eddie uses this to his advantage and actually puts forth effort when he flirts with Steve.

Steve is flustered, bashful, embarrassed. He’s twirling his hair and giggling and he does this thing where he taps his fingernails on his front teeth when he gets distracted.

The Party was NEVER seen Steve like this.

Not even Nancy when they were dating.

Steve has described what he was like when he was flustered to them, calling himself stupid and saying he acted like an idiot to try and get them to just lay off.

All anyone sees is an absolute sweetheart.

Steve blushes really bright, starting with his ears and it just travels down from there. And also he’s really bad at hiding his smiles and he smiles so BIG when Eddie flirts with him. Like you can see every tooth and his eyes crinkle so much they basically close and his nose scrunches up.

And Eddie fucking THRIVES in it.

Because NO ONE else gets Steve like that.

Eddie’s witnessed Steve flirting with the girls of Hawkins. Has seen them all flirt back with varying degrees of bluntness.

None of them have gotten Steve nearly half as flustered as Eddie has.

UNTIL.

Eddie has Steve come over to the trailer to hang out. Steve by some turn of events ends up cooking and making grilled cheese and tomato soup.

Wayne comes home right as Steve is playing everything and Steve is DISTRAUGHT. Like “no Wayne it’s alright, really. I can make you some to it’s ok I like cooking you’re really doing me a favor.”

So Steve makes Wayne a grilled cheese to and refuses to let Eddie eat until they can eat together.

So they’re all sitting and then they start eating. And obviously it was a damn good grilled cheese— Eddie knew Steve could cook but good GOD.

And then Wayne puts his grilled cheese down, looks between Steve and Eddie, and tells Eddie “If you don’t marry ‘im I’m adoptin ‘im.”

And Steve BEAMS.

It’s that same smile he gets when Eddie flirts with him and Eddie is only somewhat livid.

Cause he totally gets the rush of having Wayne compliment you for the first time. He’s just such an honest man.

And it goes from there that the only people who can fluster Steve are Eddie and Wayne (Eddie romantically and Wayne platonic-fatherly).

They both go out of their way to compliment him constantly just to see him smile like that :)))

Aaahhhhh this makes me so happy!!!!

#steve harrington headcanon #stranger things #eddie munson #steve harrington #the party #wayne munson #steddie #steddie thoughts #steddie idea #steve harrington is a sweetheart #steve harrington gets flustered easily #but only when it’s the munson men #wayne munson adopting steve harrington #the party goes through a phase where they all continuously compliment him and flirt with him #just to try and fluster him #the closest anyone gets is mike #cause mike doesn’t compliment people often but when he does he’s surprisingly genuine #the most he gets is a blush at the top of steve’s cheeks #eddie is very proud of the smiles he produces from steve #but he’s kinda sad no one can see what steve looks like when things get less… pg #but that’s strictly for eddie #might make a part two to this with a different version #I’ve run out of things to tag

[maddy-ferguson]

a part of me thinks (or considers) that they brought stncy back bc they might seem the situation from the angle that steve personally developed and changed, and when nancy is 'ready' to enter a relationship with him again he will wait. they also might have planned nancy and jonathan to have relationship problems without fixing them as a set up for breaking them up, and it kinda seems sus to bring stncy thing and tease it if it is not going anywhere. and as much as i see it as an 'evidence' for jncy, them staying together and holding hands in the last shot is not enough of a narrative proof to say that they will end the show being a couple.

this stncy thing and teasing it would be pretty much nonsensical and unnecessary if it is not going anywhere is what im saying at the end of the day. bc they had the capacity to make steve move on in s3 when he's said he's over nancy, and there was no point of showing nancy's 'sort of attraction' towards steve in this season and leaving it ambigous. xDDD? i am sorry at the end of the day but the writers legt things that way and stncy happening is an actual possibility as well as the single!nancy route, and thinking jncy is 100% endgame just bc of that last shot is negating the overt narrative and how their relationship has been portrayed in s3-s4.

i think the stncy thing and teasing it can still makes sense even if they don't get back together. the thing though is what would steve even get from getting back together with nancy. is "giving" him the girl who got together with the guy she really wanted to be with while steve was buying flowers and planned on apologizing as a reward for becoming a better person much of a reward. lol

#plus yeahh they're men but i don't think they're that stupid. not saying men are inherently stupid #it's just that giving the redeemed character his former gf back (whose arc is in part about not being with him and guys like him) #would be misogynistic. #tome #this isn't me being anti-nancy and saying ohh steve deserves so much better than her she was horrible!!! because i grew up and can now see #the bigger picture and am no longer like steve who focuses entirely on the 'like we're in love' part of nancy little it's bullshit speech #it's just that they're so incompatible thinking about them ending up together hurts #this is just surface-level #but like yeah why does he want to be with her so bad anyway #like you said it's such a regression which makes sense in the you're supposed to feel like you lost season i guess #but like yeah steve stans lost the most because the writers also. don't seem to care about him that deeply despite his excessive screentime #so weird #ask