#casual fans dont

[learn-and-accept]

I think the most annoying part about all of this watcher shit is that if they had just originally said they'd be releasing content earlier and ad-free on their own website, none of this would've happened. Like sure maybe people would be a little bit upset/disappointed they couldn't afford to see things earlier, but at the very least they wouldn't have completely obliterated their reputation and ostracized their fan base. They just went about this in such a shitty and demeaning way and I'm glad they apologized and backpedaled, but I sincerely don't know how they come back from this, especially after it took them three days to respond. I don't know how their audience will ever be able to trust them again

#im really glad they listened amd apologized and didn't double down but holy shit guys #you employee 25 people but clearly none of them are in pr because my god i dont even know how this idea made it past a pitch #you guys are nowhere near the level where this could even begin to be a good idea #and tbh the apology feels weird and insincere and so fucking scripted #it just never needed to be this way #and i dont think fans that were once so loyal are going go ever trust you guys again #i mean fuck ive been a fairly casual fan since the buzzfeed days and even i feel betrayed #i cant imagine how people who spent money on merch and tours and patreon or made fan art or submitted stories feel #it's just so disappointing #anyway good luck i guess #watcher

[iamthekarmapolice]

sorry but i love meta, multiple layers of narrative, authors being characters in their own stories shenanigans too much. sam lake is right if i wrote a story i would probably also have my characters kill me in ritual murder too

#imagine if you played alan wake 2 without knowing that alex casey is played by sam lake #like i feel like thats unlikely but if you're a casual fan and you dont know this it must make the game so much less rich #i feel like they should tell you in the main menu just so no one goes in without knowing #alan wake

[carnivalcarriondiscarded]

You are literally one of the only reasons I'm still partially in the WH fandom /pos

🫡 just doin' my duty sir

#no but fr dont feel pressure to like... Stay #when the interest fades the interest fades! there's no shame in that <3 #rambles from the bog #honestly im not sure if i consider myself... In it really? #what constitutes being In A Fandom! #like... im a fan. i create. but i try not to be... Involved? if that makes sense? #i like to stay in my carefully curated corner and ignore the 'fandom' at large #its none of my business! #i just want to do my own thing and Enjoy this wonderful project! #what everyone else does is! again! none of my business <3 #dont wanna get involved dont wanna be Perceived #sometimes i look at my follower count and feel the urge to fire rent lowering gunshots #and its like... honestly i feel relief that my aus arent like??? Big? #i like that theyre casual! closed-circle! #just fun little side things that arent serious or widespread #i will continue to stay in my corner and simply have a good time #i love not being aware of drama <3 being online is so peaceful <3 block button & filters my beloveds <3

[sillycathorrors]

WILL WOOD WILL WOOD WILL WOOD WILL WOOD WILL WOOD WILL WOOD WILL WOOD WILL WOOD WILL WOOD WILL WOOD WILL WOOD WILL WOOD WILL WOOD WILL WO

#im actually LOSING MY MIND /pos #so ive had a bit of a will wood hyperfixation lately #and i was on call with my friend and mentioned i listen to him (we were talking about my search history. dont ask) and it was casually and #then my friend starts calling me out for listening to him by (just gently) teasing me on my mental state for listening to him and how his #music is mostly just screaming (sorta true) #so then i go on a rant #40 mins later ive played I/Me/Myself (a beginner will wood staple) AND skeleton appreciation day (one of my faves) also done the dishes #and made a 1hr 28min playlist made of entirely will wood/will wood and the tapeworms for my friend #and info dumped A LOT #so uh yeah #autism moment #will wood #will wood and the tapeworms #wee woo #im literally lying against the kitchen floor #i’ve encountered a second hand vanity #im an autistic baby strapped to a ceiling fan #and ive learnt to torture house cats like vultures

[petribread]

JOHN WARD!!!!!!

#art #drawing #illustration #fan art #visual art #traditional art #color pencil #john ward #faith #faith game #faith the unholy trinity #i dont think casual wear john is accurate to canon but i just wanted to draw him with a cool outfit #lol it says midnight Bib studies

[dayurno]

my advice for anyone whos growing more and more frustrated with the state of aftg and fandom at large is that arguing is fun but you need to be happy. ok. you need to. its hard when bad faith takes are dropped to your doorstep but you need to be happy and enjoy yourself and have fun or there's no point in anything at all ever. ok. fandom is not real and nothing is worth more than your enjoyment. i love you please make sure to have fun and reach out to a friend today. for me

#this goes doubly for fans of color if i'm honest #i say this bc a lot of my mutuals either currently or in the past have been very upset about how the fandom acts #and ive Done My Rounds with that ok #ive survived great wars even. and they did not make me happy #yes i was right and yes i should have said it but ultimately there was no material harm to choosing to have fun instead #lifes hard as it is in the real world where real things happen why would you waste your precious fun time on fighting crusades #and trust me i understand deeply the wish to fight crusades. Ive Fought Them. it got me hate mail and #an overall loss of passion for something i held sincerely in my heart #theres nothing more worthy than your enjoyment im serious. none of this is real and the world is hard out there #you need to get a good thing while u can #i dont remember a single time where ive actually felt vindicated by arguing with people online about. anything really but even more so aftg #but i remember in perfect and fond detail every time the (now defunct) kandreil discord server came up with an au #or even just normal casual conversation #i remember asks i got years ago about kevin day hcs that i hardly even agree with now but still love #trust me you will Not remember these squabbles what you will remember is what you loved and if youre lucky thats a lot of memories #so have fun ok. for me #txt

[sonknuxadow]

genuinely i dont think there needs to be a big extended sonic movie universe. i think 3 movies and a spinoff miniseries are enough. we do not need a bunch of sequels and spinoffs introducing all the characters and adapting every game . to be clear this wasnt prompted by any specific news i was just thinking about it

#and i say this as someone who LIKES the sonic movies btw #theyre not perfect theres some parts that i dont care for (like. the stuff with cops. sonic and friends dont like cops what are you DOING) #but i do for the most part find them to be a fun watch #however . we dont need a 4th one . please #i dont even get the point of adapting the entire game series like the games already exist just go play those #do people think that live action adaptations are an inherent improvement deserving of more respect or something ? #also just look at the mcu. its a mess thats literally impossible for the average viewer or casual marvel fans to keep up with #id hate to see the sonic movies turn into that even if im a dedicated sonic fan that would be able to keep up with it #now that i said this the third movie is probably gonna have a post credits scene #thats jusr silver showing up and going ITS NO USE !!!!!!!!!!!!! or some shit teasing a 4th movie

[p2ii]

cringe culture isnt dead (yet), we've just mildly expanded the amount of things that arent considered cringe anymore (largely because they're old enough that they can be viewed as nostalgic now) and have created a blurred line on which if you enjoy that media there has be a certain number of layers of irony involved for you not to be considered cringe. fucking exhausting.

#cringe culture is dead has to include EVERYTHING. even the things /you/ personally dont like. things /you/ consider 'bad enough' to #'actually desearve it' #yes that means homestuck. casual/past fans AND presant super obsessed fans. fans who are 'annoying' about it. fans who take it seriously. #fans without a molecule of irony in their enjoyment #it means mha and creepypasta and eddsworld and myct and homestuck and fucking EVERYTHING #no exceptions #yes this is mainly about the spiderverse/homestuck post. absolutely disgusting behaviour #psii.txt #cringe culture #cringe culture is stupid #homestuck positivity #idk if thats a tag #but im genuinly fucking sick of some peoples attitude towards it. ppl are taking it wayy to far #yes its hometsuck. yea its funny to joke and laugh and groan abt it. but fans are people who do actually enjoy it. be compassionate #behind every post there IS a person

[declanwidow]

juliet and angel: omg jowan is so real and those two guys we don't know are in loveeee

mac who came along to try and get a date w a cute girl: uh...... are they? you guys believe that?

and then immediately after angel asserting that she would take a bullet for them like mac i get u

#literally imagine being a casual fan of someone and then ending up here........ and see this is why mac isnt bad #too normal for a boyband fan and he will be punished for it #bliss..... u dont get it... hes not reading gay smut ff ab ur boyfriend... #iwbft #iwbftreread

[jinxed-ninjago]

i might start collecting screenshots that are basically "ninjago has always been this way" so that when people inevitably start complaining about dragons rising being too progressive (because i actually saw those complaints about seabound and crystalized about the exact things you think the complaints were about) i will have an entire folder on my computer for ammunition of "did we watch the same show. you know the show where one of the main characters put on a dress and wig to lure a samurai into saving him from a train in episode 5 and another one of the main characters comes from a family of dancers and that episode feels like he's coming out as gay. that show"

#lego ninjago #ninjago #ive said it before and ill say it again: you cant be a homophobic ninjago fan #undercover crossdressing not entirely played for laughs? yeah thats there #smashing of gender roles in nya (and later pixal) being a samurai and cole and lou being dancers which is traditionally feminine? yep #ninjago has ALWAYS been inclusive and not into gender stereotypes in one way or another and i don't think people realize it lol #OH YEAH AND COLE'S BELT IN HIS CASUAL/CIVILIAN DESIGN PRE-SEASON 8 IS PINK. IN 2012. #frankly ninjago was never for people who want to say 'this is wrong why are you doing this' to people who dont fit society's standards #i love the idea of having a folder on my laptop to prove that lmao

[natjennie]

watcher announcement is insane. I don't have anything insightful or important to say but like. whoaoahh that's crazy.

#like i dont have any business knowledge i have no idea #but a new streaming service seems like a bad idea #like maybe pushing the patreon and cutting back a little on lower performing shows would be more effective but? #i mean if its between content they Want to Make and content to please advertisers like. i get that thats a hard decision. #but i think financially it's gonna end up backfiring because no one in their audience is gonna buy another subscription #and like. fan loyalty wise i think it's not smart because a lot of people dont want high quality production value #they want down home casual youtubers. #i guess its emblematic of all of capitalism though right- #no one can just be satisfied with stability and success #they have to go for growth. #but if you've already reached all the people you're gonna reach and you keep angling for more eventually you're gonna- #surpass what the people that like you want to / are able to keep up with #anyway. that's crazy. #watcher #watcher entertainment

[sunmisbf]

i think once a group has 6 members they’re already pushing it like there’s no reason for groups to have 7+ why is the boyz literally a starting 11 they’re ready for a match at any time 😭

#i dont mean this in a hating way btw i am a casual fan of them #but i’m watching the lipgloss mv n there’s no reason for that many men to be here #n why is there a white girl w green eyes in this video n why is chanhee fighting over her😭 #.txt

[mistergreatbones]

The other day me and my parents were chit chatting about Star Trek and I made fun of them for being such geeks they already knew Spock’s mother was a human and they were like “that’s just common pop culture knowledge, even people who didn't watch the show know that”. They're literally that one meme wait hold on.

Literally this.

#no most people do not know what a tribble or that Kirk and Uhura was the first biracial kiss or that Bones’ real name is McCoy #actually the average non-Trekkie probably doesn’t know who Bones is at all #star trek tos #star trek #and these are just casual fan stuff! a real Trekkie could tell you lore that would completely fly over their heads! #trekkies #there are people who dont know what a mind meld is and THAT melts my mind #bones' bitching hours #i fixed the tags based on that one person's comment :)

[daisybell-on-a-carousel]

I think it's really funny that most of my issues w dp×dc fics would be immediately resolved if they were about Dan instead of Danny

(No hate to any fics that do these things btw I am just so so picky)

Jack and Maddie being awful irredeemable people? Not a risk if the fic is about Dan since he doesn't associate with them. If he did catch their ire (pre-agit) he probably genuinely did kill and replace Danny like some write the Fenton's believing

Ooc Danny who's too violent and fine with murder? That'd work wonderfully with Dan

I don't mind it but I don't care for ghost king Danny. However ghost king Dan honestly isn't that much of a leap considering he does canonically have Fright Knight working for him

-OP because he's ghost king Danny, Dan already canonically can make his own ghost portals, and could make himself appear on Valerie's watch and presumably other tech, and can duplicate, and electrocute, so on and so forth

Going to a Wayne Gala or whatever with Vlad? Works well with Danny but works incredibly well with Dan

Anyway basically what im saying here is I want to read Dan fics all the time

Bonuses, that I think are cool rather than being related to my grievances

Dan can look like his 14yr human and ghost self. And I still choose to believe he can look like his true self (as well as being able to appear as 24yr human Danny 🤔)

Honestly I don't think Dan would bother with a human identity unless forced. Maybe he needs to stay in it for an amount of time in order to stay grounded and not cease to exist bc his timeline is gone

If in the same dimension, Dan could easily know all the heroes identities, at least, know their real faces. He probably unmasked them after killing them just to see

I tend to imagine the JL w this one but Dan AND Danny being in DC is great too. I wonder how they'd explain the Dan situation. Dan could just say he's from an erased timeline. Or see how long he can convince others he's Danny's older brother or father or uncle or something

I think a plot could either be Dan just being a dramatic smug bastard OR Dan slowly learning how to heal and accept his emotions and let others in his life and become better for the people around him even if unintentionally. Or both. Especially both.Imagine.

#dpxdc #dp x dc #ask to tag #another thing abt dpxdc... why when not the jl are we always putting danny in Gotham. its very fun i admit. but the other heros have lives #too. i dont see any of them #kinda miss the tt fics from back in the day too #anyway this is just me rambling dont take me too seriously #dan phantom #id try to write something like this myself but i consider myself to far too casual of a dc fan to write fic

[allylikethecat]

Omg, also a TS fan since debut and I massively took a step back from her personally prior to the reputation era because of her antics and victim complex. The music will always mean so so much to me, her lyrics mean so much to me, but her actions as a person and TS™️ as an entity is just weird and greedy. I think she accrued a lot of fans when she disappeared for a while who've completely constructed a narrative in their heads of who she is and they believe it and are eating up this current era, but those who've been here a long time know how PR and image driven it is. Exhausting.

I apologize in advance I have been having way too many feelings about this whole situation and how it relates to my identity as a 28 year old woman and you are about to get an oversharing novel in response lol

Also, I guess CW: this post is about Taylor Swift and if anyone sends me any kind of hate or whatnot related to my own personal opinions and feelings I will be deleting it because I am NOT playing that game.

My Aunt bought me the Debut album CD at a concert after seeing her open for Rascal Flatts. She was like "I thought that you would like her!" and she was RIGHT Taylor Swift became my entire personality. One of my FAVORITE core memories as a child was the day Fearless came out. For some reason we didn't have school, and my Mom and I watched Taylor on the Ellen show, and then we went to Target and bought the physical CD, we then drove around town so we could listen to it together. My mom hasn't been well and that is one of my favorite memories of us together. It's silly but when you're in middle school that kind of thing is important to you. Then in high school I actually got MADE FUN OF for wearing Taylor merch and being excited about Red. BUT I loved her music and felt like she actually stood for something, so I brushed it off and continued to be a HUGE Swiftie. I had the Taylor Swift dolls, I had the perfumes, I had the LOVE LOVE LOVE bracelet, I had the sundresses from WALMART. I saw her on the Fearless and 1989 tours, I had the fucking 1989 haircut. I was supposed to go to Loverfest.

I was still a HUGE Swiftie during the post 1989-pre Reputation eras, then the Reputation era. I'm a few years younger than her, but I felt like I could relate to the kind of manic panic that she was sharing with us (lol turns out I was just unmedicated and we're doing much better now). It felt (in my probably naive mind) like she was experiencing the same insecurities that I was and reacting accordingly. Was she playing the victim at times? Oh 100% BUT I also fully believe that she thought she was one. (Plus... Kim is my least favorite Kardashian lol)

I LOVED the Lover era even as it was shit on at the for the sunshine rainbow hyper colorful aesthetic. Like, I don't know if new fans realize but when Lover was released? It was NOT as beloved as it is now. Then Folklore and Evermore were absolute genius, it felt like Taylor had grown up, and she got all of these new fans, which was great! She was in an "adult" relationship and her music and publicity choices seemed to reflect that. It was so refreshing to see a celebrity keeping their personal life, personal, and sharing what they wanted to share through music. Midnights broke all kinds of records, again, amazing! Even if it wasn't as strong as say Folklore. I fought for my life and got Eras Tour tickets (opening weekend!!) I had the BEST TIME EVER.

Taylor has always been extremely calculated with her public image. She was over exposed during The 1989 era and the public turned on her, so I truly cannot figure out why she is doing it again 100x in this new era of whatever the fuck this is. I don't know her, maybe she is legitimately happy, or maybe this is a cry for help. But I have been so grossed out by her behavior lately, and how in your face everything is with Kelce. It's no secret that I hate Kelce (and people that know me IRL know that it's not a new Taylor related thing lol) and if she actually loves him, fine, that's great for her, BUT we don't need to see it! Yes she was public when she was dating Calvin but ALSO she was what 25-26? She's a 34 year old woman now with the biggest platform of any celebrity ever. She feels too old (and this is not me age shaming her because I would be grossed out if my friends were doing it, and I would be embarrassed if *I* were to ever do it) to be licking a man's face in public like this. This feels like sorority girl in her first college relationship (I was *in* a sorority for a hot second so this isn't hate on sorority girls either!) and not record breaking Grammy award winning artist. ALSO I feel like she used to come across as so articulate and well spoken? Controversial opinion but I thought she sounded like a fucking idiot in that Time Person of the Year piece.

I think that this whole thing is PR for something, but because it just feels too icky to be real, but I don't know what it's PR for, (trying to bury the Matty situation from May? Because if so that just makes me even more sad for him or trying to get back at Joe? Which if that's the case, I feel bad for him too and she's even more immature than I thought) and now, for the first time, AFTER SIXTEEN YEARS I'm embarrassed to be a fan of her, both because of her own actions and also the actions of her fanbase as a whole.

It feels really weird, and I know I'm being parasocial about it, but when the times got bad I always had her music to fall back on and now I just, I don't know it feels cheapened somehow because the current image that's being crafted doesn't match the one that we originally fell for. And you know what, people change, she's a celebrity, I don't know her, what she does DOES NOT affect me any way, and how I feel does not AFFECT HER in the slightest, and I know it's being parasocial but I feel like a big part of me is in mourning about it. Less because of her changing her image so drastically, and more so because I feel like I'm mourning the loss of childhood and joy that used to be associated with her music for me and I think that's what's making me the most sad.

I have Eras tour tickets for one of the London dates this summer. I'm probably going to still go, because I paid for them, and I also have tickets to see Noah Kahan that same week in London (... and also the Longines tour has ALSO decided that the London stop is that week...) But I don't consider myself a "big fan" anymore. Maybe I will be one day again, but this current image that she's putting out just isn't it for me.

Sorry for the longest Taylor related novel in existence, I have had a lot of bottled up feelings about this that feel ridiculous typing out and sharing out loud BUT I know I will feel better sending them into the interwebs and your ask was the perfect catalyst.

Thank you so much for sending this in and for your continued support! I hope you continue to enjoy my fics and my secret sports hot takes 😂

❤️Ally

#allylikethecat #ask ally #anon ask #keep it kind #i am so sorry this got so long #i just started word vomiting and couldnt stop #then i started crying thinking about my mom #and yeah anyway i am 100% sober just dramatic lol #dont worry i will still be working on you know where the city is #Fictional!2014/2015 taylor has not made me sad lol #and i know it doesnt matter or actually impact me and its super parasocial and probably not healthy that im sad about all of this #BUT i love projecting my feelings and shit onto other things #and why deal with the ~other trauma~ in my life #when i could just... be bummed out about taylor swift turning into a trashy hoe instead of the poet we thought she was #BUT IN IMPORTANT AND EXCITING NEWS #the way i am so hype for this beyonce country album #im not even a beyonce stan #i dont even know if i would go as far as saying im a casual fan #but 16 carriages is so good #and im so excited to see what the rest of the album has in store #also please be nice to me im being vulnerable on the internet #because i am too stubborn to be vulnerable in real life #... there is a 75% chance i am going to panic delete this later but oh well here it is

[lokh]

yes i draw one piece. yes i read fic. yes i do both of these so much that i dream about one piece. no i havent read/watched it and i never will. do i go here

#like sitting in on a class u dont attend at uni.... #op fans r following me on twitter and im scared 😭😭😭 #like no dont... dont rxpect things from meeee #ive watched opla. and thats it #personally i dont think this counts as Going Here but im realising that like. #functionally at this point i might be indistinguishable from an actual (possibly just casual) fan #at least. hmm 70%? of my continued interest is the desire for zoro to get railed LMAO