#chaff

[lost-in-beacon-hills]

Someone has probably already pointed this out but mentoring is hell. When Snow and all the other kids get assigned to being a mentor for the games they all end up falling for their tribute in a way. Or at least most of them do. They develop soft spots for them. Snow falls for Lucy Gray. Lysistrata fell for Jessup. Even Juno shows remorse over Bobbins death. Nearly all these capitol born children find out when mentoring that the kids they watch die are actually people.

At nearly every turn in the ballad of songbirds and snakes you see all capitol born citizens get personally involved with them. And when they inevitably lose them they all become different. It changes who they were. Each of them gets a little more convinced that their kid isn't district. Snow even pushes the idea that Lucy Gray is practically capitol. Within the mentoring they all view their tribute as the exception. The one that doesn't belong to a district. Their tribute is always better or smarter or kinder than the rest. A few of them even get saved by their tribute. The tribute didn't have to do it but they did. So to them they can't possibly be from a district.

Making the victors mentor the children from their own district is fucked in a lot of ways. Every year they are forced to get close to another kid, knowing their families back home are depending on them to do their best to bring them back. They try their damnedest to save them but the odds aren't always in their favor. It takes away the opportunity for their capitol citizens to humanize them while making them isolated on all sides. They don't want the capitol citizens getting too close because if they do then they'll realize these are people. They allow the winners to go home while being the richest in the district. In twelve, we see that everyone is starving while Haymitch is fine. This helps isolate the victors even more.

Who would want to look at their winner when people are dying and they are doing perfectly fine? Who would want to look at the person that didn't bring your child home? They may know the capitol is to blame but the mentor always shares that responsibility in their mind.

It's part of the punishment for the victors too. It's not enough to force them into prostitution and sex slavery. You need more than bodily control over them to keep them broken and beaten down.

The capitol does such a good job at isolating and punishing victors. You're forced to mentor a child every year that you may or may not know. Half of them are already dying or too weak to fight back and yet you are their only chance of survival. You have to be willing to forgive your fellow mentors for the actions of their tributes because they are the only ones who will ever truly know the hell of losing everything. They are the ones that understand the hate from all sides. The victors are hated by the president, their own districts (outside of the career districts but they have their own fucked problems) and by the kids they have to shepard to death.

Snow's games is designed to make them view the other districts as the enemy and for the most part it works. They want the victors to hate each other but by having control over everything else all they are left with is each other. Even if they wanted to hate each other there would be no point. They have no one else. Their games change them. No one back home is able to pick up their pieces.

In bosbas he reflects that all the capitol mentors now are bonded. It's a club with an unbreakable connection. I think he saw how dangerous it was to let their citizens be too close and just how painful it was to do that job. Imagine being one of the few like Haymitch that had 20+ years of failure to haunt them with a district full of children blaming them for the losses.

#everlark #hunger games #thg #ballad of songbirds and snakes #bosbas #coriolanus snow #president snow #haymitch abernathy #enobaria #brutus #johanna mason #finnick odair #lucy gray baird #district twelve #gloss #cashmere #wiress #beetee #chaff #mentoring #panem #katniss everdeen #peeta mallark

[kald-dal-art]

I know Chaff by sight cause I've spent years watching him pass a bottle back and forth with Haymitch on television.

Can’t believe it taken me this long to draw Haymitch, anyways love the friendship between him and Chaff, wish we saw more of it 🥲

#the hunger games #hunger games #thg #haymitch abernathy #thg haymitch #chaff #thg chaff #catching fire #thg catching fire #artists on tumblr #fan art #thg fanart #hunger games fanart #the hunger games fan art #digital art #procreate #illustration #digital drawing #victors

[reality-detective]

Do you know what "Chaff" is? You may want to listen to this 12 minute video. 🤔

#pay attention #educate yourselves #educate yourself #knowledge is power #reeducate yourself #reeducate yourselves #think about it #think for yourselves #think for yourself #do your homework #do some research #do your own research #ask yourself questions #question everything #chaff #government corruption #you decide #Youtube

[nourtarts]

part 2 of my thg character designs! some of the victors from catching fire (finnick and johanna as promised). some of these slightly based on the movie!

#thg #the hunger games #finnick odair #mags flanagan #beetee #johanna mason #seeder #chaff #wiress #cecelia #annie cresta #odesta #catching fire

[kitkats-and-kittens]

Still on my Hunger games grind, so can we talk about the relationships I legit never see discussed?

I’m talking about the other victors and their relationships with each other. Like from the way they interact and what we hear about them in catching fire they are all clearly friendly, or as a bare minimum, tolerable with each other.

And although they seem to stick with making friends primarily within their own circle we have evidence that they do establish personal connections with each other’s outside of their district.

People like Haymitch and Chaff or Finnick and Johanna. Honestly it makes sense since the victors all have shared trauma and can understand what they’re all going through, but I need to know how and when this begins?!?!?

Like in Catching Fire Katniss clearly doesn’t like them, at least at the beginning, and of course it makes sense since she doesn’t know them and never gets the chance too because of the quarter quell, but knowing what they’ve all gone through I honestly felt so upset when her and Peeta were making fun of them.

Still, I wonder what their relationships with the victors would have been like had the quarter quell had been different. I don’t think Katniss and Peeta would have trauma bonded with them in quite the same way as other victors had, but I’m so sad they never got to see the other victors behind the persona the Captiol crafted for them.

Also speaking of newer tributes relationships with other victors, what I really want to see is Finnicks relationship with them. I mean he was the youngest presumably for a good few years since the way I’ve always seen it is 18/17 year olds win the most often for obvious reasons and every couple of years you might get a 16 year old with 15 year olds being extremely rare.

But like if they’re used to 16, 17 and 18 year olds who age into adults only a few years after their games then what was it like having a full on child running around the Capital with them for like 3 years?!?

Like okay maybe I’m reaching, but I feel like in mockingjay Finnick had a really close relationship with Beetee and Haymitch. I don’t want to say it was parental, but since they were both quite a bit older than Finnick when he won his games I think it would’ve been them, as well as Mags who kinda showed Finnick how to be a Victor and maybe even helped protect him since the Captiol was being so, well…Captiol.

Honestly the idea of the older victors all helping to mentor the younger ones on how to be victors is so sad but in like a bittersweet kind of way.

And Beetee making Finnick the trident to distract him from Annie while Haymitch tried to convince him not to do the propo has my whole heart.

If you couldn’t tell by this post the victors and their respective endings make me so sad.

#hunger games #katniss and peeta #katniss everdeen #peeta mellark #finnick odair #johanna mason #Chaff #haymitch abernathy #beetee latier #Victors #Capitol #The way they’re treated badly by the Capitol for being too district and badly by the districts for being too Capitol #I can’t #freindship

[cloversworldsblog]

A View from the Victors Lounge

For @lorata because I am completely obsessed with her District 2 multiverse and because the disparity between Victor Alec's experience and how the world might see him has been stuck in my head for years. Everything comes from her sandbox so probably won't make any sense to anyone who hasn't read that first.

Every outlier hates careers. 

It’s one of the things that binds every victor sitting in the lounge, watching with resignation and simmering rage as another one of Panem’s proudest psychopaths gets pulled out of the arena, hands still covered in the blood of eighteen children who didn’t choose to be there. 

Every outlier hates careers, but there are some they hate more than others and in that respect, everyone’s preferences are different. Whenever the topic comes up, as it inevitably does when Two takes the crown, there’s a debate over which type is worst. 

Callista is always a popular choice, especially among the Tens, who take her title as something of an insult to their district’s profession. 

‘They say she misses the blood,’ Angus will snarl into his seventh glass of some backwater moonshine he insists on bringing with him to the Capitol, ‘They’re all psychopaths but at least some of them leave that behind. She’d climb back into the arena tomorrow if it would give her the chance to torture another kid.’ 

‘At least she was born that way,’ Cora from Nine will counter; her own preference is drugs that make the world hazy but there’s a sharpness about her which never quite vanishes, a gleam in her eyes that makes Chaff sure she see the strings controlling them better than most, ‘It’s the ones that think it’s an honour or a duty that sicken me. They tell themselves they’re morally superior because they don’t enjoy it but really they’re worse than any of ones in it for the blood. Callista might be a true born psycho but she doesn’t think that everything she did was good or moral or forgivable just because she gave a clean kill to some twelve year old kid.’

(Cora had tried to attack Devon the first time he’d made some quip about how great tesserae was. Burt and Angus had had to drag her out of the Victor’s Lounge, frothing at the mouth and screaming threats she could never deliver on)

Chaff never participates in the debates; he’s never really cared whether they’re born that way or trained, not when they’re out there killing kids and laughing about it. Haymitch might get all philosophical, spouting all sorts of rubbish about them just being pawns in the game the Capitol plays but Chaff has never bought that. There’s always a choice and the careers, whether they were born wanting it or brainwashed into it, have never hesitated to make it. 

Chaff has always hated them all equally until the latest one raises his spear in triumph. For the first time since his own arena, he feels the pull of that bitter hatred that allowed him to cross the line from boy to killer. 

He hates this one most; District Two’s newest murderer, who stepped onto the stage and announced to the world that he was thrilled to be following in his brother’s footsteps. Who watched his brother die an agonising death in the arena and still wanted to kill kids so much that even his brother’s death didn't make him pause. Who sat in his interview talking about honour and his brother’s spirit cheering him on as though any of it was something to be proud of. 

Chaff watches him get bundled into the hovercraft and the rage builds up inside him, just like it did in the arena except this time there’s nothing he can do about it. He reaches for Teff’s bottle of rotgut and takes a long swig.

‘His daddy must be proud,’ he sneers, ‘Only took two sons to get them the victor they wanted.’ 

‘A family like that,’ Teff scoffs, ‘They’re probably gutted he didn’t follow in his brother’s footsteps and die for his country like a good little loyalist should. It’s the greatest honour after all,’ he raises his glass in a mock toast. 

Diana lets out a bitter laugh but Chaff doesn’t join in. He drinks and drinks and his anger stays at the surface, where it’s sat ever since last year’s victor gave that interview about playing tributes in the woods and dreaming of when they’d be able to live out those fantasies for real. 

‘Looks like he’s gonna sacrifice something,’ Angus slurs, as the feed switches over to footage from the Hospital, ‘No way they’re gonna keep the arm if it’s not better by interview. It’ll be just like it was with you.’ 

‘It’s nothing like me,’ says Chaff, his lips twisting into something ugly, ‘He’s a career; he deserves it.’ 

#District 2 #OC: Alec Seward #Lorata #Lorataverse #Chaff #the hunger games #thg

[incorrecthungergamesquotes]

Chaff: So, wait, Trinket kissed you and you said “thank you”?

Haymitch: Yes.

Chaff: Well, that was very polite.

#source: gilmore girls #incorrect quotes #chaff #haymitch abernathy #ship: hayffie

[discipleofmothra]

Some Chaff for my Turnip28 force. These guys are a mix of Wargames Atlantic Digital Bavarian Infantry, Edo Period Peasants, and random Arms and heads that I liked over the ages. I really like the straw cloak bits from the Edo peasants, they really add a nice flair while being thematic to the setting.

#turnip 28 #turnip28 #turnip tuesday #Chaff #tabletop wargaming #wargaming #miniature painting

[heavensbeehall]

Johanna Mason

Johanna Mason. From District 7 Lumber and paper, thus the tree. She won by very convincingly portraying herself as weak and helpless so that she would be ignored. Then she demonstrated a wicked ability to murder. She ruffles up her spiky hair and rolls her wide-set brown eyes. "Isn't my costume awful? My stylist's the biggest idiot in the Capitol. Our tributes have been trees for forty years under her. I wish I'd gotten Cinna. You look fantastic."

So stylists do stay with Districts for a long time. I wonder which district was Tigris' while she was a stylist. (I have a headcanon it's 4 but no proof of that.)

While we wait for the elevators, Johanna unzips the rest of her tree, letting it drop to the floor, and then kicks it away in disgust. Except for her forest green slippers, she doesn't have on a stitch of clothing. "That's better." We end up on the same elevator with her, and she spends the whole ride to the seventh floor chatting to Peeta about his paintings while the light of his still-glowing costume reflects off her bare breasts. When she leaves, I ignore him, but I just know he's grinning. I toss aside his hand as the doors close behind Chaff and Seeder, leaving us alone, and he breaks out laughing.

It makes me a bit sad Haymitch isn't in this version of the scene, but maybe Chaff told him about it.

#chapter 15 #johanna mason #chaff #seeder #haymitch abernathy

[allovesthings]

I was thinking of the third quarter quell and the tributes who knew about the rebel plan and how they would maybe have a better state of mind while entering the arena than what they had the first time around ?

Because they are not going in to kill each other but to protect the youngest victors in the arena, who are still children (and still of age to be reaped) and there is at least a chance, if they can survive long enough, to be rescued alongside Katniss.

Maybe not for everyone, but for Mags or Chaff or Seeder or even Cecelia who is a mom, they've seen children die, as mentors and finally having a chance to go into the arena and save at least, those two children might have been a relief.

#the hunger games #mags flanagan #thg #chaff #seeder #cecelia

[cashmeresglimmer]

Something about all of the victors relationships with each other really gets to me but there's one underrated one that really hits hard.

Haymitch and Chaff we know they were drinking buddies for years. We know about Chaff refusing a prosthetic, refusing to hide what damage the games what damage the Capitol did to him. Did his loved ones pay the same price for his rebellion as Haymitch's and Johanna's did for theirs? Was that part of the reason they bonded so much? Is that another reason why Haymitch was so protective of Katniss after the games, why he fought tooth and nail for her not to be surgically altered in anyway so that she wouldn't have to fight and wouldn't be forced to do so to protect her family?

We learn that Chaff died just minutes before Katniss took out the forcefield of the arena, that he might've made it, had it not been for Brutus. We don't know the exact circumstances of the fight between them or the exact details that follow but we do learn that Peeta is the one who then kills Brutus. Peeta throughout the series is responsible for four deaths; the girl from district 8 in the first games (the careers had already injured her, he essentially ended her suffering so that she wouldn't have a long and painful death and so that the careers namely Clove wouldn't torture her more before killing her), Foxface (a complete accident on Peeta's part. In the books she's severely emaciated and starving and neither of them know that the berries Peeta picked are poisonous. In the film there's an implication that it's a suicide as we see Foxface study plants in the training center in earlier scenes before they enter the arena), Mitchell (Peeta was highjacked and was in no way, shape or form in control of his actions) and Brutus. Brutus is the only person Peeta intentionally kills (apart from the girl from 8 but she was slowly dying as a result of her wounds already inflicted upon her), did he see Brutus kill Chaff and immediately go to avenge Chaff for Haymitch? And if Peeta hadn't fought with Brutus, would he have been rescued along with Katniss, Beetee and Finnick? Is that another reason why Haymitch tells Katniss that he can't believe she let Peeta out of her sight that night? Because had they found each other when they were calling for each other in the arena before Peeta crossed paths with Chaff and Brutus and before Katniss destroyed the forcefield, would Peeta have been rescued too? It would add a whole nother level to the devastation to his failure to get them both out too. Peeta and Haymitch's relationship after the first games is so underrated but it's one of my favorites dynamics, one that I didn't appreciate until my most recent reread. While Haymitch and Katniss are much more similar and understand what the other is saying/meaning without having to verbalize anything, we do see himself and Peeta bond, not just as team but we truly do see him (and Katniss) become the closest things Haymitch has to family. Katniss notes that it's common knowledge that Haymitch and Chaff were friends, that they've been seen drinking together throughout the years during the televised clips of the Victors and of the mentors while the games are unfolding, so even without the countless days the trio spend together accessing their fellow victors, Peeta would've been aware of their closeness. Haymitch losing his friend and failing to save another mere moments apart is gut wrenching and adds to the tragedy.

#the hunger games #hunger games #haymitch abernathy #chaff #catching fire #quarter quell #peeta mellark #katniss everdeen #i have so many thoughts but I'm struggling to get them out properly

[danskjavlarna]

Source details and larger version.

#chaff #wheat #vintage illustration #illustration

[odairfilm]

QUESTION/DISCUSSION

Do you think the 3rd Quarter Quell was originally designed with the intention to suit Finnick the best? Like, was it designed with the hope that Finnick would be the victor of the victors?

#finnick odair #catching fire #hunger games #mockingjay #katniss everdeen #peeta mellark #the hunger games #mags flanagan #cashmere #gloss #brutus #chaff #seeder #annie cresta #everlark #coriolanus snow

[avesrinapproved]

I love the imagery of Katniss taking the 75th games so seriously and like just being in her own little mental state and the rest of the victors are just goofing off the whole time, especially the ones that know about the Rebellion or who to have nothing to return to. Just full were gonna die but all my friends are here so...

like chaff just throwing an axe and actually hitting the Target and just being like "holy shit did you see that?! I can't believe I fucking hit that! please tell me someone saw that!"

#the hunger games #headcanon #75th hunger games #Victors #Chaff

[whimsofavim]

Back at it on my 3 hour journey home!

#hunger games fanfiction #hayffie #haymitch abernathy #chaff #dfycw #hunger games #ballad of songbirds and snakes

[ellanainthetardis]

The Bartender

Chaff loved the kid like he was his own – or at least a younger annoying little brother – but sometimes he wanted to strangle him.

Today was one of those days.

Now, it didn’t take much to convince Chaff to go to a bar but nobody would have accused The Capitol of being the kind of joint he usually patronized.

Chaff liked his bars with some character, chaffed booths, dimmed lights, dubious looking bowls of peanuts, stained counters… That was where you found the best booze – and the easiest ladies.

The Capitol had none of that.

It had spotless gleaming mahogany surfaces everywhere, cozy little booths and tables that belonged more in a hip café or a tea parlor, bright lights that blinded you after a while – and too many glasses – and, more importantly, it had fancy cocktails with little umbrellas in them and unpronounceable names. And that was without mentioning the low bass of the pop music that made up the background noise.

READ MORE on ff or HERE on AO3

#hayffie #effie trinket #haymitch abernathy #prompt #chaff #thg modern au #not established #funny one #haymitch with feelings