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samsrowena · 2 years
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why on earth would they chain someone up like this
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jackexmachina · 1 year
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Dark Dynasty // “men! kiss each other.”
image description: scenes from “Dark Dynasty” (10x21) when Sam brings Charlie and Castiel to work with Rowena on decoding the book of the damned, paired with reblogs of a text post from illbeartheburdenofyourhatred
Rowena leans back in her chair, smiling at Castiel and saying, “More distractions?” / text from OP reads: [men kiss each other]
Castiel looks at Sam, but glances back at Charlie when she slaps his arm, saying, “That’s exactly what I said!” / text from OP reads: [i saw it on google inages]
Castiel shakes his head slightly, asking Sam, “Well, what are the rules?” Sam looks back at him questioningly. / text from ninjakittenarmy reads: [I thought this was a command.]
Rowena watches them and stage whispers behind her hand, “Don’t tell your brother what we’re doing!” / text from OP reads in large font: [men! kiss each other.]
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winchestress · 2 years
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hellerradio · 1 year
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These episodes feature two of our favorite SPN ladies…in drastically different ways. On the one hand, we get to see more of Claire in all her badass but vulnerable glory. And on the other, let’s just say we get pretty snarky about Charlie’s untimely and controversial ending. Rest in peace, queen. ⛳️
TW for discussions of death, homophobia, and Nazi mentions
➡️ Listen here!
Episodes discussed:
10x20 - Angel Heart
10x21 - Dark Dynasty
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i-isa-i · 2 years
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i still don’t understand why they had to kill Charlie like that
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deansamnatural · 1 year
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spnexploration · 1 year
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Dark Dynasty, 10x21
I'd been spoiled that Charlie dies, but God it was still tragic when it happened 😭
Why didn't Sam or Dean call Cas and get him to zap her out of there when she phoned and said she was in the motel?! He's a lot faster than driving!
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jacks-wack-attack · 2 years
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Sure, they said. Let's just kill off Charlie, they said. It will add some drama, they said. That won't make the audience literally sob for at least 10 minutes, they said.
She died and so did I. Goodbye forever.
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niko4now · 2 years
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Two episodes into my attempt to finish Supernatural and I see the infamous death of Charlie. Guess my instinct to quit was spot on.
Not only was it a dogshit episode overall but wtf was that death? Totally contrived, since maybe it’s just me but why the hell did Charlie go to the hotel??
And they didn’t even show us a cool fight, show Charlie go down swinging? She lost to some one-armed chump with major blood loss??
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StackedNatural Day 172: 5x21, 6x20, 9x21, 10x21
StackedNatural Masterpost: [x]
May 6, 2022
5x21: Two Minutes to Midnight
Written by: Sera Gamble
Directed by: Phil Sgriccia
Original air date: May 6, 2010
Plot Synopsis:
Bobby sells Crowley his soul in exchange for the location of Death, while Pestilence infects the Winchesters with a deadly disease.
Features:
A petri dish of diseases, Cas first experience with being human, Pestilence’s senior care facility, Cas cutting off Pestilence’s finger, Bobby’s soul belonging to Crowley, O Death aka the most kickass character intro possible, the sub-clause in Bobby’s contract, the distribution of Croatoan, an Angel with a Shotgun, Death’s eating habits.
My Thoughts:
This episode is where the pacing goes wrong in season 5, which is a shame because it’s so close to a slam dunk. We should not have had two horseman sharing an episode, especially not with Death as one of them. Death being markedly different from his siblings should merit him having an entire episode, even if the actual screen time he gets doesn’t change. 
Even though watching Pestilence on screen is Bad for me, the return to Croatoan as a plot point could have had more weight and we could have had more time to watch Sam be unambiguously good and strengthen Bobby’s point of view at the end of the episode. There are a couple episodes that could be tossed to split this one into two and give each horseman his due. Personally, my choice would be Swap Meat - it doesn’t have much bearing on the plot and it was my lowest ranked episode of the season. You could also do The Curious Case of Dean Winchester, which while funny has some distressing disability politics, or The Real Ghostbusters, whose only relevant plot point was learning that Bela gave the Colt to Crowley and not Lilith.
War’s episode can stay where it is, and while you could rearrange things a bit more to spread the horsemen out, I think the major issues are solved. 
Death’s intro kicks total ass. He steals every scene he’s in. I love when Reapers were freaky and just stood stock still facing whatever was coming next. The biggest bummer is that after Death’s line about reaping God, God doesn’t even die at the end of the series. 
Notable Lines:
“I'm saying that I am thirsty and my head aches. I have a bug bite that itches no matter how much I scratch it, and I'm saying that I'm just incredibly…” “Human.”
“You are not the burnt and broken shell of a man that I believed you to be.”
“Believe me, I know exactly how screwed up I am. You, Bobby, Cas...I'm the least of any of you.”
“To a thing like me, a thing like you, well...Think how you'd feel if a bacterium sat at your table and started to get snarky. This is one little planet in one tiny solar system in a galaxy that's barely out of its diapers. I'm old, Dean. Very old. So I invite you to contemplate how insignificant I find you.”
“I'm more powerful than you can process, and I'm enslaved to a bratty child with a temper tantrum.”
Laura’s (completely subjective) Episode Rating: 8.4
IMdB Rating: 9.3
6x20: The Man Who Would Be King
Written by: Ben Edlund
Directed by: Ben Edlund
Original air date: May 6, 2011
Plot Synopsis:
Castiel tells his story in his own words and confesses to some interesting choices.
Features:
Cas’ story, peak Crowley, Cas longingly looking at Dean while invisible, Bobby’s demon counterpart, smiting in the name of secrecy, Cas as God’s Chosen, teaching poetry to fish, Dean raking leaves, Cas’ sex appeal, the saddest ring of holy fire we’ve ever seen. 
My Thoughts:
This is my favourite episode of the entire series. In my head when I set my rating scale, it was Carry on on one end of the spectrum and The Man Who Would Be King on the other. There isn’t a single thing about this episode that I would change. 
Crowley is a master manipulator, succeeding even when Cas knows what he’s doing. The deal he offers is irresistible, and he plants the seeds that start a Heavenly civil war.
Dean shows more faith in this episode than we have ever seen before or since. He’s pulled a gun on his father, he’s locked Sam in a panic room, but even with every instinct and sign saying that Cas is dangerous, he can’t believe it until he’s presented with irrefutable proof and even then, he keeps trying to fix it. 
And Cas… this episode gets even better in retrospect. Not just because now, in canon, this is a tragedy of a gay love story, but also because we know for sure now that God is a writer. In praying to God to tell his story, he doesn’t just force his father into the role of audience member, he unintentionally puts himself in God, the original storyteller’s, place. And the choices he makes in this episode lead to the Godstiel arc. 
Notable Lines:
“I've been here for a very long time. And I remember many things. I remember being at a shoreline, watching a little grey fish heave itself up on the beach and an older brother saying, ‘don't step on that fish, Castiel. Big plans for that fish.’"
“the stench of that Impala's all over your overcoat, Angel.”
“The worst part was Dean, trying so hard to be loyal, with every instinct telling him otherwise.”
“It's simple. Freedom is a length of rope. God wants you to hang yourself with it."
“I believe it's what you would call a...Tragedy from the human perspective.”
Laura’s (completely subjective) Episode Rating: 10
IMdB Rating: 8.9
9x21: King of the Damned
Written by: Buckleming
Directed by: P. J. Pesce
Original air date: May 6, 2014
Plot Synopsis:
Abaddon makes a deal with Crowley to stop the Winchesters and recover the first blade. Castiel tries to bring Gadreel to his side in the war against Metatron.
Features:
Abaddon in the 1700s, Cas as commander, Gavin MacLeod and Crowley’s smidgeon of humanity, insecure weenie angels, collecting the First Blade, Abaddon’s death, 
My Thoughts:
For an episode about killing a seasons-long villain, I was remarkably bored the whole time. The theory is there - Cas becoming a commander again when the last time he marshaled forces in a civil war went so disastrously, Crowley being confronted with the human part of himself, Dean using the Blade - but it’s executed badly. I had neutral feelings the entire time except when I was being annoyed about how Buckleming write angels, which I will never stop complaining about. 
Angels should not be able to hang out in a bar and convincingly replicate humans hanging out. It gets rid of everything that makes them interesting. The contrast is glaring, having just recently watched The Great Escapist where they so clearly had thought patterns wildly different from ours. 
The Gavin thing is mildly uncomfortable and flirts with abuse apologism. Haha it’s so funny that Crowley beat his kid when he was human. It also makes the “smidgeon of humanity” thing less effective as a theme or plot device. If he didn’t give a shit while he was human the first time why would he give a shit when he’s only barely human now? I would rather see the dynamic where Gavin loved his dad and has to reckon with how different he is now that his soul is corrupted, but that humanity still comes through and saves his life. 
Notable Lines:
There was not a single one that I cared about tbh. 
Laura’s (completely subjective) Episode Rating: 3.9
IMdB Rating: 8.7
10x21: Dark Dynasty
Written by: Buckleming
Directed by: Robert Singer
Original air date: May 6, 2015
Plot Synopsis:
While investigating a strange murder, Sam and Dean discover the killer has the same tattoo as those from the Styne family; Castiel plays referee when Charlie and Rowena must work together; Crowley turns to an old enemy for help with Rowena.
Features:
Bogus eyesight studies, the Stynes harvesting body parts, some Microsoft product placement, Rowena and Charlie butting heads, the Winchesters lying to each other again, Crowley chatting with a hamster, Dean getting accosted while he tries to buy pizza, bioengineering, the indestructibility of the Book of the Damned.
My Thoughts:
I don’t think I need to say “Fuck Buckleming” here, but I will - Fuck them. 
Most of this episode is boring and most of what isn’t is dumb bullshit. The only thing I kind of liked was the scene where Rowena reads Charlie, but even that is more powerful if we’re going to see them together have some kind of dynamic shift, which we don’t. 
The Frankenstein twist is dumb and a human body can’t accommodate multiple hearts. The idea that a family of white douchebags caused the Arab Spring is insulting and racist, and there was no reason to include that in their backstory because it was a throwaway line. 
I understand intellectually the plot point of Charlie dying. Narratively, we need something to tip Dean over the edge to fully give in to the Mark of Cain, and a side character that they already have history with is the best way to do that. The problem is that her reason for dying so insanely stupid. She left the warded, protected room because Rowena was being annoying and she needed quiet? And she chose to do it at the moment when she was already getting what she needed because Cas had moved Rowena out of her space? Nothing you say will make me believe that Charlie didn’t own noise-canceling headphones. 
Her death scene was brave at the very least, I love her making the choice to send the information that can save her friend instead of giving it up to save herself, but it’s soured by the whole lead up to it. There were better ways to force her into a vulnerable position, but they had to choose the one that would make it Sam’s fault the most, rather than having Rowena trick her or something. 
Also, the title of this episode just makes me think of Duck Dynasty, which I know exclusively through annoying ass commercials I saw a lot of in High School.
Notable Lines:
“Let me tell you about you . . . a difficult and lonely childhood. Tragedy, absent parents. Always outside the mainstream. Sexually progressive. Living in your own head for solace and direction.”
Laura’s (completely subjective) Episode Rating: 2.2
IMdB Rating: 7.3
In Conclusion: ignoring the misery of a 2 Buckleming day, I saved 6x20 for last and I am riding that Bedlund high.
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hitchell-mope · 5 days
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WHOOHOO!!!! THAT USELESS BITCH IS FINALLY DEAD!!!!
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samsrowena · 2 years
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i think sam should've held his little secret "remove the mark" operation right under dean's nose in the bunker instead of in that distillery. i mean, sam having to come up with the most ridiculous reasons why dean can't go in the dungeon because he doesn't know rowena is chained up in there, dean getting hilariously paranoid because sam and cas are clearly sneaking around about something, charlie keeping sam's stress levels at 10000 because she feels so guilty about lying that she keeps almost spilling the beans (also since the bunker is safely guarded she doesn't get needlessly butchered), like i just feel like there's a lot of potential there and it would be hilarious to watch sam lose his mind as he's trying to get control of all this chaos to keep everything a secret AND watch dean lose his mind as he gets more and more confused about what the hell is going on
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mmaeeve · 3 months
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daily dean quote #19/366:
“well, there’s pretty much what we do know, that they screwed with financial markets, they helped hitler get started, along with god knows what else - probably disco.”
- season 10, episode 21, dark dynasty
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winchestress · 2 years
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nknovakwrites · 4 months
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Rowena, Charlie, and Sam
Did season 10 episode 21 of Supernatural come out in 2015? Am I still going to give my take on it? Yes. Why? I didn’t have tumblr then and I do now and I rewatched it a few weeks ago and an idea has been rolling around in my head for a bit.
So, in the episode (spoiler alert) Rowena and Charlie do not get along when they are forced to work together. Rowena drives Charlie to leave where she is found and killed. No one liked that. I know I didn’t.
Since I like both Rowena and Charlie I think it would be interesting if they didn’t like each other at first but throughout the episode started to get more interested in how the other one was using their skills to decode the book and by the end of the episode Rowena ends up taking Charlie on as a witch-in-training and mentors her in witchcraft. That way Charlie doesn’t die, Rowena becomes a good guy (which she ends up being by Season 15 anyway) and everyone is happy.
I would also like to add that in Season 15, I wouldn’t have Rowena die. I would have Samwitch join Rowena and Charlie’s coven of two.
I would watch a spin off that’s just Rowena and her two witch apprentices.
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liopleurodean · 7 months
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Season 10, Episode 21: Dark Dynasty
Yeah, Omaha! NEBRASKA REPRESENT!
Eye doctor?
Oh, poor girl
This is not gonna end well for her
Ew, that's a horrible way to do that
That's disgusting
That wasn't a very clean getaway
A mutual benefit
Fantastic
Yikes
He's trying to garner sympathy for screwing up a murder. This family is psycho
Liar
Rip this guy
Good luck with that
Ouch
They're all idiots
That hurts, Dean
Sam, you're a horrible liar
Great subject change
What's your beef with disco?
They've gone for less
The case will be gone by then
Secret meetings
About that...
Dean doesn't know anything
Charlie is the only one with common sense
Sooo I think this is the third Surface I've seen this season
Nice
Even better
Cas!
Someone not to mess with
Dean. And the Stynes
Cas is so done™
This is a trainwreck
At least they learned
Right...
For Dean!
Rowena 😂
That looks like fun
Of course there is
Crowley.
Everyone here is an idiot
Freaky
Definitely a Styne
Yeah, probably
Sam, you liar
Wow. That was really close
That was a horrible picture for translating purposes
But it's not synchronous
Aw, Cas!
Maybe they can work together!
Agnes. Agnes Nutter?
Spooky
And they're both redheads
Charlie...
Awww
I really don't want to think about that
Yeah. Right.
Just a normal Thursday
Uh oh
He looks kinda like Glen Powell
This'll be a great conversation
Cas.
Dean is concerned
Bad answer, Sam
Awkward...
He's. He's talking to the hamster
This is great
What did Crowley say to him earlier?
Idiots. They're all idiots
Ooh, Crowley, so close
Wow. That is so sketch, Dean
Aw, not the pizza! He just wanted food
This isn't gonna end well
Go for the head, Dean
Oh boy
Yikes
They're foreshadowing it so hard and I'm gonna cry
Charlie, no! Literally any other time, but not now!
Charlie...
That won't stop him
Natural enemies
Mm. Not as far as you think
They really went there
Making their own heroes
Oh boy
There it is
Sloppy stitches
Frankenstein. So original
Yup. Lame
Oh, Cas
Sorry, Dean
She did, but people don't believe
Ever heard of David and Goliath?
And he can find them
Hah! As if
Uh oh
That's not what he means
That didn't sound good
He chopped off his own hand
Ew, even worse
Yikes
Maybe she doesn't want kids
Hah! Cas doesn't know
Indeed it does
She dipped, didn't she
Dang it, Charlie!
He got pretty far for a guy with one arm
Oh no...
Sci-Fi alias, I like it
Nope
That's horrifying
Yeah...
And Dean is inclined to believe him
Sam...
Emergency. Right now
And this entire thing is Sam's fault. If he had just brought Dean in from the beginning -- man, that's Dean's little sister! That's his only source of joy since way back when there were Leviathans! This is horrible
Oh no
Hey! She did it!
That's horrifying
Dean, now is not the time! You have to go!
You shouldn't have left, Charlie
It won't stop them
I don't think I can watch
Charlie..!
AND NOW SHE WILL DIE, SAM!
Charlie, no!
They're too late
No...
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