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intpstyle · 1 year

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NPCs - INTJ & INTP

INTP: *is playing Fire Emblem: Three Houses*

INTJ: *is watching*

INTJ: ...

INTJ: ...so these NPCs always say the same thing, right?

INTP: Yeah, it's basically always "Wow, I love our pope Rhea so much" or "Don't you think Rhea is a little sus?"

INTJ: ...hmm.

INTJ: What would your NPC dialogue be, do you think?

INTP: If I were in the game?

INTJ: Yeah.

INTP: ...

INTP: *laughs*

INTP: I'd probably be the info-dump character. Every time the main character comes around, I'll tell them a new fact about the world, like, completely unprompted.

INTJ: *laughs*

INTJ: I could see that.

INTP: I'd be standing around in the library, always with a book in my hand -

INTJ: - and every time the player comes around, there are more and more books around your feet -

INTP: - and I look more and more tired -

INTJ: - and at some point, it's just a pile of books on the floor and you're completely buried and if you press "A" on the pile, your disembodied voice would still be like -

INTP: "Did you know that this one herb is really good for battle wounds? :D"

INTP & INTJ: *laugh*

INTP: What would yours be?

INTJ: ...hmmm.

INTJ: I think I'd be made to disappear.

INTP: What do you mean?

INTJ: You'd meet me in the hallway and, the first time, I'd just stealthily ask "So what do you think about Rhea?"

INTP: Ooooh, and then you get more and more obvious?

INTJ: Yeah, I think it'd escalate each time you talked to me. Like, from "I saw Rhea on the cemetery at midnight" to "Sometimes I feel like somebody's watching me while I sleep" to "I can't say too much - she's always listening - but ... be careful" and then -

INTP: Poof. You disappear.

INTJ: Exactly.

INTP: Ooooh, yeah. I could see that.

INTJ: ...

INTJ: ...I mean she IS really sus.

INTP: *laughs* Definitely.

#intj #intp #intj x intp #fe:3h #fire emblem three houses #rhea seehorn #mbti #cognitive functions #fire emblem #video games #gaming #ENTJ #entp #npcs

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atarahderek · 8 months

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The Hunchback of Notre Dame - MBTI

This is my typing of each of the main characters, sans the gargoyles. I'm only going to discuss one of them in detail here, but I'll touch on each of the others as well.

Let's discuss what makes Phoebus such a healthy example of the ESTP.

Dominant Se: extroverted Sensing

Phoebus, as he's presented by Disney, just wants to live each day as it comes. He doesn't want to dwell on the past or stress about the future. He goes where he's called, thinking that wherever that is, adventure lies in store for him. His calm, collected, almost carefree demeanor makes one wonder if this man really has been at war for 20 years. Whether he has or not, he has learned through it all not to take a single day for granted. Sure, he can be impulsive and is just a little bit of a womanizer (moreso in the stage musical, but still far less so than in the book), but he knows how to keep these weaknesses in check and even use them as strengths. He's not as good of a flirt as he likes to think he is, but he stays humble enough to admit that. His Se is very well developed and shows all of its best strengths and qualities, tempered just enough by inferior Ni to keep Phoebus from jumping into everything without at least knowing and accepting the consequences.

Auxiliary Ti: introverted Thinking

This function is what gives Phoebus his skill as a strategist, a talent he's received numerous commendations for. Whenever he's presented with a new puzzle, he immediately goes to work breaking it down and analyzing each bit of it. His Ti also gives him a sharp wit, which keeps him cracking jokes. For a seasoned veteran, this is partly a coping mechanism, and partly a means by which he tries to relate to civilians in peacetime. But Phoebus is generally careful not to take it too far. His Ti is healthy, and is well tempered by tertiary Fe.

Tertiary Fe: extroverted Feeling

Phoebus' Fe is where his strength lies, and is the function that demonstrates the health of his personality type. He is in his early to mid 30s, so his Fe is at the peak of its development. It is the empathy function, seeking to relate to everyone around and tap into what they're feeling and experiencing. Phoebus displays a growth and maturity of this function in the right position at the right time that every ExTP should seek to emulate--quite the contrast to Clopin. Phoebus uses his Fe to key into what the other characters are feeling and is able to respond to them appropriately for the situation. This allows him to immediately respect Esmeralda as a person, for all that he admires her as a sexy young woman. He can remain stoic in the face of Frollo's flagrant admission to genocide, and knows the right moment to put his foot down. He stays in his position as long as he can with the clear intention of tempering Frollo's orders issued in rage, hoping to control some of the damage that Frollo is doing. But he also will not compromise when he sees others being put in immediate harm's way for Frollo's own ego. And he doesn't even consider his own safety or life when running into a burning building to rescue children, knowing full well he will probably be executed for saving such young lives.

Inferior Ni: introverted iNtuition

Phoebus is still a bit young yet to begin developing his Ni. But despite this, Ni doesn't seem to trip him up much, and it complements his Se well, even in this underdeveloped state. As mentioned above, Phoebus does not do much of anything without at least knowing what the consequences could be. Ni makes him accept them. It allows him to roll with them, and to change directions on a dime when need be. It gives him the focus necessary to see everything he does through to the end. No doubt that when Phoebus does start to develop this function in earnest, the end result will be a very wise and well rounded ESTP, who will be able to coach the next generation to become the best of themselves as well.

Leading with Se can make Phoebus appear shallow to those who don't know him well, and initially he is. But because of the strength of his other functions, Phoebus is capable of getting very deep. And the thing about the healthy ESTP is, once he goes deep, he never resurfaces. That's what gives this type its loyalty. And this is the type of loyalty we see in Phoebus. As far as fictional ESTPs go, Disney's Phoebus de Chateaupers is the single best example one can get.

Quasimodo - underdeveloped INFP

Because of Quasimodo's sheltered upbringing, he does not have much opportunity to develop his functions. He's 20 years old and should be working on his tertiary Si, but he's barely been allowed to even venture into exploring his Ne. However, despite being brought up by Disney's unhealthiest INFJ, Quasi has managed to develop a rather healthy Fi, making him an idealist. He's able to develop something of a sense of self and a defining moral center, and this allows him to connect with fellow Fi-dom Esmeralda. Quasi also has a very active imagination. If we consider the gargoyles figments of his imagination, this tells us that despite being isolated in the bell tower all his life, Quasi has still managed enough exposure to other personalities to be able to craft extremely fleshed out characters to reside in his paracosm. He can consider a multiverse of possibilities, and it gives him an idea of what he believes a perfect world would look like. His stunted Si will make adjusting to the outside world difficult, but at his age, his Te should be relatively unaffected.

Esmeralda - Blossoming ISFP

Like Quasimodo, Esmeralda is quite the idealist, with a solid moral core that she will not compromise on. Unlike Quasi, she has had time to discover who she is, and she is firm in her identity as a Romni, vocally proud of her heritage. She takes each day as it comes and doesn't consider a multitude of what-ifs the way Quasi and other Ne users do. Her outlook on life is shaped by her auxiliary Se. She doesn't worry about the past or the future because each day has enough trouble of its own. She is busy developing her Ni, which has her focused on rolling with the punches and using obstacles to her advantage. She serves as a nice foil to Phoebus' ESTP, bringing out the best traits in his type. And she offers solidarity for Quasi, who leads with Fi just as she does.

Clopin Trouillefou - ENTP caught in a loop

Clopin's age in the film is unknown, but considering he's the Rom baro (i.e. chief) of his community, there's no possible way he's younger than 35 (which is insanely young for a Rom baro) and little chance he's younger than 45 (which is still awfully young). So we have to assume that he is at an age where he should at least have started developing his inferior Si, the guiding function. But Clopin has a bit of a problem: He's looping between his dominant Ne and tertiary Fe, with his Ti being diminished to the point that he's capable of some very dumb things (not that we're letting Phoebus off the hook for falling for Frollo's ruse, but to be fair to him, he was suffering from blood loss and a concussion at the time). The Ne/Fe loop causes a person to tap into the toxic aspect of their empathy, feeding off of and reciprocating the negative emotions in the atmosphere, focusing on all the negative possibilities, and actively looking to suck all the energy out of others in a very unhealthy fashion for all parties. Clopin is in danger of becoming the Romani version of Frollo, albeit an extremely extroverted version. Letting his Ti become diminished is why Clopin foolishly takes all his guards off the entrance after capturing Phoebus and Quasimodo, which of course makes Frollo's work that much easier, allowing him to take the Court of Miracles without a fight. Hopefully with the pressure Frollo put on the Roma now gone, Clopin can claw his way out of that loop and start using his Ti and Si in a healthy manner again. He really is quite clever when he's a healthy ENTP.

Judge Claude Frollo - INFJ who should have gotten a grip, but ended up in one instead

Frollo had so much potential, and it all got shot to hellfire. As an INFJ, he had the rarest type, especially for men, and one of the most potent of all the types. His focus and empathy should've been bar none. He should've been the confidant; the compassionate priest he started out as in the novel. But early in his career, he allowed himself to slip into a loop between his Ni and Ti, and he never got out of it. He considered himself intellectually and spiritually superior to all around him, and could list out every last little reason why. And then Esmeralda came along and unwittingly plunged him into the grip of his inferior Se. He would've ended up there eventually, but Esmeralda is the one who sent him over the edge. Se is the sensory experience function, and at Frollo's age he should've already developed it in a healthy fashion that would allow it to temper his Ni. Normally, Se helps Ni remember the needs of the flesh--food, water, rest, relationships, etc. It acts as a reward system for Ni's focus and ambition. But when the Ni-dom is caught in the grip of Se, Se is taking revenge for being neglected for so long. Now it's all about the flesh. It's all about what Se wants right now. And you can't escape. Enjoy your guilt, Frollo, because Se is gonna pile it on as part of your punishment.

#the Hunchback of Notre Dame #MBTI #Myers-Briggs Type Indicator #ESTP #Phoebus #INFP #Quasimodo #ISFP #Esmeralda #ENTP #Clopin Trouillefou #INFJ #Judge Claude Frollo #analysis #typology #cognitive functions

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just-a-narcissist · 7 months

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I thought I was an INTJ my whole life: I got that on 16personalities (though people have told me that it's not very accurate), and other online ones (that probably weren't very accurate either...)

But I took the Michael Caloz test the other day, because many said that they liked that one, and I got ENTP??

I honestly don't know how much I agree with it - I'm not very spontaneous and I like lists and rules and stuff

Is there another test anyone recommends? I'm going to settle this once and for all (and by that I mean I'll continue thinking about which result I agree with the most until the end of time)

#mbti personalities #mbti types #mbti #myers briggs #michael caloz test #cognitive functions #myers-briggs #entp #entp personality #mbti intj #intj personality #intj #mbti entp #16 personalities

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windudemon · 17 days

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psychosexual deconstruction of p.types

each p.type has a role function (8th function in mbti) and even though they actually really dislike it, they will try to act like they are competent with it, they don’t suck at it etc. this is a problem in the bedroom. for example estp trying to be funny or entp trying to rail somebody down will just turn them off. why? because:

each p.type has an anima/animus. this is the fourth function in mbti. suggestive or “dual-seeking” in socionics. types “need” this. instinctively.

so how to please enxps? first tell them “OMG, daddy! destroy me!” or something (since they are trying to prove you how se hard they can fuck you at the beginning) but gradually (depending on your communication skills), show them / tell them that you actually like cuddly grindy si sex instead of railing. slow them down, make them relax, take control even (without being bossy about it). so basically, bring them from fake unvalued se to valued and needed si.

therefore, guess what? inxj is the opposite of entp as you have to bring them from fake si to actually valued se! you gotta rail them. you can think this way too: ni doms are so detached and in their own simulation-world, you gotta be impactful to break the matrix. similarly, ne doms are thinking about possibilities how to make love to you but you make them just focus on the experience and chill.

this is fully theory now: but applying the logic to esxps, they should try to do ne shenanigans in the bed? they should suggest a bit “too creative” things trying to impress you? stupid jokes and shit? nicknames and whatever? so one should be like “muhaha you are so funny” first but then gradually bring them from that fake ne to meaninfulness of the experience which is ni. make them connect with you ni deeper? which, infjs and intjs will do perfectly?

and then ixfps trying to analyze the situation and what their partner thinks right now etc. with their ti role? which actually turns them off? so you gotta clearly “TE”ll them, what you think, what you want? so they won’t need to analyze? they are givers after all? they want to give you what you want and the more you like it, the more they like it?

so yeah, apply the logic to the rest. (acknowledge 8th slot, approach carefully, but bring them to 4th slot without being bossy.)

#16 types #socionics #mbti #personality types #jungian typology #enfp #entp #infp #infj #intj #isfp #esfp #estp #anima / animus #role function #suggestive function #dual-seeking function

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mistype360 · 4 months

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#mbti #cognitive functions #entp #infp #infj #intp #intj #16personalities #isfp #isfj #entj #estj #esfj #esfp #estp #carl jung #psychology #enfj #16 personalities #16 personality types

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gigijenga · 1 year

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simple (?) definitions of the functions

Edit: I made some changes (they are in italics)

Without a basic knowledge of the cognitive functions, it can be extremely hard to understand mbti. Here are the simplified definitions of the functions:

Ne (extroverted intuition): this function spreads intuition/ideas externally. The main thing Ne values is possibility. Ne wants to understand the dozens of ideas that stem from one event. It does not like to stick to one idea.

ex: when it sees a flower, it comes up with dozens of flower designs of its own. It thinks of all the possibility the flower can look like, thought Ne does not care if it is practical (or considered a “good” idea).

Ni (introverted intuition): this function forges an intuitive idea internally. Ni takes information in and thinks of one idea, one insight, on possibility. Like Ne, Ni is focused on what might be possible, not on what is tangible. It wants to dive deeper into the “truth” to find a secret meaning/contradiction.

Ex: when it sees dozens of flowers, it comes up with its own design of a flower. Unlike Ne, Ni takes its time to analyze the depth of one specific idea. Ne does not care much about the accuracy and worth of its ideas (it values possibilities more), while Ni wants its idea to be valuable.

Se (extroverted sensing): this function is focused on the external physical world around it. Se is focused on the present and what is happening in the moment. Like Si, it is focused on the small tangible details. Se is a fairly direct and objective function. It does not like to meddle with hypotheticals and theories (this does not mean Se is unintellectual). This function is a kinesthetic learner and likes to meddle with its environment.

Ex: when it sees a flower, it simply, well, sees it. It's a concrete object that has no other poetic meaning to it.

Si (introverted sensing): this function is focused on the real world in its head/internally. Si is oriented towards the past, towards repetition. It makes decisions based on how similar events in the past enrolled. Si values predictability (not necessarily tradition).

Ex: when it sees a flower, it remembers how the flower connects to past sensory details and it stores the details of the flower in its head for further use in the future.

Fi (introverted feeling): this function is focused on its own internal moral code/philosophy. It makes decisions based on how moral the situation is based on its own feelings and values. Fi is often seen as the function that wants to be authentic because it is concerned if the current situation/its decision aligns with its personal values.

Ex: when Fi gives gifts to other people, it contemplates on what gift it would like/value. Fi also analyzes how the gift would be valuable according to the person’s inner feelings and beliefs.

Fe (extroverted feeling): this function is focused on the external moral code. It is concerned if its actions align with external beliefs and ethnics. Fe makes decisions based on what the majority values. It is aware of how its actions will impact/meddle with the emotional state of other people*. Unlike Fi, Fe believes ethics are not decided by itself. Fe is objective, like Te.

*Though other functions might have this ability, Fe knows how other people feel on a “deeper level” and it is confident in its ability to do so (just like how Fi is confident in its ability to analyze its own beliefs). For example, Te might be able to analyze emotions on a surface level, but it has trouble understanding the emotions of others on an in-depth level. Plus, Te is not concerned with the emotional environment.*

Ex: when Fe gives gifts to other people, it gives gifts based on what the majority believes is the best gift.

Ti (introverted thinking): this function is focused on the logical world internally. It forges its own logical claims, reasoning and conclusions. Ti is mainly concerned with the internal consistency and analysis of one thing, rather than external evidence that supports it. Inductive reasoning. “The ball will fall because I’ve seen the same ball fall down multiple times, therefore it will fall down this time.” Ti cannot understand how one thing can contradict its own “rule”.

Ex: when Ti gives gifts, it forms an analysis on what gift would be the most beneficial based on the patterns and observations it witnesses.

Te (extroverted thinking): this function is focused on the external world of logic. It is focused on data, evidence and facts from the outside world. It is focused on if something is practical/aligns with external rules and principles. It analyzes things based on how it relates to similar external logical principles. “This ball will fall because I’ve seen other rubber balls like this fall, so it is logical to assume that this one will fall.” Deductive reasoning. Te cannot understand how one thing can contradict the “universal rule”.

Ex: when Te gives gifts, it analyzes what is the most beneficial gift by evaluating the already the existing/assumed benefits each gift option has and picks the gift with the best benefits.

#mbti #cognitive functions #16 personalities #myer briggs #explanation #intj #intp #entj #entp #infj #infp #enfj #enfp #istj #isfj #estj #esfj #istp #isfp #estp #esfp

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tbh-entp · 8 months

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I'm starting to realize that my Ne-Fe loop turns on when I'm too social. I start going out, get a little addicted to being charming and how people respond, and then I forget myself and my Ti, and drain myself on saying the right (or hilariously wrong) things at the right moments, and I'm so aware of how people respond to me but idk how I'm responding to myself or how I even relate to what I'm saying-- only that it's clever and well timed and wow I feel terrible. I need to go home and find my Ti.

#entp #mbti #mine #ne-fe #cognitive functions #best to socialize in small amounts #i'm a mega ambivert anyway #so i'm just out here draining myself but enjoying that everyone loves me but idk if it's even me like it is but i'm not connecting on thing #s that are close or relevant to me really #the conundrum #of being an expat totally alone and being scared of the tock clickin g and no one being there when you die to even know that it's happened #so i feel i must be social if not just to survive #but i can only handle so much before losing myself #or so much with crowds of people who are only acquaintances #i need to do things and think about things and really exercise the Ti and maybe also clean my apartment #personality #personality type

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rainytypology · 1 year

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A view of each MBTI type by an INTJ:

Saw a few of these lately so why not? Lol

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INTJ: My type and the best type obviously. Kidding. Not really. Healthy/mature ones are interesting and helpful, nice and easy to talk to. I've noticed immature ones try a little too hard to seem edgy and cool to fit into the "cold" INTJ stereotype when that's not a flex at all. I think a lot of us are impatient and stubborn too.

ENTJ: Often driven and motivated individuals who put in a lot of effort into what they do. I admire their hardworking nature. I've unfortunately come across a very unhealthy one before who was quite possessive and narcissistic. I did not have to deal with them personally, but a few of my friends did and their horror stories of that ENTJ will probably be stuck with me forever.

INTP: Their minds are...unique. I wonder what goes on in there. Such weird yet interesting individuals. Sometimes a bit rude, unintentional or not. My younger sister is one and I have to resist the urge to fight with her a lot lmao, but maybe that's just us being siblings.

ENTP: Love them. ENxPs in general 🤌🤌. I've never come across a boring ENTP. Often so chaotic. Never fail to make me laugh. I can have the funnest conversations with them. So witty.

INFJ: One of my best friends is one and it's kinda funny how similar yet different we both are. Ni dom things I guess. Other INFJs I've observed seem to have a lot of patience and kindness. Genuinely have a good heart and want the best for others.

ENFJ: I've only met two personally. Can be funny and witty, really approachable people. Both are very loyal and care a lot about their families, they carry a lot of responsibilities for others. Do not like to show their struggles, will probably mention it briefly before changing the subject.

INFP: Probably my least favorite type due to having bad experiences with them. Unhealthy ones can be so whiney and pathetic. Always want to cry and complain but never actually do anything about it. Can burst emotionally without warning. They can be so exhausting to deal with. I'm not gonna automatically hate you if you're an INFP though, that's just stupid lol, but I will be wary. I only have one INFP friend for now and likely because she's a lot older than me, she's much calmer and more considerate compared to the previous INFPs I've encountered.

ENFP: Some weirdos fr but I love it. Always so talkative and excited. Why are you guys lowkey kinda sad though 😭

ISTJ: I haven't come across any irl yet, but a few of my favorite fictional characters are ISTJs. One of my fav kpop idols as well. Not really sure where the boring stereotype comes from as I think ISTJs are quite nice.

ESTJ: I don't think I've met any yet and have typed a few idols as an ESTJ. I know they get a bad rep, but I honestly just think it stems from ESTJ's tendency to be direct, no bs, which can be intimidating/overwhelming for people. They can be really weird and silly only if they're comfortable.

ISFJ: I don't know any ISFJs irl, but seeing ISFJ idols/celebrities, they're just usually nice and kind people. Quiet but do enjoy being with others.

ESFJ: Honestly think my other best friend may be one 🤔 I do think she has a high Fe for sure. They seem to care the most about their presentation and other's opinions of them.

ISTP: I've only met one and they were okay. Pretty chill and had immense "idgaf" energy. But that attitude was also what made them a bit unlikeable as it extended to having a disregard for feelings and morals. Nobody's perfect, but I don't think it's that difficult to have common human decency. I do like a few ISTP characters and celebrities though.

ESTP: One of my older siblings is one and we get along fine. She has a good eye for aesthetics. Her and other ESTPs I've seen don't really seem to be super serious people, they're just trying their best to enjoy life. Adventurous and open minded. Can't seem to stay still.

ISFP: Have only met a few irl and I've also typed several kpop idols as one. From what I've seen, they are a lot calmer compared to INFPs. They're quite passionate but more realistic individuals though, always going for what they want (likely due to aux Se). Also quite blunt lol but it does not top IxTP's honesty.

ESFP: Have not met any irl yet, but from observing an ESFP I follow and ESFP celebrities, I like their straightforwardness. Passionate and expressive. Funny.

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