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mothwitch-arcanum · 2 months

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Reverse 1999 x MLP AU Idea!

So! I said I had this in my drafts for a while but I just realized it was weirdly formatted so I'm redoing everything.

everything here was inspired by this post/fanart and the characters will be mostly based on them! with a few extra mixed in.

First off, Context! While this is more based on Gen 4 (Friendship is Magic), it does feel a bit of a Gen 5 derivative in that it's supposed to be future Equestria.

The Alicorn Princesses and the Element of Harmony are long gone, simply a distant memory in the minds of many of today's ponies. Equestria since then have not had any one or two princesses to rule, however remnants of the old kingdom still persist. The Twilight Foundation as well as The School for the Primary Defence of Ponykind (SPDP) were founded by old members of Princess Twilight's court and Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns respectively, and made as a response to a prophecy which was uncovered that said on the last day of the 2nd millennium since Princess Luna's banishment, a great calamity will befall upon Equestria which will turn the land of ponies back to how it once was. And so on the last day of the year 1999, time stood still and started reversing everything. Nopony was safe from it's effects... except for one. Her name was Invert Tempo. The Timekeeper, of the Twilight Foundation.

(characters and more under the cut)

Characters! (Ponified edition!)

(These are just names I personally came up with. If a better suggestion comes for any of them then I shall consider changing it)

Invert Tempo - Vertin (Earth pony) I saw a post once that said Vertin was just an anagram of Invert and I really wanted to incorporate that. Tempo was the suggestion of a friend, which relates to her musical inclination. or a shortened for of temporal which... y'know... fits very well

Sonnet "Sonetto" Moon - Sonetto (Unicorn) Honestly Sonetto is already a good pony name, but I wanted to give her a name akin to Twilight (There's a few parallels with those two not just in the post above), hence Sonnet Moon with Sonetto being a nickname.

"Captain R3G" Applecore - Regulus (Earth Pony) Applecore was actually the first name I came up with out of anything here because Regulus definately feels like she could be part of the Apple Family, maybe not directly Applejack's lineage though. I actually had a harder time with her nickname (Heavily inspired by Vinyl aka DJ Pon3)

Mistilteinn - Druvis III (Unicorn) She holds a bouquet of mistletoe, mistilteinn is literally just mistletoe... I could not NOT have her named after it. Also that can give her the nickname Mistil which sounds cute and cool!

Southern Breeze - Sotheby (Pegasus) Honestly I mostly picked this cause it was close sounding to Sotheby. Like you could also argue Sotheby could be a nickname because So(u)the(rn) B(r)ee(ze).

Morning Lillies - Lilya (Pegasus) This one also didn't have much thought put into it, just that Yellow = Sun = Morning and Lilya = Lillies and Morning Lillies sounded pony enough.

Bonus characters!

Dikke (who was featured in the post) is Silver Scale (unicorn)

Mr. APPLe is still the same as canon

Mr. Karson is Mr. Carton Box (earth pony) cause it sounds close

Schneider is Orange Blossom (Half Pony Half Changeling(I'll touch on this in a bit!))

Matilda (unicorn) I have no name for yet as well as Madam Z (kirin) and Constantine (maybe Pegasus) (suggestions welcome!)

Arcana is either a Draconequus or Changeling Queen and Forget-me-not is an Earth Pony

Headcanons!

Because of magic shenaniganry after the alicorns disappeared, earth ponies and pegasi can now use magic much like unicorns, but only a few of them. Some unicorns also lost their magic because of this hence a divide in "Normal" ponies and Arcanist ponies.

Applecore is a part of the very large Apple Family and runs Radio APPLe on her ship much like in canon. She also doesn't like people calling her by her real name so she goes Captain, Reg, or Reggy most of the time.

Mr. APPLe is a result of one of Applecore's experimentation in alchemy.

Orange Blossom is the filly of someone from the Orange Family and a Changeling, making her a half pony half changeling hybrid which also gives her minor shape shifting abilities.

being part of the Orange family also means technically Orange Blossom is distantly related to Applecore.

perhaps later on I shall add more but for now this is basically the gist of my ideas. Their cutie marks especially cause I wanna brainstorm what those could be like.

#vertin #sonetto #schneider #regulus #druvis iii #sotheby #lilya #aus #pony au #my posts #I have many more ideas for this au #I wanna share them all but I've already spent 2 straight hours just typing this out #my au #reverse 1999 #r1999 #reverse 1999 au #headcanons

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thenationaltreasuregazette · 3 months

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The 2003 Script, Act 1

Welcome! To the long-awaited deep dive on the 2003 script.

This will be the beginning of a series recapping the major differences, and similarities, between the 2003 script and the final film.

To refresh your memory, on ye olde internet you can find an earlier version of the National Treasure script from April 2003, and it is a wild ride. In a previous post, I looked at where it falls in the chain of development, who was involved, and how to understand this script as a production artifact.

The short version: it’s about 80% there.

The major beats are clear

All the characters exist in recognizable form

Nicolas Cage signed on as the lead one month later

All the major creative voices had gotten their fingers in the pie by this point

And yet as recognizable as this is as National Treasure, it’s a version of National Treasure from another dimension.

I’d like to go through it, summarize the major differences, and see what we can uncover.

→ I should also note that I basically agree with all of the changes that were made between this script and the final film. All of them serve to tighten and enhance the story, make the characters more nuanced, and make the story more subtle and rich. That’s not to say that this script shouldn’t have existed—just the opposite. I think this version needed to exist in order to get the creative team to the final film. I’m glad this isn’t the film that was shot, but I love this as a window into the process.

ACT 1

FADE IN:

No Baby Ben yet; we jump right into the legend of the treasure.

→ It’s longer and more detailed, including the fact that Andrew Jackson already knew Charles Carroll’s story about the treasure and didn’t believe it.

The story is being told by JOHN ADAMS GATES, who’s in a nursing home, not in his attic, to YOUNG BEN.

Ben shows his treasure hunting potential by suggesting that Charlotte could be an anagram, then promises more directly that he’ll find Charlotte. PATRICK is just as disgruntled as in the final.

CUT TO:

It’s just BEN and RILEY in the snowcat, named The Endeavor. Ben is in his

(late 20s, strong family resemblance.)

Riley is

(25, unkempt)

They’re searching with ground penetrating radar, get a hit, and discover the figurehead’s face in the ice. Then they radio base camp for Ian and the gang to join them.

We learn that Riley is the one who convinced Ian to fund the expedition.

→ My sense in the final film is that Ben and Ian brought Riley in together, and Riley was the last to join.

Shaw thinks the find is too small to be the ship they’re looking for, and Ben explains that it’s tilted, hence the smaller footprint.

But don’t worry, they won’t have to dig it out because...

...the Charlotte is trapped in an air pocket/ice cave.

The Ben, Ian, then Riley repel down into the cave.

Ben tricks Ian into searching the hold, and Riley into searching the berthing quarters while he searches the Captain’s Cabin.

→ Ben’s cleverness is emphasized a lot more early on in this version. He’s both able to think outside the box (as with the tilted ship) and able to manipulate people, including Ian, to get what he wants. Honestly I think he comes off as kind of a jackass. He's more like the Ben we see in Book of Secrets—a self-righteous know-it-all.

Under the Captain's desk, Ben finds a trap door that leads to the storeroom full of gunpowder. The Captain guarding one barrel, the meerschaum pipe, and the first riddle remain the same.

It’s different dialogue, but Ben works out the clue in a similar manner, minus the comedic stylings of Riley and Shaw found in the final.

Ian draws a gun with a literal, “Oh, you didn’t bring one of these?”

IAN Oh, you didn't bring one of these?

→ I'm not kidding he actually says this.

After the same stunt Ben pulls with the flare, only this time with a lighter, Ian opens fire on Ben and Riley.

→ In this version, Shaw is not in this scene to be Ian’s muscle. I think that was an important distinction the final film made, that Shaw does the dirty work and Ian stays one step removed. It differentiates their character functions and it helps Ian feel more intelligent and slick. He’s not just a wealthy thug, he’s the puppet master who pulls other people’s strings. I think that sets him up to be a more formidable antagonist, and a better foil for Ben.

Rather than riding out the explosion in the smugglers hold, Ben and Riley have to break down the hold door and use a harpoon gun to break out of the ice cave since Ian and Co pulled up the ropes.

All the while, Riley is complaining that he should have taken the job at Intel.

RILEY Intel offered me a job with my own cubicle. BEN Do we have to go over this every expedition? RILEY Until I get rich, yes. Ben wheels the harpoon around and aims it at Riley's head. BEN Fine. Now, duck!

They jump into the Endeavor just before the Charlotte blows…

…and go flying off a GLACIAL CLIFF.

Don’t worry, it floats.

→ This sequence gives you a taste of the level of action that will be present throughout the script (which is something a good opening should do.) By comparison, the final National Treasure feels fairly (and I recognize that this seems insane to say but...) mundane. I know that seems wild, cuz the premise of the movie is still ridiculous, but there was a significant toning-down of the action between versions, and I think that was the right choice. In this script, everything is so heightened that stealing the Declaration of Independence doesn’t seem like so big of a deal. Everything is a big deal. Everything is a daring, dangerous action scene. By toning down the action elsewhere, 1. we save budget, and that probably had a lot to do with these choices. But also 2. the story is able to put more contrast between both the life Ben normally lives and his decision to steal the Declaration, and between his belief in the treasure and everyone else’s reality. When everything is already James Bond levels of action for everyone, is a heist really that surprising?

Washington D.C.

Ben and Riley view the Declaration at the National Archives. They also see Ian and Shaw casing the place.

→ There's no "If Ian tries to steal it...." We know for certain that he's planning to. It sounds like that should add tension but it actually doesn't. More on that in part 2.

Back at Ben’s apartment, Ben gives a pocket watch he found on The Charlotte to his LANDLADY, who laments that he can’t keep a girlfriend.

→ While I like this moment showing that Ben is thoughtful (and also kind of pathetic if his landlady is the only one he as to give gifts like this to), I think the choice to isolate him further in the final film is the stronger one. He has literally no one he can turn to other than Riley and his dad.

For more about Ben as a loner and the changes to his character from the 2003 script to the film, see here.

At the Library of Congress, Ben lays out his plan of how he thinks Ian is going to steal the Declaration. They haven’t tried to tell anyone at the FBI, National Archives, or anywhere else yet.

In this version, it takes two minutes for the Declaration to be lowered into its vault, and that’s when its most vulnerable. Ben suspects Ian will create some external chaos that will force the Declaration to be lowered automatically when the guards aren’t there. No Preservation Room required (or mentioned.)

Riley is not trying to talk Ben out of anything, because Ben doesn’t reveal he’s thinking of stealing it himself until part way through this scene.

When he does, Riley is like “nuh-uh” and proposes an alternative.

That’s when the meeting with ABIGAIL happens and Riley does the talking because Ben will "make the whole thing sound crazy."

RILEY No, this is my idea. You’ll try to make it sound crazy.

SIDEBAR ON RILEY - He is by far the character who is most different here than in the final film. Let's do a separate article to unpack that.

ABIGAIL, by the way, is

bookishly beautiful, 26.

She and Riley go back and forth for a bit while Ben is distracted with Abigail’s GW button collection. Then Ben jumps in to spar with Abigail on historical knowledge (she doesn’t miss a beat). She makes the crack about Bigfoot, and realizes they’re treasure hunters.

Abigail is much more direct in telling the guys what she thinks of them:

ABIGAIL We have a very sophisticated security system designed to stop crazy people like yourselves from getting near it.

When they leave, Ben gives fake names for both him and Riley: Paul Brown and Tom Jeffries. In the hallway after the meeting, Ben explains that the fake names are to buy time when the feds start investigating the theft.

He’s also wiping his hands with a handkerchief, because he ALREADY HAD THE UV INK on his hands to shake Abigail’s hand at the meeting.

RILEY You knew we were going to do this all along, didn't you? BEN I was hoping she would believe us so we wouldn't have to.

→ Even if he thought it was a longshot, I like it so much better that in the final movie Ben is looking to Abigail as his last chance before making a desperate decision, not as a formality that he has to get through before he can do what he already wants to do (steal the Declaration.) And for their relationship, it’s important to me that they’re in that meeting on equal footing. He doesn’t already have UV ink on his hands because he’s already planning to screw her over. Like yikes. In that version, they should not end up together because none of the trust-building that’s so key to their relationship is actually real.

There’s also more emphasis placed on how the Declaration will always be in danger until the treasure is found. It's less about only stopping Ian and more about ensuring no one has a reason to ever think about stealing it again.

→ So let’s talk about dominoes. All the major dominoes that exist in the final film exist here, but in a slightly different order. And again, I think the changes made from this script to the final helped to strengthen the story considerably. In this script, Ian threatens to steal the Declaration, Ben reveals he’s already planning to steal it instead, and Riley attempts to make the theft unnecessary by talking to Abigail. Ben doesn’t believe this will work, and he’s already putting the pieces of his heist in motion. In the finished movie, Ian threatens to steal the Declaration, and Ben exhausts every avenue to stop him without getting involved himself. It’s his decision to talk to Abigail, and she’s his last hope. It’s only after she refuses that we see Ben make the decision to steal the Declaration himself. In the 2003 script, Ben seems like he was already ready and willing to steal the Declaration of Independence. He jumps right in. It’s not a hard choice for him to make, and in fact, he seems like he kind of wants to do it. Like he was just waiting for an excuse. He doesn’t try any other options first, and in the one alternative plan that Riley makes him try, he has so little faith that it will work that he’s already putting his heist in motion before that attempt is even done. Hell, we don't even see him make the decision on screen. That paints Ben as self-righteous and a little too gung-ho about this whole heist business. Here he doesn’t seem like a treasure protector; he seems a lot like Ian actually—someone willing to do anything for the quest with very little provocation. In the final film, Ben is pushed into stealing it by exhausting every other option first. We see the institutional walls he keeps running into, which are absent in the 2003 script. We understand that this was his last resort. It also makes his interaction with Abigail feel more genuine. He’s actually trying to connect with her, and taking the lead to defend his own theory rather than letting Riley do it. Then, once he’s decided to steal it, that’s when we go to the Library of Congress so Riley can try to talk him out of it. In the film, Ben is presented as someone who wanted any other option first, but then once he gets backed into a corner, his conviction is set and he won’t be deterred. That’s someone we can root for! That’s an underdog who nobody believes, and who is willing to put his freedom on the line for something he cares about! He and Riley also have multiple discussions about whether Ben should do this, and what it means if he does or doesn’t. In short, it feels like a momentous decision, because Ben has to be pushed repeatedly before he makes it, then spends multiple scenes digesting it and discussing if it’s even possible. In the script, he seems like a guy who decided to steal the Declaration almost as quickly as Ian did, and who will only half-heartedly consider other possibilities. He comes on screen already having a plan, and he doesn’t seem to think it will be that hard. In this version it does not feel like a momentous decision, and that’s a lot less sympathetic.

→ Next time, Act 2!

#the national treasure gazette #national treasure #the 2003 script #ben gates #riley poole #ian howe #abigail chase

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dailycharacteroption · 7 months

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Conversion Corner: Even More Bloodstained Spells part 5

Va Ischa

We end off the series this week with one final spell, one of the handful of more spell-like shards that have names in a strange primal tongue (which might be enochian or some derivative of latin in-universe but was explained as being anagrams for foods in an interview.)

In any case, the va ischa is a spell granted by the forneus enemy, a demonic fish with far too many eyes. I forget if forneus is actually capable of casting the spell itself, as they are fairly easy to kill even before you get the upgrade that lets you move in water freely.

The va ischa shard conjures a ring of icy shards around Miriam, which then fire off in rapid succession in the orthogonal and diagonal directions, potentially striking many foes when surrounded. With that in mind, we can probably create a spell that strikes at foes outwardly from the caster.

Ice Scatter

School evocation [cold]; Level bloodrager 4, magus 4, occultist 4, shaman 5, sorcerer/wizard 4

Casting

Casting Time 1 standard action

Components V, S,

Effect

Range self

Area 30 ft radius burst centered on self

Duration instantaneous

Saving Throw Reflex half; Spell Resistance yes

Description

Shards of ice spray out from your body in all directions. Other creatures within 30 feet of you must make a Reflex save or take 1d6 cold and slashing damage per caster level (max 15d6).

An extremely simple spell, somewhat similar to detonate, but since there is no delay or risk of also taking damage, the damage is more traditional d6s rather than d8s. Having it be half slashing damage also makes it easier to resist, hence having a higher dice cap.

#pathfinder #conversion #bloodstained #spell

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the-girl-in-the-high-castle · 1 year

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I haven't been active on tumblr in AGES so ignore my decades old tumblr but I need to share one of my crazy 1899 theories with someone:

Daniel, Elliot and Sebastian are programs developed by Maura. They were her "tools" to create the simulations. That’s why they're aware they're in a simulation, that’s why they can do what they do inside the simulation and that's why they know the simulation is corrupted. Maura and Daniel didn’t get married 12 years ago and created the simulation together. Maura wrote Daniel’s code 12 years ago and he was one of her "tools" to create the simulation. And what was the first thing Maura developed using Daniel? Elliot, another program. Daniel is so devoted to Maura and will always choose Maura over Elliot because she wrote him that way, to help her. At this moment, his task is to help her wake up. What about Sebastian then? Well, he’s a german first mate. Eyk’s first mate to be precise. Maura developed Sebatian as another "tool" but for Eyk.

As a consequence of the corruption of the simulation Daniel has fake memories of Maura as his wife and Elliot as their son that parallel his function, Maura has flashes of those fake memories as if she was reading his code and, last but not least, Sebastian went rogue but feels sorry for deactivating Eyk.

All of this fits with the 'what's reality?' theme of the story. Daniel, Elliot and Sebastian initially were Maura's dolls in a sense.

I'm aware this is insane tho.

Oh no, it's not insane at all. I love your thinking. It actually makes sense and it matches the theory of Daniel and Elliot not being real, which I soundly believe in. The thought that they are code fits perfectly into it, because all their "memories" look like they were created from different parts that don't match at all, they look bleak and grey and unreal. And Daniel not wanting to tell Maura why she doesn't remember is suspicious as hell. I wasn't thinking about Sebastian though, except in doubt that he might be Ciaran, but since he is aware of the simulation, he should be on the same level as Daniel and Elliot.

The "tool" part is pretty interesting thinking, but we need to ask ourselves why she needed tools in the first place and why the simulation? Now here's what I'm thinking:

The Eyk/Key anagram thing needs to mean something. So it occurred to me that him being ''the key" means that he might actually be the reason why Maura created everything, if she was actually the one that did it. The theory that he's the real husband also goes with it. But, if we go with anagrams, we have Daniel/denial as well. Now, running along your "tool" lines I have to mention a though that is kinda torturing me lately and that is that Eyk and Daniel might be the same person. I know, it's insane and probably reaching, but it's just bugging me so hard. So, if Eyk is the key to everything and if he is the reason Maura created the simulation, it means that something happened to him in reality, something that she probably blames herself for (the way she always defends him without question and without thinking for a single second, even though his decisions sometimes are outright insane). The desperate "come back" when Sebastian turns him off is haunting me and making me think about this even more. Eyk and Daniel are two opposites, they can't be more different if they tried, but what if that was the point? Eyk is so undeniably human. So human and imperfect and full of flaws. On the other hand Daniel is perfect, too perfect to be real, he'd do anything for Maura, anything. So, what if Daniel is a code created to take Eyk's place as the perfect version of a real person that is either no longer there, or is but has fucked things up real hard and has to be replaced to ease the pain away (the denial anagram). But, the body remembers and she keeps coming back to him. Just like her body remembers losing a child, not having one, hence Elliot being code as well. So, failed marriage, loss of child, torn apart by it? Eyk's ''memories'' in the sim also seem vague and unreal, the only one that feels real is Nina, his eldest daughter, so she is either real as she is or represents a metaphor for the lost child that was never born (their family tragedies happened at the same time according to their sim ''memories" and Maura's emotional reaction to his family portrait has to mean something).

Anyway, I've started rambling again. I don't know if anything I wrote is of any help to you or if it makes sense.

#1899 netflix #1899 #1899 theories #we're all mad here #daniel solace #maura franklin #eyk larsen #eyk x maura

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hotaru-apartments · 5 months

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Briar

First post on this oc blog is Briar!

Fandom: Mahoyaku/Promise of Wizard

Quick Overview:

Briar is a 2000 year old wizard that lives in the Northern Country. His disposition is a rarity among Northern wizards - welcoming, friendly, easy-going - though his magic is nothing to laugh at. Also known as the Wizard of Animals; his power is enough to bring a dragon to its knees.

Random Facts:

Magic Spell: Camia Acercos

Anagram of the latin words Amica(friend) and Accerso(call); literally "calling a friend" (A/N: take note that I got this by searching up the words; so its probably not accurate)

Briar was loosely based off of Sleeping Beauty; also known as Little Briar Rose, hence his name and motif.

I definitely had fun styling his hair ^^ Logically speaking though, it'd probably take him a while to make his hair perfect in the mornings without magic.

Likes taking in animals and magical creatures. He adores them. and more often than not, they adore him too. Think of an animal or a magical creature - Briar probably tamed them at some point.

If Briar was anything like the Northern wizards - aggressive, hungry for power - he could probably take over the world? Just like Oz. They can summon a dragon with one ring of their bell after all. Imagine a whole army of magical creatures terrorizing the countries. Luckily he's a good guy (good grampa) that just wants to play with his familiars in his cozy home in the North.

Their main familiar is a phoenix named Calcifer. (The phoenix got his name from Howl's Moving Castle's Calcifer.) He's been with Briar ever since he was a baby. Where he came from? Who knows.

Canonically, Briar exists in an AU of Mahoyaku; he alters significant parts of the original timeline (being Snow and White's first adoptive son(?)/student; finding Owen when he was young and raising him; altering a certain event that would have changed things between Snow and White...

And Briar has his own lore and secrets too. It gets pretty complicated tbh. I plan to make a fic out of this AU since I got his entire lore figured out but that's one of the many personal projects in my list.

#briar #mhyk oc #mahoyaku oc #my art #promise of wizard #promise of wizard oc #is it bad that i wanna marry my own oc #i love him sm #oc #original character #ocs #original characters

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gothicwvlff · 22 days

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getting into toki pona. heres how i personally write my name in its glyphs (sitelen pona????????), somoli Sakaletu (scarlet) as well as my reasoning as to why. (theres lots of baggage behind it)

first off, somoli isnt an actual word in toki pona, rather a combination of soweli (animal) n moli (dead), which i imagine means carcass or roadkill. ive seen myself as something other than human for as long as i can remember, just never had the words for it until like 2022. the death part refers to the trauma which likely contributed to my disconnection from humanity, i interpret myself as an animal caged into a human meatshield against my will, n ive tried to end things several times. in toki pona, your name typically starts wit "jan" (person), but i use somoli instead for reasons described earlier. in this context, jan is used as a prefix that alerts the reader that a name is coming up, the actual name is whats boxed after it.

to toki ponize your name, you roughly translate it using the sheet of valid syllables, then pick out glyphs that start wit each letter, like an anagram. (suwi ala kon ala lete e tenpo uta = sakaletu)

i picked each glyph based on the connotations their meanings have to specifically. sweet (suwi) as in forced optimism, ala (no) as in denial//suppression of the self, kon (air) n lete (cold) as in cold weather, e (object) as in being treated like one, tenpo (time) as in anxiety of the future, n uta (mouth) as in being verbally abused all my life. i know i prolly shouldnt be putting this much thought into a silly internet language but whatever

then i stylized each symbol to more accurately reflect myself, ex adding emo hair to the face, making the weather symbol into a thunderbolt........ i also changed the ala to ale (all) for the sake of distinguishing it from lete, as the cross (ala) is very similar to the snowflake (lete). im aware it might not be readable without the knowledge of all this, hence why i try to put it alongside the written form.

so yeah theres that //_- somoli Sakaletu signing out

#toki pona #sitelen pona #photograph of a new dark

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soul-dwelling · 1 year

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Do you think there is any subtext in Soul Eater that isn't obvious and got lost by most readers?

I’m not sure.

I mean, there are those references that definitely escaped me early on.

I mean, the witch references I missed the first few times watching: Blair referencing The Blair Witch Project; that witch Samantha alluding to Bewitched (which itself was an influence on the magical witch genre in Japan); Angela Leon is a chameleon-theme witch.

And the musical name references went over my head.

A lot of the names can elude us, granted, whether due to language barriers or missing out on puns and allusions. For example, Kid’s name, when spelled out in capital letters in English, are all symmetrical. And as Black Star himself explains later in the manga, you can read his name as much as meaning “dark world,” hence his feeling of isolation and when he refers to Tsubaki as being like the bright stars. And Maka’s name being an anagram of for the Japanese for “scythe.”

And there is the role Rasputin had and hence why we see Maka fighting him. Quoting from the Soul Eater Wiki (https://souleater.fandom.com/wiki/Rasputin): “[T]he Bolsheviks tried to kill Rasputin in several ways including being shot several times. Rasputin mentioned that bullets [were] ineffective against him.”

In fact, those first chapters have a ton of those references. It’s why you have so many characters associated with death early on. Rasputin is an early opponent. And before him, Anubis, an Egyptian god of Death, fights Kid. And plague doctors were around death so much, so you have Excalibur looking like a plague doctor.

I’m not sure about subtext that readers may miss.

Maybe you can read into Crona’s gender identity in relation to how Medusa treats them as an “it,” but some of that I think owes in part to English speakers in the US getting a bonus interpretation by the translation, e.g. Crona has been treated as just a thing, their time away from Medusa allows them to determine their own identity, the manga and anime at varying times have Medusa refer to Crona as an “it” as much as a convention of translating pronouns as it is translators emphasizing how Medusa indeed sees Crona as a tool or a specimen.

I’m not sure how much to read into Stein from the perspective of body augmentation. You have him tightening the bolt through his head as the “loose screw” visual metaphor for his sanity.

I’m still not quite sure what the anime was getting at during Stein’s hallucination, with Spirit as a dog (that he’s Lord Death’s lapdog?) and Marie’s henohenomoheji face (that she is just another faceless victim of Stein’s screw ups?).

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zenodreemurr · 8 months

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Red is NOT the true color of Determination? An investigation about Undertale lore (Part 3)

Greetings everyone. This is part three of my investigation of Undertale lore.

If, by any chance, this is the first part you stumble upon, here's a summary of what is happening. These posts are a full-on investigation about the color of Determination and how it may not be red. During the last part, I talked about the kind of well-known origin of SOUL names, as well as the relation of the red SOUL with this. Each part of this investigation, due to the full one being too long and to stay consistent with the separation of the parts of the investigation, is its own Tumblr post. It is recommended to read them in order. Here are PART 1, PART 2, PART 4 During the two last parts, it was proven that the appearance of red is more common that one would believe . This part will delve into this specific aspect of the investigation, since red is more present that it's said most of the time by fans. Analyses of the possible significances of red throughout the game and lack of red in specific situations related to Determination As I've stated before, red appears many, many times throughout the games, and each time people argue that it is related to Determination, yet, while some meanings are unclear, others are and are unrelated to Determination. People also tend to believe that red appears quite rarely, yet it is not the case. In fact, let me show you how you see it throughout the entire game.

While I had to take an Asgore genocide encounter to show it (since attacks aren't shown in the screenshots of the Undertale Text Project), all of your attacks throughout the game as well as all damage you see the Monsters taking are shown in red. Yet that is not the only time red appears. There are many other times. And since I have shown Asgore, let me show you one thing you known and one detail most people most to never notice.

Most people talk about how Asgore's trident is red. Now there may be an explanation for this. In popular culture, the Devil tends to be often represented as red, especially if its intended to be seen through child eyes. While not the only color commonly seen, and while the relation may not seem obvious, goats are, for Christians, related to Demons, and even more specifically, the Devil. Asgore's design in combat is made to look like the Devil, and the addition of red to the trident may be an aesthetic addition to help thinking such a thing. But that is not all. Do you see the red on the background? You know, at the bottom of the image. Most people do not see it, yet it exists. It's there. While I may be a bit too confident into what I'm saying, this looks like droplets of blood, possibly referencing the children that are dead, before Frisk. However, for it to work better, we need to assume that Asgore has killed them all, which, while it's very likely due to numerous texts, stays unconfirmed (or I haven't found it, hence why I take the time to talk about it). As such, red, on this image, could actually represent murder or evildoings, since red is also seen, to an extent, as a color of evil. The theme of murder isnearly omnipresent when it comes to Asgore. Even Dreemurr is an anagram of "Murderer", showing the omnipresence of the theme. There's also another thing.

Asgore is referred to in red text at least twice throughout the game (that I found). This more than likely signifies importance (which red may do other time, as seen with Chara's red texts) and no more. Also of course there is red in the background, most likely for the scenery, which is an aesthetic choice. In fact, it is not the only case of red being related to importance.

This is another case of using red to make something look important. The special attack is talked throughout Papyrus's fight, and even the way he talks about it makes it sound important. Now that we've talked about the red related to importance and to Asgore, let's go to other appearances that I know of.

Multiple instances of red can be seen throughout the Flowey fight in the Neutral route. First of all, while it applies to all fights, all lost HP is represented in red. Also, you can see some red on Flowey's design. Whether it is the red eyes on the television screen or the thorns on his body, it seems to be made to terrify the player. This boss is known to have scared many persons after all. Not only that, but when the warning appears, it appears in red. Of course this is a classical warning choice. Red is a color that easily catches attention, hence its uses for important signs, much like this warning one. Let's get to the next ones.

Those are the True Lab ones. I've identified red appearing four times at least. For the first two, the red, as proven by the second image, is there for the association of colors red/blue/green/yellow, an association of colors that is very common to see. As for the entries, the red is again there with the intent of scaring people, or at least creating a feeling of dread, as this is a darker shade of red.

By continuing, we can see that red also appears on Sans's telescope room. I'm not going to look through every room in Undertale. Tumblr limits the amount of images we can send in one past and it would be too long. I chose this one because we do not look at the room itself in the telescope. But to be fair, I feel like that was chosen at random, which may show a lack of meaning for the color red red in some occasions. I can't see any meaning in this, especially when Frisk's eye becomes purple, which makes it even more confusing. Let's also look at the dimensional box, that also has some red on it. It's probably that way to separate from the very blue, green, and white looks of Snowdin and Waterfall. The next one is the last appearance of red I will look into, and I kept this one for last intentionally.

The end of the Sans fight, the one everyone waiting. Well, first of all, thanks to these screenshots (and feel free to verify by fighting Sans in-game), we can actually see that the red only appears once Sans put his hand on his torso. You can also see the red thing on the hand on the third screenshot. We're not here to theorize about the true nature of this. In fact, this post assumes that no theory should be stated as correct. Sans in Undertale is intentionally left as mysterious, and we're not sure anything about Sans truly means anything. That is one of these instances, though one of the weirdest. Now, to continue, let's not forget that determination is relevant during some moments of Undertale. For fights, it's especially relevant for Undyne, Undyne the Undying, and the amalgamates, as Undyne calls herself determined and the amalgamates have been injected determination. Let's look at them.

As you can see, as proven with Sans and Asgore, some colorful details can appear, yet no red color appears on Undyne the Undying and the amalgamates themselves when you fight them, even though they're related to Determination. Interestingly enough, as you can see with the Memoryheads (which applies to all amalgamates by the way), red text appears when you attack them, telling some words. One may assume that it is because the amalgamates have determination. However, I would like to talk about another possible reason for this red text (plus I've kind of already talked in the first two parts how red doesn't mean determination). The True Lab is supposed to be that horror part of Undertale. This can be seen thanks to Alphys's unethical experiments, the amalgamated living beings, as well as the stressing atmosphere of the place in general accompanied by the music. Red text could also be a part of it. Red is the color that reminds people of blood, which can strike disgust and fear in some people, especially younger audiences. Red being there for being scary is one thing I've mentioned previously in this post, in one instance even relevant to the True Lab, though it was a darker red. Hence, due to that other possibility, among with a few possible others, I will not assume that the red text means Determination. This, much like a lot of the lore of Undertale, is ambiguous at best. The lore being ambiguous is one message I wanted to pass to the Undertale community. The ambiguous lore makes people easily have headcanons and think of them as facts since people repeat over and over that they are facts without even trying to do proper research. Yet when you think about it twice, there can be many explanations for many, many different things. Many things also aren't as obvious as they are talked about when you research the lore properly. But at this point, most people have been told from their very first introduction to the Undertale community that some interpretations of the lore are facts, and people try to just show correlations (sometimes very doubtful ones) just to prove their beliefs, while not admitting the flaws of their research process or of the theories themselves. I won't claim that my investigation is perfect. To be truly perfect, I would need to analyze every single bit of text in Undertale, even the one that could seem irrelevant. I do it to a certain extent, and I come up with unexpected ones, but looking at everything would take a way too long time. I doubt any analysis is perfect, but I also try to find the flaws in my own and this will easily be visible in part 4. As for now, have a good planetary rotation.

#undertale #undertale lore #undertale analysis #determination

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astarab1aze · 1 month

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Viresca Trivia

Viresca sees magic as a tool, a neutral force, that is not subject to nightfolk or human moral scruples. A means to an end.

She is not afraid to kill, though she has never done so before.

She has some reservations about how far she's willing to go in order to achieve her goals; The prospect of having blood on her hands does, occasionally, give her pause.

Viresca likes to snack; She can never be seen with the same snack twice.

The Mandragora Family’s ancestral home is located in the small town of Scarcroft outside of Leeds, which she would one day like to repair and reclaim, but there's another in London.

She is a natural on a broom and was once in a competition to see how fast and sharp she could fly, with some flair - she won.

She duels as if her wand is a whip, a 'flowing extension of herself', like a fencer does their rapier - her footwork could use improvement, however.

Viresca is allergic to blackwyrm slime.

She hates being able to see certain things others cannot, observant and perceptive in the best and worst of scenarios.

She adores Gretl's and Simone's.

She hopes to one day enter and compete in a (legal, and illegal) dueling tournament to prove her mettle.

Her wand handle is made from carven blackstone (a type of marble).

She can dance....er, passably, but she's better off as arm candy, in her opinion.

She is intimately familiar with torture curses.

She also desperately dreams of escaping; From what is unclear, but may be a maladaptation / trauma causing her to feel this way.

She may be liberal with secret information, if it benefits her.

She doesn't know why, but she particularly dislikes certain people and is sometimes quite open to being outright rude to them.

She finds dueling to be great fun, actually - hence why she's endeavored to become so good at it.

She's not afraid of dragons, deathbloom, brachio, vampires, ghosts, or anything like that; Specific scenarios, however, different beast.

The only plants she has a way with are kanpari, gangrove lilies, and morphagora.

She's partly deaf in her right ear.

She has a profound respect for some of her former professors, particularly Salem Morteatum, Madame Theresa Davenport, and Vexine Whitlock ; Ms. Whitlock reminds her of her grandmother, in a way.

She keeps a journal - very well-guarded, mind you.

She's good with children, despite being uncomfortable around them.

She does not like mirror travel; There's a vague worry she might be trapped inside her mirror forever.

She occasionally likes to draw, though much of her work is academic or related to her work as an herbaflorist.

Her favorite time of day is midnight; That's when she gets the most done.

She smells like cool rain water and primordia root - and oats. Really, like breakfast on a cool, rainy morning.

‘Viresca’ is an anagram for her great-grandmother’s name, Viscera - as in gore.

Her blood status is impure; To what degree is unknown, and entirely irrelevant.

The family tree is quite expansive, but they lost track some 4-5 generations back.

#➥ Viresca.#/ it's just silly character details really

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a-dotrivenitupontop · 9 months

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So someone on Reddit found what Edgar Minnows was an anagram for — “SD won R in game” — Sebastian Drapewood won his game of Connect 4 against Edgar, and what he won was Roxana, whom the Redditor speculated was originally Sebastian’s pet, and it was she Edgar won off of Sebastian as a child, not a playing card. So when Edgar ‘cut a corner off the playing card’, he actually killed Roxana, and that is why we didn’t see her moving on Edgar’s shoulder in any of the scenes set afterward. Also meaning Sebastian probably killed Edgar, for just as low-key but more-sympathetic a reason than Yasper killed Xavier in the first season — hence Sebastian’s name being an anagram for “We poisoned a bastard.” Apparently a later scene of the Connect 4 side showed Sebastian did win, not Edgar.

ok first i wanna say that this theory may be true. like i can see it happening and i can see it being a great motive. the redditor who came up with this is probably smarter than i am. (also after sebastians accent was revealed as fake ive learned to not discredit reddit’s theories lol)

but at the same time i feel like there should be more evidence? like another redditor said if we anagram everything surely there’s going to be something we can link as a clue (especially if we’re counting initials as actual words).

and regarding the connect four, i think the changes in the board should be noted in this theory. so far the pattern is:

•ep1- black wins 2 ways

•ep2- white wins 1 way

•ep3- b wins 1 way (im pretty sure)

•ep4- no connect 4 shown (also sus but that’s another theory for another day)

•ep5- w wins 3 ways

i may be digging too deep or in the wrong direction here but this leads to this pattern from the winning lines:

(forgive my phone’s shitty quality)

maybe it means something? is there a code that this could represent? is there a language with an alphabet similar to these symbols?

however!! we might only need to use the original connect 4 that appears in aniqs episode meaning this theory is correct and my effort was for nothing. who knows!

either way, all will be revealed in like four weeks……

#for the record i am very ready to eat my words #oh well if im wrong then at least i can learn for season three #the afterparty #edgar minnows #sebastian drapewood #i also do like how this theory explains roxana not moving (something i didn’t notice before but probably should’ve lol)

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a-la-campanella · 3 months

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Dreaming of Garbage

AKA misc. Tatalov lore dump lol

It's a little late now to be making an analysis post on the Sweet Dreams "Penacony "The Great Tatalov" video, but who cares? I'm still working an Interstellar Journey post and that video has been out for even longer.

The video, for the most part, alternates between two speakers: Shatana and Himeko. Shatana, of course, is Natasha (they share voice actors, and Shatana is an outright anagram of Natasha). Of the two, Shatana is the only one who actually mentions Tatalov outright. Himeko's voicelines can be read as entirely unrelated to the whole Tatalov plotline going on, so for the purposes of this post, I'm ignoring what she has to say.

Most players won't remember this, but the first mention of Tatalov actually occurred as far back as 1.0 through interacting with a trash can in Boulder Town. (Thanks to u/merofsilence for pointing it out, I didn't catch that!) The dialogue is about the defeat of Garbage King Tatalov, by the hands of a younger trash can.

I... highly doubt these roles are fulfilled by Sampo and the Trailblazer, mostly because even in dreams we'd be able to sus out that Sampo wouldn't talk like that, but I digress; it's a dream at the end of the day. (I also have my doubts about the big trash can that Sampo fights being Tatalov, but that's more likely.) Though I do think this will be the same end we see for Tatalov when we arrive in Penacony, though.

The scenes with garbage or those taking place in Belabog are from the Tatalov dream; everything else is from Penacony, or a dream-like version of the planet. One of the inspirations for Penacony seems to have been Inception, a movie about dreams within dreams; so there are layers to these dreams, right? Reality is Penacony as it truly is/the hotel, and the first level of the dream is where all the fun parts of Penacony are. This makes Tatalov's story in a later level.

I imagine that part of the Penacony story (minus the details of interactions with other characters and actual larger-scale conflict) will go something like this:

The Astral Express crew checks into the hotel on the planet and then gets escorted to their respective rooms to enter the dreaming state. After arriving at their rooms, everyone starts to sleep.

We encounter Firefly in the first level of the dream. The photos with Firefly? She's just showing us around. Seems to have been some kind of conflict we're protecting her from and a secret she's hiding from us, too.

Enter the next dream? Or we enter that dream later.

The Trailblazer's dream brings them back to a Belabog populated by Trash Cans (hence the setting being Belabog), where we reunite with our beloved trash and the Big Bad Sampo.

We meet Shatana, played by Natasha, and she begs us for our help to rise up against Tatalov, who regardless of if he is or isn't represented by Sampo, is the Great Evil we must defeat to save the trash.

She tells us, "since that thing from beyond the sky arrived here along with the Eternal Freeze, Tatalov's eyes have been blinded." The thing from beyond the sky is, perhaps, meant to be the Stellaron, and it turned Tatalov into a poor ruler (maybe a reference to Cocolia?). "We must force the Garbage King to mend his ways under the banner of Skyfire" is just fighting back against Tatalov. Skyfire is a curse we can apply on enemies from Foxian Tales of the Haunted to make them explode, dealing Fire DMG... so probably a reference to that, and a nod towards Preservation Trailblazer. If Skyfire here is meant to mean anything else, then my guess is as good as yours.

Firefly might be sharing this dream with us? We do seem to share the dream with her when exploring Penacony (re: speculation that she exists only in a dream), and there was a trash can next to us when we got bombed, followed by Firefly's comment of "what kind of nonsense is this?" Our dream is too much for her, whoops.

I have no fucking clue who Sampo is talking about when he says "Follow me, you two." Like, one of the two people is probably the Trailblazer, but I'm skeptical to assume the second person could be Shatana... so who knows. Maybe Firefly? Anyways, he appears at some point to get in our way and terrorize the trash cans. What a cruel, evil man...

Success(?) and defeat of Tatlov to follow. The dream might end there, or we might enter a new dream, who knows.

As all this is happening, everyone else is down to business and battle and whatever is going down apparently involves whales. Based off the rough timeline from White Night, this would be during the dreaming time.

It's an absurd story we've dreamt up, but given how fleshed out some of the details are and the full on movie poster at the end of the video, it's likely a story we've been thinking about for a while. Trailblazer's Main Character arc to save the Trash Cans!

Parts I wasn't sure where to fit in timeline-wise:

So a massive Sampo throwing us into to Penacony? That happened, I guess. It could be a dream or it could some Alice In Wonderland mushrooms shit, since there was a massive March at some point too, though that was in a dream, I think...

We may have crashed in front of Robin and Sunday after we were tossed down. The ground from the crater looks similar to the ground in the photos.

There's also a normal-sized "Sampo" (he seems to be manipulated by Sparkle, what with the koi fish flying out of the way to reveal him with glowing eyes) who puts us to sleep at some point outside of the Tatalov dream, perhaps to force us back into that dream.

The part with green framing? I guess that's Sam's POV since the green is similar to his wings. And Acheron teams up with Black Swan and the Trailblazer to fight Sam... why is Black Swan fighting. Does she have something personal against the Stellaron Hunters? She's literally a meme, what the fuck. This is before Acheron has drawn her sword, so this is a different point in time than the one shown in White Night.

There's a quick sequence that doesn't really mean a lot yet; some bubbles, the... watch thingy or whatever floating in Penacony (I didn't pay attention during the livestream, no clue what its called), and some ID cards or some shit. I can't make out the letters well enough to translate them to English but it's at 1:04 for anyone interested.

#honkai: star rail #hsr #recall and retrieve #building an accelerated tree #trailblazer #tatalov #sampo koski is back! even if it's just a dream!#watched inception last week for this lol #it is. a christopher nolan movie alright #the movie is fine but #I think he could benefit a lot from giving female characters a personality #he'd write better females characters if he just made them all male first then genderbent some later... </3

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shadowealth · 8 months

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00Continued talk on breasts00 :: Cosmo Martha Walsh

Various collected data over summer ‘23

~ this summer, my area xxperienced heavy plasmatic thunder/lightning storms with insane winds causing tornado like damage within a matter of minutes. During one of these storms, I was caught driving in my car and was downloaded with information and moved to listen to Marsha Walsh, the voluptuous heavy set Queen whose voice is as electrifying as the storm I was in.

From that I gathered that some women are born full of adipose because it grants them the blubber (like a whale) to withstand large amounts of electricity. Hence, #HerVoice :: #Sonar

#ThisIsSHE

~ xxplained to a male that they are attracted (really fetishize) the big breast wman due to an unconscious desire 2 xxperience her bellowing Milky Way [[&& I had to correct him as he said the most divine woman is petite, no sir. Man’s categorization of #HerPower is now rendered impotent in this Age]]

~ had a discussion wit my sis on the big heartedness of a woman wit a voluptuous chest (no mistake, this does not mean that she is nice/friendly or even a good person. I’m speaking energetically, not moralistically). At the same time we was having an intersecting conversation on iron(red)-copper(blue~green spectrum) metabolism, and copper’s connection to Venus, the heart, the thyroid, & Libra(Saturn::Justice::Balance) ~ Taurus’s (🌑🌘🐂🥛🌌) natural opposition as Venusian ruled signs. Copper is highly conductive:: remember what I said about adipose, blubber and high amounts of electricity. Copper soothes this exchange between Iron and Oxygen (which is highly reactive), giving blood it’s charge. Prepare to see Methalyne Blue touted as a supplement within health and bio hacking spaces. Prepare to see more about the light environment and mitochondrial health.

~ another discussion wit @themadsorceressgrimoires, this time about spiranolactone which is administered to patients for several reasons. We discovered the presence of spira lactones exist in several plant species, and that the LACTONES are the tonifying (root word, tone) milk (root word, lac) that refines the unrelenting Spira (which stands for spiral).

~ Ms. Webster’s word play 🕸👩🏾‍💻🕷🤭😆

Lac (a red resin [[hidden within milk]]::Lacto- [ever flowing milk, which is why they also gave us the word lack::lock, as means to impose limits on this nourishment]::Galaxy::the Gal (girls) + XY (& boys) within Galaxy, playing together making up Her Milky Way:: Buddhists, the ones who mock the Tibet Mthr, called this Way the TAO (anagram) OAT; from this, see OAT MILK, AvenUS SatiVA, warm milk over frayed mylein sheath; lions mane mushroom; nourishing latexes, polysaccharides, and steroidal compounds)); OAT axis (ovary, adrenal, thyroid) within mammalian species):: DAO (decentralized autonomous organizations) coming with Web3 are named this way for a reason as A.I. is a replica of the O.I. (organic intelligence)::galactagoge [herbs that stimulate breast milk]::lactones::lactic acid produced by muscles::etc. etc.

~ my childhood bestie breast feeding her first daughter and the changes to her breasts. Her transformation and how oh so beautiful my god daughter is 🤍 TT loves u Cucamelon

~ the TT (which stands for auntie) also stands for Titties::as Auntie loves & fortifies her god babies, nieces & nephews from unseen places

#biological storytelling #Venus Rx #Late nite digs #Intuitive Data Aggregation

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the-unrelated-theorist · 9 months

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Although I have yet to hear whether Toby ever read any of Philip Pullman, I do believe that His Dark Materials was probably a major influence on Unrelated, because we have both a character named Asriel and a knife-wielder who uses their knife to open dimensions.

Also, I can't help but notice that Queen describes Determination as "the power of the will", and the boy who wielded the Subtle Knife in His Dark Materials was named Will. I would almost bet there's a connection there.

Frankly, I will be extremely surprised if someone was to ask Toby if he was inspired by Philip Pullman and Toby says he's never read any of him. I mean, Asriel's name could be a coincidence- we know "Asriel" is a combination of ASgore and toRIEL, not to mention that "ASRIEL DREEMURR" is an anagram of "serial murderer." And I guess Asriel was also the name of an angel, hence the prophecies about the Angel. So that could be a coincidence, and I often wrote it off as such before DR Chapter 2. But man, when you bring that dimension-opening knife into the picture and say it has "the power of [the] Will", I'm having trouble believing it's not a Philip Pullman reference.

#possible inspirations #his dark materials #subtle knife #deltarune

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acourtofthought · 1 year

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I know your opinion on the whole True mates e/riel theory (which I likewise believe is horseshit), but I’d really love to know your take on the Rowaelin parallel E/riels claim backs them/this theory up.

Because personally, I think Lyria/Rowan/Aelin aligns with Jesminda/Lucien/Elain much more so than Lucien/Elain/Azriel.

Rowan and Lucien’s fierce love for their dead partners, the guilt they feel for their deaths, their surprise and conflicting feelings realizing someone else is actually their mate (especially in their internal battle with their spiritual/biological pull to Aelin and Elain)

I’m just confused (or maybe dumbfounded) on if E/riels genuinely believe Rowaelin parallels their ship, or if they’re grasping at straws to keep their ship alive? Sometimes I think the latter given the nature of the ship war(s) and how they always leave Gwyn out of this discussion, but other times I see this argument used so often I’m like…are y’all fr???

I'm in full agreement. There are no similarities between Az and the Rowan / Lyria / Aelin set up. Rowan was tricked into believing Lyria was his Mate so that upon her death, he was be so devastated he'd align with Maeve giving her leverage when Aelin came into their lives. Lucien wasn't tricked but he fully believed Jesminda was his Mate. Tamlin tells Feyre he was waiting for the Mating Bond to snap when she was murdered and he spent the next however many centuries unable to let go of her. Hence why he was so shocked to find out Elain was his Mate. Jesminda is Lyria in this situation (the situations are different but for comparison purposes, they are the "mistaken Mates" of Rowan and Lucien). The real Mates, who came as a shock to Rowan and Lucien, are Aelin and Elain. (I sort of love that their names are anagrams of one another). Adding Az into the mix as her "real Mate" makes the storyline overly recycled. Jesminda is my Mate! Gasp! Elain is ACTUALLY my Mate! But Wait! Elain is ACTUALLY Az's REAL Mate and Vassa is Mine! I've seen the argument that Elain and Lucien are being tricked into believing they're Mates in order to keep them away from their "actual" Mates (Vassa and Azriel). But seriously, that argument falls flat the second it's out there. That theory only works if Elain and Lucien were spending time together because they believed in their Mating Bond. As it stands, Elain is refusing to spend time with Lucien because of the Mating Bond and has instead turned to Azriel because he comes with no strings and is someone she can focus on so she doesn't have to actually deal with her real problems. And Lucien is living with Vassa. I really do think readers are reaching way too much with this theory. Before Elain even went into the Cauldron, Lucien was the only one compelled to take a step towards her. He was the one desperate to go to her after she was Made. His arrival was the reason that Elain finally took steps out of her comatose state and he was the one who sat in his room thinking of things that could help Elain even though he wasn't allowed to be near her unless the sisters allowed it. I like that Elain and Lucien have a Mating Bond but even without it, he's just been a really amazing character in terms of wanting to be there for her at her lowest. Rowan was there for Aelin at her lowest. Lucien was desperate to be near Elain at her lowest and eventually was there for her at her lowest. Azriel was in love with another female when Elain was at her lowest. If he were her actual Mate, he's the worst Mate in the entire series. (as a disclaimer because I imagine the Anti Gwynriels would have a rebuttal to this, I'm pretty sure SJM didn't even realize she was going to create the character of Gwyn when she wrote the Sangravah storyline in ACOMAF or that she could be Azriel's Mate so you can't use the same argument. Not to mention, Gwyn was healing in the library where Azriel did not go. She had also been SA by a Male and the survivors in the library needed time away from other Males. Elain was in the same house as Azriel where he, Rhys and Cassian were all permitted entry and there was no reason he needed to avoid her. Claiming Az and Elain are real Mates while realizing he could have cared less about her when she was down the hall from him for months and extremely distraught while another Male fought to make it to her side makes Az look terrible).

#gwynriel #elucien #mating bond #pro lucien vanserra #jesminda #rowan and aelin

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