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reispinkoveralls · 2 days
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The thing about Elucien is if you got them alone for 20 fucking minutes without the inner circle watching like hawks, they'd be best friends. Probably start holding hands without even realizing it.
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treadsuren · 3 days
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I can't believe Lucien's sentence: "I can't stand to be in the same room as her for more than two minutes"It has been misunderstood so many times.I mean, it's pretty obvious that it's hard for Lucien to be in the same room as Elain and put up with his need to kiss her, hug her, touch her. That willpower that he must search within himself is what makes his time with Elain unbearable.But suddenly I find people saying that Lucien can't stand being around Elain and would just like to be away from her.People, Lucien forces himself to stay away from Elaine.
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bunnyshideawayy · 1 day
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i think the way male characters interact with each other over a woman says a lot about how they view said woman.
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it’s clear here Rhysand is worried not only about the political ramifications but also personal ramifications Azriel’s clear LUSTING after Elain will cause.
its stated and made obvious multiple times throughout this chapter that Az is sexually attracted to Elain….and that’s it. His lust and desire and ENTITLEMENT is made so clear that Rhysand has to step in and reprimand him before it blows up in everyone’s face.
Elain is obviously infatuated with him, and Azriel is playing off of that to sleep with her and then what? he literally doesn’t know because he’s so blinded by lust and jealousy that his brothers have mates he cannot see past getting Elain naked. i believe it’s perfectly implied here he only sees Elian as a challenge, and should he ever get the chance to actually sleep with her he will no longer be equally as infatuated. He won’t even admit to himself he’s not over Mor.
I’m just pointing this out as many people seem to have skipped half of his chapter after seeing the word “arousal” and running with it. if you actually read the chapter as it is written it’s actually pretty gross to see people justifying Azriel’s behavior and mindset.
I personally don’t really care who Elain ends up with, if i wrote the story she’d stay single and living her best life baking and gardening and volunteering in the community but alas this is a romance at the end of the day. but i will not ignore clear implications from the story, Az sees her as a sexual pursuit. i can’t wait to see how the next acotar will play out and if gwyn will receive the necklace / wear it as it would prove to the readers and Elain my point was correct, hopefully not though the “OW” trope is so icky to me, but as i said it would add to my point. If Az truly liked Elain for Elain he wouldn’t back down from her or from Rhys (although this seems to be a problem for both Az and Cass) and he wouldn’t give this necklace he meant FOR* Elain to another woman on some random whim. I could go on and on but i’m so tired of seeing shippers justify and ignore this bs. Az shouldn’t be near any woman as long as he’s got this jealous and entitled mindset- Gwyn or Elain or whoever yall ship him with.
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lullabestie14 · 2 days
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“We want a rejected mating bond” “we want Elain to reject Lucien” “we’re tired of mates we need chosen love”
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starsreminisce · 2 days
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When Elain expresses her need for sunshine and her mate is the heir of the Day Court, it should hold greater significance than just her getting vitamin D, which she could still totally get from Lucien, let's be real.
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elucienscourt · 2 days
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There’s a huge difference between scouring every single SJM post, what colours she’s wearing, book props in the background of her interviews, depending on biased articles that Sarah didn’t even write etc, for “hints” on your favourite ship, and then actually having evidence from the authors own mouth.
And that’s what makes Elucien stand out compared to other ships in the ship war. Elucien is the only one that has been confirmed by the author herself. They’re the only one with proof from SJM. They’re the only one she has openly doted on even after the acowar era, where 98% of another ship’s interactions occur.
They are the only ship that is confirmed to be mates, not only by the book, but by SJM herself. And they’ve been confirmed mates for 8 years. 8 years and the bond is still in tact with Sarah showing no intention of breaking it up at any point!!!
…yet somehow Eluciens are the “stupid and delusional” ones.
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Y’all notice the only time Elain “seeks out” Azriel is when Lucien is there lol.
Maybe she’s horny because Lucien is there. Who knows.
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simmanin · 20 hours
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“Elain doesn’t even like Lucien!!” “Elain shrinks around Lucien!!!”
IS THAT NOT THE WHOLE POINT??? You’re telling me you DON’T live for the tension and angst??? Feyre “not liking” Rhysand was literally the best part of their relationship. And Nesta “not liking” Cassian was the best part of theirs. BECAUSE IT BUILT TENSION. Their little snide remarks had me giggling and kicking my feet in the air. I live for it.
I wanna watch Elain avoid her feelings, I want her to hate Lucien (just a little bit), I want her to resent her current position. I want her to feel lost and I want her to realize that maybe home isn’t a place but a person (It’s horribly cheesy but we are reading SJM). I want her to go on journeys and missions and find her boldness, outside of Velaris. I want her to grow as a person and maybe even realize that Lucien isn’t so bad. I want her to heal and be able to have conversations with her mate, without shrinking away. But we have to see the dark before we can see the light (😉).
Afterall, we ARE reading fictional books about fictional people, give me all of the angst and tension. All of the traumas and growths and healing. I wanna sob and laugh and groan and smile all throughout Elain’s book.
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zenkindoflove · 17 hours
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I know everyone likes a good hate to love tension. It can be very satisfying and delicious dynamic.
But I just don't see it for Elain and Lucien.
Instead of "I hate you and I want you and that makes me hate you more" (Elain), I want more of a "I don't hate you. Not even a little bit, and that makes my confusion over what we are or could be worse. I'm so nervous around you because you make me feel things when I don't even know you" (Elain). I want Lucien to think "at least if she hated me, I would know she felt anything for me at all". I want nervous glances and polite words filled with tension and apprehension. I want there to be confusion, assuming how the other must feel about them, rather than heated jabs and deliberately pushing each other away. I want a slip in resolve and propriety where a comment teeters on too flirtatious and suddenly in an instant the atmosphere has shifted. I want questioning eyes and tight lips to morph into shy grins and coy glances. And all at once the strangers who are predestined soulmates are finding themselves unofficially courting each other. When the heck did that happen? But it feels so right and they can't stop now. I want their tension to be about whether the other will find them worthy of being their mate because there is now so much pressure knowing exactly what they are to each other. I want curiosity and missed moments, until finally one of them can't stand it and makes the first move, and the other is so relieved it's not just them.
Don't give me a watered down enemies to lovers with antagonistic fights and saying things they don't mean. That isn't Elain nor is it Lucien. Two characters who know how to carry themselves, restrain their instincts, and show the world what it wants to see about them. I want them stuck in a game of hiding how they really feel, thinking the other doesn't know, feeling hints of those emotions down the bond, until one day the silence is defeaning and the stiffness breaks with finally asking the question. Preferably in the rain.
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animezinglife · 2 days
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Maybe it's my age talking, but I do think the Azriel vs. Lucien thing is blown way out of proportion.
There's a difference between attraction and being in love with someone, and another difference still between having a crush and being in love.
TL/DR: I genuinely think the biggest piece people overlook in this Azriel vs. Lucien puzzle is Elain herself and the layers of her internal conflict. Personally, I suspect it's much bigger than them both.
Here's the thing:
Azriel is gorgeous and is basically described as looking like a dark, fallen angel. He went into Hybern's war camp and got her out of there alongside Feyre, took her in his arms and flew her to safety. He's been kind to her, too. He hasn't pushed her to talk and has a quiet, strong presence that I'm sure is quite comforting to her.
There is zero expectation with him--zero pressure that she would even be able to create in her own mind. There's no "mate" term dangling over them and no friends or family breathing down their necks at every turn, acting like they should be supervised for something they didn't do. They're the only two people in their current circle (exempting Mor, though that's a bit different) who are still single. They both are constantly bombarded with this idea of "mates" and being on the outside of what that means.
I don't think it would be a reach at all to call her and Az friends.
It's not odd or confusing to me at all that she would have a crush on him; be attracted to him, want him to kiss her, or even to sleep with him. It seems completely natural.
I would argue that Az has been a gentleman towards her (and I will stand by the fact that internal frustrations are very different than actions, and that something expressed in confidence to your brother is nowhere near the same as acting out of turn), but I also wonder, too, if there's a part of her that makes her think she doesn't want a gentleman right now.
That while she's handled her trauma very differently than Nesta (thank the Cauldron), there's a part of her that's taken that robbing of life to heart and Graysen's whiny bitch comments/rejection to heart. That it's impacted her self-worth to make her think she is something "other" that's beyond saving or isn't worth the kind of fairytale love she always dreamed of for herself.
If I read into it perhaps a bit too much, I think Az is a little off when he assumes Elain doesn't know about the types of things he's done, whether that be atrocities or something more private. She might even see her involvement in killing Hybern to be some dark thing outside her nature she's having difficulty coming to terms with.
I'm not at all saying Az isn't a good guy who's deserving of love too, but I don't think what Elain's looking for with him in that extra chapter has much of anything to do with love. I think she wants a distraction with someone she thinks understands.
I think there's a chance, too, she's overwhelmed by Lucien being in the same house. Overwhelmed by that strong, involuntary pull she feels towards him and that she doesn't know what to make of him at all.
I will say it until I'm blue in the face, but I genuinely think the only barrier--the only real issue--that prevents her from warming to Lucien in the same or a similar way is that heavy, life-altering M-word that got slapped onto them both on arguably the worst day of her life.
He hasn't had the luxury of being around her as part of her family like Az has. Hasn't had the luxury of Elain seeing him fully through her own eyes without the "mate" label being forced into their lives. Yet it doesn't lessen the pull she has towards him, and that combined with everything she's experienced of mates thus far can't exactly be easy to process, especially after a brutal rejection, lost love, and lost future.
She isn't able right now to see the bond as a choice.
She doesn't even get the chance to evolve naturally into seeing it as a choice with the way her family hovers and breathes down her neck. How suddenly the most un-purity culture people in existence magically start caring a great deal about Elain's choices in that regard and insert themselves into chaperone roles like Elain and Lucien are two teenagers who can't control themselves at a junior high dance.
How confusing and contradictory that must be for Elain, who's been condescended and told by her sisters (namely Nesta) that the Fae don't live by human customs when it comes to sex or anything of the like. How the one time she did take that chance with someone she thought she loved it only got thrown back in her face by both Graysen and Nesta?
And what do we know about Lucien? He's devastatingly beautiful. Elegant yet rakish. An intelligent, educated, trained courtier and the son of a high lord. Even Feyre--a happily mated female--can't go five minutes in her internal monologues without noting how attractive and sexy he is even when he's doing absolutely nothing and minding his own business.
She knows he's Feyre's friend. She's heard some of the stories there. So she is aware, then, of at least some of the qualities her sister sees and admires in him despite their current rocky relationship.
Lucien is, in every way, being respectful of Elain's wishes and giving her space even though her rejection hurts him. He's still warring with the guilt of his own lost love in his mind and with a sense of unworthiness. He's been achingly thoughtful towards her; the epitome of a gentleman.
Elain would know that especially with that bond she doesn't fully understand, he's not someone she could simply have a pleasant distraction with. That he's someone who could see through her in every way she wants to hide and that she would never be able to hide in the mere idea that he simply doesn't press her (in the way Az doesn't press her).
Az feels safe right now and someone still attached to her comfort zone. He's a place she can continue to hide without fully facing her present and future and all Prythian is.
She can't hide her pain or suffering from Lucien in the same way. She can't quietly stare out the window into the sunlight without him knowing and feeling exactly what she needs.
She knows--senses--that she won't be able to separate the most vulnerable fragments of herself from her bond with Lucien. Again, a bond she didn't choose, and doesn't currently see that she still has a choice in.
So, she turns away from it in every way she knows how and looks for new ways to do so.
The way people treat Elain when it comes to her love life is so predictably (to her) unlike how Feyre and Nesta have been treated. Elain has always been different from them both, especially when it comes to love and sex. She's more modest and more reserved; has never been the type to fall into bed with some random man or Fae male. She's more guarded; a bit more protective of her own heart.
Maybe, to some extent, there's something she feels she needs to prove to herself. That she can fit within this more sexually liberated Fae world and that she's not some outsider in need of being treated with kid gloves.
Az, in that capacity, is definitely not someone who will. He's also not someone she can't keep her guard up with and can't keep her vulnerability from.
It would not surprise me either if there's a part of her that wants to deter Luicen (thinking back to Mor's tactic of deterring Azriel when she slept with Helion), but more strongly and importantly, to deter and distract herself from the bond. She doesn't want to allow herself to feel anything towards him.
The fact that she does feel a strong pull and, more likely than not, an overwhelming attraction of some kind makes me think it wasn't fully coincidence that she approached Az on Solstice when Lucien was in the same house.
I think she very much wanted to tie someone else to what she's feeling and try to get Lucien, the bond, and that dreaded M-word out of her mind.
Running the risk of sounding crude, Az could probably achieve that at least temporarily.
But it'd come right back. It's always been interesting to me that everyone seems to note that their bond is strong despite nothing having happened between them yet.
Until Elain acknowledges that bond and Lucien one way or another, that internal conflict she's clearly feeling is never going to change for her.
Two things can be true at once: we can fully acknowledge that neither Elain nor Lucien had a choice in the bond snapping between them, and that until they face it, neither one of them are going to have much choice in anything else at all. Not beyond a meaningless tangle in the sheets with someone else.
I think it would've been worse in the long run for Elain to learn that the hard way.
I also genuinely don't think Elain understands that there's nothing wrong with her for being different than her sisters or being different than the Fae norms. That there's nothing wrong with her for struggling to process this or for being overwhelmed.
She's still healing. She still has wounds she hasn't addressed. She's still hiding and seeking distractions while growing restless about wanting more from her life and being frustrated by her sisters' low expectations.
Feyre and Nesta love her, and it's not the protectiveness from love in itself that's wrong.
But they're suffocating her.
Lucien is, in every way, a person who never could. He's something so different and "other" than what she's used to both as a human and as a Fae while also being a bridge between those worlds. He can function in both. He can thrive in both.
He can see, perhaps too clearly, all sides of her whether she likes it or not.
I think she also very much senses he's the type she could fall in love with. The type she'll never be able to fully distract herself from if she lets herself fall or take that leap.
Her heart's still wounded, and she's not ready to risk opening that again right now.
That doesn't mean she won't be later on, and that doing so won't be incredibly worth it.
She will never find herself or open that chance up to herself, though, if she also keeps hiding in only the channels she knows. The barriers--intentional or otherwise--set around her by her sisters.
I do think that's inevitably going to be the difference between them, though: Elain and Lucien are going to face their reality and find healing together and in each other, and in the process, are going to end up falling in love. Real, true, soulful love.
Lucien's love is the kind that will leave her wondering why she ever thought she'd known what love is in the first place, and what they could find in each other is the kind of love they both deserve.
I cannot wait to see Elain facing her fears when she's fully free to do so. I can't wait to see her getting to know Lucien without the IC watching their every move and making her feel like a caged animal. I can't wait to see her find her strength, her love, and the fullest extent of her freedom.
That's not to say that Az would not have many wonderful qualities he could offer her too, but the person she's going to find more of herself than she every thought possible with is Lucien.
Az, in my humble opinion, is likely going to end up with someone else. An actual mate where he'll find his own healing alongside.
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mr-agent-mulder · 2 days
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You know what I need.
I need a scene where something happens to Elain and the IC plus Lucien have the person responsible in their custody. And Lucien is all calm and diplomatic and everyone's totally shocked that he's not just ripping this man to shreds
Then Elain leaves the room
And before the door even closes all the way, before anyone can react, Lucien is on top of the assailant on the floor beating his face in and choking him
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the-new-ribbon · 10 hours
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All I have to say is that if Lucien wasn’t going to get his own book, why would SJM write that “autumn court males have fire in their blood and fuck like it too”? Like that is so important!
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clockwork-ashes · 19 hours
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All You Have Is Your Fire - Part VI
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Find Part I here :)
Summary: 'I can hear your heart beating through the stone.' For the briefest of moments, Lucien wondered if his mate would know exactly when his heart’s steady rhythm came to a sudden stop.
Note: A huge, huge thank you to the lovely @bettdraws who literally deserves all the credit and whose post inspired me to start writing this. I could not stop thinking about this head canon, and it was so kind of you to let me try and make a story from it :)
And a huge thank you to everyone reading!
Tag List: @anishake / @nocasdatsgay / @mybestfriendmademe / @talibunny30 / @halfbutneverwhole
Elain held tightly to Lucien’s arm, her fingers linked with his, her other hand clutching at his wrist. An anchor, his heartbeat a comfort as they were led down the winding halls of the ancient Forest House. 
Lucien looked entirely unbothered, hardly troubled now that he was no longer in the presence of his family. Elain asked herself how, considering she very much felt as though she had woken from a nightmare. Her thoughts were foggy, her knees shaking in relief with every one of her steps. Elain wanted to sob. 
Lucien’s thumb traced the curve of her knuckle and Elain breathed in deeply to calm her nerves. 
It was almost humiliating, being paraded past the Autumn guards stationed at every corner as she clung to Lucien. She had to remind herself that it was expected of mated couples to behave so attached, that she was not amongst human nobles that would judge her for any open affection that was displayed. 
Elain briefly wondered what Cora had done in her absence, and whether the other woman had been made aware of the change in their plans. Elain’s thoughts turned quickly, though, to what her sisters would say. Elain was sure that Nesta, more than Feyre, would be furious. 
Elain assumed she would have the Inner Circle’s complete support, but she could only guess at their displeasure with how the night had unfolded. 
Elain had told a High Lord that she was marrying his son, and she was only just beginning to realise the weight of such a promise. Elain felt her stomach flip, panic starting to creep along her spine. 
Just when Elain’s anxiety started to take root, Lucien’s hand gripped hers more tightly. Elain felt as he tried to reassure her through the bond, and her annoyance was enough to redirect her thoughts. 
The Forest House was strange and unlike any place she had ever been to. The rough stone walls were a warm grey, closer to the colour of sheep’s wool than to the cool toned rock she had become used to in Night. 
Elain was surprised to see all the wooden furniture considering all the torches, flames dancing and sparks falling but never setting anything alight. She walked by a couple elegant fireplaces set into the walls, but she saw no chimneys, no soot or ashes. 
Like the roots of an ancient tree, hallways connected and split off into different directions, an unnavigable maze. Elain wondered how anyone was able to find their way around. 
One of the guards shoved Lucien towards a flight of stone steps, urging him to turn. Elain frowned when she felt him tense, thinking perhaps he had been offended by the gesture. It was only as a voice rang out beside them that Elain guessed Lucien had scented someone’s presence. 
“Your services are no longer needed,” the words were rough, a demand. “I can take the prince and his lady to their shared suite from here.” 
Much to Elain’s surprise, the guards obeyed. In the time it took for them to leave, Elain had turned her attention to the new arrival.  
The man was handsome, Elain could admit. His short hair a more copper shade of red, his eyes a bright hazel. He was pale, like most of the people she had seen in Autumn, and he looked battle-worn. A slashing scar cut across his throat, just visible above the fabric of his jacket. 
Even if Elain had not just been in a room with Beron Vanserra, she would have still been able to see the resemblance between the High Lord and the man who so obviously was another one of his sons. She took a step beck, knocking into Lucien’s side. 
The man raised a brow, but other than a passing glance, he paid her no mind. His focus was on Lucien, the torches on the wall flared. Elain wondered if that always happened, if flames simply responded to those in Autumn, a reflection of their emotions.
“Where’s Eris?” He snapped, like he had no patience for either her or Lucien. 
Her mate’s shoulders were stiff. “Is the loyal dog looking for its master?” Lucien’s drawl was taunting, as though he was expecting a reaction from his brother. His words were obviously meant to offend.
Elain could feel Lucien’s shock flooding the bond between them when his brother merely shook his head. 
“You always did cause so much trouble, Lucien,” he frowned, looking very much like Eris. With a sigh, he angled his chin to the flight of stairs in front of them. “Follow me.” 
Not like they had a choice, Elain thought. She could feel as Lucien turned to look at her, to check in, but she stared at his brother as he led them to a pair of thick oak doors. His attempt to comfort her was appreciated, but Elain truly thought she could not look at him without her anxiety once more taking hold. With a wave of his brother’s beringed hand, the doors opened to reveal a cosy space. 
The fireplace was already lit, comfortable carpets covered the stone floor, and by the arched window on the room’s other side was a large bed, fit for two. Elain blushed, forgetting for a moment that Lucien and her were to be married, of course their shared suite would have only one bed. 
Elain watched as Lucien’s brother waved his hand once again, this time lighting the candles littered on some of the wooden tables and nightstands. “I hope the rooms have been set to your liking. Should you need anything, let one of the guards know.”
Elain spoke for the first time since having left the throne room, “My lady’s maid was with me, I was wondering…” She trailed off, unsure of what to say next. 
“I’ll let Eris know,” the Autumn prince offered. “I’m sure he’s thought of everything.” There was no bitterness to his words, only an acknowledgement of his eldest brother’s very thorough planning.
Elain dipped her head in thanks, but he had already begun to leave. Elain looked to Lucien as he watched his brother warily, and he hardly seemed surprised when the other man paused at the room’s threshold. 
“Congratulations to the both of you on your engagement,” he said flippantly, over his shoulder. Elain could hear a flicker of doubt in his tone, perhaps a suggestion that he was not entirely convinced by their act. She wondered if Eris had mentioned it to him, if they were close enough to have shared such information. 
Elain noticed the irritation that flashed in Lucien’s eye, how the other one whirred. “Thank you, Callum.” 
It was clear to Elain that there was bad blood between the brothers, and while she was curious, Elain also knew that it would probably be very rude to ask Lucien about it. She watched as Callum left, glad that she no longer needed to play the role she had given herself.  
The doors slammed shut behind the Autumn prince, and Elain promptly let go of Lucien’s hand. She already missed the feeling, but to reach for him would be like an admission of how she so often longed for his touch when he was near. She put distance between them, almost tripping on the edge of the carpet in her rush. 
“Gods,” she mumbled, running her fingers through her curls. She closed her eyes, took a deep breath. Lucien’s scent, apples and summer mornings, lingered in the air. 
What have I done? 
Elain decided that she was a fool for coming to Autumn. She had no idea what she had gotten herself into, had been so desperate to save Lucien’s life that she had doomed them both. 
When Elain opened her eyes, she saw Lucien flexing his fingers, like the memory of her hand in his was enough to unsettle him. He had dark bruises along his jaw, clenched in what she thought was concern. There were blood stains, brown and aged, along the collar of his white shirt. A smear of dirt was on his temple and Elain could tell he had been treated poorly until she had come. 
Lucien was still the loveliest man Elain had ever seen, and she hated herself for believing it.  
“How in the hell did Feyre convince you to come for me?” Lucien asked, voice tired, like his own thoughts were weighing him down. 
Elain furrowed her brow, frowning at him. “Feyre?” She echoed, incredulous. 
At her question Lucien seemed to anger, only for a moment, before he spoke once more. “Rhysand, then, made you do this?” 
“No one made me do anything,” Elain hissed, keeping her voice down, remembering how careful Eris was with his words even when they had been alone. “I came for you because I chose to.” She was frustrated, angry that everyone assumed she could not make decisions for herself. It was with great effort that she kept her hands at her sides, that she did not begin pointing at Lucien with an accusing finger. 
“Why would you do such a thing?” Confusion and disbelief lingering in his words. 
“Because I felt like it,” she snapped, feeling very much like a child. Elain did not share with him that after so much death, so much change in the last few years, she did not think she could bear more. “And you should be thanking me, not questioning my motives.” 
Elain watched as he bent ever so slightly at the waist, the smallest of bows. He did not take his eyes off her as he said, “You have my thanks, Elain.” 
At the sound of her name falling from Lucien’s lips, Elain took a step towards him, the movement almost involuntary. “You shouldn’t call me that,” the impropriety of it all had Elain blushing, she attempted to tell herself that was why she could feel her heartbeat quicken. “You don’t have the right—”
“I think I do,” Lucien said with a shrug, “considering we’re about to be married.” 
It looked like he wanted to say more, but Elain interrupted. “It means nothing,” she was shocked at how snarled the last word was. “Nothing has changed between us,” her words held a finality to them.
Lucien ran a hand through his hair, “Not for one moment did I believe otherwise.” He sounded exhausted, Elain noticed. 
Briefly, Elain felt guilty for being upset with him.
Lucien shook his head, and as he spoke he did not look at her. “You shouldn’t have come to Autumn.” Elain could not say it with certainty, but she could have sworn fear leaked slowly down their shared bond. 
“Next time I’ll let you be killed,” Elain waved her hand dismissively. “What’s done is done, I can hardly tell your father I’ve changed my mind.” 
“I think we’re well past that,” Lucien confirmed. The silence between them was awkward, and Elain wished they had separate rooms, despite knowing it was for the best that they were together.
She could feel Lucien’s gaze on her, but Elain was looking at the comfortable armchair by the fireplace. She cleared her throat, “You take the bed.” 
Lucien did not argue with her, a testament to how utterly drained he must have been, Elain concluded. 
“Thank you, Elain,” he said softly, sincerely.
Elain was left with the impression that Lucien was thanking her for more than just the bed.
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ataraxiasflame · 2 days
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Though I’ll admit I’d prefer to have an Elucien book before a Gwynriel book, I won’t be devastated with either outcome. There are clues and reasoning for each being next.
BUT
The one thing I can’t stop thinking about is…all the hints from SJM regarding fate vs free will and choice with the mating bond would seem to imply that Elain’s book would need to come before Azriel’s right? Because if her book is last (and Az is mated to Gwyn) does Elain REALLY have much CHOICE left in who she ends up with? Lucien is the only remaining (existing) love interest. Yes she will still need to choose to be with him, but will that have the same impact when the alternative is Elain ending up alone?
The entire point of her figuring out what she wants aside from the bond will need to include her situation with Azriel and that wouldn’t really be applicable if he was no longer an option for her. I’m sure there are other plot lines that can be done but I don’t see the theme of fate vs free will becoming a main influence in those like it’s been hinted it will be.
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lullabestie14 · 22 hours
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Oh my God, look what I just discovered😭😭😭
So in 2021 Sarah did an interview saying that while she was finishing up ACOMAF and writing ACOWAR at the same time, she went out with her editor and she was drunk explaining what Stories she would like to tell. She said she wanted to tell the stories of Nesta, Elain, Mor, Azriel, to her editor.
Then two weeks later, her editor called her and told her “we want to buy the spin-offs”.
so now we know that she signed the spin-offs while she was working on MAF. she signed one of the spin offs as an “Elucien book”
Then later when MAF came out and after the drunk rambling with her editor. She said this:
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Now we know she signed the spin off before MAF release. Then in this comment she confirmed Elucien.
Then in 2021 she said this:
Sarah in 2021 literally confirmed her planning for the next book did not change from the rambling with her editor, the rambling that was before she confirmed Elucien!!😭😭
She’s basically saying that she did not change her mind on Elucien. 
Drunk rambling with her editor about the future stories —> signed the spin-offs —> MAF release —> the Facebook comment —> in 2021 saying it didn’t change from her drunk rambling.
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I said it once and I'll say it again, This is a quote that you have to pay close attention .
Feyre POV - A Court of Silver Flames (Barnes and Noble Exclusive Edition)
“Don't forget that gardening often results in something pretty, but it involves getting one's hands dirty along the way."
“And torn up by thorns," I mused, recalling a morning this past summer when Elain had come into the house, Her Right Palm bleeding from several gashes thanks to a stubborn rosebush that had pierced her gloves. The thorns had broken off in her skin, leaving sharp splinters that I’d had to pull free.I didn’t dare mention that if she had been wearing the enchanted gloves Lucien had gotten her last Solstice, nothing would have pierced them at all.
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