Honestly I feel like people can be pretty overdramatic about Omniverse. Like I don’t have a problem with people criticizing it but like damn you don’t have to spend so much time nitpicking a cartoon
I can kind of agree with this. But at the same time, if that's how people enjoy the show, they can! While I myself don't enjoy nitpicking, I understand why people would. They just want to see the best version of the show, that or... They don't like the show. Which, both are valid.
I enjoy the entire franchise for what it is, flaws and all. It fun to watch, it has an ungodly amount of lore, world building and potential, and it just has some of the most loveable characters.
And yes, while I have a bais for Omniverse in particular, it doesn't mean I dislike the rest of the franchise! I adore OS and UAF! I don't like putting the eras in boxes, at least, not anymore. Having this whole... {Iteration} is better than {iteration} argument is so tiring. The shows genuinely don't need to be put up against each other, especially just to elevate the enjoyment of another one. Just say you have a favorite one, and we can call it a day.
Another thing I've grown to dislike is people accusing the writers or designers or things, as if they were in the room while they were making the show. Like, it's perfectly fine to not like designs, writing decisions and other things in the show. Its also perfectly fine to criticize things in the show. That's normal! But going after the people who were involved in the making of it is kind of weird, and a bit mean-spirited. A lot of people forget how much time and love went into the making of this show, especially with Cartoon Network breathing down their necks the entire time. Being one of the most profitable IPs sounds like a good thing, but in reality, so much of what is done in the show is controlled by the company.
One of the biggest lies and misconceptions is the whole "DJW hated jetray, so he didn't put him in OV" thing. That's just... A lie! A straight up, boldfaced lie! CN is the one who decided which aliens got to be cut from OV, not DJW. Brainstorm almost wasn't in OV, because toy sales for that alien were very low. But they snuck him in as much as they could anyways. There were just... Some that couldn't make it in. And I think that's okay. Ben used almost all his known aliens in the show, and the ones that didn't make it were turned into background characters so the species still had a spotlight.
But yeah. Going back to the initial ask, I feel somewhat the same. People treat all of the shows (except maybe OS) really weirdly in this fanbase. Its either "UAF was too dark and edgy! It has terrible writing and animation" or "OV was too silly and corny! The writing sucked! It had a terrible art style!"
These can both be true for individuals. But their opinions don't make it objective. I don't think my opinions are objective, as my entire view and views on the show are subjective.
And I must reiterate. Criticism for the show is fine. Its good, and healthy to have criticism for a show you like. You don't have to like everything in a show. I don't like every single thing done throughout the franchise, but I can still say it's my favorite series ever.
Criticism ≠ lack of enjoyment
But saying your views are "the right views", and treating your opinions as objective, does tend to make it a less enjoyable fanbase.
As someone who spent a lot of time in the mindset where I was hyper critical of the show, I can say that I genuinely enjoyed the show less because of it. But as soon as I took a step back, accepted the show for it's flaws, understood that it's not perfect and it doesn't have to be, I fell in love with it all over again. I still have things I don't like. I still have nitpicks and criticisms. But I don't think that hinders my enjoyment of the franchise. And that only applies to me (and by extension, people who feel the same), as I'm not saying that those things don't affect other people's enjoyment.
My whole thing is, as long as you're being nice to the people in the fanbase, you're fine. You can talk negatively about any of the shows, as long as you treat other people with respect. Especially if they have different opinions. Shows don't have feelings. People do. Talking down to somebody for different views, headcanons, or a different way they enjoy the show is unhealthy.
You wouldn't believe how much hatred the fans have for each other for having differing opinions on things about the show. Like, I've seen people get genuinely mad at things like crossover ships or LGBTQ headcanons. It's crazy. Just let people enjoy the show how they want to enjoy it. And if you don't agree with someone, that's fine. Just don't make drama out of it. Or at least, don't involve the entire fanbase into it. Unless someone is doing something genuinely wrong. That's a whole different story, though, and a bit off the point.
Anywho, thanks for the ask! Sorry this was a long post, as the only thing I'm really critical of is the fanbase itself nowadays. But I do enjoy talking about the show, positively or negatively! I like understanding things better, and you don't understand things fully until you've heard the perspective of others, I like to think!
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This is a ramble about a post about the Harry Potter books (wishing they were not written)...
I Really Enjoyed the Geodyssey series by Piers Anthony (Isle of Woman, Shame of Man, Hope of Earth, Muse of Art... I never read the last book... Climate of Change)
I read the first 4 books many years ago, and I Really Enjoyed reading these books and the style of writing that spanned across many generations and time periods. I re-read this series many times over the years, and each time I enjoyed the stories and the characters.
Piers Anthony is a prolific author that has written a plethora of books. I have only read the Geodyssey series, and not any of his other works.
And then something happened and the reputation of Piers Anthony changed from 'respected prolific sci-fi and fantasy author' to 'creepy creep'... He was writing too much about panties and female bodies and teenage sexuality and he is no longer popular or respected 😶
These things are confusing and sad.
Many times I have experienced emotional cruelty from others in the form of 'You like/enjoy (random media)? Then you must be the kind of awful/evil/wrong person who supports (inappropriate behaviors of the creator of that media)!'
These things are confusing and sad.
I imagine that about 98% of Creatives are Normal Humans that will be sometimes good and sometimes bad, but always Humans that are Going Through It, making mistakes and learning, and never perfect... And only about 1% of Creatives are perfectly evil rotten humans, and only about 1% of Creatives are perfectly good kind humans. The individual that consumes media is not responsible for the actions of the media creator. I guarantee that all humans have enjoyed a work of art/music/literature that was created by someone that they would be repulsed by, if they were to know the creative personally. Should this diminish the experience of enjoyment that the individual feels upon consuming the media?
For example... Michaelangelo was secretly queer but openly hatefully homophobic. In person he was bitter, condescending, sadistic, and rude. He did not bathe, and upon his death he had had the same pair of stockings on for So Many Years that it was necessary to scrape them off of his skin with a spatula. Meeting him in person would not be a pleasant experience for most humans... But he gave us David and La Pieta and the Sistine Chapel and So Much More! Should the Beauty of those works be diminished because they were created by an asshole?
And Jared Leto is a bad person and a bad actor, but Mr. Nobody is still an emotionally beautiful and thought provoking film.
There were too many examples, across all media, and through out all time. Should you choose to only consume media that was created by perfect humans, it would be necessary to live bereft of Art.
I perceive Art like this... There is a Collective Consciousness of humanity's ideas and imagination (the noosphere) and Creations are conducted into this realm of reality (born) through the Creatives (conduits). Consider the Michael Sheen quote/acting advice about the characters they portray not being able to exist unless they open themself and channel that out into the world (paraphrasing)... Consider a child being born... Is that child an extension of the parent? Responsible for the behaviors of the parent? Or is it its own entity that should be perceived by its own merits? Creations of Art are the manifestations of ideas and imagination that have been born through the conduit of Creatives... Creations of Art are the Children of Creatives. Should you be repulsed by a beautiful child because its parent is ugly or vulgar?
Have been thinking on this for a day or so... And just wanted to submit these thoughts for your consideration.
(I agree 100% that JK Rowling is a jerk and this ramble is Not About That)
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Good morning!
It's definitely a. Complicated subject? I agree that people shouldn't be harassed for what they enjoy in media, though. Someone who harasses or belittles others for what they enjoy in media will always be 100x worse than the person that's enjoying the "bad/problematic" media.
I personally could never read the Harry Potter books after what happened with JKR, but I do understand that there's a good amount of people who read the stories *before* the transphobia stuff came out, and to a lot of those people the series means something to them. There is some degree of separating the art from the artist, although it's impossible to do that entirely.
I think it's mostly fine as long as one acknowledges the problems that a work does have, things in the work that are. Prejudiced, for example. Although I do also understand that there's a lot of people that would rather not be. Reminded about Harry Potter, or talked to about it, or it upsets them when there's references to it.
Both of those people—people that are attached to Harry Potter and keep talking about it and making fanwork for it, and people that don't want to talk about it and having it referenced makes them uncomfortable— are valid. As long as nobody's harassing or belittling anyone else. Although, I will note that, while I can't control what anyone decides to do with their money bc it's their money, even the people who are still fans shouldn't buy things that are going to give money to JKR.
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