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ms-dos5 · 29 days
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You too could be at VCF East watching my computer shit itself for everyone’s entertainment
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everyone shut up this is ACTUALLY what fans of different composers are like
Mahlerians are PROUD TO BE ABSOLUTELY INSUFFERABLE DRAMA QUEENS, THE LIKES OF WHICH EVEN THE WAGNER CULT COULD NEVER SO MUCH AS ASPIRE TO BE. WE ARE ONE WITH THE UNYIELDING EBB AND FLOW OF THE BOUNDLESS UNIVERSE, DAMN IT ALL!
Shostakovich fans are like Mahler fans except they actually understand what sarcasm is. We also all really like the Muppets for some reason. Most of us own cats and likely have at least one mental illness.
Liszt fans are either tweenagers who love anime or salty old pianists who know a disturbing amount about music theory. These two factions are constantly at war.
Copland fans are either very, very far right or very, very far left. Either way, neither side actually listens to all of Copland's repertoire.
Tchaikovsky fans are either Russian grandmas or LGBT orchestra kids on Tiktok. Either those or the one noob who heard there were cannons once.
Wagner fans. Yes, there are the cringey neo-Nazi Wagnerians, but anti-Nazi Wagnerians are a whole new level of chaotic good. They spend their time dreaming up the most disastrous, chaotic Ring productions possible, with the sole purpose of making Richard Wagner's entire family simultaneously spin in their graves. They take "death of the author" to a whole new level and constantly run on nothing but 100% pure spite. You want a Wagnerian who would beat up Wagner in a Denny's parking lot on your side.
Prokofiev fans will unironically say "ackshually...". That's it.
Dvorak fans are homeschool kids. They're either soul-crushingly innocent or devastatingly horny.
Sousa fans are just high school band directors who try to convince themselves they like Sousa to get through the semester.
Joplin fans constantly argue over whether Joplin's music should be played twice as quickly or twice as slowly than it's actually written. Also sick of hearing about Janis.
Chopin fans are exactly like Liszt fans, except there are 20% more "uwu softboi flowercrown" edits of Chopin than Liszt floating around on Instagram and Tumblr.
Holst fans will drag you into an alleyway and beat you up with their bare hands if you so much as mention The Planets.
Bernstein fans are either horny theatre kids or communists, but it's more likely they're both at once. They are very opinionated about recordings, and express their approval of the ones they like by gyrating excessively to them. If you put a Bernstein fan, a Mahler fan, and a Shostakovich fan in one room, they will either topple a national government or have a threesome.
Ravel fans are inherently Wes Anderson fans. You can be friends with one for years without knowing a single thing about their personality.
Schoenberg fans are like Mahlerians but with worse memes.
Brahms fans are... I have never met a Brahms fan. I'm sure they exist, but I'm pretty sure my own taste in music scares them off.
Paganini fans are almost always TwoSet kids, particularly the ones who try to convince people that "classical music isn't boring because it's basically metal." If you tell them Paganini played viola, they will spontaneously combust.
Rachmaninov fans are ultimately really chill, but are often socially awkward. If you ask a Rachmaninov fan "how are you?", they will most likely respond with "you too."
Schumann fans are Mahlerians on medication.
Stravinsky fans think they're chaotic and unhinged and listen to the most obscure underground shit, but in all actuality they just decided to enter their edgy phase after a lifetime of being sheltered and forced to listen to nothing but Handel by their parents. Possibly homeschooled.
Ysaye fans are like Paganini fans, except they're depressed graduate music students with permanent calluses on their fingers.
Debussy fans go to art school, decide they don't like art school, but have been doing art school too long to turn back, so they can't get out of art school. They may be high on weed at any given moment.
Satie fans are just possessed vessels of Erik Satie. Death cannot hinder Erik Satie. Erik Satie will return to this mortal plane. Search your feelings. You are already Erik Satie.
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symphonybracket · 9 months
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The symphony bracket is here!
This is how voting will proceed:
Beginning on September 1, one poll (2 symphonies) will be posted per day. The poll duration will be 7 days.
The reason for the slow posting will be to give voters time to listen, in case one or both symphonies is new to them!
There are 64 symphonies in the bracket, meaning 32 polls.
Happy voting!
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Left Side:
Mahler 2 vs Prokofiev 5
Bruckner 8 vs Mozart 10
Mahler 10 vs Schubert 8
Pejačević 1 vs Beethoven 9
Shostakovich 7 vs Glière 3
Beethoven 5 vs Tchaikovsky 6
Mahler 1 vs Sibelius 2
Beethoven 8 vs Vaughan Williams 2
Copland 3 vs Beach Gaelic
Beethoven 6 vs Dvořák 7
Borodin 2 vs Saint-Saëns 3
Mendelssohn 4 vs Beethoven 3
Rachmaninoff 2 vs Kalinnikov 2
Prokofiev 1 vs Rachmaninoff 1
Emilie Mayer 2 vs Vaughan Williams 7
Haydn 75 vs Dvořák 8
Right Side:
Mahler 5 vs Polymath 1
Corigliano 1 vs Ives Universe
Price 1 vs Shostakovich 5
Mahler 6 vs Sibelius 5
Prokofiev 7 vs Mendelssohn 5
Shostakovich 11 vs Mahler 3
Shostakovich 9 vs Ives 4
Berlioz Symphony Fantastique vs Britten Simple Symphony
Vaughan Williams 1 vs Tchaikovsky 4
Shostakovich 10 vs Hovhaness 4
Beethoven 7 vs Grant Still 2
Dvořák 9 vs Brahms 1
Brahms 2 vs Maslanka 4
Brahms 3 vs Tchaikovsky 1
Tchaikovsky 5 vs Mozart 40
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davidhudson · 6 months
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Aaron Copland, November 14, 1900 – December 2, 1990.
1955 photo by Gordon Parks.
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pileofglass · 1 year
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lascitasdelashoras · 1 year
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Aaron Copland por Gordon Parks
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marxonculture · 9 months
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A Quick Note on 'Jewface', Maestro and Oppenheimer
Given that my presence on this platform is filtered specifically through the lens of Jewishness in film, and that I wrote my undergraduate dissertation on the Jewish identity of Leonard Bernstein – the subject of Bradley Cooper’s controversial upcoming film, Maestro – I thought I’d weigh in on the current discourse.
For those who are unaware, one of the biggest films due to premier as part of this year’s autumn film festival season is Bradley Cooper’s Maestro. The film is said to be a non-traditional biopic of 20th century American composer Leonard Bernstein, focusing largely on his complex relationship with his wife, Felicia Montealegre. Controversy has arisen around the Netflix production due to images from the trailer featuring Bradley Cooper as Bernstein wearing an enlarged prosthetic nose. Voices within and outside Jewish communities have loudly criticised Cooper for caricaturing Jewishness, using the term ‘Jewface’ which describes the act of a goyische (non-Jewish) actor using prosthetics to make themselves look more like a cartoonish, imagined Jew.
While it is true that Bernstein did own a decent sized schnoz, the prosthetic utilised by Cooper is significantly bigger, and more defined than the nose was in reality. From a personal standpoint, I do find the use of this prosthetic to be pretty discomforting, but I think it speaks more to Cooper’s insecurity about the size of his own nose, which is a lot bigger than perhaps he would like to admit (and not too dissimilar to Bernstein’s actual nose!), than it does about his perception of Jews. That being said whether it was his intention to cartoonify Jewishness or not, Cooper has ruffled feathers in a way that is crass rather than substantive. Bernstein’s living relatives have come out in support of Cooper and his decision to use the prosthetic, saying that Bernstein would not have minded, but I think their statement rather misses the point. The nose is not about Bernstein himself, but about highly visible representations of a tiny minority that are stereotypical and incredibly reductive.
Funnily enough, however, Cooper’s use of ‘Jewface’ is the element of Maestro that bothers me the least. I have been fairly vocal since the film’s announcement about how I believe the production as a whole to be a pretty catastrophically bad idea. Leonard Bernstein is my number one creative hero – as a composer, public intellectual and educator, I don’t think there has been a single Jewish figure in American history who has had more of a positive impact on culture.
As I mentioned, I have written extensively about Bernstein in an academic context, and in researching him, it became clear to me just how vitally important his Jewish identity was to him throughout his life. It informed his music (even West Side Story, which was initially conceived as a story about Jews and Catholics on the Lower East Side of Manhattan), and his role as an educator (he often described his pedagogy as rabbinic in nature), and he was deeply, foundationally affected upon learning about the realities of the Holocaust which caused what he described as ‘aporia’, a state of being where he was too overwhelmed to write a single word for years. Bernstein’s complicated relationship to sexuality was also hugely significant in his life. There is still debate to this day about whether, given an open, accepting environment, he would have identified as a gay man or as bisexual. He had significant, passionate relationships with both men and women, and was an early major advocate for HIV/AIDS research.
My problem with Maestro is that I don’t have faith in Bradley Cooper as a writer/director, to sensitively depict these two massive aspects of Bernstein’s identity. Focusing on his most significant straight-passing relationship as the centre of a film called Maestro does not inspire confidence that the film won’t totally whitewash Bernstein’s Jewishness, or reduce his sexuality to the pain it caused his wife (in a similar way to other reductive music biopics like Bohemian Rhapsody or Rocketman). Cooper’s own identity is significant in that he is starting from a place of remove from the identity of his subject, which isn’t necessarily a dealbreaker, but when there are other filmmakers out there who are far better suited to a project like this, both from an identity perspective and a thematic one, it’s hard to justify why this project exists at all in its current form.
Some have pointed to the involvement of Steven Spielberg as a producer on the project as hope for better representation, but given that Cooper and Martin Scorsese – a filmmaker who I have criticised in the past for the didactic, Christian morality of his movies – are also credited producers, I don’t think it’ll make much difference. I’m more comforted by the involvement of Josh Singer (Spotlight, The Post) and his contribution to the screenplay, given his Jewishness and his work on thematically sensitive historical films.
I’m not writing off the film entirely just yet. I had similar worries about Oppenheimer, given the significance of the scientist’s Jewishness in his decision to start work on the bomb in the first place. Nolan and Cillian Murphy, thankfully, proved me wrong in the director’s decision to focus on the differing Jewish identities of Oppenheimer, Lewis Strauss, and I.I. Rabi, and the nuanced ways in which their characters were informed by Jewishness, as well as Murphy’s attention to detail in his performance. It’s certainly possible for non-Jewish filmmakers to consider Jewishness in a valuable way (see Todd Field’s Tar or Paul Thomas Anderson’s Licorice Pizza for a couple of recent examples), but the set-up of this project makes it hard for me to believe that Cooper is one such filmmaker.
To end with a little self-gratifying what-if, I thought I’d lay out what would be my ideal Bernstein biopic: a film centred around the relationship between Bernstein and his fellow queer, Jewish composer and mentor, Aaron Copland, the letters they wrote to one another, and the fallout of their brushes with McCarthyism which had vastly different outcomes. I would keep Cooper as Bernstein (without the prosthetics!) because he can convincingly play the man’s charm, I’d cast Michael Stuhlbarg as Copland, and get Todd Haynes to write and direct. Haynes is Jewish, gay, and has a great deal of experience directing sweeping, romantic, dark, and political films. He knows how to portray music on screen and has several masterful period-pieces under his belt, with Carol in particular as a shining example of complex, historical queer romance in America. Honestly, this would be my dream film project.
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Appalachian Spring (Aaron Copland):
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Last win - Keyboard Partita no. 2 (JS Bach)
GO APPALACHIAN SPRING GO. how does it have no propaganda. i will not do this any sort of justice. have you ever experienced spring? how rain falls for the first time? how ice melts back into the river and flows into the town and washes away the cold depths of winter? have you ever heard a symphony so grand. so celebratory of this one all encompassing instance in nature? yes it is a river. yes it is the town. it is you. it is aaron himself. it is leonard bernstein the director.it is the folk songs that get passed down and sung bc the winter is over at last - and when we find ourselves in the place just right we'll be in the valley of love & delight. ily Appalachian Spring doppio movinento was 12th on my wrapped this year :)
The Planets Suite (Gustav Holst):
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Last win – Bye
The Bakshi Lord of the Rings set "Mithrandir" to the theme from Jupiter! It's very touching :)
honestly magical. dramatic start, Jupiter both breaks my heart and makes me feel alive, the fading chorus at the end is like floating away into space. I don’t have a favourite recording. However I should mention that Melodica Men did a wonderful rendition of Jupiter that I’d like to share (they did Mars too but I like this more):
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tobiasforms · 9 months
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Sometimes I think I’m imagining my religious trauma but then I remember I got yelled at for writing “Xmas” instead of “Christmas” because it was crossing out Christ and that’s exactly what Satan wants, subsequently making the holiday about Satan
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skinks · 1 year
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The extended version of The English’s soundtrack was released today with over 30 minutes of extra music btw. If you even care
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lisamarie-vee · 6 months
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citizenscreen · 5 months
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Composer Aaron Copland (November 14, 1900 – December 2, 1990)
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symphonybracket · 8 months
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YouTube Links: Copland 3, Beach Gaelic
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Copland 3 (1 submittal)
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Beach Gaelic (1 submittal)
Gotta get some women composers in here! Lots of Dvořak influence too.
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oldshowbiz · 8 months
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The American Legion versus college professors, Charlie Chaplin, and composter Aaron Copland.
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pileofglass · 1 year
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"Copland OS Enterprise / Tachibana Labs" 4K Recreation of Lain Iwakura's NAVI background. - KANPEKI (2023)
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