Ty for answering my q! (Am the guy who asked about lgbt being common in ancient china etc) since lgbt is more of a western concept what would be a chinese equivalent for it? Like how is the chinese homosexuality different from the west? (Sorry if my wording is off im not exactly sure how else to phrase it 😭😭)
I'm just talking about the cultural differences that shape what it means to be queer across the globe. Modern LGBT+ discourse was led and shaped by western academics so theories of gender and sexuality are based largely on the that of white thinkers. Although it's true that English LGBT terminology and the relevant standardised definitions have spread and been translated globally, and that Western ideals of masculinity and femininity remain dominant overall, similar concepts can't be understood 1:1 across all cultures. And there certainly existed something else before Western influence.
Also, picture this: you are watching a TV show from the Song Dynasty. You notice some of the male characters are always wearing flowers on their head/in their headwear 👀. You, proficient in imagery and symbolism, think to yourself, "💅🏼?"
But little did you know that this was a men's fashion trend at the time, practiced by young and old, rich and poor, hardly the indicator of queerness!
What I mean is, when it comes to looking at history, especially history of different cultures, basically you have to remember that there is a different context/historical framework to what is queer, what is gendered masculine and feminine, what is homoerotic/sapphic (and "queerplatonic" as we'd understand some of these instances and relationships), what is sexual, etc. So going back to my comment in the previous ask, based on all this, I personally feel that bringing terms like LGBT to such conversations is not appropriate because it also brings with it a modern framework which is not productive to understanding history as having its own frame of references.
If that makes any goddamn sense lmao.
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Hello friend :)
I’d like to hear your and other women’s thoughts/experiences/advice about following problem, if that’s okay:
I’m currently 19, turning 20 soon, and I’m not only as conditioned to obsess over female youth and male validation as much as to be scared of “getting old” in general (as in turning like 40+, which objectively isn’t “old”), but I’m also dreading turning 20 and not being in my teens anymore.
I’ll be honest, those teen years were shit, I didn’t enjoy them, and what lies ahead of me is most likely better than that, but I’m scared of not being a young girl anymore. I obsess over being “youthful and pure” so much, that I feel like I’m decreasing in worth with every year, and that I’ll be like five times less desirable once I’m not a “teen” anymore. Which is sick, I know, but I still feel like the only thing that I have, that I can be proud of, that gives me worth, is the fact that I’m still young, look good and fit into the “male fantasy” of the dainty, innocent young woman blah blah blah. Not an image that I look at and think, “wow, cool, exactly what I want to be”, and I actually really admire women who are headstrong, independent, do what makes them feel good and not what men would like.
But I can’t help but have my thoughts revolve around “does that make me desirable/feminine/hot/likable through the male gaze?” with whatever I do, wear, say, how I move, talk, etc.
I feel so terrible for being and thinking like that, I think it’s pathetic, but I just feel like my entire worth depends on how men perceive me, because I feel like I have nothing else to be proud of, nothing else that makes me me, you know?
🍒anon
If I can be very honest, I am not the best person to talk about this with because frankly - I couldn't care less about what men think or what they find desirable, lol. This will be a messy post since there is a lot to cover, but I will try to make it brief
It makes me appalled most of the time when I listen to them even speak what they want, I am unable to sympathize with them as someone who is also attracted to women or find myself insecure under their ridicilous and unachievable standards. Not to mention changing myself for it
I say I don't care about what most (especially toxic) men think and I truly do mean it, I genuinely don't hold their opinion close to heart or in high regards. To me, it's like a broken radio playing in the background
Everyone are allowed to have a type, of course, however I am guessing you are going specifically for basic standard - perfect girl, perfect body, no marks of living or even smiling, smooth as a liquid (hey mitski), literally a doll with sewed mouth lol
Well, about those I don't care. I don't care about beauty standards in general. I criticize them, of course, due to how racist, pedophilic and how harming they are - which is also why I don't care to achieve them. I am a white woman, so yes, I do hold a certain privilege when it comes to it, however I am far away from what society or men find desirable, I think
However, I cared only when I was much younger and thought relationships and somebody being romantically invested in you meant you are worthy and lovable, but as I grew up and as I went through fairly long relationship that ruined my self image and self love (or what was left of it), I had to learn something which is how to not care and let myself be. Now, I am excited about myself as I am and I like myself as I am, even though I am far away from perfect. I have stretch marks here and there, I have tummy, I have pimples sometimes, I have marks of being a human, I can be very hairy, etc etc, but there is so much more to me and I am okay with saying that.
I don't shame away from being human anymore just because somebody may find it not dolly enough. I am who I am and I love being so many things that I am which have nothing to do with the way I look like
But I like it all as it is, truthfully. I don't care about looking young because who really cares? Men with pedophilic standards - sure, but why would I or you or anyone else even think they should feed into that?
You are a young woman, far away from old or dirty. Yes, you will be less desirable in your 20's..why? Because a lot of men like children. That's the harsh truth of it. I was catcalled much more as a 15 year old kid and I literally looked like a kid than at my current age of 21
A lot of men like everything that is easily manipulated, ruined, bruised, tainted, only for their use because a lot of them are sick in the head. So, you should never bow your head down to such standards because why would you? Get excited about meeting yourself, let yourself be a woman you are. A smart, strong headed, independent, interesting, poetic, enthusiastic woman! And you can do all that while also taking care of your looks - but for yourself and for your own satisfaction :)
Because those men whose approval you seek will never find you beautiful. Not in a way you may want or in a way you deserve. You deserve somebody who will find you beautiful due to the essence of your being, due to all that makes you human even if it leaves marks on your skin. Those men, on the other hand, will only find you..taintable. A little project of senseless purity that they get to ruin. An object that they get to break. Once that happens and your so-called innocence is gone, so is your beauty in their eyes. You hold no beauty, only potential future ruins and that's about it. So they can take you apart and readjust you until you don't recognize anything about yourself.
So, instead of putting your head down directly on a gillotine of awful men's perception and desires, perhaps put your mirror down first, get off of socials that encourage this idea and meet yourself. Let yourself become whoever you want to be because you can be so many things. I know it feels discouraging and it's scary to feel or be seen as "old" or "used", but frankly, anyone who ranks people by such standard isn't really the most reliable source now, is it?
Sorry if this was too "poetic" or all over the place, but I really wish you could understand that there is so much more to you and "purity", "innocence", "youthfulness" are all things made up to shame women for existing, lol. (regardless of whether you are sexually active or not since those are usually representing that, but I know what you mean when you say it)
So, please, just try looking into your essence with your own two eyes and your own heart and finding yourself exciting and interesting as you are, instead of losing your life away looking at yourseld through shallow eyes of weird men who don't see further than what might be under your clothes. You are much, much more than that :) <3
and, word "old" isn't a bad word, so don't treat it as such, no need to at all :)
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