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#like ''they're VERY obvious traps actually. How did you fall for it. Are you a Squirrel''
bonefall · 3 months
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You could play with the dirty part of the canon description by having Slash and his people roll in mud to hide their scent.
Parts of the Code labelling using weapons/traps as dishonorable could have started as agreements made that Slash's people wouldn't keep using their old tactics, maybe forced on Thunder's Clan to keep them from becoming too powerful, if they DID fuse.
I'm more liable to just remove the "dirty" thing entirely honestly; I just think it's so shitty I'd like to nuke it from orbit, you get me? Every single time they want you to hate someone, they make them fat and/or stinky. I'd rather just put that kind of rhetoric in the mouths of cats like Clear Sky and The Wind Runner, a lie to demonize their enemies, not really based on truth.
I think I might take the trap stuff though; that actually fits in nicely with how ThunderClan's the only one that uses spears. I won't have it be code yet, though, that's going to come a lot later. First two commandments of the code are Borders + Mercy, followed by Law 3 when Riverstar dies in some decades.
Also gonna need a name for Slash's new group. Hey, maybe THESE guys can be called Warriors, actually. Warriors of the Forest, like what the first arc used to be called before it was renamed TPB.
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webslingingslasher · 1 month
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ok but he’s so lame bc why NOT just the tip
her gorilla grip coochie isn’t gonna vacuum suck his dick all the way in 😭😭😭😭😭
(it might)
but like.... if he did one night? i mean, after you've done everything but that and you're a little extra pleading and... *nsfw content!*
'just the tip.'
'no.'
'c'mon, peter. sex is next so think of this as a... i don't know, a baby step! yeah, this is educational if you think about it, just another way of preparing me for the next thing!'
peter's looking over your face, he always thought it was a joke but you've thought it out. peter sees a lightbulb appear over your head.
'plus i'm all primed, if you know what i mean... i mean how you just ate me out, so i'm all wet and there's less risk of it h-'
'i know what you mean.' you grin, it was peter's turn next anyways, why not throw this into the mix first? 'cool. it's just the tip, it probably won't feel like anything, anyways.'
'thanks, cherry. that's very kind of you.' you wince, 'sorry. obviously i'm gonna feel something but it won't be like i'm being split in half. unless-'
'you're serious.' you actually want him to do it. you furrow your eyebrows, isn't it obvious? 'well, yeah.'
'i always thought you were joking, but no, you're serious.'
you shift around and tug peter's blanket down, you spread wide for him. 'so serious.' he's hesitant, you lightly kick him and lower your voice.
'don't you wanna be in me?' peter's throbbing, he's just a man at heart, he can only be so good and he's been very good up until now, he's allowed this.
'so bad.' you have no idea how long he's been waiting for this. no idea. 'then come here and give me the tip.' you make grabby hands, your heart's drumming hard, you're about to get what you want.
you almost scream out in excitement when he settles between your legs, lifting your hips to have your thighs rest on his. shifting, he's almost where you want him, you're held down with his hand on your tummy, you're gripping around nothing.
'i need a condom.' peter leans over you, you pull his arm down. 'no you don't, it's just the tip.'
'that's not how it works.'
you shake your head, 'i'm on birth control. i have been for years, it helps with my period.' peter's never done anything without a barrier, he's unsure but you know how to talk him into it.
'i just wanna feel you, don't i deserve the real thing?' if it was anyone else peter would be backing out calling for a baby trap, but with you he just falls in and can't think straight.
'you can have anything you want.' you can, peter wants to do nothing but make you happy. he loves when you're happy because you got your way.
'yeah?' your pupils are blown wide, you reach for him, begging for him to come just a little closer. 'wanna give me what i want?' peter's hot, he's about to start sweating and he hasn't done anything but rest your thighs on his and contain himself.
you hold your breath in anticipation. peter grips the headboard with his left hand as support, his right hand goes down, you startle when you feel... something collecting your slick.
his tip brushes over your clit, you bite down on your bottom lip. you can't stop from squeaking when a string of spit falls from peter's mouth, watching him softly jerk himself for a moment before lining up. it's filthy. you want all of him.
'we're not having sex.' you're not sure if peter was setting the rule for you or him, it doesn't matter, you agree with him. 'it's just the tip. that's it.'
peter nods once, 'just the tip.' his hips move, your hand slams down, you're searching for his. 'hold my hand, hold my hand, hold my-' peter has to switch, his left has control and his right has yours.
they're intertwined, it's less scary now. 'okay, i'm ready.' your lower stomach tightens and relaxes, your hips move with his, you feel him press in closer and closer and closer- your hand squeezes his- peter's back to holding the headboard.
you gasp loudly at the pressure, you melt into his sheets and throw your head back. unexpected reaction, you laugh lightly, not because it's funny, because 'it feels so fucking good.'
peter's fingers go white around the wood, he's using every single atom in his body to show restraint. the hand you're not holding his with, pulls at his waist.
'give me more.' peter feels the board bending under his grip, he's better than his, this wasn't how it was supposed to go, this wasn't how you were supposed to lose your virginity.
'it's like you're teasing me.' peter speaks through gritted teeth, all his focus was on not doing what you were asking. 'yeah, honey, that's the problem with just the tip, it's never just the tip.'
'mhm. i feel so full, oh my god.'
peter breaks his headboard.
half is ripped from the other, you go from pleasure to shock, you push at his chest while trying to sit up, pulling away from him entirely. 'oh my god! oh my god, what the fuck!'
dust floats over you, you cover your head, you're trying to figure out what happened. was it a bomb? and earthquake? an exploding manhole?
'peter, what the fuck was that? what happened?'
you. you happened. with the words and the noises and the begging and he couldn't fucking hold back anymore. his headboard paid the price, he can't believe what he just did.
'i don't... i don't know. i was just holding on and...' how is he supposed to explain this one? 'well, obviously it was a defective one! oh my god, are you okay?' you rip your arms away from your head, you sit up and stare at him.
'am i okay?' peter nods fast, his thumbs brush under your eyes, 'you're okay. i'm okay. we're okay.' you rest your hands over his, you stare at the half crumpled wood on the floor. you've held onto it many times, it was sturdy. you're questioning your theory.
'how the hell did that happen? it looks like you fucking ripped it apart!'
he did.
'i have no idea.' you stand up to grab your underwear and a shirt, you make some very clear points. 'okay, you need a new headboard and absolutely no more 'just the tip,' until you get one of quality. imagine if that came down on my head, i would be dead with just the tip in me!'
'i wouldn't let that happen, i'd give you the whole thing so you wouldn't die a virgin.' you pout softly, 'aw. you love me.' peter smiles, his fingers pinch together. 'a little bit.'
you stare at the mess on the floor, little pieces of wood splintered away on the fall down. 'hey- so do you think we're being punished for-'
'no.' 
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cboffshore · 6 months
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Situation: it is fall, which means it is almost December, which means it is time to begin my annual installment of my Nya Being A Gotdamb Menace To Nadakhan During Skybound series. (not the actual name, but that's the gist of it.) I am currently in the outline/sandbox writing phase.
Problem: based on the timeline I'm working with and some of the themes I want to mess with, 95% of this installment has to occur in that bridal suite Nya's stuck in during episode 63. based on key points in my outline, this means I need to nail down a solid floor plan, because unfortunately I write fic the same way I used to stage manage, so I must have tabs on all my actors or I literally cannot work.
Solution: rewatch episode 63, which has prolonged shots of the suite.
New problem: upon examining a bunch of screenshots, it appears that this suite is some kind of TARDIS or perhaps an Escher painting, because I can't wrap my head around the layout.
New solution: show you all example screenshots and notes to either get someone to help or just make sure all of us are mad together.
(I would tuck this under a cut to make this more convenient, but I had to try and parse this, and as my followers I insist you all join me, because maybe someone will help me get an answer.Apologies for the potato quality, by the way - I had to Discord myself my notated shots from my phone.)
The first thing hindering me is that Dogshank's big fuckin helmet blocks most of what would otherwise be decent shots of the room. This also includes all shots of the biggest mystery to me: whatever the fuck is happening with the pillars and canopy in the middle. I think there's a better shot of it in 64 that still doesn't clear up what this thing is, besides the fact that it's not a bed or anything actually useful.
Also, somehow, we never get a clear shot of the walls. Like, ever. But in the corners that aren't full of the 'shank, we do get some info about windows!
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net info gained: we have two walls of windows and some kind of pointless canopy taking up fifty percent of the floor. also, lots of hexagons.
At the very least, I need info on the windows for Plot Reasons, and boy howdy do I get it! Except it sucks! Pay attention to the notes about the temple shape/weird duplication happening if you want to, but here's my biggest gripe (and I know this is probably because of them reusing the temple assets without thinking too hard about how they designed the interior, but if it's present I feel like I have to work around it): THOSE BARS DO NOT MATCH. That is a DIFFERENT window entirely.
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Oh, and speaking of the bars: the only thing consistent between the two shots is perhaps the DUMBEST thing wrong with these windows. Can't see it? That's because it's not even there. Look:
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You know that Bionicle movie where the one guy goes "haha makes glass?" That was NOT a sentiment the builders here took to heart. (One plus of this situation: I can make this a plot point. I think. I mean, clearly the Hagemans did it just fine. Tune in in December to find out!)
net info gained: it's probably freezing up there.
Anyway, onto the next issue: unless this conversation takes place at a third wall of windows that I somehow missed (not likely as they're VERY TALL AND OBVIOUS), then this door is either decorative, or it moved, and either way it should open onto dead air. I mean, it doesn't given that Nadakhan waltzes in and leaves with Nya with no incident, but based on the long-distance shot of the mismatched windows... I'm reading too much into this, huh?
Anyway, corporate needs you to find the difference between these two pictures:
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net info gained: this is one of the following: some kind of suicide door that keeps moving around to keep Nya trapped inside, me being an idiot, or just really bad foresight on the animator's part.
Also, this isn't part of the suite, but I wanted to include it anyway because... well, why not?
net info gained: Nadakhan's got something against functional windows, I guess. Either this was boarded up to accommodate the giant ceremony space on the ground floor or he's got, like, a darkroom in there where he's got a bunch of cronies trying to replicate that antique photo of Delara, because once again: haha no glass!
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JUST WALL.
Anyway: rant over. Send help. I'm giving up and DIYing a floor plan that has somewhere between 1 and 4 walls of windows and furniture that's not just potted plants and weird little side tables.
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dearweirdme · 3 months
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https://www.tumblr.com/dearweirdme/740407316667662336/hi-rain-i-saw-you-say-something-about-jkkrs?source=share
you obvious haven't been in the taekook community for a long time or you haven't branched out outside of tumblr much because if you had you'd know that taekookers are (much like jkkrs) more tae biased than they are jk biased. like the whole story tkkrs built is about tae being the only victim in the whole vminkook shipping situation, jungkook the unfaithful man, and jimin being the "other woman" who seduces him and jungkook sometimes falling into his traps or sometimes he's forced by the company to play along. it depends on the situation and how it affected taekook/tkkrs.
and this isn't saying that jkkrs are better, i'm not defending either sides because i belong to neither as im not a shipper to begin with, i have just been in this fandom long enough to see how this whole shippers situation has started and played out to this day. and the one major thing i've noticed that both sides of shippers have in common is that they both care about the non-jungkook half of their ship more, and jungkook is mostly treated like a prop from both sides. for jkkrs, he's the "supportive boyfriend" who's only worth mentioning when they want to hype up jimin and make him look superior, and for tkkrs he's your typical 19-20th century husband who has a "job wife (jimin)" who's a potential homewrecker if she succeeds in seducing the husband, and whom the "real wife (tae)" gets jealous of and the couple are her victims.
so yeah, both sides don't really gaf about jungkook much outside of using him to either prop up their fave or victimize him. jungkook stans mostly aren't shippers and they're either ot7 armys who see both hyungs as jk's closest friends, or they're solos who have no tolerance for either one of the two and drag both the entire time. which is why vmk solos are always fighting with each other and why jjks in particular are always caught in the middle of ship wars, because they're the only ones who actually defend jungkook from the crossfire.
Alright anon, get of your condescending high horse, I'm sure it was possible to send me an ask that was more conversational. I could very well be wrong, and I believe I did state that I was talking from my point of view, most of my followers are perfectly able to understand that for what it is.
What are we taking as as a measuring point for fandom behavior then if you're so against my Tumblr point of view? Twitter? TO me that's like basing your opionon on food by going to MacDonalds. Sure you'll get some nice stuff there, it's fast, it's simple, it has something for everyone... but does it give you the whole food experience? Probably not. You'll not likely be able to remember much about the food you tasted there except for that it was good (or bad). (Not wanting to trash Twitter completely, I know there's good stuff on there and I'm definitely exagerating to make a point 😁). Twitter is designed to be fast and short and by that design it makes it more difficult do go into deep discussions. Twitter is great for pushing content and activating fandom, not so great for estimating how fandom shenanigans work, because your view of it will be heavily biased by the loudest voices.. not the most sane ones.
Tiktok's algorithm wil make sure you get no-where. Instagram does not give you a sense of volume and is more about images than about discussion.
Tumblr is ofcourse small in comparison, so we don't get a sense of volume. But it does allow room for discussion. It's also real easy to go back to former posts because it works as an archive a bit. So please don't treat Tumblr as though it doesn't count in forming an opinion.
So sure I might be off, but you might be as well.
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ant1quarian · 2 months
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Hey, so I was think how would your Avian Boys react to Fem Redaer playing a prank on them? (she knows them, they know her and they're cool like that leaning towards them wanting to be mates and her thinking it's cute when they gift her because she's that dense) anyways, this is the 'It's that time of month where I had to shed my skin' basically she's going to put a face mask that sticks to her face and she peels it off saying it's her old skin coming off she her face could be smooth and soft (bonus I'd she had chubby face cheeks)
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Oh boy... thanks for the ask!
Classic is so fucking confused, and kind of very muchly concerned. He wants to know how that works so much and will probably grab you and sorta gently scrabble at your face with his talons to see if there's anything in excess. He usually has a natural intrigue with your face- especially your cheeks- so just seeing you "pull of your skin" like that perplexes him. But then again, he wants to know more.
Once he finds out it's a prank, he'll probably squeeze your cheeks gently and snort- all with a conspiring grin that tells you he's definitely going to do something to get you back.
Red is. He's so confused. You get the whole head-tilt, wing drop, brow furrow that you'd probably find kind of cute as he stares at you for a long while before slowly, very intelligently, you hear him (probably for the first time) speak and all you hear is: "th' fuck?" He'll probably scoop you up and prod at your cheeks before you finally explain it was a prank- which immediately earns you a glare, a huff, a nuzzle, and the promise of him getting you back somehow.
Axe would be super intrigued! Not exactly confused, just big "WOAH". He'll get real close to you with his head tilted and eyelight enlarged before he asks whether that's an actual thing or not- likely narrowing his sockets at you when you tell him it's a prank. He'll then proceed to bap you over the head- albeit gently- with one of his wings before beginning to plan his own shenanigans.
(He hopes you're not afraid of heights.)
Dust immediately saw right through your lies. As one of the most powerful raptors out there, the difference in consistency between skin and the facemask is obvious to him- but it's very likely he still goes along with it. Even going so far as to peel some of it off himself with partially-faux intrigued body language. If this is something you find fun and silly then he's going to follow along to make you smile- it's worth more than all of the prey and shinies in the world to him. Hell, maybe he'll even do a few pranks himself.
Error is questioning everything. You've probably made him crash because people- specifically human-watching, is one of his hobbies. He's equally as interested and disgusted by humanity, so he does a lot of observing. He's probably equally as confused as he is concerned- did it hurt? Are you okay? Do you need help? I mean, he wouldn't touch you (haphephobia) but he's there to help if you need. Eventually once you tell him it was a prank he's going to playfully sulk, then probably make a (harmless) trap for you to fall into in order to get back.
Milord was likely suspicious, but also interested. He raises a brow and asks whether that's an actual thing, all the while studying the sides of your face- perhaps looking for clues that you were japing him, or perhaps if there was any more for him to help peel off? He's curious. Once he tells you it's a prank he squeezes your cheek with one of his hands with a vaguely amused expression. He now holds you in higher respect, being able to sneak around someone as intelligent as him.
Killer fucking flips. His hands go to the sides of his skull and his sockets widen comically before he proceeds to completely trap you in his embrace and check out your face. He probably notices a few pieces that aren't peeled off and don't seem the same consistency- or smell the same- as you skin- and then proceeds to place it on his skull for goofs. Your price for pranking him (even after you've told him) is him carrying you around, occasionally nuzzling your cheek.
Blue already knows what's up. He knows you're goofing but he's more than happy to play along- maybe he'll even tell you about some weird Avian things (and believe me, there are a lot of Weird Avian Things) that are actually true! He admires your willingness to be silly and not worry for your life (considering he knows his species' reputation), and fully expects you to prank him again! (He does ask whether the mask hurt, and what the mask was made out of)
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voidthewanderer · 22 days
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I was gonna do this under a read more, but fuck it. You get to deal with me now.
Nothing is truly original and people need to get over this fact.
Yes, you can make original work, but someone, somewhere is going to find a correlation to an existing thing. It doesn't matter if the original work's artist has never seen what they're referencing, it came from somewhere.
The last truly original thing I have ever seen be created was the Cannonball Loop in Action Park, NJ. And you wanna know something about this monstrosity?
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This thing never opened to the public because it was too dangerous even for the testers. Gene Mulvihill was apparently trying to pay people to try this death trap. His own son was even hesitant to try it. The last truly originally creative thing I've ever seen was a death trap waiting to happen.
Human creativity builds off of what it sees; changing it into something for an individual's own palette. A good portion of the time, it's a subconscious thing, you don't even realize that you create something that's similar to something else. It could be something even as simple as "I saw this thing a while back" and just forgot until you see it again.
I linked this before, and I'll link it again. TomSka's video on plagiarism in the arts. He talks specifically about his own experiences with plagiarism (both actual and not actual plagiarism). In all honesty, I do urge every creative to watch.
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I shared this a while back specifically for his "Somerton Scale". Here it is typed out.
No Correlation -> Parallel Thinking -> Subconscious Appropriation -> Inspiration -> Influence -> Reference -> Allusion -> Derivative -> Imitative -> Cloning
So, obvious, the first point (no correlation) and final point (cloning) are straightforward. No plagiarism and blatant plagiarism. It's those in between points that I see far too many people get their fucking panties in a bunch. Most specifically, the two points I want to talk about; parallel thinking and subconscious appropriation.
The first two points kind of go hand in hand. Parallel thinking is the process of two unrelated people having the same idea. Now, why do I personally say that this goes hand in hand with subconscious appropriation? Well, there's a reason why certain riffs in music are called earworms or why an idea might sometimes be called a brainworm. You get an idea from somewhere that you love and you make it your own.
Let's take, for example, I dunno... Counting freckles on your partner. I can't begin to tell you how many times I have read this, quite frankly trope in free harlequin ebooks on Amazon. I used to have time to read a lot when I was younger and I didn't care what it was, as long as it was reading material. Did they all steal that idea from one another? No, they didn't. It's honestly a very human thing that actual real humans do. A person doing something to create a mental image of their partner; wanting to engrave every little detail into their minds. That is an adorable thought and a lot of people do it. I know I would.
It's these two points that I always see people throw the biggest, most absolute infantile tantrums. And, almost 98% of the time, it's always the only correlation between two pieces is the same idea. Yeah, you know my "Elect Death for President" art I recently did? I highly doubt I'm the first person to make art of such a dark concept. Especially since I even got the idea from the Wednesday 13 song of the same name. I'm also writing a fic based off the Creature Feature song A Gorey Demise, which was based off of The Gashlycrumb Tinies. Just because I'm using the lyrics of the song for the chapter titles, it doesn't mean it's plagiarism. Now, if I used the lyrics for the chapter titles, didn't tell anybody that it was based off of a song, and possibly changed the name of the story? Yeah, that might be a different story. But even then, that would more fall into the category of allusion (thinly).
As I previously mentioned, we see and hear things we like, it doesn't matter what the media is. Music, stories, movies, tv shows, even just the world around us, and locks it away into a place that we call our own. We make up our own little ideas based off of these things our minds take in; it gets twisted into our own personal tastes. Sometimes people just don't remember where they might get an idea from. Or, they do know, but it's just a small thing, it's not worth mentioning. That doesn't make an idea plagiarism.
Now, I wanna swing the topic slightly for a moment. Character creation and theft. I'm gonna be blunt with you guys, some of my characters are stolen... to a degree. What do I mean by this?
Savino and his brothers; they were all my and an ex-friend's rendition of The Midnight Crew from an old roleplay we'd had going on for like two years. Yes, Homestuck Midnight Crew. By the time I actually took control of the lot of them, they were shadows of their former selves; the only thing distinguishing them from what they were originally being that I hadn't actually made them human at that point or changed their names. If I'd never said anything, there's literally only like two people who would've known that they were originally a roleplay version of the homestuck characters.
The same thing with Jason. He's my former Turbo from my Wreck-It Ralph rp blog days. Now, granted, my Turbo was already pretty disjointed from WiR even in his initial creation, but once I left that era of my life, I didn't want to just throw him into the pit. I still wanted to use him for something; I loved him too much to do that. A fresh coat of paint, a new backstory, and he's now a part of my Fallout line up. Doesn't negate where he came from, however. But, again, if I hadn't said anything, only maybe two or three people would have known.
However, these characters are so disjointed from their original content that they're not that anymore and haven't been associated with their former selves for a long time. Without mentioning anything, most people would be none the wiser unless you previously knew me from those eras of my life. And I am still further developing these characters to further disjoint them from their origins. Vague references at best (Savino and his brothers initials being the same, as well as their crew still being called the Midnight Crew or Jason still sporting the facial markings I'd originally given my Turbo).
There's no real excuse to steal another person's character, however. Outright laying claim or using another person's character for any reason, especially without doing any sort of changes is no different than plagiarism. And, quite frankly, you must be quite the miserable person to do as such. Kinda makes me wonder, what else are you hiding.
Sure, it's possible to have a character that's similar to somebody else's without realizing it until someone points it out. It does happen, quite a lot. However, I also see it more often than naught someone just sees a character, hates how the original creator is portraying them, and then steals it. When they're called out about it, they throw a temper tantrum, claiming that it's totally their own character for sure. Some people are just cheeky cunts and extremely blatant about it.
Theft/plagiarism isn't something that should be taken lightly. Nor is it something that you should just throw around willy fucking nilly. It's a serious claim. And to claim something that you know doesn't actually fall under plagiarism/theft, honestly makes you a shit human being. It's time to learn that not everything you do isn't actually original.
I'll be the first to tell you, just because I ran my shit through a plagiarism checker and got 100% original content? Doesn't mean that I'm not the first person to come up with a brothel in a church or a scummy bad guy kidnapping someone for leverage to rule something. I'm not the first person to write two friends having drunken sex. And I know I won't be the last. You certainly aren't going to be the first to create your ideas either. But you also won't be the last, either.
Just, sit in your little bubble and create. And stay in your own goddamn lane. Unless it's actually, legitimately a beat-for-beat recreation of your work; just shut up. It's not as original as you might think it is.
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booksandchainmail · 1 year
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Pale 1.5
On the one hand, it is very funny to me that so far this investigation consists of asking everyone "Did you do it?", but on the other hand, that raises some interesting questions about the murderer.
No one involved in this case should be able to lie, and it seems reasonable to assume that everyone knew there would be an investigation of some source, and had to have taken precautions. Which means whoever arranged this has to either a) think they wouldn't be considered a suspect/questioned or b) have done so in a way that they can honestly say they didn't kill the Carmine Beast.
Some possibilities below the cut:
working through a proxy, ie they gave the order but didn't do the deed. This seems risky? "Did you kill or order killed the Carmine Beast" is a logical question to ask
working through multiple proxies, so that culpability has spread thinly by the time it gets back to you. Not sure how well this would work
working indirectly through a proxy "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest" style, ie implying that they would like the Carmine Beast dead without actually saying it to someone who will take action
Any of the above, but specifically using a mortal, non-practitioner proxy, so that the person who did the actual murder can lie about it
Arrange events so that someone unknowingly kills the Carmine Beast, leaving no intentional murderer. Probably would mean setting up some kind of trap, and letting someone else (or multiple people) trigger it. I think this was also how a murder was done in one of the DanganRonpas? Tricky to pull off, but seems less risky to get away with
They all killed the Carmine Beast, in one of those setups where everyone agrees to take simultaneous action so that no individual can know if they bear the guilt/blame, and all are equally culpable
Somebody we haven't met killed the Carmine Beast, and is hiding out (potentially with the help of some of those we did meet) until the investigation is over
There is an obvious killer, but they're a fall guy (similar to Mags in Pact) acting on someone else's behalf
The Carmine Beast killed herself, possibly at someone's instigation
natural causes
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chaifootsteps · 3 months
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The Quarry anon back again, thank you very much for your insights! I remember you at some point saying you were part Romani and genuinely wanted the opinion of someone who isn't an overly cautious politically correct individual who probably means well but has an attitude over cultures that aren't even theirs.
But yeah! The Quarry was pretty good but idk if I can 100% recommend it. It suffered heavily due to covid and lots and lots of content needed to be cut. The ending is erupt and underwhelming and the start is slow to get through (in my opinion ofc) but it's definitely the type of game you can watch someone else play instead of struggling through it alone, or with awful friends who want to kill all the characters lol. I just love the company that made the game because they made Until Dawn, my favorite game and a game that actually portrays wendigos the way they're supposed to be! At least to me and my father's side anyways. They did fall into some of the obvious traps when it comes to utilizing native mythos but it's still really well done on their part. One of the characters is also based on Jack Fiddler! Obviously I think Until Dawn is the better game but I'm biased since I didn't like how The Quarry handled one of my favorite mythos. If you ever have the time/chance, I recommend checking it/both out!
Definitely gonna check it out at some point! Thanks for the recommendation!
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goldenmorningglory · 2 years
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In regards to your ask about Mike saying ily - But we already know from that one Finn interview that he definitely says “I love you” to someone. So who else could it be besides El?
honestly when it comes to shows like stranger things, while interviews and all are interesting to watch, i take them with a grain of salt- yeah all of them. because stranger things as a show is very good at making you think it's painting a flower when actually it's painting a knife. sleight of hand is their bread and butter.
and there could be a number of people mike could say ily to. his sister who just got vecna'd for example. they never really talk much unless the world is ending and maybe mike realises that fact, realises just how close he got to losing his sister.
he could be saying it to el, only to tell that that it's different from how she loves him. a classic "it's not you it's me." and this is unrelated to whether he has feelings for will or not, because i feel mike and el need to break romantically. it helps neither of them. their dynamic would florish if they were friends rather than restricted by the trappings of romance.
now could he say ily to will? personally, I've watched too many fantastically queer shows to scramble for crumbs, but will has always been gay. it's not a question. S3 cemented the fact. so im sure that more than their blessed little heart to hearts they're gonna be having a bigger conversation- because mike never really did address why he acted the way he acted in california, why he felt as if he had lost will, when will was a phone call or letter away.
it could go any number of ways. the show being what it is, they'd never say something if they thought people would draw the obvious conclusion and that conclusion would be right. because most of the casual viewers are unfortunately people who are not looking for queer subtext and to them, they won't think beyond 'oh how sweet he finally confesses his undying love for el'.
but even they have realised that will is in love with mike or at least, has a crush. a rewatch would show you that mike has always treated will different. make will's character a girl and you'll get a classic bollywood movie where the girl is best friends with the guy and in love with him but refuses to tell him, only suffering when a new girl comes in a he falls for her. and everyone always roots for the best friend.
so you'll see, how just one change in gender changes the whole way non-queer people view a story. of course i don't need to elaborate on the whys and hows of that change in perspective.
mike's case feels like a classic 'came to realisations too fast and now he doesn't know how to handle them so he seeks the safety of familiarity rather than the risks of the unknown'. but I'm sure he'll realise just how much he was hurting himself and will by doing that. after all, why is it weird to tell you friend you love them if you're only friends? and why is it hard to tell your girlfriend you love her if you do and you know that not saying it was driving her and you apart? I'm sure mike didn't even need that fight to realise what el was asking from him right?
tldr; while mike maybe saying ily to el, I'd take that with a grain of salt. after all, mike is not a one dimensional character who only has the capacity to love el. the way el has been built through the love of more people than just mike.
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Another shadow form because op still doesn't know how this story will end lmao so just putting May through the suffering. She found you.
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Pain seared through her thigh as the crystal plunged deep into her flesh cutting through muscle and joining with the bone. She had cried out in agony feeling the blood start to trickle down her leg as it shook, she couldn't feel her toes anymore.
It's corrupting touch quickly spread through her as she'd struggled to stand whimpering at the pain as the wound deepened weeping more blood as tears fell from her eyes. She looked around for any aid any assistance spotting the dark hued mewtwo watching her with his glowing shoulder.
She'd fallen...why didn't he catch her? He could've easily grabbed her with psychic stopped her before the crystal even touched her skin. He, he was her friend wasn't he?
She closed her eyes for the pain unable to think properly as her thoughts swirled.
'It's quite obvious," a voice like hers chirped in her head, "it's because he doesn't actually care," the voice started to laugh, "no one cares about you! Not really!" It's laughter became purely manic as she slipped deeper into her own thoughts.
It was right... Matt didn't care he'd left he'd hated her... Darkness hadnt stuck around either... And Syn... He didn't see her as worth saving did he?...huh...she really didn't have anything left...
It opened it new eyes scelara consumed in blackness that spread over the pupils. The puppeted body shifted.
It was hungry.
She's not home end
So I dunno if I'll go with this but there was an ending idea where due to circumstances Syn notices May could very well be impaled by wild Synergy and allows it to happen probably he either thinks it'll give them something to bond over and/or because she rejected his corruption so like well /I/ didn't cause this directly so she can't be mad. May at this point only has Syn, she'll have had a falling out with Matt and though her and Darkness aren't on bad terms she knows really they're not close and she's not there and when she realises Syn just, let it happen she mentally spirals. Much like how his is intrusive thoughts the crystal does the same pushing at her spiralling pushing her deeper and deeper in despair so she just gives up. This is the depression ending of the stages of grief thing where she just falls into this depressive state trapped in her own mind and the crystal just grabs her and snuffs her out claiming it's new body because she's got nothing to fight for anymore no reason to resist. So Mays gone entirely, only the crystal and it's want for power remains and in turn they just go feral hiding out in spooky caves with more crystals growing out her skin much like with Syns body horror art. So far only on her injured side but it'll gradually shift over.
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I’m just kinda worried about Nico being another Koroko. What I mean is you have one character confirmed to be different from the other, Nico being nonbinary and Koroko being neurodivergent, and the latter was turned into a heartless monster. With how Nico is acting I sincerely hope the Despair Time doesn’t fall into that trap.
//Well, that's because LINUJ didn't bother doing any real research ^^;
//In all seriousness, I don't want to say it's because he's Korean, but given that the country has a poor understanding of mental health issues overall, it's also not too surprising. Same with canon and Toko's DID, although that's just a bad stereotype overall and isn't limited to East Asia.
//I totally understand where you're coming from, but we also shouldn't ascribe the "different = bad" formula to all cases evenly, especially when we're talking about neurodivergence vs. personal identity. These are different things and misunderstandings/poor attitudes in one don't automatically equate to others.
//Not to mention Whit has been confirmed to be bi and has done nothing stereotypical or biphobic, so I don't see any evidence that the creator has a problems with LGBTQ people
//Nico's attitude seems like it has more to do with how badly people have treated them for their identity and their fear for being judged and bullied by this group of people trapped in a small space, not simply because they're an enby.
//I know a lot of us have a very understandable knee-jerk reaction when we see characters like this put into bad situations, but we need to give writers a fair shake. Nico's identity and Ace's attitude has become such a big focus of this arc so far that I'm starting to feel that another anon's point about this chapter being about respect is becoming a lot more validated.
//Not to mention, this isn't the real world. This a murder mystery series full of twists and turns, and so having the obvious and very preemptive reveal of Nico being an attempted murderer? In this context, that actually makes them less likely to be the culprit.
//They're setting up for something different with this, I'm certain.
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House MD S6 Finale & S07E01
Time for me to have unpopular feelings and opinions about a decade-old show!!!
Even though House has never been a subtle show, the finale to season 6 was really just ham-fisted. I can't believe it got such high ratings. Very senior doctors are called in to help at an active emergency site - sure fine whatever suspending disbelief. The setting and makeup and practical effects and all that were great, but those are some of the most reliably good parts of the whole series.
However, the writing. Nobody seems to remember the part where House was in a major bus crash which nearly killed him and did actually kill his best friend's girlfriend and the depression spiral from that specific event was what precipitated his collapse and move into a mental hospital. Who cares about that, PTSD doesn't exist.
Then somehow as an audience we're also supposed to care about Cuddy suddenly getting married to Lucas.
And there is a patient literally trapped with her leg literally at risk of being chopped off in order to try to save her life. House wants to help her keep her leg for obvious reasons. Cuddy gets mad at him for idk its not really clear - he disagreed with her therefore he's trying to sabotage her marriage. The important thing is that House is going to handle this differently than when he was the one making the decision about amputation for himself because he has Changed.
And also House is trying to explain the crane operator falling asleep so that he stops blaming the accident on himself - he didn't hurt all those people, it was his medical condition. Once again really just drawing huge arrows in crayon at the message they're trying to send.
They couldn't just pick one of those ideas? Like yeah, we get it, House has feelings about his leg, Cuddy still has feelings about House, House feels bad about hurting people and wants to be better. None of this is revealing new information. It's all just crammed in there.
The trapped woman dies and House explodes because he keeps trying to do the right thing and it never works out for him - the only genuine feeling in the whole episode. So he's on the floor of his old bathroom with the Vicodin again. And Cuddy appears. Just like the hallucination. But oh no she has dumped Lucas for House~ how dramatic~. Then also btw Thirteen is quitting.
What??
It's not as bad as House/Cameron was! House/Cuddy works fine on the level of flirting and maybe an old crush, but as it became escalated to "I've been in love with you for 20 years" - barf. Feels very much like they Needed to have a House romance plot twist for the finale and they can't possibly come up with a new love interest (or make Wilson canon) so Cuddy it is. The more Dramatic Events per episode the better, right?
And then watching the first episode of the new season, the writers were in a real hurry to show that this relationship can *totally* work you guys like this was always supposed to be endgame. The characters are talking to each other on such a superficial level that I would expect from like... a 15 year old's first fanfiction. I know this show is bad. I know it. Somehow this just really irritated me. Send help, I'm actually thinking about looking up fandom reactions from back then to see if I'm totally off base here.
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Since I can't keep myself out of Meteors fun, here's some nonsense: Eddie and Cassie trying to help with Roxy's aquaphobia by trying to get her to walk on (safe!) ice in the wintertime.
Meteors is fun! Glad you're having fun with it too cause it's great!!
Been thinking about this one and... honestly? I don't think Roxy would actually know what ice is outside of the cubes in your drink. Why would she? Nothing but ice in drinks would have ever been relevant to her before. She would probably know that ice melts and becomes water, but she would have never seen it in any other setting than a drink...
Which gives me the idea of her frequenting a park with a pond or mini lake or whatever, experiencing winter for the first time ever and stopping to think like. Why is there... not water here anymore? Where'd it go??? Did they just cover it over or something???? Ohhhh she can WALK on this!! Oh it's cold though... and slippy, actually. Huh... Calling Eddie and Cassie over to check out this cool thing on the water and they find her sliding on it like :D lmao
I like to make Eddie a bit of a worry wart. A very safety oriented guy, that is trying to make the unsafe things that Roxy does and deserves to do as safe as possible (such as an emergency phone, drilling on emergency numbers, first aid stuff, general rules he is praying she's abiding by in that death trap of a Pizzaplex) and oh the heart attack he had seeing her fucking around on literal thin ice oh ye gods lmao
The fun part is explaining this to her to get her off the ice. Just shouting what she's standing on and she's like "WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S ICE??? THIS ISN'T A CAFE!!" Gets off the ice, Eddie breaks through it with a rock and she's staring like O.O oh...
STILL
First winter is fun!! So is introducing Roxy to ice skating provided Eddie or a friend of his can make her some ice skates cause uh... that's the problem with paws for feet. Not really accommodated for :( and if they do this after the bit where she learns it's a large body of frozen water then she is scared what do you mean it's fun??? This is AWFUL why would you DO this are you all INSANE????
Cassie convinces her to come and try it after a long explanation of how an ice rink is made and... oh the sad dog noises... she is regretting every decision she's ever made... She's being constantly reassured as she slowly walks her way around the rink, clinging to the walls in case the ice breaks and there's water under it. "Roxy, it's okay! There's nothing under the ice but the floor!", "YOU DON'T KNOW THAT!!"
They might need to get an employee that works there to explain that it's just flat ice on the floor. It wouldn't be safe for the public otherwise! Roxy gives them the flattest look and says "I was an animatronic at Fazbears." and suddenly everyone in the vicinity has decided to never go to Fazbears again lmao that is not a promising sentence to hear
Pfft she is finally convinced - but still wary - that the ice isn't going to break and dunk her in ice water and she starts to let Cassie take her a little away from the wall. They're holding hands, arms out for balance and slowly building up speed the longer they spend there while Eddie is ahead guiding and encouraging them. When Roxy gets the confidence to go a little bit on her own, she falls... and yelps like she's stabbed or something. Eddie and Cassie immediately help as she scrambles and slips trying to get back up and when asked what she hurt (cause it must have hurt) she answers, "My FEELINGS"
They're both TRAITORS! She fell and the ice was wet why didn't they say anything?! Now her paws are wet and she can't stand wet paws how could they do this to her??? They sorta thought it would be obvious that if ice is made of water it's probably gonna wet that's their bad but they thought she broke her face is she for real-
Just sad dog noises as she keeps waving her paws around like a cat that stuck their paw in the water bowl and forgot there's water in there. "So........... do you want those mittens now?", "...... Yeah ;-;" They're all fine btw. Roxy was just spooked cause she didn't expect the water and immediately thought the worst in the moment. While she doesn't verbally apologise, she does tell them she's sorry about scaring them in her own little ways that she's learned. By this time, they probably understand what she's trying to say, and if not, then she says what she's doing it for if they ask. But anyway fuck that here's an idea
After coming down from the Spook of Ice being Wet, Cassie the absolute genius comes up with an idea to make this more fun. You know how at ice rinks they have those uhhh things for kids that can't skate that's like a penguin with handles and platform for them to stand on? Roxy and Cassie, to Eddie's never ending amusement and slight anxiety, take turns sitting on one while the other pushes it around. How hard they can shove each other across the ice depends on how long it takes for staff to stop them lmao they're still careful about trying to keep Roxy off the floor but with mitts on and her not falling as hard or suddenly and in a goofy silly way, it's not as bad.
Still bad though. The sad pupper noises return every time her fur gets wet from a fall until it's dried enough. They decide to go rollerskating next time. Less stuff to worry about there. I mean, who would put water under a roller rink, right?
#meteors au#meteors roxy#meteors cassie#meteors eddie#just 'what do you MEAN this is ICE??'#sdfsfdfs#the important thing with meteors roxy is that just. doesn't have the same information as your average person#she's not stupid by any means#she's just drawing from a different set of experiences to everyone else#she knows very little outside what's relevant to her#what she's told about the outside is filtered down to what the speaker thinks is interesting#which generally speaking#is not that all water can be ice or that freezing water is how you get ice#ice melts into drinks. she would have only seen ice in drinks. she may have asked about it before and found out the ice melts to water#but I've a feeling she wouldn't be too sure because with her fancy eyesight from before... she couldn't SEE water#that's the basis of the fear#water and glass aren't things she could normally see unless it's coloured bright enough#now in meteors she CAN see and gets to find out the hard way that ice really does equal water#ice on a lake being a cover put there by someone? why WOULDN'T she think that?#her understanding is rooted in the Pizzaplex where everything is human made and controlled#if the water is covered then SOMEONE must have done it for some reason#maybe the water needs cleaning or something?#the real world is DIFFERENT though it's NATURE and FREE and ALIVE#it works so differently in ways she's never seen before and thus: would need a lot of this stuff explaining#her understanding is of an entirely corporate environment and now she's Not in a corporate environment and it's all weird now#what do you MEAN ice is WATER?? what do you MEAN that makes it WET?? who DESIGNED this?!#she'll get there lmao#they just gotta give her the information she needs to get there first#easier said than done when the things she's never seen are things you just wouldn't think about!#fun though
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Pitch me a new movie
Okay, so this is actually an idea I've been toying with for a long time, but have never really known how to execute.
The idea is:
A movie about some kind of tragic failure of a person to realize their true purpose. The movie starts in the middle of the story, after the protagonist has been in the main "loop" for a long time, but they don't yet know this. The movie then covers their last cycle, which takes place after some sort of very drastic change that is actually the "final" catalyst of the story.
I guess it's about how people can get trapped in loops of behavior that they don't understand, and have no obvious connection to anything else, but then they do something that puts them into an entirely new cycle, after which they can say "ah, I see now."
Basically, the main plot should be some tragic, detached cycle of behavior that the protagonist eventually realizes is unimportant. But then, to set up the first half of the film, you have to show the protagonist previously in an earlier cycle -- a cycle in which the behavior in question is important, as a step toward realizing the protagonist's destiny. So the middle of the movie covers the end of the protagonist's final cycle, and their last moments of triumph before their death, knowing that their death is the "culmination" of the story -- but then the film cuts to the previous cycle and shows us what the protagonist did that led to their death, which seems unrelated to the cycle they're dying in, and seems to have no importance beyond itself. (The protagonist doesn't know this.)
Another example: The protagonist is trying to win back a lover, but he's inexperienced and can't think of any good ideas, so he doesn't say anything for a while. He just writes them letters and gives them to her friends and asks them to give them to her. His friends try to convince him to leave it alone, but he's determined. His friends finally give up and stop giving the letters to her, but the protagonist keeps writing them. He ends up writing hundreds of them, until he runs out of paper and can't write anymore.
The lover comes to her friend and says that she thinks he's harassing her, and wants her friend to help her get away from him. Her friend is sympathetic but afraid to do anything, so she asks a friend of hers to take the lover away for a while, maybe to another city, without telling the protagonist.
When the protagonist runs out of paper, his friends don't know what to do. They try to figure out what to do next, but realize they don't understand the true nature of his problem and need to learn more. The protagonist is also confused, and eventually, with no other ideas, decides to write his lover some last letter and send it, which he does, and which she receives. It is on this letter that he decides he has spent the last "last letter," and he has no more words to say. So he decides to take this last letter, put it in a box, and send it through the mail -- so that it is the last letter he ever sends.
His friends hear about this, and realize that the protagonist is now going to have no way to contact the lover, or even tell her that he will miss her. So they decide to leave a couple letters for him, and leave them in the places where he was most likely to find them in the previous cycle. This gives him just one more chance to say goodbye.
Then the film cuts to the previous cycle. We see the protagonist going through some earlier cycles, and we also see him meeting this lover for the first time -- and he falls in love with her, but it doesn't work out. He blames this on her but still feels that he lost something by not being with her.
Back in the previous cycle, we see the protagonist as a determined lover. When his lover doesn't want to see him again, he decides to continue seeing her, even though she tells him to stop. He feels that she loves him, but she doesn't, so she doesn't want to talk to him anymore. He decides to write her lots of letters, although she doesn't want him to do this. He writes letters to her and hands them to her friends who don't know what to do. He buys presents for her, which she throws out. He does the same things over and over again -- he thinks he's trying to make her see how much he loves her, but really he's just wasting time in the world.
Finally, at the end of this cycle, he has to move away, so he returns all of the letters and gifts he had been giving to her to the lover. His lover now realizes that she never really loved him, and in fact she hated him, and some time later she writes the protagonist a letter telling him this, and then she dies. And the protagonist realizes this was a huge mistake, and how he had been wasting all this time when he could have been doing other things. So, in the end of the previous cycle, he returns the letters, and now he knows he is going to move away, and he tells his friends that he's going to leave, and we cut to the last cycle, where the protagonist's friends are trying to figure out how to save him.
The protagonist, who is unseen, thinks he's the protagonist of the story, and that his end is the "culmination" of the story, but it's really just his death. And, in turn, his end is just a culmination of something else entirely -- of his earlier, actual life -- but he doesn't realize this.
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"There’s been a disturbance at the Grand Crossroads!" Hearing the news, we rushed to the Grand Crossroads in the center of Sorciana.
KAI : Fuck, this is bad. These buildings are falling apart!
SION : Where are the civilians? Looks like the guards have evacuated the place. But there's still mages and sorcerers here.
GUI : Aww… what in the world is going on?
EMMA : (Kai is right. But… If there's signs of a struggle… Where are the Black Fairies?)
ITSUKI : Hmmm. Such a desolate place with buildings collapsing and debris everywhere… I'm getting a sense of déjà vu.
That's when it happened.
EMMA : Explosions…!?
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JOE : Ungh…. Goddammit!
ACE : Brother, if you keep this up you're gonna get hurt!
EMMA / ITSUKI : The Dark Night Duo?!
CROW : Don't you dare run away from me!
EMMA : Crow…!?
??? : Emma, over here!
EMMA : Gran! What's going on here…?
GRANDFLAIR : We've been keeping a close eye on these two, and heard there was a big meeting of sorcerers and magicians.
GRANDFLAIR : A large crowd like this seemed an obvious target… And sure enough, here they are.
GRANDFLAIR : I warned the police these two were dangerous and had the guards evacuate the town.
GRANDFLAIR : …I can't let them use the Black Fairies like this, but…
EMMA : But…?
SORCEROR 1 : Nuh-Uh! You outdated old wizards! Why can't you see the progress we've made using Sorcery!?
MAGICIAN 1 : Shut up, you're all fools who can't use magic without the help of cheap tricks and formulas! I'll show you what real magic is capable of!
SORCIANA POLICEMAN 1 : You guys stop arguing with each other and get out of here!
MAGICIAN 2 : I don't think so, I'm settling this right here, right now!
SORCEROR 2 : All right, let's do this!
GRANDFLAIR : Heh… So this is how it's going to be.
KAI : Ugh… I can't believe they're still fighting at a time like this…
GUI : Yeah, but… The magician, and the sorcerer… Things don't seem to be all that violent~……
SION : Infighting and petty harassment. It's the traditional art of confrontation.
EMMA : Umm… Wait… So what actually happened to the buildings around here…
ITSUKI : Ha… There's that déjà vu. The ruins Crow destroyed looked an awful lot like this.
JOE : Hahh! Now for Ace's Big Bomb!
CROW : Whoaaaah!
Joe's grenade blows another building to pieces, trapping Crow under the rubble.
EMMA : Crow!
ITSUKI : It's okay, Emma!
EMMA : What…?
The rising dust fades away and a figure breaks through the debris without a scratch.
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CROW : Talk about luck. Seems you blew up everything but me…
JOE / ACE : What!?
ITSUKI : Crow can take care of himself.
EMMA : Yeah, thank goodness… But!
CROW : Okay, now it's my turn. MY special grenade!
JOE / ACE : GWAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
ITSUKI : All this destruction… Seems Crow and these two jerks are to blame.
SORCIANA POLICEMAN 2 : Oh, it's you guys. Are you with that guy!? Please, stop him!
SORCIANA POLICEMAN 3 : They're out of control! And the mages and sorcerers aren't listening, either!
EMMA : I'm sorry!
GRANDFLAIR : Crow, stop being so reckless! There are still people here we need to evacuate!
CROW : I know! But these guys aren't exactly pulling punches!
JOE : Hah, you've been a worthy opponent… But it's time we stop playing around!
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EMMA : Is that a… Black Fairy Gun!?
CROW : I won't let you!
JOE : What the--!
Crow's attack knocks the Black Fairy Gun out of Joe's hands.
Without pause, Crow rushes toward Joe and his brother.
CROW : No way am I gonna let you use that!
JOE : What… What the Hell are you…
ACE : H-Hey, bro!!
CROW : What is it with you people? What the hell are you tryna do, letting the Black Fairies run free?
CROW : You're gonna tell us everything.
JOE : Heh… Yeah, yeah, you're all talk…!
As Joe tries to back away, Crow raises his gun.
CROW : Huh? What was―
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??? : Oh~, now that's one unusual gun. And very old, too. Is it a favorite of yours?
CROW : H-Hey? What are you--!? How did you get my--
??? : It's not just your gun, y'know?
??? : Now, what have we got here?
CROW : Eh? …That's my pouch!? The one with the all my free food coupons! Give it back, dammit!
??? : You really think I'd give it back just because you asked me to? You're very naive. I can only imagine how hard this life is on you~…
CROW : Don't even think about it!
??? : Whoops, look at you getting all worked up. The youth of today.
??? : Then, I'll just have to do my best, too.
CROW : Where'd he go?!
GRANDFLAIR : Huh? What's that… My brush is gone!?
ITSUKI : Wow, so is my cane…!
??? : Are you sure that's all~?
ITSUKI : What the--!! My wallet is… I can't find it! Oh no, I'm going to end up like Rouge!
GRANDFLAIR : My glasses…!
??? : Oumi, Oumi♪
EMMA : Wh-Who are you…?
The man flipped his cloak.
He turned to me and gracefully put his hand on his chest.
??? : Nice to meet you, my lady~…
NANASHI : I'm Nanashi, Phantom Thief, a pleasure to make your acquaintance.
EMMA : "Phantom Thief"…!?
CROW : You… Are you with these two?
NANASHI : I guess you could say I'm the boss. You took care of my men in Record.
NANASHI : I still owe you for that. So I'm here to steal a certain something.
CROW : A certain something….?
NANASHI : You know, the heart of that young lady right there?
EMMA : What?
EMMA : Um… I can't do that…
NANASHI : Haha, I was rejected in seconds. Now that is quite heartbreaking.
NANASHI : Well… You might not like me, but soon you'll be glued to your seats.
EMMA : Ehh-!?
NANASHI : Mateo, come on out!
The moment Nanashi snaps his fingers, a monstrous Black Fairy materializes behind him…
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MATEO : Ah… Wooooooooooooooooooo!!!
EVERYONE : A Black Fairy…!!
NANASHI : Lookie here, I'll even give you your weapons back. Now come on everyone!
NANASHI : This charade is over, my dear friends!
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A little disclaimer, this is about the Vecna leak from a few months back. My theory could also be wrong as I didn’t read the full thing, but I figured I’d ask for your thoughts anyway lol.
Okay, putting it bluntly, I think the leaker misinterpreted what they saw on screen. There’s no chronological way Vecna can be “you know who” without time travel stuff going on (which technically could be the case, but for now i’m disregarding that). However, they could have an attachment to Vecna if they were to be like a Nothic.
On DND Vecna’s wiki it mentions pretty openly that he sets traps for Wizards seeking knowledge which turn them into Nothics. These Nothics act as eyes for The Arch-Lich and are basically bent to be under his control. What if this is the same for “you know who”? If what’s been said about their affiliation to HNL is true, then they’re bound to share abilities similar to El, so maybe they inadvertently crossed over to The Ud and ended up falling into a trap which put them in a similar situation to Will in s2? Only like, more violent.
Think the same thing that happened with Creel, but theoretically, in the lab.
If that’s true, then I wonder if Eleven even caused the “Massacre at Hawkin’s Lab”. Maybe she ended up sending “you know who” away temporarily? Explains the still of younger her with bloodied eyes, which is something we only see when she overclocks her ability and energy output. What’s strange to me is how “you know who” manages to reappear and just. Not be evil? But maybe Vecna being put into dormancy explains why they aren’t a threat until this season, though i’m not sure about that either.
Ok this is going to be quite a tricky one to not give away so if anyone reading this doesn't want leaks or spoilers for S4, please skip this post. I will try keep it as mild, vague and open as possible but it's might be more obvious than I intended.
In terms of the leaker, as your said they could've misinterpreted the information or maybe just lied. There didn't seem to be any evidence (at least not on the Hawkins AV Club subreddit) and it is kind of a combination of popular fan theories. I'm going to be acting as if they did see this and it's what they actually saw.
If 'you know who' is Vecna, then there are a few possibilities to how this could happen. First up, time travel. I don't think they'd do this as it makes stuff very complicated, however this person probably has powers like Eleven so maybe their power is to manipulate time like Eleven manipulates space. Maybe this time travel somehow went wrong and they got stuck in the UD for a few decades? But then how would the Creel stuff go down in that scenario? It would have to introduce some timeline stuff about how it is all set and you can't change the past, like the time turner in Harry Potter. Even then, the motivation doesn't really make sense as this character seems to be kind and anti-violence. The only explanation I could think of is if they're mind flayed when they're stuck in the UD, which could explain the killings.
Also, and correct me if I'm wrong, we have no confirmation that this character exists in the present. Maybe they were with Creel back in the 50s and we see them in flashbacks? But then how would they have gotten to Creel before working there? Those are the two explanations of how I think this could take place although they both have issues which the show would have do address. Like you said, the leaker could've lied or misinterpreted stuff.
I can definitely get behind 001 being Vecna, and it's been my top theory for a while (although it still has flaws). Whilst I believe Brenner didn't know about the Upside Down, maybe he knew about the sort of in between dimension that Eleven goes into. What if all the experiments were a front to the government so he could try and contact 001 who was trapped in the void or in the Upside Down? They've mentioned this season will talk about the origins of the UD, Eleven and more, so I think this would be interesting. It also makes it more emotionally complex for Eleven.
Now onto your nothic theory. In terms of Eleven, this would definitely make the most sense. I don't believe Eleven would mass murder children. Even if it was by accident, I still do not see it. She's certainly prone to snapping, if you look at her past, but she's got control over her powers and is also shown to be empathetic and merciful (like to the man from HNL in S2). Her being possessed would be the only explanation for this. I think that again, this would fit better with Vecna being 001. Brenner could've tried to get Eleven to contact him only for Vecna to pull a Billy (especially if they were mind flayed) and contact her instead. Except 001 is now Vecna, who has their powers and possibly the mind flayer's combined, is a lot more hostile and takes over Eleven. Maybe when Brenner (another spoiler) yells 'what have you done?' he's yelling at 001 and not at Eleven.
I also think this makes sense in the case of 'you know who'. Maybe when the person who found the leak, they only found out that they were possessed by Vecna so they assumed they were Vecna. This could make sense, as he's definitely in a position to kill a lot of people including Creel who's definitely a threat to Vecna if he spills some details to Robin and Nancy.
Thanks for the ask (: I hope this post was helpful, if rambling on a bit.
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