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#sometimes i feel like i see more people hate on vaggie than i see people hate on Valentino
barb-l · 15 days
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While im on the topic, the seething hatred by a huge chunk of this fandom towards Vaggie is so baffling to me. I'm not saying I expected her to be popular. I'm not new to loving an unpopular/ignored character. But the way some of these people go out of their way to misinterpret her so badly to justify their very vocal hatred for her is just such a huge shock.
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Was wandering how the crew would react to a reader with animalistic beahavior (reader that acts like an animal something).
Like how a dog would be possessive of smt, tounge hanging out, suddenly extremely happy, or like a cat doing long stretches and sleeping in small conners.
P.S this is my first request and I really like your format of writing, keep up the good work 👍.(if you don't want to do this I completely understand, it is a rather strange request so no need to fell bad😗)
Characters: Charlie, Vaggie, Alastor, Husker, Angel, Niffty, Sir Pentious & Lucifer
Warnings: None.
A/N: That's a totally fine request! I'm glad you like my writing :} Thanks for the ask Anon and sorry for taking so long.
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𖤓Charlie
• Finds you adorable, she enjoys your shenanigans and makes sure that you don't feel ashamed by them, it's something you can't control.
• She has experience with taking care of pets, like Kiki, Razzle and Dazzle; so she totally would make the space around you comfortable for you to act the way you want. I also think that Kiki would sometimes hiss at you for no reason but Charlie is trying her best to make Kiki like you more.
• She would ask if you were okay with her petting you sometimes, she's not malicious or anything, she just truly loves seeing how your face would immediately soften with her touch.
• Likes when you sleep close to her, all curled up in couch or in bed, your presence helps her relax when she ends up too stressed trying to make the hotel work.
𖤓Vaggie
• She's not the biggest animal enjoyer but wouldn't mind you doing your own thing. She does have some experience since she helped Charlie take care of her own pets but watching someone that was previously a human act like that makes her side-eye a few of your actions.
• Would be more helpful if your demon form is similar to a bird, if you had wings she would offer herself to peel your feathers and clean them up so you don't have to do it alone. She was a angel before and had to do the same things but she won't tell you that part.
• You would end up scaring her sometimes tho, she would be going down stairs to grab some water and she would see your figure just down the hall, eyes shining in the shadows as your head quickly turned to look at her, making it even more creepy. She stares at you for a few moments before slowly going back up without her water.
• That would keep happening until she just got used to it and started having midnight snacks with you, even falling asleep with you curled up around her in the couch, she suffers from insomnia and your presence makes her fall asleep easier, but she always wakes up earlier than you so you're always alone in the couch by the morning.
• Stills thanks you thought, in a way no one hears, she's too embarrassed to admit to everyone she has trouble sleeping but you don't mind keeping it a secret, especially when she's being way nicer to you.
𖤓Alastor
• Finds you amusing, I imagine him being rather surprised when he first saw you demonstrate your more animal side, probably thinking at first that you were stupid or something.
• He already likes to mess with Husker, treating him like an actual pet so you would be no different, you may not own your soul to him but living under the same roof means having to deal with his annoying treatment towards you.
• Would pull you around with him and present you to people as if you were his actual pet, ordering you around and making you fetch things for him. And he always talks with you in the most forced cute voice ever, now you get why Husker hates this guy.
• If you ever try to intimidate him by pretending you're going to bite him or something along those lines he'll simply give you a stern look and a slightly more forced smile before saying something along the lines of “What a fiesty one.”. To put it simple, he likes to make your life miserable and there's no way to get rid of him.
𖤓Husker
• He's also technically a animal, he looks more like a cat than he looks human at least and had to deal with controlling his instincts as well, he understand your struggles and will be there to help you control them.
• If your sinner form was more cat-like than he would find it easier to teach you but has advices for other animal related demon forms as well, he makes sure you feel good with yourself.
• But a few of his own animal behaviors would show up by default because you're there. He would rub his face against your arms, his ears would peark up when he hears your voice and there were multiple ocasions were you two feel asleep curled up around each other.
• But you do similar stuff as well so he feels less pathetic when letting his cat side win for a few minutes. Just never dare to talk about how he purrs around you, he'll have your head if you do so.
𖤓Angel
• He enjoys annoying you and making bad sexual jokes about your behavior (like calling you a pussy out of nowhere or something along those lines). He also totally would play pranks that would awaken your more animalistic side.
• Like, I imagine you're literally just chilling on the lobby's couch and then suddenly there's one of those cat lasers moving all around the place and you can't help but chase it around while he's laughing loudly in the background.
• Takes photos of you when you're not looking, but not normal distracted photos, he only takes them when you're doing something embarrassing. The only sweet photos he has of you are the ones you're with Fat Nuggets, be with him sleeping in your lap or just playing with him.
• Would probably buy you a dog-collar for your birthday as a prank, but it actually looks kind nice, being all decorated and having you name in the pendant so if you somehow don't feel too embarrassed to use it he would give you a sly smile before coming back to do whatever he does normally.
𖤓Niffty
• If you have any animal characteristics she'll totally stop everything she's doing to play with your tail/ears/wings or whatever you have, you're a walking fluff ball for her.
• Would insist on helping you bathe, she actually knows ways that not even you knew to keep your hair and fur/wings clean and soft. She would make sure you're all cleaned up.
• Would be more than pleased to receive dead animals if you bring them to her. She would make them onto furniture around the hotel and her room or just turn part of them into accessories.
𖤓Sir Pentious
• Secretly finds you adorable, like, have you seen the way he looked at Kiki when she sat on his lap? He's a total sucker for animals but pretends he isn't.
• You can catch his pupils growing bigger and his eyes shine while he looks at you do anything that resembles a small animal, like stretch yourself, get a sudden burst of energy or sit in high places at the hotel, he tries to play it cool when he notices you’re looking at him but is terrible at hiding that he was staring.
• Would build things for you if you asked him, sometimes without you even asking, for you to put out those animal instincts in more healthier ways insitead of on the hotel, and would keep it a total secret, he doesn't want to make you embarrased.
• He would ask, in a very timid way if he can pet you, if you ask why he wants to pet you he would probably say something among the lines of: “B-because I'm petting EVERYONE HERE!”
𖤓Lucifer
• He loves animals, he helped create some of them back in the days when he was still in heaven so he has a special place in his heart for them, if your sinner form has animal characteristics you can be sure he'll be orbiting around you in pure bliss.
• Asks you a lot of questions on how your body works, what's your diet, how much time it took for you to adjust, even more personal questions, he's kinda oblivious to the fact that you may be uncomfortable with them, he's just so curious (even more if you so happen to have a sinner form similar to a bird).
• Would have a special area designed just for you in his Apple Tower in the hotel where you like to hang out for a big part of the day, watching him build his ducks or anything else he's feeling like building that day. He eventually breaks the silence between him and you when he has a new question to ask but tries to let you be as much as possible.
• When you do anything that he remotely finds adorable, he will start talking in those sweet voices that you use to talk to pets or babies, he's not treating you like an actual animal, he just can't contain his adoration for your behaviors to himself, don't worry, he won't talk to you like that in public, not after he notice how uncomfortable you looked in front of the others. He'll save his reactions for when you two are just by yourselfs.
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al1fers-haven · 24 days
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Platonic hazbin hotel cast and gn!teen!reader with the personality of loona from helluva boss 👀
It could be a list of hcs or a oneshot. Either way is fine ^^
Hazbin Hotel x GenZ!Reader Headcannons
Imma do this as headcannons because...I can't really find any storyline for this lol CHARLIE
one of the things that Charlie seemed to actually figure out the most was why you were so moody lol, she went through that emo phase too but...yours was sticking a bit too long to be a phase.
She had mentioned a couple times that they were going to focus on your issues separately to keep you from feeling bad, but she never actually went for it. Scared it would set you off a bit.
outside of that, she thought you were adorable, treating you more like a younger sister than a normal hotel attendee.
Sees more of herself in you than she would like to admit, and doesn't truly understand why you are in hell but...she doesn't push.
VAGGIE
Oh god, you and vaggie DO NOT MIX. It's one thing to put two demons together, but Vaggie already acts like a depressed teen at times.
She doesn't really...demand respect but she tries to act motherly towards you and just fails miserably.
You think she is trying to be controlling because you are younger and don't know as much.
Genuinely thinks you can be redeemed, and that if anyone has shot at it, it would be you.
Despite the fact you two don't get along, you come to her for some issues that you know she would be good with, like trying to get better and maintain friendships. that doesn't happen often tho.
You and her mixed is awful for boardgames too, talk about competitive.
You and her definitely got a lot of bad blood on, especially if you get all mean with charlie and yell.
ANGEL DUST
Oh god, it's a beautiful friendship.
You and angeldust get along more than needed, despite both being assholes at times, you both love each other and think a lot of one another.
You are usually the one taking care of him (along with Husk) Whenever he gets too rowdy at clybs, not only that but he takes care of you when you are unstable as well.
You don't do well with men, or any sort of family figure that is a man so as much as you try you always blow up.
You deeply care for the spider porn star but sometimes your personality makes it harder than you'd like. And he is one of the people inside the hotel that understands this the most, it's what you guys bonded over.
LOVES YOUR ATTITUDE.
He thinks your absolutely hilarious and wishes that when he was your age he had half the courage to say the shit you say. Watching you tell Alastor he was a braindead prick? Oh it made his day.
But that worried him a little bit, while he was happy you hadn't been roped into any sort of deal or contract, he was worried you'd say something to the wrong person. And if you ever did he would be there in a heartbeat
you two usually get drunk together since he doesn't want you going to any bars alone (Which you hate, but understand) So he won't help you with the hangover, but he will be right next to you throwing up in the sink as you throw up in the toilet :) HUSK
If you had to have a father bond with anyone? It would be Husk. He refuses to give you drinks for no reason and even has late-night talks with you.
scolds you for not being careful and respecting yourself, and usually just sits there as you yell at him till you say something truly horrible to him.
(Which isn't a lot, this guy can take more than he admits.)
But at the end of the day, he's there to give you advice and let you ramble on about the shitty stuff going on in your life,
hell he even lets you drink if it's truly bad
he's more scared of you ending up like him than you getting drunk young, you are in hell.
definitely helps you to bed and takes care of you when you are drunk or after you are drunk. Seems like the type to have a soft spot for emotionally troubled drunk teens. ALASTOR
Oh god, he hates you.
if it wasn't for the fact you were a part of the hotel or one of Charlie's favorites. He would have killed you by now due to the comments you threw at him.
He couldn't tell who he would rather be in a room with, velvette? Or you.
Despite all of that he had an open mind to your behavior, understanding you were an emotional teen.
but that did NOT make the whole 'fossil' joke suddenly funny to him.
You two have bonded over a couple things, suits, food, and your insomnia. At the end of the day you still hated each other.
But he would totally cover you up if you fell asleep on the couch or something like that.
If you listen to his radio show he actually might start being nice to you, he's a sucker for teens as well. Especially if you are a girl.
DEFINITELY IMAGINE DEADPOOL AND THE SUPERSONIC GIRL FROM THE FIRST MOVIE.
"So what's it going to be? Mean comment? Or long sullen silence." "....you got me in a corner here." NIFTY
you two were an odd duo, usually, you sat through her horrible roach puppet shows and tried to hype her up, but in the end, you just couldn't.
she still appreciated you watching them and not booing.
Definitely tries not to get on your bad side, but ends up being annoying on accident,
you can't be mad at her though... SIR PENTIOUS (or however you spell it.)
This man obviously had cried multiple times because of your attitude and yelling.
He is a softy at heart, and you try to feel bad but he just makes it so easy.
the snake jokes are never-ending, especially if you two decide to form a bond? but I doubt that would ever happen...man is sensitive.
Didn't catch him during the trust fall, instead gagged about how slimy he was and called him a rude name.
Might make a part 2 to this, it's adorable
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fizziepopangel · 2 months
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“I’ll shelter and adore you more than anything…”
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Touch and words of affirmation are his top love languages. He’s been through a lot that’s really shaken his confidence and his beliefs. Hearing someone actively reassure or compliment him is a huge boost for him, as is feeling something solid and consistent in the form of touch (especially when these come from someone he cares for).
Lucifer absolutely blasts show tunes and sings at the top of his lungs while he’s in the shower.
Flirting goes straight over his head sometimes since people often use the “did it hurt when you fell from heaven” bit on him and it usually results in him trauma dumping and showing them the actual physical scars he has from literally falling from  heaven…. He never understands why people seem to drop out of the conversations after since they did ask him.
He frequently uses the phrase “I knew him personally, so I know that God only lets things grow until they’re perfect. Some people get there sooner than others.” when someone makes fun of his height.
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He sleeps in duck footie pajamas that Vaggie gifted him on his first father’s day since he and Charlie began talking again. Though she was embarrassed to give him a gift, he was absolutely over the moon excited since this means that his daughter’s girlfriend likes him.
Unbeknownst to the rest of the inhabitants of the hotel, Lucifer has a rubber duck that resembles them all. He often has to remake Alastors because when he’s upset with him, he tends to take his anger out on the Alastor-themed duck. At least one radio demon duck gets destroyed a week.
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Eats candied apples religiously
He only wears the hat to look taller. Alastor knows this and frequently steals his hat and then pokes fun at his height as the king of hell wanders around looking for the accessory.
Lucifer loves animals so once a month he gathers all the pets (this included Razzle and Dazzle prior to Dazzle’s death) of the hotel for a little playdates. He buys them cute little outfits, takes them to pet parks to play, buys them each a new toy, and gets them hell’s version of a pup cup.
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Yes, he did try to take Husk once because he does in fact view the man as a giant kitty that he really wants to win over…. And yes, Husk does go once, he regrets it immediately.
Despite them not exactly seeing eye to eye (partially because of the height difference), Lucifer and Alastor both enjoy cooking and get together with snacks to watch their favorite cooking show once a week. It started by accident, but since it became a weekly occurrence, they put aside their differences for the one night to enjoy the show together.
Lucifer bakes muffins and banana bread every weekend. He even teaches Niffty how to do it, she’s a flour covered mess by the end of it and her bread usually comes out rock hard and her muffins rarely rise, but Lucifer actually really enjoys the company and he finds the tiny woman rather amusing to spend time with.
After reconnecting with Charlie, Lucifer made it a point to have father/daughter dates once a month in an attempt to get to know her again. After realizing how big a role Vaggie plays in her life, he would start inviting her out with them too and referring to her as his future daughter in law.
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He absolutely hates geese.
Lucifer keeps his wings tucked away for most of the time when they aren’t needed, but he usually sleeps with them unfurled and spread across the bed when it’s warm out, or with them wrapped around himself when he’s cold.
While most people would think that the big boss of hell would be the all business type that drinks his coffee black, he actually prefers a soothing warm tea to coffee when given the option…. But if he has to have coffee, he usually has a cup that tends to be more creamer than coffee and it has to be tooth rottingly sweet.
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There’s a cabinet in the Hazbin Hotel kitchen full of mugs. Lucifer has 4 duck themed mugs in that cabinet… there were 6 but Alastor “accidentally” broke two.
Lucifer keeps one of Charlie’s baby photos in the pocket of his jacket, but as their relationship improves, he keeps a newer photo of the two of them together in his pocket with it too.
There’s a cabinet in the Hazbin Hotel kitchen full of mugs. Lucifer has 4 duck themed mugs in that cabinet… there were 6 but Alastor “accidentally” broke two.
Lucifer keeps one of Charlie’s baby photos in the pocket of his jacket, but as their relationship improves, he keeps a newer photo of the two of them together in his pocket with it too.
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chubs-deuce · 2 months
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Haaard agree on anti-Chaggie post (so sorry Chaggie shippers. We love you)
Alastor is known to steal the attention of people whenever he is on screen. But when he is with Charlie it makes it more interesting! They bounce off of each other in an entertaining way. Even if you don't ship them they are funny. Alastor is getting a kick out of just talking to Charlie. He finds her amusing (probably in a mean way lol). And Charlie while thinks he is an asshole, (cus he is!) she sees he tries to help her even with an obvious hidden ulterior motive.
They don't see eye to eye in their goals but at least they are both real characters with their own motivations and that makes them very dynamic with each other. Also they are both goofs, love 'em
Chaggie has fans within people that just want cute and non-dramatic relationships. Or just a queer couple that is wholesome without any dramatics. Valid!
It's just awkward that Vaggie is all about Charlie. This one thing puts me off. Considering my previous experience with it was in Steven Universe (Rose and Pearl, anyone?). But it's just personal thing. Sometimes things like that are funny like "they are obsessed with this person lololo" or "they are... Uncomfortably obsessed with this person"
[I think it depends on if the other person is on the same level? Charlie seemed somehow dismissive of Vaggie but it can be explained that the plot was just more focused on hotel than them (ugh 8eps. waiting for S2 to have fillers).]
Shipping is all about preferences and that's okay! My friend is a Chaggie shipper and I am a Charlastor shipper. I asked her to explain to me the appeal and she explained it as "a cute couple that has no conflict whatsoever. People like that exist and it's more common than very dramatic or action-driven couples". And I just like a bit fucked up dynamics where I watch someone in that dynamic go through some emotional turmoil (mostly Alastor<3) and also co-workers/housemates dynamic (when I need something cute and simple)
Some people just prefer down to earth things, especially if their life is a rollercoaster. What's important is to respect each other!
Sorry for a lil essay. I just think sometimes it's important to say "these are prefrences. We don't hate you for not liking your thing and the same goes in vice versa"
All fandoms have a group of people that is.... A bit too devoted to something. Respect others even if they don't like the same thing you do. Instead ask them to explain to you why they like it in a non-hostile manner or don't interact at all.
We're all tired of shipping wars, especially when some companies add oil to this fire to monetize more. I just want to get back to old fandom days when you both would be shopping different things and then end up in a make out session /j
Sorry for an essay again. Love your art, especially when you draw unhinged or going insane Alastor because Charlie makes him "feel". Thanks for all the content<3
This!!! So much this!!!
I hardly even need to add anything to this tbh, you already said everything that needs to be said perfectly!
I often like to think of shipping as the more adult version of playing with dolls, and that different people will play with their dolls differently! Some may prefer to follow the instructions on the packaging, playing with the toys exactly as intended, whereas others might find that boring and instead prefer to mix things up and do their own thing!
How I play with my set of dolls should have absolutely no impact on how you play with your own.
Thank you so much for writing out this ask, I'm honestly really glad to see that common sense and critical thinking skills within fandoms haven't completely died out yet lmfao
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rory-adenine · 3 months
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Okay but, I knew Charlastor was never going to be canon(with Al being ace, not confirmed if aro, and Charlie having a girlfriend, she and Vaggie are so cute together, just that Vivzie's storytelling is weak as hell but I got a lot of headcanons for them anyway) and people are acting like that ship has been killed when it never was going to be??? Canon??? Now they're saying I told you so... Like okay??? I can imagine in another universe where Chaggie isn't canon and believe me I now kinda understand the position of you guys, it must be so frustrating.
And people still made art about it even with that realization, did we just forget that — it never stopped anyone from shipping the dynamic anyway. The problem now is that it's considered a pro-ship. Which is mad as hell and I want to raise some debate in that, should it even be considered one? Is it weird now? I'm a Chaggie shipper through and through but seeing my fellow Hazbin Enjoyers who are Charlastor shippers get hate for it isn't in my bingo card, and is certainly what I didn't want to happen for them, especially when the hate for the ship was apparently so long ago and now people have a "valid reason" or so they call to hate the ship.
I'm not believing any rumor circulation that Vivzie wanted to bomb the ship though. These antis are insane for clowning you guys for it and I feel so fucking angry on your behalf all because of this drama, there's so much hatred over a fictional ship that people need to go outside and touch some fucking grass. They're like verbalase 50k but at least verbalase apologized, they didn't. They kept going, and this back and forth is making me want to quit being a fan of this, but the lore is good enough for me to stay.
I hear people wanting it to be dead and never have I ever wanted to spite ship something all because of them, like if they're seriously this dedicated to hating on some ship, let's see how much hours they spend harassing people who like the ship, wasting their life arguing. I wish they'd just block them instead of engaging, it's fanning the flames even more. This is some extreme pathetic actions for the antis in question, it's not even a shocker people are avoiding Hazbin Hotel just to not get involved in the drama.
Anyway, please don't hate on any ship just to get back at them please, Charlastor shippers, know you're better than them in that regard, coming from a Chaggie shipper. You're doing great, the ship in terms of canon never sailed, but for you guys, that's okay, now let's address where the hate comes from which I mentioned earlier, a "pro-ship", now is it? I'm not particularly fond of incest(It's icky), and I'm a little torn on who to believe, sometimes I wish Vivzie would come and address this although I can't hope for it to happen. Like please educate me on this. I want to hear all of the sides.
This reminds me of the hate of radiodust but to a more extreme scale. Like I want to hold all the non-canon ships and hug you guys to death, you don't deserve the hate. You guys can ignore canon all you want and do the cherry picking of the parts you like, that's the least of efforts I can give to you, maybe when I'm better at drawing, I'll be able to give you crumbs. If they start harassing fanartists who made old art about it, like 2018-2023 ship art, I WILL THROW HANDS.
Rant finished, I don't expect you to read it, it's kinda sloppy and unplanned.
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darkmasterofcupcakes · 3 months
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I have a "what if" question regarding your Vaggie being a Guitarspear baby AU, mainly because I'm curious on how you would handle it.
I've seen a couple theories (mostly before the last two episodes) that Adam and/or Lute become fallen angels due to their willing participation in the Extermination. If Lute were to fall, how would Vaggie react/handle it? I'd imagine Lute would try to avoid the Hotel because Vaggie is there even if it's a lot safer there than the rest of the Pride Ring full of demons who would likely hate her due to being one of the leading forces of the Exorcists.
Lute would absolutely avoid the Hotel in that scenario, mainly because she doesn't want to be surrounded by people who would absolutely despise her and probably kill her multiple times over if they had the chance, but she also wouldn't want to face her daughter in my AU. Even if you assume that she (and Adam) would eventually see the error of their ways and want to redeem themselves, Lute still wouldn't want to face Vaggie. Because it would be impossible to look at her daughter and not be reminded of the horrible things Lute herself had done to her - her wings may have grown back, but her eye is gone forever and that's forever going to be a reminded to Lute that she horribly maimed her own child, for nothing more than, really, showing mercy to a child.
As for how Vaggie herself would react...she'd have a lot of extremely mixed feelings, especially towards her mother, since her feelings about Lute in general have been extremely complicated for years. A small part of her, part she likely keeps mostly buried, wants to hope for the best, that her mother "falling" like she had would allow her to become a better person and while they'll never be back to how they were before, maybe they could somewhat rekindle the relationship they had before Vaggie "fell". But Vaggie isn't usually one to allow herself to be hopeful, so she mostly just sometimes allows herself to wonder what her mother is getting up to.
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flower-boi16 · 1 month
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Honestly watching the first four episodes, Charlie to me kinda sucks. Like I feel like she barely trying to make the hotel a success and the show just gives her a pat on the back most of the time? Which I get if that’s the point but Charlie doesn’t feel like she even trying most of the time.
I don't hate Charlie as a character that much, but I also don't really love her either...which is how feel about almost EVERY character in this show. Like she's likable and endearing enough but also kinda underdeveloped...? We never really get to see her mentality of "everyone can be redeemed" get challenged at all and whenever it is challenged the person opposing Charlie is shown as in the wrong by default.
I talked about this before but it would've been super interesting to see Charlie's optimism and mentality be challenged in a way, where she learns that sometimes, some people can't be redeemed but others can, the world isn't purely black-and-white, people are not purely black and white, but we never see that. So as such Charlie never really learns anything or develops that much as a character, she kinda just stays the same from episode 1 to episode 8.
Charlie's conflict with her father could've been interesting if it wasn't the sixth instance of daddy issues across Hellaverse (seriously what is it with Viv and this trope and why does she use it so much-). The only real development Charlie gets as a character is in episodes 5 and 7, 5 with her conflict with her father and 7 with her getting over the shock of learning Vaggie's an angel.
While both of these conflicts are done decently well IMO, they aren't exactly enough to give Charlie full level of depth and her conflict with her dad is kinda just "fine" to me. Like, it's not bad but not that compelling either, I've seen more interesting conflicts between parents than this. So outside of two episodes, Charlie doesn't even feel like that fleshed as a character, she's likable and endearing sure but she's not that interesting. The episodes that do develop her only really give a small tinge of depth that doesn't even succeed in making her that interesting.
And this isn't even getting into things like episode 4 where she KNOWS THAT ONE OF HER FRIENDS IS BEING ABUSED and chooses to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT IT. Like even after Angel tells Charlie it's ok and she stops crying after being upset Charlie STILL doesn't do anything about that. And even if we assume that Charlie didn't entirely know that Angel was being abused...Husk knows. Why tf doesn't he tell her????
So, while I don't think Charlie is necessarily a bad character, as a protagonist she isn't that compelling. Again the show does give her a little bit of depth but again I don't think it's enough.
I feel about Charlie the exact same way I feel about pretty much everything in this show; I don't hate her, there are some things I like about her, but she still leaves a lot to be desired. While Charlie's likeable and endearing enough that you can root for her she fails to be an interesting character to me. She's really just an average protagonist in an average to mediocre show.
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luckycloverforducks · 1 month
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Tell me more about velvette and baggies relationship in the swap au
I wanna see all the different and toxicity in it, and how charlie would react to it and all that
*Not sure eif I sent a similar ask to this or not- if I did sorry)
FUCK YES I FINALLY CAN YAP
And dw you did not my ask box is. Empty
Their relationship is vaguely similar to I think, Mammon and Fizz?? Somewhat, I mean I've never watched Helluva but I've seen people talk about it, Vaggie feels indebted to Velvette for getting her to where she is right now yk with being a popular star, and Velvette is. Interesting
Velvette often switches back and forth between treating Vaggie like a bestie and just another demon working under her, and previously before Charlie came into the picture, sometimes like a girlfriend, which leaves Vaggie constantly confused
Velvette often overworks Vaggie to hell and back, but honestly she kinda? means well? A teensy bit, she doesn't want Vaggie to fall from popularity if she leaves the public eye for too long, and Vaggie does like performing/singing and the praise she often gets from it (even if she gets overwhelmed sometimes) so in a way she's trying to help her maintain the fame and praise that Vaggie often seemed to preen over, so in a fucked up way, in her eyes, she's trying to keep her happy and to keep up everything they both have worked hard for (Vaggie's career). She's also like, really into Vaggie but she gave up on that pursuit a bit ago, doesn't stop her from being petty and toxic about it tho
Vaggie is tired and confused, to say the least. She doesn't really know what Velvette actually thinks of her, if she values her in any way, or even care at all about her. Velvette tends to demean and sometimes verbally abuse Vaggie but the next day she tends to sort of make up for it, like she feels bad. In the early days, they were much closer, and Vaggie genuinely liked Velvette, and maybe had a little crush on her.
When Vaggie does good, Velvette showers her with praise, affection, and affirmation but is she slips up, she gets cold and mean, even a little shouty at times, and "honestly are you trying to embarrass me at this point?!" And Vaggie just stands there confused, ashamed, and a little pissed. Does she even see her as anything other than another asset for her brand? She can't tell. Sometimes it feels like she does, sometimes it doesn't. Vaggie is just so confused.
Velvette pushes her so much because she knows she can do better, but she constantly fails to take account Vaggie's limits, boundaries, and feelings, especially since Vaggie tends to mask her true feelings alot, keeping them all inside until they burst under the smallest addition of pressure, which makes her lash out at Velvette when Velvette didn't really deserve it at the moment, which makes Velvette think she's being unfair.
Vaggie feels that Vel is capable of being a better person, she just doesn't see that she's not one already, or that she needs to (or maybe she's just not worth it in her eyes?)
But neither hate the other, not really. Vaggie would like to, but she can't quite get there, while Velvette wouldn't even dream of genuinely hating Vaggie.
It's complicated, they're both fond of each other but also have a certain animosity between each other, esp Vaggie (rightfully so)
They are honestly both flaming messes, Velvette being the worst one of the two and also a part of the reason why Vaggie is a flaming mess aswell-
In short :Vel is a bad boss and a conflicting 'friend', and Vaggie is struggling through it
And Abt what Charlie thinks? She sincerely hopes Velvette explodes, she would do it herself but Vaggie still has an attachment to her (which Charlie sincerely hopes she'd lose, Vel isn't good for her, or much of anyone) so for now she just lets her be, but they always argue w/ each other (Vaggie just sigh tiredly in the background)
Hope this satisfies you, I have alot of thoughts Abt them :3
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You know, thinking of the AU Crossover chaos
I'm just thinking about how much Radio Guard!Al and Canon!Al just straight up hate the other, but for different reasons. Maybe Canon!Al hates how much this version of him has so much power and he barely uses it, if at all (whats the point of being so powerful if you just use one percent of it). While for Radio Guard!Al, its lowkey for a number of reasons. He sees Canon!Al as immature, heartless, power hungry and more, everything, as an Alastor, would take down. Does his canon counterpart seriously NOT remember the many overlords they killed who were power hungry monsters, willing to hurt everyone and everything to get stay the top dog? Or is that just his universe thing only?
And I think that is the subject of a lot of their fights, be it passive aggressive insults to straight up borderline murder attempts. And they never hide it either. Sometimes Radio Guard!Al will straight up say, full front, not hiding it threats and everyone else has to awkwardly laugh because they know he means them and canon!Alastor HATES the fact Radio Guard!Al COULD actually go through on them and he would be scrapping by to stop him. That is, if he didn't hold back or his Charlie allowed him too. Which Canon!Al probably throws that around a lot, how his Radio Guard self is just a leashed dog. Which cues more argument.
And the scernio i picture in my head, to just solidify HOW different they are, is when they get a fight in the kitchen, probably in Radio Guard's World (idk maybe everyone AU hops for the hell of it //shrugs). It's the kitchen in Radio Guard AU Hotel, and Canon and Radio Guard are arguing, hurling insults are each and more. Things are being said, hurtful or not. And just keeps getting worse and worse. To the point Radio Guard does actually threaten Alastor, reminding him, he only promised to not hurt Canon!Alastor's Vox, he never said anything about Canon!Alastor before pulling away to go back to preparing food. And Canon!Alastor has to take a second to recope before hurling insults and more, snapping at the hand who holds the most power in the room. And I think Radio Guard!Al would just seal the deal by simply saying "You know who you remind me of? Father" and he just smirks as the life drains from his counterpart's eyes and the smile begins to falter (since I like to imagine that Alastor's dad was uh le scum. You know, power hungry, worst of the worst and more). And probably list how they are similar, their father and canon!Al, how they push people away, always have to be the one controlling everything or they throw a hissy fit and will do ANYTHING to have that control, even hurting others, and saying along the lines of "Like Father, Like Son, huh?"
And of course, by this point, Radio guard Al, probably cuts his head open, and curses, flinching back from the blade and Canon tries to make a snarky remark, his mind still reeling, but than Radio Guard!Angel pushes by and sees his Alastor hurt and rushes over. he gets onto him while Radio Guard!Al laughs it off, saying he still needs to cook dinner tonight. And instead of being pushed away, Radio Guard!Angel get pushes his counterpart back to sit in a chair while he goes to start cooking, saying Al needs to rest his hand. And than Radio Guard!Husk comes in, more clean cut, he sees his Al bleeding, his Angel cooking and sighs, grabbing the first aid kit from the top of the stove to patch up his Al before going to help cook. Than comes his counterpart's Nifty, than his Sir Pent (because we'll throw him in too) than his Vaggie, than his Charlie and hell even his Lucifer and he sits in silent pain that, this version of him, is so very close to the hotel staff. And he just sits in silence as he watches them bond and laugh, and how they feel like a family, a community and he can't stomach it. Even when everyone, and i mean everyone, goes to eat outside since its a lovely night. And even when Canon!Al THINKS he has an upper hand against his counterpart with Vox, he catches them slowly repairing their relationship. He sees how every version of him is happy. Expect him. Their smiles and geuine, their laugh is true and it hurts so much he has to excuse himself and just, run. Run away from it all.
omg this is longer than i wanted, this was just rambles aaaaaaaaa -⚔️ anon
When RadioGuard said canon reminds him of their father that physically hurt me too that was a deep cut
Your rambles make my day every time I love them
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lifmera · 2 months
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Hello,darling!!
First off,How are you,I hope you are well!
I just came across your blog and IT'S SO CUTE?? The pink???? It was like a magnet,i couldn't resist leaving an ask!
Anyways! Could I pretty please have a Hazbin hotel matchup?
My name is Nina (I also go by Weewoo),I'm a Bisexual demi-girl (she/they) with a slight male preference!
Personality wise,I'm rather childish- Energetic,and I try to be fun- I try to be kind to everyone,I love making friends! I guess i could add that I'm an ENFP? (If you wanna use that!)
For likes,I like bright and pastel colors (If I dress in black and white,something is wrong-),plushies,drawing,writing,people (that I know or that I feel a good vibe with),noise (as long as it's not overwhelming).
I love all types of music,too! I can't dance n'or sing well,but i enjoy those. Who cares if you don't know how to do things well? As long as you enjoy it,you can learn!
I guess I could add that I like lazy days. As long as I have people with me,staying at home is a yes. (Though I'm not against going outside sometimes.)
I hate being in silence and alone :( but I also hate crowds,because there's so many people I don't know it makes me feel alone,you know? Also being an outcast in an event,or a discussion,I wanna participate!!
My love languages are quality time and physical touch. I want to give quality time so that I get physical touch,you see the link?
Anyways,Anyways!!
I hope that's not too much info! I do talk a lot ^^''
I hope you enjoy writing this,and that you have an awesome day! Don't forget to drink and take breaks!
Stay proud!
-Nina <33
AWWW HELLO!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH CUTIE PIE 🩷🩷
AND YOU ARE SUCH A SWEETHEART!!
Honestly… i couldn’t choose in between her or Emily…
But i think i’ve got it!
I’ve decided to pair you with…. CHARLIE!
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- from the first moment she met you, she LOVED YOU!!
- she herself doesnt dress in much other than red, but she LOVES pastel colors!!!
-Charlie would LOVE to hangout with you!! She’d think you are super fun!!
-She’d love you and beg you to become part of her staff, she thinks that NOBODY could ever dislike you
-even though you may not sing or dance well.. (according to you!! Maybe you can) SHE’D LOVEEE to do it anyways!
-Charlie feels the same way!! She hates silence, and will include you in EVERYTHING. even if you dont want to!
-Charlie would want you to write her stories, and she’d love if your ead them outloud! Just like the story about her
-I see your correlation!! Charlie would always spend time with you! And if you ever asked her to hold your hand or so more PDA she’d 1000% go running out of her way to do it.
-Charlie also loves that you dress in non depressing colors! She’d always compliment what outfit you wore that specific day!
-Charlie would enjoy any music, and she’d love to listen to anything with you as long as its a way of spending time with you. 🩷
-Lazy days are a huge plus to charlie! Especially if she’s been having a bad day :(. Like the one ep where find finds out about vaggie! She’d love to cuddle and just stay in bed and watch movies!
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THAT WAS ENOUGH INFO LOVE!! I love it when people talk cus i do too 🩷
I hope this was enough!
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phoenixlionme · 2 months
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Vaggie Defense Post
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Okay. I need to get this off my mind. I've been seeing alot of anti-Vaggie (sometimes crossing with anti Chaggie posts) about how she's a "bad/evil" person for lying to Charlie, that Alastor or Adam are better than her because they didn't lie. And I'm just floored at the blatant mischaracterization of her. And I need to set the record straight by making reminding these certain fans of a few things they are deliberately not acknowledging
EVERYONE at the Hotel are FLAWED, including both Charlie and (especially) Alastor. None of the m are without fault and all of them (sans Charlie for now) have a body count. Plus, Alastor was a serial killer in life and even in Hell and he makes no qualms about enjoying his kills; and while we haven't seen how Vaggie felt as an Exorcist prior to her fall, in the present she is deeply ashamed of her past and is looking for redemption.
I understand people find Alastor appealing and that's great but make no mistake: ALASTOR IS NOT A GOOD PERSON. While Alastor has kept his promises to Charlie and the Hotel crew, he is also blatantly clear that he's only there to see them fail. He ONLY gave Charlie vital info against the Exorcists when it was convenient for him; if he was truly a good person from the start (as many of his fans seem to think he is), he would've given the info freely. And as side note, he also would've put more effort into remaking the Hotel but didn't because he doesn't care. He's an abusive soul owner to Husk. He only referred to Charlie as his daughter to get under Lucifer's skin. And his lyrics in "Ready For This" shows he wants to guide aka manipulate Charlie to harness her power so he can use it for himself. In short, Alastor is an entertaining character but's he's a selfish, prideful, manipulative, and sometimes pettily cruel person with his true goals still not known.
In contrast to Alastor, Vaggie has been with Charlie since the beginning, before they got traction. Yes, she hid her origins and that was a fuck up (something Vaggie acknowledges) but she still genuinely and openly supported Charlie not only out of love but also to redeem herself. She sang part of a whole song about how she wants to be her partner and protect her; not of some end goal but simply because she loves her girlfriend. While she's not perfect, she's also protective and honest with the Hotel occupants and gave them a choice to leave the Hotel in "Hello Rosie", understanding that none of them asked to be in a war. Vaggie may be flawed but she's a caring, loyal, protective person who would fight for those she loves with no pretense.
Going to the people (or, in my case just the one commenter on YouTube) who think Adam of all people is better than Vaggie as a person? No. Entertaining character? Sure. But he's a violent, arrogant sociopath who tried to blackmail Vaggie into compliance and lied at various points during the trial; so he's not as honest as some fans claim. Vaggie, in contrast, lied about her past but other than that, has been truthful about her feelings and goal from the start.
Honestly, I think some of the Vaggie hate comes from some (not ALL) of the Charlastor shippers. I don't like, I love Chaggie but ship who you want. But don't character assassinate, it's not cool. You can like a fanship without being nasty to a canon ship, which flaws or not, isn't unhealthy or bad.
While I do agree to an extent that Vaggie needed her own special moment to shine, I think it may have been out of the crew's control; just speculating but given how Hollywood is doing only 8 to 12 episodes to save money, I wouldn't put it past them. But maybe with the global success of the show, Vaggie may get more screentime. Her VA even hinted at to some extent by mentioning how Vaggie's bow would be symbolic for her character's journey.
For people who are anti-Chaggie - Fine, ship who you want, it's not the end of the world. But for god sake, could you please put your anti-chaggie posts in the anti-chaggie section and NOT the chaggie section? It's just good manners.
In summary, like who you like and ship who you like to ship. But don't character assassinate someone to do it.
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alexmercer2424 · 2 years
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Sorry to bother you, but, Can I request some hh headcanon for a dream demon reader, who subsists entirely on condiments, who will just pop into people's dreams unannounced, ask a question, and if the person is having a nightmare, they will resolve it before repeating their question. ("Hey Char-Char, do ya know where the mustard packets are in the awake world?")
HH Dream Demon HCs
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Alastor absolutely hates this side of you
Hates his privacy being intruded and tho they’re not direct threats he has definitely threatened you
But seeing as your both demons and can’t exactly die at the hands of each other you don’t really care
Also Charlie likes you so that’s a big plus on your side and protection wise
So you’ll continue bugging the deer man until one of you dies again
And no matter how curious you are you never stay when he has a dream of his once alive self
With his mother at home, the two of them together
It feels too personal and too weird to connect with Alastor, this ruthless all killing demon
So you’re fine staying just to get on his nerves just to pop out and continue on
Husk hardly notices
Tho he does seem to have a higher tolerance to alcohol than some, that doesn’t mean he still isn’t affected by it
They mostly affect his sleep, as in if he dreams he doesn’t remember it most the time
You can use this to your advantage, but he’s not the guy to have secrets so who cares and if he does have any you’re not really interested
He’s also no used to you because he’s better at remembering where he hid extra liquor from Charlie than where any sort of sauce is
Niffty loves having you around when she sleeps!
Doesn’t mind if it’s you dropping buy to ask her where she’s stored the sauce as she’s likely rearranged seven times this week
But even if you go in just asking for that you usually stay a little longer just to chat, she likes your company and she’s much more likely than some others here
She’s got some weird dreams tho, and you assume they’re with how she died
Lot of sewing, lot of stalking
Depending on how far in the dream she is it can unsettle you
It’s even weirded when she asks for your help
You don’t visit Angel’s dreams too often
Or rather you don’t visit his nightmares
He’s always sad, always crying and even when he’s not an in the lights and performing it always turns sour
You’ve tried to help a couple times but once he realizes it’s you he gets all mad and defensive and demands you leave
Sometimes you pretend to, not comfortable leaving him alone when he’s struggling so much on the inside
Sometimes you can hear him crying to himself, or the nightmare resuming resulting in yelling and objects thrown
And even if he was arguing with you it’s better than suffering by himself
But you also don’t want to invade
It’s not the same twisted dreams Alastor has that’s practically the same as he is in the awake world
It’s much deeper than that, much more painful
Vaggie doesn’t know how to feel about you in her dreams, but she hasn’t outwardly expressed displeasure in it
Rather just asks what you’re doing and why you’re there
If you’re asking for something she’ll tell you where it is, or if you just want to chat she’ll entertain you
Sometimes she’s more personal than the others, expressing her concerns about the hotel and Charlie
How she has nightmares of the fall of the hotel and not being enough
And you try to reassure her but only she can really ease her own stress, only she can solve her inner turmoil
But you do make it easier for her
Charlie is by far the most fun to visit
She’s always entertaining and having fun when you visit
At least when she expects you or you catch up with her to announce your presence
Finds it weird you like sauce so much, but doesn’t question it, just makes sure to stock up on it for you
She may even ask you about the whole ordeal with that since she wants to get to know you
Or may even ask about your life on earth before you came to hell
But sometimes when you don’t announce your presence right away or she doesn’t sense you, you get caught up in her nightmares, her worries
She worries about the hotel failing, worries how her father and mother will perceive her if she fails, wonders how the citizens of hell will perceive her
They already think she’s a laughingstock, this would do nothing but prove them right
And though she never openly expressed these concerns to you, as she never wants to make you gloom
You make sure she knows you can come to her if she has any problems or just wants to get something off her chest
But that’s yet to happen…
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gachagon · 3 months
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I watched the last two episodes of Hazbin Hotel and they were pretty alright, I enjoyed them. Obviously the pacing is awful though because we only had 8 episodes to really get to the end, but for what its worth I think they managed to do their best in telling their story.
I can't really blame anyone but the ones who greenlit the show in the first place for that episode number though, lord knows indie animation is thankful enough to get 1 season these days. I hope in season 2 the animation gets better because it is very rough here. Even in that fight/dance sequence with Vaggie and the overlord lady, you can really tell they were being held back a lot and had to just make do with whatever budget they'd been given.
My earlier gripes about how the show handles addiction, sexual assault, and abuse still stand. I think how it portrays those things is tacky, and the show doesn't get a pass just because it was "brave" enough to just outwardly show those things "without holding back". I also don't think the show being 18+ and being set in hell gives it an excuse to just treat these sensitive subjects however it feels. I really hope the fanbase learns to just accept criticism of the show in the future because it's been really annoying having people call you horrible names just because you have valid opinions about a cartoon.
I still think Alastor "being black" is an after thought that came to the creator after people rightfully pointed out how that character doesn't fit at all with the culture she's appropriating, or how he clearly has motifs and themes from a different religion all together (I mean he's quite literally a "deer demon", able to change his form, eating rotten flesh on his downtime, it's giving "white ladies version of a wendigo" very much and not "Creole man from Louisiana who practices "Voodoo Hoodoo" whatever the fuck that means) The creator of the show has some good ideas, but really needs to learn to just be quiet at times instead of opening her mouth to say more dumb shit.
I think the sex jokes and vulgarity were not toned down even near the end, i really think they need better comedy writers on their staff team. It's unbearable to hear the same "haha sex joke" for the millionth time over the course of 8 episodes. Get different jokes at least please, sex can only be "hilarious" for so long. I find the comedy is at its strongest when its relying more on the over all personalities of the cast than who they're sleeping with or how many "parts" they have or what they do in bed etc.
The music is good, it's hit or miss sometimes but i definitely like a lot of the songs and the cast is really talented so they're carrying it. Is it "broadway" material? Absolutely not. But its good for what it is.
All in all, i didn't entirely hate it I guess? I liked it near the end, I hated those first 4 episodes and if they're gonna continue on with the same problems season 1 has, I really don't see this show going on for very long (especially not when the one in charge of it all plugs her ears to anyone criticizing it) I will tune in for season 2 because the ending has me a little intrigued, the show does shine when it's focused on the plot and not when it wants to fumble complicated themes and messages. I do want to see how they'll end this or where they'll take it etc.
So yeah that was Hazbin Hotel. It could use some work, like a lot of it. Meh.
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mari-roleplay · 28 days
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Hazbin Hotel
Here's the list of characters that I feel the most comfortable writing. Includes a short list of a few headcanons I have about them
--- Alastor ---
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While he absolutely dislikes modern technology, he isn't that much against the modern culture. I think, he would really enjoy some electro swing.
I headcanon him to be more on demiromantic spectrum. I still think he would be asexual. But not as much as sex repulsed, as... he just can't really picture himself doing such an activity.
Had sadistic dentencies since he was a child, but tried to control them when he was young. But as we all know, when he grew up he certainly gave in
I've seen a theory that since demons can't kill one another without using the holy weapons, so what about the all the Overlords he made disappear all the years ago? They're these bendycore demons that he summons sometimes. That is such a messed up idea, I love it
---Husk---
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This man is in his 60s or 70s. He is a grandpa. I like to think that he actually was a grandfather when he was alive, and that's kinda why he's so good with kids
He was around when there was a forced conscription in America. I'm unsure whether he actuall would've faught in war, but he did went through military training. He hated every bit of it
When he was an Overlord many games in his casino were rigged. He himself would often cheat. However when he was playing against another Overlord? Then it had to be fair, he knew better than to play with fire
---Vaggie---
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I like to think that in Heaven there are some areas that are more affected by cultural influence of human souls. Like, some have definitely more japaneese culture, some are more slavic. You know, as people we like to stick together, and I think it would partially stay in Heaven
That being said, I think Vaggie found the area where the Spanish culture was dominating very interesting and comforting. And at some poimt she started to identify with human souls from there. That's why she often speaks in Spanish, and has such love for latino music, or their cooking, their writing or even the language itself
She has many good memories of heaven. While she is sceptic whether Heaven would change their mind, she knows that it is in fact a good place. It is a place where people deserve to go, if they were good
When she really needs to lash out, she usually goes to the war zones (the ones where she took the cast in episode 2 I think?). She however leaves rather quickly due to guilt and regret over her past actions
---Emily---
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She's a bit over 100 years old, which for among angels, she is one of the youngest
She's been on Earth twice. Once she was taken by one of the other Seraphims because they wanted to show her the various basilicas and cathedras that humanity has built. The other time she was taken by Adam to a concert, because a band she liked had a tour, and Adam was like "Hell yeah, let's go."
She knows that souls in Hell are there for a reason. But she doesn't like the exterminations because she doesn't see the point of it. Sinners in Hell are already suffering for their sins, why make it worse? Why enforce the endless panic that goes on for a year and then in culminates during an extermination? Why do something so cruel to people who are already paying for crimes?
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missblissy · 3 years
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Human Alastor x reader playing Bowling? (Idk i just like that type of date hhaha) Maybe just them or maybe with friends
((>W>.............................. js I hate bowling. But I love you nonny, so for you..... I made this. ENJOY!! Sorry for the wait *cries*))
How goes bowling these days? Is that even still a thing? And why would anyone want to go bowling other than to drink? But no one drinks have the time... people just go for the pin and balls. Maybe it had to do with long and round phallic objects and balls rolling around. Regardless, your friends had dragged you to go bowling for whatever reason. And you decided to drag Alastor along because if you had to suffer, so did your boyfriend. It was also a bonus that he got along with your friends as well... some of them at least.
It was Charlie's idea mostly. She was someone who always wanted to go out and try new things. It was something she lived by apparently because this week's new activity was bowling at one of those dark neon allies with an arcade built-in. Charlie managed to talk her girlfriend, Vaggie, into coming too. Angel came because he also assumed there would be drinks but found out there wasn't a damn bar inside. You honestly had no idea how or why Husk was even there because he was completely and entirely miserable. If you had to guess it had something to do with you forcing Alastor to come.
Anyways, you and your little group of friends had found themselves staring down an alley with those silly little shoes on. Angel wouldn't wear his though, he wouldn't let their piss shade of yellow clash with his outfit.
You were sitting in plastic chairs next to Angel as you watched Charlie and Alastor go up next. You had two lanes so they went together. Angel sat next to you, he grabbed an arm behind you on the back of your chair and leaned in, "Five bucks says Allie gets the gutter," He whispered loud enough for Alastor to hear. You giggled as you saw your boyfriend's brow twitch and ignore the comment.
There was a second there that you were tempted to say something back to Angel but you were interrupted by the loud clash and computer saying "Strike!" You looked up and saw that Charlie was still holding her bowling ball. But walking away with a smirk on his face, Alastor's smug pride gleamed off him. The shock on everyone's face only made him boast to himself even more. When did Alastor find the time to get good at bowling.
As he sat down next to you, he threw Angel's arm away from you and replaced it with his own, though he was sure to wrap his fingers around your shoulder and bring you closer to him. He never liked Angel, and he was always so overly protective when it came to you anyways, so it wasn't welcomed that the boy was so close to you. Even if he was a guy. Competition is competition, it doesn't matter who they are, Alastor didn't like sharing you. Period.
"How... Did you do that?" You asked him.
Alastor shrugged and watched as Charlie threw her bowling ball right into the gutter, "I'm perfect at everything I do, dear." That was supposed to be satire.
Angel rolled his eyes and with a huff, he crossed his arms, "You can't fuck." He deadpanned.
Instincts kicked in and you ducked seconds before Alastor nearly climbed over you and punched Angel in the face. He missed and got him in the shoulder instead.
"Leave Alastor and his fuckless life alone," Husk said as he got up from his seat, "Some people are just better than the rest of us sexual deviants," He took his turn bowling soon after saying that. Vaggie went next as well. She choose to keep her mouth shut on all this.
But even Charlie had something to say, "Come on guys," She awkwardly waved her hands, trying to calm everyone down, "If you're going to fight take it outside this time. I don't want to get kicked out of another place of business..."
"He won't fight me, he'd know I'd deck him in the head and give 'em a one-two combo real quick like last time." Angel reminded everyone, and you all collectively remembered Angel clocked Alastor in the face at a bar after a heated argument. Alastor went out like a light and broke his nose on the way down. You looked at him and saw the little kink in his nose from that night.
You sighed and reached down into your pocket and pulled out your wallet. You grabbed a random twenty and handed it to Angel, "I'll give you this and two cigs if you go outside for ten minutes."
Angel gave you a snotty look, somewhat offended that you'd even offer such a thing. But he knitted his brows, snatched your twenty-dollar bill, and stole two cigarettes from the pack you left laying next to you on your seat, "I'm gonna find a bar on this fucking street- I'll be back later, losers."
You could still feel the rage simmer off Alastor even after Angel left. Though you didn't have time to say anything to him. It was your turn to go up. And now that Angel was gone, you didn't want to go up there and make a fool of yourself alone... Half your plan was to have Angel bowl next to you so that no one would notice how bad you were.
"Um-" You said as everyone waited for you to go, "I'd...uh... Um. I don't know hooow-" You were cut off as Alastor quickly got up and pulled you up with him.
He dragged you to the lane and got a bowling ball for you, "Hold this," He said. You noticed his anger from before had all but melted away. Alastor gave you a charming smile and stood beside you, "Copy me. Like when we dance."
You blinked at him a few times then did was he said. He held his hand up, pretending he had a ball. You copied him and did the same. He brought his hands to his chest, stepped forward, swung his arm back then forward again. You smiled at him and did the same, but you actually threw a ball. It rumbled down the lane and crashed into a couple pins. At least you didn't get the gutter.
"See? That easy," Alastor smiled at you. He place a hand on your arm and pressed a kiss on your cheek. He grabbed your hand in his and asked, "Do you want to see if they have any vending machines in the arcade? We can get some snacks?" Which was code for do you want to sneak away for a second?
"Sure," You quickly agreed while locking your fingers with his. The two of you scurried off with him. The second you were out of eyesight and safe behind a wall, Alastor gave you a more proper kiss.
He pulled away and asked, "Why did we come again?"
You shrugged, "Charlie asked." You simply said.
Alastor let out a huff then started walking with you towards the vending machines, "You can't really say no to someone like her..."
As you pulled out a few loose coins from your pocket and slipped them into the machine you laughed, "No, you can't." You both dearly loved your friendship with Charlie... But she could be a bit bossy sometimes.
The two of you collected an arm full of snacks and started walking back together, "Well, I say when we get home, we have a proper date."
You laughed and even lost a few snacks. You picked them up quickly and said, "You mean you cook us dinner and we watch a movie? That's not a proper date either, ya know."
Alastor smirked at you then nudged his arm into yours with a grin, "It is too because it'll be just us. Alone."
You rolled your eyes but still chuckled to yourself, "Alright, alright," You said, "What do you want to watch?"
He shrugged, "Don't care. I just want to make fried rice tonight."
You let out a huff of a laugh and passed out a snack to each of your friends while Alastor gave them a drink of some kind, "Fine. But I'm picking a TV show then because I just started watching something on Netflix."
"Aw, are you guys leaving?" Charlie asked with way too much sadness on her face.
"No, no-" You waved a hand slightly, "Alastor just doesn't think this is a proper date, so he has to make one up at home."
"What do you mean this isn't a proper date?" Vaggie threw a hand in the air, "All of us brought our partners! I mean- Angel left... So Husk is more like a third wheel at this point. This definitely counts as a group date or whatever."
"Call me old-fashioned, but you don't bring your friends on a date and there is no such thing as a group date," Alastor said as he cracked open a can of cola.
"What about a double date?" Husk asked from his seat while he tore open a bag of chips.
"This isn't a double date and even then those aren't real dates either. You're supposed to be somewhere nice, havea nice meal, share a few drinks. Share some stories and laughs with the one person you're interested in courting, then call it a night, done!" Alastor smiled to himself while everyone else collectively sighed. He was old-fashioned. (But you liked that about him.)
"This isn't 1955, Al. You can go on a date anywhere. Like here. What about going to the zoo? Could that be a date?" Vaggie asked.
Alastor thought about it, tapped a finger to his chin then gleefully said, "Nope! That's an outing!" Several people groaned but no one went on to feed into his banter.
You did hear Husk grumble under his breath "You need to go out to go on a date," But Alastor must have not heard it or choose to not say anything.
The rest of your night there wasn't that bad either. Angel did end up coming back, but not without his arms full of booze bottles of all kinds. They didn't serve drinks here but at least Angel was wise enough to buy some solo cups too. No one was really paying attention to the bowling anymore either. (You lost, not that you cared or anything.... You did.) Instead, you and your friends had gathered around in the arcade, drinking, laughing, playing games, and picking on each other harmlessly. You enjoyed every second of it, much to your surprise. Alastor did as well, though... He still insisted on his proper date once you got home.
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