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2sw · 1 year
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Just because I'm tired, doesn't mean the monsters are gonna stop, you know? It doesn't mean anything.
#samweek2023 day 3 Neurodivergent Sam | Mental Health | Trauma
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DEAN WINCHESTER IN EVERY EPISODE ↳ 5.19 - Hammer of the Gods
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nobodymitskigabriel · 4 months
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What makes Gabriel's s13 death so fucked up compared to his s5 death is that in s5 Lucifer just killed an entire room of his friends but Gabriel loves him enough to want to reach out and grab his bloody wrist before he "dies" and Lucifer loves Gabriel enough to hold onto him and then cry over his "corpse" but in s13 Gabriel dies slumped against the shoulder of a version of Michael who doesn't care about him at all and actively laughs about his death.
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LOOK at this and tell me you don't feel like throwing up.
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archangelsammy · 1 year
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gabriel & lucifer / spn 5.19 hammer of the gods / conor oberst, lenders in the temple
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420technoblazeit · 11 months
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hammer of the gods is so funny because when i used to rewatch it i'd be like :( poor gabe he finally stood up to his brother and lucifer murdered him for it :( he just wanted them to be a family again :(((
but now it's like. come back you stupid bitch i know you're not dead. the apocalypse is literally about to start can you stop faking your death for five fucking seconds gabe. god.
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5x19 Hammer of Gods
I haven't watched this episode, I never will.
I knew about it, but I first time I read the plot and transcript when I was ploting Cauldron of Ink Verse. I logged out that day, and I was just so angry,
There are two Hindu gods in this episode, lord Ganesha and goddess Kali and lord krishna is mentioned.
I am religious, my faith may not drive me, but it keeps me afloat when things get bad.
Kali Mata is an avatar of goddess Parvati. She is firece, she is symbol of woman power and anger. When Maa Parvati went on a rampage as Kali Mata, no one knew how to stop her, God's were scared of stepping in her way, until until lord Shiva took form of a child and appealed to Maa Parvati.
The way she is presented in that episode fills me with rage and disgust, and I know it's a Me problem and I know that the makers of SPN don't share my faith but I can't just ignore that. I already ignore a LOT of problems I have with show, especially the way women are treated. This just too personal, it hurts
People in India would have killed makers and writers of that episode with bare hands. And this is not an exaggeration
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mlobsters · 10 months
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so i started this episode and when the flowers started coming back to life i thought to myself, if i'm gonna watch some sad timeywimey shit then i'm gonna just go all in and rewatch arrival. and if i'm gonna rewatch arrival, i'm gonna rewatch interstellar. so that's what i did instead. here's attempt #2
sidenote david reed did the story, he was also a writer on the magicians
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supernatural s5e19 hammer of the gods (st. david reed, teleplay andrew dabb, daniel loflin)
starting strong. she's so good, great voice
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DEAN How you doing?
WOMAN No.
DEAN But--
WOMAN No.
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yellowjackets s1 - rekha sharma as jessica roberts
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funny little trick of lighting and certain colors, can't say i pay much attention to what they're wearing unless it's an outlier like that white floralish printed button down and the like sam wore in early seasons especially, but thought, i don't recall seeing dean in a brown jacket before
but in this cooler kitchen lighting, it looks green. there was a tiktok going around a few years ago about someone who bought a ... hat? that looked green or brown depending on the lighting. reminds me of that
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i appreciate the point of like hey. judeo-christian apocalypse, what about all these other religions that have to deal with the bullshit fallout. BUT like, is big g god who abandoned them in the same hierarchy as these gods? because if not, then hmm. i may not have enough firing brain cells for this thought process, and definitely a general lack of understanding of religion
um random ghostfacers pseudo-but-kinda-not promo? okay.
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ps the angel blades to me always looks like super cheap plastic fake chrome things. i try not to laugh every time i see one.
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sam's reaction *chef's kiss* padalecki is hitting the spot for me lately with his wtf faces
DEAN I'm outta options. Now on any other given day, I'd be doing my damndest to, uh, kill you. You filthy murdering chimps. But, uh, hey, desperate times. So even though I'd love nothing better than to slit your throats, you dicks, I'm gonna help you. I'm going to help you ice the devil. 
not loving the makeup they went for on decaying vessel lucifer. also do not understand the internal logic of why lucifer can just snuff out a god. little snicker snack twist of the wrist but archangels and their ilk need a special blade otherwise?
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makeup looking much better in this mood lighting with some blood spatter. very menacing, to boot
this pestilence bit with the goo is unending. please, we get it. 😩
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okay. laughing at myself because i'm just realizing i thought matt frewer was murdock in the original a-team, but no. that was a different dude. dwight schultz. i can't figure out what i originally knew him from, maybe doctor doctor, maybe the stand? something 80s/90s.
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altered carbon s1e6 man with my face - matt frewer as carnage
kind of a nod to max headroom there seems like. which, i'm not sure if i ever saw any of the max headroom shows? i just associated the character with coke ads.
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the stand (1994) matt frewer as trashcan man
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dwight schultz not matt frewer in the a-team
well. i wasn't really expecting that change of heart with gabriel, and swift execution. i like the actor and the character but while i picked up the mushy emotions they were putting down, i also hold a grudge against him for torturing sam for approaching a year with the mystery spot. wish maybe they'd worked on that arc a little longer.
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spookyblazecoffee · 7 months
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5x19 Hammer of the Gods... I have a few things to say.
!!Supernatural season 5 episode 19 spoilers!!
1. Kali!
That's it, just Kali.
2. Gabriel, the love of my life! I love this little dork so fucking much!!
3. What are the Ghostfacers doing in this episode?!? (I have not finished the episode yet, and I haven't seen it in a while bc of Gabriel "dying" in it.) [Why tf did they replace Corbin? The lil bitches.]
But anyway, back to Gabriel!!
He's just HFHSDGDHFBDHBBXJSHDHFHDHD. Know what I mean?
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sophieseals · 2 years
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I’m watching spn season five ep hammer of the gods, and Sam has just picked up a plate of the most plain vegetables I’ve ever seen in MY LIFE. I know it’s a tv show but Christ would it kill them to have fake seasoning.
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tobitenkit · 2 months
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point of no return and hammer of the gods being back to back is a special kind of treat for people who who are obsessed with the third brother little guys (me)
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driverpicksthepodcast · 10 months
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Episode 101: Hammer of the Gods
This week the girls are switching it up with a disclaimer before getting immediately sidetracked by Beth admitting she was wrong about something, an iconic album by Smash Mouth, and lounge bars in New Zealand. Eyeballs (the universal sign of “this is not tomato soup”) make an appearance, Jamie puts her Percy Jackson knowledge to good use, and the girls explore Sam’s relationship with food, fashion, and autonomy. BBC Sherlock and the TARDIS are relevant in a way not even Jamie could have predicted, and in true Supernatural fashion the Yikes are Big with this one.
Find Driver Picks The Podcast here!
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leftylesbian · 2 years
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thoughts on spn 5x19:
“how you doing?” “no” lmao
sam is rightfully concerned.
the eyeballs in the pot lmao
“bite me” “maybe later big boy”
ghostfacers???
kali has a real point here lol. the christians are incredibly annoying
no way gabriel is actually dead, that dude is irritatingly difficult to pin down
what the fuck is this stupid casa erotica shit
love fetch quest that gabriel laid out
eugh pestilence
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nobodymitskigabriel · 4 months
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5x19:
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Hm.
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archangelsammy · 1 year
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sam winchester & gabriel / supernatural 2.15 tall tales, 5.19 hammer of the gods / olivia rodrigo, favourite crime
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5.19 - HAMMER OF THE GODS
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woundlingus · 2 months
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Gabriel moments that make me ragingly feral (2)
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We get like the tiniest little hit of vulnerability from Gabriel after he’s just been done sitting in the car being yelled at by Dean about family and duty and love, and sure he’s Dean Winchester but you know Gabriel looks at them and sees his brothers, so you could imagine it a little more like Michael snapping at Gabriel that he’s hiding instead of fighting for the family and the people he loves.
Lucifer is coming, he is going to kill everyone you care about whether it’s now or if Gabriel chooses to sack up and do something about it.
There’s something special to me about the relationship between Dean and Gabriel because he addresses the elephant in the room almost immediately. They’re the same, in a great many ways, and that does give Dean the edge to play the moral superiority card here because at this point Dean isn’t talking out of his ass at Gabriel about “doing the right thing” he instead meets him where he is. Family. Your family is inside that building, and they’re going to die.
It is scary, and we’re left on a very despondent scene of Gabriel sitting alone in silence. I’d argue it’s a top contender for saddest Gabriel scenes ever, beat out only by him crying when Lucifer stabs him- but that’s a disgenuine scene in hindsight whereas this scene in the car is all genuine where for the first time we actually get to see Gabriel without an audience. Dean turns his back to leave, and Gabriel reaches out for him. Too coward to say anything the moment passes and he’s forced to sit in silence without the mask on and confront what’s actually happening for the first time.
Maybe he really can’t save Michael and Lucifer. But he can save “Michael” and “Lucifer” (and I don’t mean Sam 👀). He’s not as helpless as he’s let himself believe, actually, he can do a lot just not the one thing he wants most so he previously decided he won’t do anything at all then. Here, he’s forced to confront that, and change something even if it’s profoundly terrifying because of what Gabriel does stand for is love to the detriment of his character then he can also decide to make a change for the exact same motives.
But for a moment, he’s not Loki he’s Gabriel, and the man in front of him flickers between being some asshole mortal and the holy visage of his brother, and he doesn’t want him to go.
Surprise, it’s also (3)
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Why am I doing two in one? Well they’re part of the same episode and I think it’s a fun little draw together of the two scenes! Because we’ve already had “Michael” turning up for Gabriel in the car scene with Dean where he’s chided and given a more tough love approach to the situation at hand, and here we have Kali just before that scene with Dean.
To refresh your memory, here in this scene Kali is telling Gabriel that if anyone gets the end the world it’s her personally. Now I don’t know enough about her religion to get into that, but I am going to play into the narrative within Supernatural and it’s Kind Of Problematic but because that’s what the show does, I’m gonna point it out. The show centers around Christianity, obviously. Who else is a world ender? Lucifer.
We have Gabriel and “Lucifer” here. Sweet love, there’s an almost childlike way Gabriel has handled the situation with Kali where he loves her and he believes that she loves him and that’s enough to make a difference here and she won’t hurt him because in a simple world it would! Except she’s not that kind of person, and neither is Lucifer, but Gabriel still doesn’t get that- or doesn’t want to believe in it. Gabriel’s being sweetened, doted on with affection that’s rather patronising. He’s being talked down to here, and he still watches her adoringly. In the end, he’s stabbed with every intention of delivering a killing blow, love is not a factor in this equation because Gabriel is not on Kali’s side.
Gabriel is not on Lucifer’s side, and he can believe in loving his brothers all he likes and in the end it isn’t going to save him. Lucifer is going to strike him with every intention of killing him dead.
Uncoincidentally, Gabriel wriggles his way out of both situations in exactly the same manner. So when RSJ talks about that phone call immediately post hammer of the gods to tell him he’s not dead, this was it! He’s already shown us how he’s going to do it!
Conclusion?
Though I’m not implying any of this on a shipping level, personally for me it’s too shallow of an interpretation to take on such a complex and deep rooted issue on loss, grief and abandonment, you can have fun with this in whatever ways you see fit if you wanna give that guy psychosexual intimacy issues. I personally see it more as Gabriel being unable to grieve, I would argue he’s not even consciously aware of the choices he’s making here because that guy really wants to believe he hates his brothers. But it’s that bitter hatred that keeps him from seeing the truth of his reality, and it keeps him from grieving, keeps him chasing that same dynamic and playing it again the exact same way subconsciously to cling to the deep loss he’s suffered and refuses to acknowledge- to the extent of erasing his own entire selfhood in the hopes of erasing his family along with him. It’s that same naïveté from my last post that’s got him playing out ANOTHER scenario over and over again hoping that if he does just love enough maybe it’ll be different. It’s not. It never will be. He can’t face that.
I don’t think it’s an accident that the people Gabriel draws in the most in his personal life are reflections of the family he misses deeply, and Sam is not a true reflection of Lucifer in any sort of capacity outside of birthright so I simply don’t factor him in here. A guy can claim he’s a runaway and wants nothing to do with his scumbag older brothers, but from where I sit it looks like he misses them an awful lot more than he’d be willing to admit to himself. Here is also where I conclude any Michael=Dean parallels in regards to Gabriel because I don’t think late seasons Dean when we see him again with Gabriel is even remotely the same man and his quest with Gabriel is solely of a selfish nature, there’s nothing Michael or brotherly about him to draw on in those conversations whereas everything Dean says to Gabriel, however cruel, do reflect the larger plot and Gabriel’s internal struggles and ultimate helps him define and better himself under that guidance. But it was cute while it lasted <3
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