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lixxen ยท 8 months
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Danny Phantom Headcanons/World Building (Masterpost)
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So I rewatched Danny Phantom within the last week (of the time of creating this) and forgot how much I love it. I'm falling back down the rabbit hole and have started to collect my own HC/world building. This is just a collection of me putting ideas together that my brain was rattling off while watching and a few wiki deep dives. This will probably change as I get more into things and read more fanon. But like. This isn't canon stuff at all and is meant more as a base of operations for any fics I'm gonna write for AO3/drabbles for Tumblr.
Content warnings: mentioned of childhood trauma, minor graphic descriptions, talk about death
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I was into DP as a kid but was never into the fanbase and online spaces. So some of this is from me as a kid/teenager interpreting the show on my own. And sorry if it contradicts canon or is similar to what other people have said before. Genuinely most of this is from me as a kid or just me rewatching the show. I've noticed some of the things I already was thinking about in fics or in a few posts I've seen floating around.
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Danny specific
Danny did die in The Accident, but was practically zapped back to life at the same time due to the Ghost Zone choosing him. It rewrote his DNA, so he was still a functioning human but with Ghost DNA. Unlike Vlad, whose DNA was just rewritten since he was hit with a pure blast of eco-energy. So think of it as like dying in the hospital but automatically being resuscitated but the resuscitation alters your DNA.
Danny doesn't need to sleep or eat a lot of human food often if he doesn't exhaust his human form. Human functions only apply to his human half, so if he stays in his Ghost half then he will not get tired or hungry in that form. But when he transforms back, he will feel it and need to eat or sleep off what he's done as a human.
He needs to consume/absorb ectoplasm just as much as he needs to eat food. It is more of a balance in his system between Ghost and human. So he will eat ectoplasm (normally while in ghost form but he will do it in his human form since it doesn't matter which form, unlike human food).
Danny's Haunt is Amity Park (see Ghost Haunts)
He is the Ghost Zone's core, as he was chosen by the Ghost Zone (see Ghost Cores).
His own core is an ice core.
Jazz and Danny are very close from a young age since their parents are more or less absent. She raises Danny practically, and once he gets into high school and The Accident happens he drifts because of the secret. This is why Jazz throws herself into psychology.
Danny gained Jazz's music taste over the years from exposure, so he likes different genres and doesn't really have a favorite. Jazz recently has an emo phase before The Accident, so he currently enjoys rock, alt rock, and general alt music ATM. He likes pop because that's the genre his peers are into (like Ember). He's never really had a big opinion about music, so he just listens to what is around him
Out of some of the alt rock bands, he listens to what's popular. Jazz showed him Fall Out Boy and Set It Off first to ease him into it, and he likes them.
Danny's ghostly tied item is a small rocket ship toy his parents bought him (see Ghostly tied items. Also called Ghost objects)
Danny is a trans man, but in Reality Trip he may have changed this. I might expand on this, but as a trans person I automatically saw the opportunity and after that we see him without a shirt so I made jokes about how he changed himself to be cis.
I also see him as bisexual, female preference. But he doesn't really think it's important to label his sexuality and has only really had three crushes and he's 14 when he realizes it because he gets a crush on a random guy for two seconds then moves on. He's 14 he doesn't need to have it figured out, y'know? I didn't when I was his age so it doesn't actually matter to him. He just knows he's fruity
Danny has nightmares. Bad nightmares. Nightmares of being dissected by his parents, Amity Park mobbing him for a witch hunt, his friends dying, of Dan (TUE evil Danny will be referred to as Dan) coming back. Stuff like that.
Danny is touch starved from an absent parent childhood. Don't get him wrong, they were there and showed him love and they're so proud of him. But they weren't... there. Y'know? They would give him hugs here and there but he doesn't have positive physical contact memories. So whenever his friends hug him he loves it. When they hold hands he loves it.
Danny and Tucker are close. In the way that when they were younger they'd take naps next to each other. They're platonic and people thought they were dating in middle school before Sam joined them. Sam wasn't always goth and was more opened up in middle school. But 8th grade hit and she saw Jazz go into her emo phase and she found goth and that scene understood how she felt inside (insert Sam's trauma from being in a picture perfect family and the pressure coupled up with her parents controlling her every move. And she just doesn't like pink and light colored stuff y'know). Sam also enjoys the contact, but only from her friends and mom. She loves her mom. I got off topic, but she would never actually use the photo against them. Besides, she partook in the sleep pile and still does. They just never talk about it.
He's called Daniel (aka full named) by Vlad and Lancer because it's them genuinely respecting his identity. Lancer did it to reinforce the name. The town is actually very pro-trans and accepted Danny with ease. But some people still messed up, y'know. So Lancer does his best (he cares deeply about his students)
Talking about Lancer; he noticed Danny's changes in behavior. After Danny spent a few days in the hospital for The Accident, Danny changed. He is constantly worried for Danny.
Dash and the popular kids also noticed and let up for a bit and did feel bad for him. On days he's visibly not feeling good, they don't bully him. They're not heartless. Just bullies.
The class knows he was in an ecto based accident, so they think that's why he's a bit weird and the ghosts are attracted to him. Even if others don't believe it, they just go along with it for the sake of Danny
Danny is also the Ghost King. After defeating Pariah Dark, the recrowning process starts and months later he ends up being King. Clockwork hints that this was planned from before he was born since he knows how time will go. Clockwork had made sure he got to this point.
Danny begrudgingly became king and is actually quite happy with it. The ghosts treat him slightly better and they've come to a mutual understanding with Danny.
Danny really likes space and he has a collection of space books and rocket ship models. He's been to Cape Canaveral multiple times with his family and he used to spend nights on his roof with Jazz looking at constellations. That's why when they went to camp that Sam made them watch the stars. She knew that he wanted to be an astronaut and admired the stars
Danny's ghostly obsession is protection (see Ghostly obsessions). Since he is half ghost, he isn't always having to obey his ghostly obsession. But he doesn't have a say in it. Some days he is strongly attached to it, when something triggers it or it's just one of those days. Then sometimes he has almost no connection to it. It's why sometimes he would rather not deal with everything and wants to give up his powers (or doesn't care) then turns around and is over protective. But in the end, it's protection because his subconscious recognizes he should have been protected from the accident and that no one looked after him to stop it.
Danny also never gets sick. If something's up, it's ghost related.
Being Ghost King means that he is one of the most powerful ghosts. He just is too young and inexperienced to understand and be able to use his power. We already know Dan was the most powerful, so its possible.
Have I mentioned that he is begrudgingly King, so whenever he is interrupted in his daily life for King duties, he is openly annoyed.
The ghosts fetching him will overshadow his classmates to talk to him, or Sam and Tucker, since he made it clear his human life cannot cross paths. They respect their king so after the first time of him enforcing it they just stuck to overshadowing.
Danny is 100% repelled by blood blossoms as a ghost and is only allergic as human. He will sneeze if he smells them, get rashes and hives if he touches them. If he ingests small amounts he will just get sick and poisoned, throat will swell slightly and tongue goes numb. He may have bad stomach problems. But if he eats a lot it can possibly send him into anaphylactic shock. (I have more on blood blossoms later)
Danny does have gnarly scarring on his chest and back from the Accident. It disappears into his skin as a ghost, since ghosts seem to not show injuries or death related scars on them. But as a human they're raised; some parts pink and some white. They spiderweb across his chest and back, blossoming out of his right (our left) side. He has some on the back of his neck and there's a few underneath his hair (which is thick enough to cover). There's a few scarring on his arms and hands, but they're small enough to not be noticed.
His eyes used to be fully blue, like an icey lighter blue with dark blue edges, but around the edges are little spikes of green that you can't see unless you're close and looking into them. Dash noticed it one day when he pushed Danny against a wall and commented on it. Danny called him a weirdo for looking into his eyes enough to notice.
He will get phantom pains randomly in his chest. They're from his organs being damaged from the Accident and his core sits near where his heart is when he's a ghost, so if his core is hurt then his heart aches. Vice versa.
Danny's death was horrible and every once in a while he gets flashes of it. His ghost and human half will try to fully take over and he will have the feeling shoot through him and he kinda jolts. His eyes will change slightly, just a moment of flickering.
Danny always has a pull or need to go into the Ghost Zone. It's like his DNA is calling to go home and absorb the natural energy. It is also because he is the core of the Ghost Zone (will be explained later)
I feel like Danny would have trust issues and PTSD. He'd hate sudden loud noises and sudden blinding light. It will shake him to the core because of the accident. He doesn't like thunder and lightning (the type that lights up the room and is really close and blinding. Not the distant little line in the sky ones)
I feel like he would also not have a good sense of self identity. He would feel alienated from humans AND ghosts because of how Ghosts don't treat him like normal, and how humans just aren't the same anymore and the ones who know treat him differently. Even if the ones who don't know, he just can't fully relate anymore. He also can't be close to the only two (technically) who can relate since Dani isn't around and he doesn't trust Vlad. Makes him uneasy and feel like shit constantly. (Also the fact that he doesn't feel like a guy fully and can't relate to girls anymore but has the lingering connection. Y'know, trans stuff).
Human world
A lot of this is set Post-S2 and Pre-Phanton Planet and most of S3, so Vlad is mayor but no one besides Sam, Tucker, and Jazz know for (canon) humans. Thought I'd give a timeline.
The town LOVES Phantom. After a year or two of him openly saving people, they treat him differently. The Fentons still don't like him but barely tolerate him. They'll try to capture him still and want to dissect him.
The town as a whole think the Fentons are crackjobs that shouldn't have the funding they do, but if they're managing ghost levels with Phantom then they're okay to stay. They also acknowledge that as destructive as the two parents are, they do actually help and know what they're doing
There's different types of ghost hunters in the world; theology based and science based. It depends what region you're from and your roots.
There are people like the Fentons, Men in White, and the various others we see who are science based and somewhat understand very basic ghost biology and rules because they studied it and went to school for it (or have scientist families).
Then there's theology based hunters (who would best be compared to the Winchesters in SPN) who come from lines of old school hunters. The theology hunters are just as valid because their system works (salt and iron work, holy water depends on the type). But the scientific world laughs at them because they're seen as archaic and outdated.
Blood blossoms were bred centuries ago by the original theology hunters. The legend states that a hunter received seeds from their god and was told to burry it in salt and iron inside of a graveyard. The flowers grew into blood red flowers and kept ghosts away. They were bred with a few other flowers to have them in different regions. There are no cases of allergies or being harmful to humans, even for ones that were centuries ago crossbred with flowers that are known to not be good for consumption. They seem to always be edible to humans and are grown in churches and graveyards specifically. They taste like rose and sweet, according to people who have access to them.
The town didn't believe in ghosts at first, but did halfway through S1.
Wes exists in this. I know enough about Wes to say that he just happens to be a ginger look alike to Danny and they were friends in middle school. His parents told him to stop being friends with Danny, especially post-accident. He is one of the first to realize Danny is Phantom and isn't fixed in Reality Trip since Danny thinks it's HILARIOUS. And nobody believes Wes.
Word travels quickly in this small town, like normal. So there's a giant gossip mill; being anywhere near the popular kids will give you a chance to hear just about anything and you can get about anything in there if you talk loud about. Tucker and Sam use this to their advantage sometimes. So do other students. It's great
The town loves Vlad, but think he's weird as hell. They can tell he beefs with Danny but doesn't know why.
Talking bout Vlad, his ghostly obsession is being loved. That's why he is so obsessed with Maddie Fenton. When he found out Danny was half ghost like him, he was added to the need for love. He wants Danny to love him like a father just as much as Maddie to love him as a husband. But as Maddie rejects him, he starts to shift his focus more on Danny becoming his son. He acknowledges that Danny will never want to be his kid, so that's why he creates the clones. He's a really lonely dude and his obsession is what basically corrupted him and turned him evil, from being unchecked and never balanced. If he was regulated like Danny, he would be just like Danny and less effected by it.
For the clones, Dani was actually the perfect clone because she was the only female clone. Vlad just didn't like that and so he wanted to have a perfect male one to be respectful to Danny. But he realized it later on and that's why he wanted Dani to come back and stabilize her after he lost the Perfect Clone.
The other clones weren't perfect, which led to them being barely sentient. They were ghost alive. But... they were practically hive minded.
Anyways, Dani is just out in the world stabilized now. She came back and got Dani to use his cool King powers to fix her. She still met Valerie and D-Stabalized events kinda happened but not at that time and exact. So Valerie knows about Dani and likes her. Y'know? You do.
Valerie figures out Vlad isn't a great dude, but she's gonna use his resources and just go along with his shit and kinda comes to an agreement with Vlad. Vlad does slightly care about her through proxy because of Danny.
Vlad doesn't personally care about people in Danny's life, but goddamn is he gonna by proxy care because he wants Danny to be happy. Vlad also does care about Jazz. Just not as much sadly.
Jazz is liked by the popular kids by the way. She's a bit weird, she's a Fenton. But they think she's very pretty and Jazz helps them pass classes. So who cares if she's related to the loser kid? She's older and cool in their eyes.
Jazz knows this. She's very smart. But she takes any friendship she can get.
I think I genuinely need to talk about Jack and Maddie for a second. They're not bad parents... they're just... they're not good parents. They genuinely love their kids. Jazz and Danny are the highlights of their life and they'd do anything to protect them. They just get carried away and are just too focused on their work so they became very absent and just not good parents. They never meant to be like this and they just never realized how badly it has gone. They don't realize the implications of growing up around aggressive environments are. They're not aggressive to the children, but seeing parents be aggressive in that degree to the point of making weapons will do something to kids. Even if the kids are just annoyed at this point. Jazz recognizes this and that's why she spent so much time trying to support Danny in the way she never got.
Also, the world does view Amity Park as one of the most haunted places. But they think it's more gimmick like. And since they don't have any hotels or Airbnb, no one really visits. The town made sure to not let hotels build in their town for this reason. The only thing you'll get is an Inn fifteen miles outside town limits. People do visit for ghosts. But it's not like people do for Salem or Point Pleasant.
His class over time realizes Danny is actually important to the ghosts because of small occurrences. But they don't know who he is. Eventually, they will find out one by one and be relatively chill about it in front of Danny. Only in front of Danny. Behind his back they're like oh my god he's phantom, king of ghosts. Guys what the fuc-
Ghost Zone/Ghosts
To start it off, there are different levels of ghosts. There's a hierarchy based off of power and respect. The more powerful you are, the higher you are and respected. There can be higher ghosts who aren't powerful due to respect.
There's the regular ones that we see, the Ancient ones that are canon, then there's the ghoul looking ones that are just generic and their obsession/items are fairly simple so they aren't too out there and can be controlled by others, then blob ones that are barely sentient. The blobs are usually animal souls that don't end up like Wulf or the other animal ones we've had episodes around.
Ghosts are created by extreme emotion and are fueled by human emotion and ectoplasm. Either they died with a ton of emotion or someone had too much emotion surrounding their death (that's why blobs tend to be pets that died. Or ghoul like ones had enough people shocked and upset over their death).
Their bodies run off of ectoplasm and ecto energy, which holds them together and fuels them. It allows them to conjure themselves and exist because the Ghost Zone gives it to them.
They are drawn to people who have been exposed to major ecto energy (which would be why they're drawn to Amity Park. So much exposure everywhere. So much) or heavy emotions. Which is why a lot of them feed off of them too
Ghost Cores are the metaphorical hearts and souls of ghosts. It hold their emotion and energy together. It fuels them and keeps them pulled together. If you get rid of the core/destroy it, the Ghost is completely gone. It cannot move on. It cannot reform. It's deader than dead. If you harm the core simply, they can barely keep form. They kinda become goopy and become extremely tangible. It causes their being to not keep.
There are different types of cores, as such in canon. You can have mixed cores or normal cores. Depends on your powers and your color is based off of your alignment and core.
Ghostly obsessions is what raw emotion effected the ghost. They could have had this obsession all their life, like Box Ghost loving boxes, or having to surround their death, like Danny's being protection. They are compelled by their obsession. They must follow it and are obsessed. They can be normal sometimes, but it's only when their obsession is not being challenged. That is your very being because it fuels your core with that very emotion and can give you powers.
Your ghostly tied item/ghost item is what you are tied to in the real world and you are tethered to. If it is destroyed, you are forced to move on. It isn't like the core, as that is the heart/soul. This is more like a leash that allows them to be connected to the human world and not just the Ghost Zone. Some ghosts don't know what it is or where it is. But Johnny 13 has his bike, Pandora's is her box. Danny's is a rocket replica because his parents gave it to him and he protects it. But some of them simply don't know where it is and don't care. Some have things that were buried with them or clothing they loved. They're still around because someone just hasn't destroyed or found it yet.
A blob's ghost item could be a collar or favorite toy if it was a pet. Things that are kept as memories.
A ghost haunt applies to a ghost that mainly resides in the human world, like Danny. They own that area and it is theirs. They usually do not have a lair in the Ghost Zone because they're the same thing, but on the human plane. But ghosts tend to get aggressive towards other ghosts who enter their haunt, so that's why Danny is a bit aggressive. Especially as he gets older and more in tune with being half ghost.
A ghost lair is simply just the ghost's claimed area in the Ghost Zone. Most have them and blobs and more ghoul looking ones will freely roam since they aren't powerful or "important"/high enough. They will tho, if they have a master to serve, stay with them. Laira are usually guarded and keep territorial ties to their owner, but not as strong as a haunt.
Ghosts with haunts will routinely go back into the Ghost Zone. This is for health, survival instincts, or for other reasons. Portals tend to appear more often in haunts because of this.
Ghosts need ectoplasm to survive. Simple. That's why they go in and out of the Ghost Zone a lot of they're in the human realm
The ecto weapons use ectoplasm and reverse engineers it to harm them. Reverse polarity and all. And the reason why salt/iron/holy water works on them is because it purifies and can control the energy. Plus, since they're based off of emotion, if enough people will it to work it will.
Blood blossoms effect them so well because of this. The salt and iron in the breeding mixed with the pure belief. And at some point someone started to soak the seeds in the reversed ectoplasm. But humans don't know that. They're just hardcore believers.
The Ghost zone is partially sentient. That's how it opens up portals and controls ectoplasmic levels. It is a realm made of ecto energy and ectoplasm in the end, so it makes sense. It was crated because human souls needed a limbo between reincarnation (hell/heaven doesn't actually exist in my version. Just a limbo and a few other realms that will be mentioned later). The Ghost Zone needs a core to keep it all together, and it tends to choose a ghost to be it's core. But it chooses very carefully and can move the core to a new ghost if it senses danger. Self preservation.
The Zone chose Danny because it knew it could trust Danny. Which is why Danny is destined to be inherently the most powerful. And the Ghost Zone can loosely be understood by the ancient ones, like Clockwork and Observers. And now Danny.
Every Ghost can speak Ghost Speak. It is an old language that Latin is based off of loosely. Humans cannot understand it. Some have loosely learned it and have trained to understand it. But it's very difficult since they don't have the right vocal chords. Or... have them. Ghosts don't actually have them.
Ghosts can switch freely between whatever human language they speak and then ghost. While speaking to other ghosts, especially in the Ghost zone, they speak in ghost speak. That's how they all understand each other and not have to learn a new human language. It's quite literally in their brain hardwired. It's the ectoplasm and ghost zone doing it. Plus the Ghost zone likes to slightly give mind them so it needs them to know it.
Death day is when they died. It's normally not that pleasant of a day because they can feel how they died throughout the day. Some relive it as a death echo if they're on the human plane, then some just have flashbacks. Some just relive the pain. Normally they like to be alone. But some will be with others. They are literally reliving their deaths because their energy is all jazzed and upset. It's a horrible reminder.
Death days are treated like sad birthdays. So it'll be a truce for that specific ghost and normally the others will give them things to make them feel better. Like... small gifts or words of encouragement. Or if they know their obsession, something to do with it.
Death echoes are not fun. There are a few ghosts who are always trapped in them and have to be released, those are normally weaker ghosts who don't have enough energy to move to the zone so they're trapped. But the stronger ones will leave an echo of energy at their death; which means that if they're on the human plane when death day comes they will reunite with the echo and be stuck in it until the time of death. They will not be themselves, but the fragment of the bit leading up to their death. A literal ghost of themselves being forced in a loop of their death. Think about yelling down a large tunnel and it echoes forever, except when you go back a year later you're forced to keep doing it until the original one is due at the same time.
The final echo will actually physically effect them as they're let go of the echo (for that year). The effects will disappear. (So for example, Danny for the whole day if he's in Amity Park will be stuck as a translucent almost non sentient, not knowing what's going on around him, replay of the Accident. Whoever is there will watch it happen again and again, but only him and not the others, until it comes time for his death and he comes out looking burn and electrocuted. Then it'll disappear and he'll be normal. No memory of the day besides the pain of the last one)
The Ghost zone can't really stop the echo unless they're inside the ghost zone. It contains them and protects them, so that's why they will leave their haunts or just go back for the day.
There is actual royalty, which is the Ghost King and and his court. The king can marry and have a queen. There can be ghost queen as rulers if a girl wings the crown. It just so happens the last two/three have been guys. Whoever rule's full title is king/queen ruler then their partner is king/queen consort. There can be two kings or two queens this way, and it's even gender wise. Yippee. Princes/princesses are children and do not actually hold any right to the thrown unless their ruler turns it over or they overthrow. It's a formality and political status out of respect. It barely happens.
The Ghost King is earned by right of conquest. So Danny challenging Pariah Dark and winning meant that he stripped Pariah of his crown and title. Everyone involved could lay claim if Danny does not take the crown and challenge Danny. And if someone does challenge Danny, then the ghosts will be able to access whether or not they actually do have the right or should be allowed.
Vlad actually challenged the right, but most of the ghosts knew Vlad was a bad option and vetoed him before Danny even knew what was going on. Vlad knew exactly what was happening and that's why he wanted to awaken him. He just... didn't plan out the events that unfolded.
But how normally the crowning works is that the crown would return to the Ghost Zone, and the Zone would present it to one of the Ancients. Whoever defeated the previous king will automatically receive title of Prince (which Danny didn't know but the others knew). The Ancient will then send out lesser ghosts or allies of the newly titled Prince to announce their new right. They will be brought to a coronation ceremony where they will accept or decline.
If they accept, they will be bound to the title and they will gain new powers literally and metaphorically. They will gain the King's Keep as a new lair. And they will be diplomatically/politically responsible for the new era
The King's court is mostly appointed with the exception of the higher ranking ghosts. They have a right to be on there.
The Ghost King is what people precieve as Satan/Lucifer/the Devil actually. But in the sake of continuity, they're just summoning the Ghost King by that name. Y'know. Only the religious folk call him by religious titles. Same dude.
This ties into the fact that the Ghost King and other ghosts can be summoned. Anything having to do with king/Satan/devil summonings the Ghost Zone will literally route to the Ghost King. Most "powerful ghost/demon" ones will more than likely be a powerful ghost, but the ghost zone will put the king in there also. If someone isn't specific in the summoning, they'll get someone with a related obsession to their goal or just a lower level generic ghost (probably a ghoul like one).
Which means Danny will be summoned from time to time. He can easily get back since it's a portal that can't be seen besides the summoned. Silly stuff tbh. People don't do it too much, but it's often enough to make him have a system for it.
Half Ghosts only have two natural cases and one unnatural. Dani isn't considered a true half ghost by the ghosts since she is a clone. They don't see her as anything other than a clone of Danny who is now her own person. They treat Danny and Vlad the same.
The term Halfa is the term for being half ghost, and most ghosts don't necessarily mean it in a mean way since it's just their slang term for half ghost. But some do use it in a mean way (the ones who don't like humans and hate the idea that two powerful ghosts are half human. Some ghosts are just dicks and use the term blob in the same way)
Since Danny doesn't talk about half ghosts to other ghosts a lot, he doesn't use the term. Sam and Tucker were confused when he first said it and looked a bit concerned. He explained what it means and they just nodded slowly. His friends personally don't like it, but just don't use it unless talking to ghosts.
A lot of the more powerful ghosts don't like it when the humans call them anything besides ghost or ectos, especially when they're called ghoulies. When they're called ghoulies they see it as being deemed the same as lower powered and they get offended.
Don't ask a ghost how they died. You don't need to ask exactly what their obsession is; if you can figure it out you can be like "oh this is it." But asking directly is a bit weird and rude. And don't ask them directly what their ghostly tied item is. Usually it's personal. C'mon guys. You wouldn't ask someone their deepest personal trauma. Why would you do that to them??
Also, it should be obvious that not all ghosts are evil. But a lot of them are just mean spirited or the emotions that made them aren't nice so they just... yeah. They can be good and nice people obviously. They just don't tend to be all the time
Also, Christmas truce came from three kings ago. Pariah Dark's full reign when he wasn't locked up caused a pause, but when he was locked up it continued.
Other
There's other realms, like the dream realm and the area outside of time that Clockwork lives in.
The Observers also live in the area outside of time, but do follow the main continuity of time. They do not care about the other continuities or timelines. The timelines exist but aren't the main one, so they don't really matter. Just branches that fizzle out after a bit. The Observers' job, along with Clockwork, is to protect the main one. Think kinda like TVA except like... you obey a realm and not some man playing god. And they don't just cut off the timelines. They just redirect the main one and let the others naturally fizzle out
There are Ghosts of __, like how we have the ghost of time and dreams. They're powerful and are important for the Infinite Realms to exist. Clockwork knows where to find them if needed, as he is one. Nocturn is kinda just an asshole and Clockwork keeps him in check. He knew Nocturn wouldn't win so he let the guy have his fun and then kinda reprimanded him on the side
Dan also exists outside of time now. Clockwork lets him outside the thermos sometimes and has put a blocker on his powers so he can't use them. Dan says it's inhumane and Clockwork hits him with a "maybe don't kill a ton of people and ruin the timeline. Ever thought of that?" (Obviously not exact words). It works. Dan is just glad to be out of that thermos.
Dan also really wants to meet Dani. Clockwork shows her story to him, and even though Dan doesn't have his human side he is interested in her and want to know more.
I just really want Dan to eventually get some humanity back and Clockwork is a manipulative ass, so he would use Dani as a tactic.
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running2reanimation ยท 9 months
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For the ask game:
๐ŸŒ™ ๐ŸŒž โŒ๏ธ
๐ŸŒ™: whatโ€™s something you wish youโ€™d see more of in canon?
I'm hoping that the show will address character!Alan's treatment of Victim and The Chosen One and The Dark Lord. I'd love to have him express how he's grown since those days. I'd love to have him apologize to them.
Also more King.
Also also the return of The Dark Lord.
โ˜€๏ธ: whatโ€™s something you wish youโ€™d see more of in fandom?
A greater tolerance and respect for people's headcanons (and ships). It's not too bad on Tumblr from what I've seen, but I know that it can get pretty nasty elsewhere online.
This is a series where a lot of it is up to interpretation. I love seeing the different viewpoints of fans! It gives me a chance to look at my own headcanons and re-evaluate them.
โŒ: whatโ€™s a squick you have?
A mild squick that's not ship-based is people who headcanon King as younger than me. That man is not under 35, I'm sorry.
This is said with love and affection for those that do, obviously. I don't think you're a bad person or weird for imagining King at whatever age you imagine him to be, it just makes me feel weird personally when he's significantly younger than I'm expecting. And it makes me feel OLD.
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ailendolin ยท 10 months
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List 5 favourite shows (in no particular order) and answer questions accordingly.
The Terror
Hornblower
BBC Ghosts
Yonderland
Black Sails
Who is your favourite character in 2?
Archie
Who is your least favourite character in 1?
Hickey. Seriously, screw the murder rat.
What's your favourite episode of 4?
Oh gods, all of them. Though I am ridiculously in love with the concept of a wizard literally losing his Mojo, so I'm going to with 1x02.
What is your favourite season of 5?
Series 2 because of Thomas Hamilton, my beloved.
What's your favourite relationship in 3?
All the relationships are great but I have a very soft spot for Julian and Mike's arc in series 3 and hope we'll get to see more of their friendship in series 5.
Who is your anti relationship in 2?
I don't know about anti-relationship but I don't really see the appeal of Bush/Hornblower.
How long have you watched 1?
Since the moment it came out. I can't resist a good Age of Sail show, and definitely not one that features Tobias Menzies.
How did you become interested in 3?
I saw a gif of the sunrise scene from series 3 here on tumblr and just knew I had to watch it. I had no idea who these characters were or what the show was about, only recognised Charlotte from Call The Midwife, but I was pretty sure that handsome poet would be my favourite character and that's exactly what happened.
Who is your favourite actor in 4?
Picking just one of the Six Idiots is hard but I'm going to go with Mat just because I think he's absolutely hilarious (and brilliant) when he plays old people and I love the way he talks as Choop.
Which show do you prefer 1, 2 or 5?
While they're all Age of Sail shows, they're completely different from each other and hard to compare. I love that The Terror is based on a real story and makes you fall in love with even the most minor characters (looking at you, Graham Gore). I love that Hornblower is all about the Royal Navy (because screw pirates, I love me some pretty officers) but it's main characters aren't typical heroes. And I love Black Sails because love is at the heart of its story. But if I had to pick one, I'd probably pick The Terror because a) it has fantastic actors, b) one very well-written season that makes it easy to binge and c) a historical context you can't help but want to know more about.
Which show have you seen more episodes of 1 or 3?
Ghosts has more episodes then The Terror on a whole and I've also rewatched it more often. I'm due for another The Terror rewatch, though.
If you could be anyone from 4, who would you be?
Well, I wouldn't mind being Debbie because having an elf and stick for buddies and being able to go through a portal to another world would rock. Not so keen on the Chosen One stuff though, so I'm going to pick Ho-Tan because who wouldn't want to be a scribe and write all day?
How would you kill off your favourite character in 5?
Well, since my favourite character did sort of get killed off and then unburied, the show already did this for me.
Would a 3/4 crossover work?
Oh it certainly would and I've actually written a fic about it - The Wisp.
Pair two characters in 1 that would make an unlikely, but strangely okay couple.
I feel like this would fit all The Terror ships because hey, repressed Navy men in the 19th century. My personal favourite one is Joplittle so I'm going with them. They barely interact with each other in canon which fits the unlikely part of the question but I think they'd be quite good for each other. Poor Ned certainly needs someone to hug him and tell him everything's going to be okay while I think Thomas would have needed Ned's support when Crozier was drying out.
Overall, which show has the better cast, 3 or 5?
The Black of Sails cast is amazing but nothing compares to the Six Idiots who have found each other on a kids' tv show and liked each other so much they started writing their own shows because not working with each other was simply not an option.
Thanks for tagging me @larryrickard!
I'll tag @ginevralinton @magicaltear and @iris-in-the-rain
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So, I decided to read Queen of Glass to try and soothe my Doraelin heart and I'm kinda not satisfied.
To start off, I read Throne of Glass in middle school but never got around to reading any of the other books. Later on, in highschool, I decided to go in the Tumblr tags to see what was going on with the ship specifically and I found out that she'd switched love interests (more than once). It was disappointing but not as disappointing as if I'd gotten the other books and kept reading with the hope that they'd end up together. And I know that you really shouldn't base your enjoyment of books just based on who the character ends up with (even if there's multiple love interests involved, which I don't like reading anyway) but I was attached and I'm not one to ship one character with multiple people, even though I can recognize another good pairing.
I knew about Queen of Glass and was always curious about reading it but I just never sought it out until today. I really don't remember what stirred up my feelings over the ship again but it started off with me once again looking through the tag on Tumblr and reading everyone's thoughts. People's perspectives are different so I'm curious about what happens in the first 3-4 books specifically since apparently those books are Queen of Glass split into different parts, with some obvious changes. It seems like people believe that she changed the course of the story in book 4 but with other things I've seen/read it seems like Doraelin died in book 2. Anyways, it was super late at night and I decided to skim through Queen of Glass (which may have contributed to my dissatisfaction). It was surprisingly emotional for me and I'll definitely go back and read it all but there was something major that made me emotional and a little unsatisfied: Chaol and Aelin.
I know that Chaol and Aelin are a thing, if only for a little while in the books. It pained me the first time to read that she gets with Dorians best friend and their relationship goes farther than theirs ever would. One time, I went to Barnes and Noble, got curious, opened Crown of Midnight up to a random page, read her and Chaol happily sneaking off together, and immediately closed the book. When I went into Queen of Glass, I knew something was going to happen between them but at first, it was just a one and done thing. She's struggling with her feelings toward Dorian and in an attempt to convince Chaol (and herself) that she was NOT in love with him, they end up sleeping together. Lust overtakes Chaol but he sees through her and they both agree that while they care for each other, they don't love each other and this was a way to release tension. Ultimately, this brings them together closer. Later on, things change a bit. After she leaves, becomes Aelin, and decides to make her return, Chaol has a vision of a possible future in which they're married and have a family. It reminded me a bit of Re:Zero. There's a line during his premonition that says, "There would have always been that regret, that knowledge that she had chosen for herself rather than her country" and besides the fact that "What If" stories like that tend to make me cry, one of the thoughts that immediately came to my head was that Chaol was her one true love and my feelings over Dorian and Aelin ending up together were dampened immediately. As I'm writing this I can see how Dorian and her would still be meant for each other, even with the inclusion of that scene (and another scene I'll talk about) but when I read that it just made me very sad. A phrase that went through my mind was "Maybe we just aren't meant to be". At the moment, I felt that she only had to be with Dorian for the greater good and not for her own personal happiness or what would be the best path for her. Later on, there's a scene where they're talking and she thinks "She looked at him then, her heart still struggling to maintain the illusion that it was whole and healthy, and knew that she could have loved him. She knew that she should have loved him from the start of it all, and that this whole time he had been right for her". Now tell me that ISN'T alluding toward some unfulfilled true love.
Maybe, I'm just an incredibly emotional person (and I'm on my period) but, I don't know, it really hit me deep. Maybe, it's just because I'm not equipped for these types of romance stories. I do think it's a thing about differentiating the characters feelings and what the author's trying to convey. Just because a character is experiencing certain emotions and has certain thoughts doesn't always mean that it's a reflection of the author's feelings. Sometimes, the author's just trying to tell a story. My perception of how things were between Chaol and Aelin in Crown of Midnight also plays a role in how I think about this. It really seems like she completely shifted the focus from Dorian x Aelin to Chaol x Aelin in the second book, although I could be wrong (like I said, I've only read the first book and have heard/read things about the other ones).
I don't really know what I'm trying to say with this, honestly. I think I'm just trying to get my feelings out and maybe seek some sort of comfort from people who are still in the community. Like I said, I'm a very emotional person and I think I've thrown myself off a bit. I'm seeking a bit of fulfillment, if you can understand, that could probably be fulfilled by reading the books but I just can't do it. It sounds a bit babyish but whatever. I think it'd be cool to hear other people's perspectives on it, especially from people who actually have knowledge on the subject I'm talking about.
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๐ŸŒ™ Hi, guys! Here's Hebi ๐ŸŒ™
๐ŸŒ™ Before starting a blog here on Tumblr I used to play a funny game, so I thought of creating an image about it and share it with all those people who are into Hypnosis Mic
๐ŸŒ™ This game probably already exists; if not, then here it is!
๐ŸŒ™ What to do? Well, share the image (tag me, pls) and let your followers pick a random word from that list I made and some characters (or a ship). Then try to write a story or scenarios based on that word your followers have chosen
๐ŸŒ™ IMPORTANT: Even if you've already understood, I'll tell you anyway: this is NOT an "official" post or something like that. It's only an image, a game, I've created just for fun. Hypmic doesn't belong to me (of course).
๐ŸŒ™ I'll partecipate too with my writing blog @hebimoonlightwrites and I'll be pretty happy to see people playing it too, since I've seen that Hypnosis Mic has a fandom of writers lol. So, if you want to, you can give me some words and characters too, so I can play too!
๐ŸŒ™ Hope you like the idea I've got! :D ๐ŸŒ™
๐ŸŒ™ Here's the pic:
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๐ŸŒ™ And yes.. I've chosen Chuohku's logo for the background since they're always responsible for every kind of things (even in ARB's events, if you know what I mean... Think about those bodies' swaps- oops.)
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Battle Ships Round 2 Results
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Click here for pie charts.
81 votes this time, which is fewer than before but I'm still happy you all participated <3 A lot of twitter polls are happening at the same time this weekend, so maybe that had some influence :D
"What is up with that messy table at the top?" you might ask. Well, I made it less messy manually!
That plus a discussion of results will be under cut
Favorite Ships Results
Here are ship results as a column table
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and a pie chart
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Click here for larger files
As expected, most participants (28 people or 34.1%) were Ryllum shippers with Viravos in the second place (12 people or 14.6%) and Ruthari in the third (9 people or 11%). What really surprised me was that only three people who chose Janaya as their favorite ship were present, since Janaya is a quite popular ship.
The joke ship mentioned is "Claudia/professional help". "Blank" are all the people who didn't write anything and "no preference" is everyone who were unable or didn't care to choose.
Discussion
Part 1: Favorite ships and the margin of error
I didn't ask for the favorite ship just for the fun of it (although, this kind of statistics is always fun!). I also wanted to check whether there's a relationship between someone's favorite ship and their vote.
Unfortunately, 81 votes is not nearly enough for statistically significant results (the margin of error is almost 11%), I still managed to make this nice little table on google spreadsheets.
Here's a fragment because the full thing is too wide to fit here so please click the link above. I will discuss each section in greater detail in the second part of the Discussion section.
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Note that I did not include favorite ships chosen by only one person in order to preserve the anonymity of those people. The results of two or more people are a lot harder to point back to specific individuals.
On the left there are the ships chosen as favorites and the colored columns show their voting patterns. As I mentioned before, the margin of error is 11% (which means that the accurate representation of each result would fluctuate between -11% and +11% from the result we got in this poll).
However, that was the margin of error for the entire sample of 81 people. If we take each favorite ship individually, the margin become significantly greater:
Rayllum - 28 people - 19%
Viravos - 12 people - 28%
Ruthari - 9 people - 33%
Janaya - 3 people - 57%
All the ships with 2 votes - 69%
All the ships with 1 vote - 98%
Honestly, that only makes Rayllum and Viravos results at least somewhat significant (and Ruthari for one question), and even that only applies for certain cases.
See tab number 2 (Adjusted for error) in my google spreadsheet. I marked the meaningful results in bold frame. Tab 3 discusses an example in detail.
With all that said, the point of this whole tournament is for the fandom to have fun so while I didn't get the statistics I was hoping for, I can still use the result in my discussion c:
Part 2: The results of the votes
This round was a lot less predictable than the first. Here are Stars' and my predictions - look how few we got right! (green - correct prediction, red - incorrect prediction. Btw, you can join us here c:)
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Let's go through each category, because they're all quite interesting this time.
NOTE: When I say "[SHIP NAME] shippers" or "[SHIP NAME] fans", I refer to the people who took part in this specific round and chose [SHIP NAME] as their favorite ship.
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I did not see it coming! I was sure Laidrin was going to win based on the amount of moonfam content I've seen on tumblr and twitter. However, while two thirds of Ruthari shippers and almost a third of Rayllum shippers voted for Laidrin, it seems the majority of participants prefer Harrai out of the two:
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Possible reason? We have seen more of Harrow and Sarai (albeit mostly through flashbacks) than Lain and Tiadrin. Rayllum shippers most likely voted based on which character of the ship they prefer, Viravos shippers, just like other Viren shippers, generally like Harrow, and Ruthari shippers are more likely to prefer their faves' best friends.
Note that even with the error of 11%, Harrai still wins.
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Clauderry continues to obliterated their opponents even as a ship that only appeared in one episode so far. The only shippers that consistently voted against Clauderry are Claaravos (Clauderry's rival ship) and Virayla (the shippers of which, in my personal anecdotal experience also ship Claaravos). Although what's interesting is that there were a couple of Rayllum and Viravos shippers who voted for both Clauderry and Claaravos!
Another interesting thing is that Rayllum and Viravos shippers seem to prefer Clauderry over Corpeli.
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The reason? I guess it's the fact that Claudia is one of the main characters and it's a canon ship. It's possible many fans simply like their dynamic (although it's not totally clear yet) or like Terry as a character. Corpeli, while mostly not hated by people, remains a rather niche ship when it comes to active shipping.
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Everyone predicted this outcome but what a beautiful battle it was! With only 2 people voting for neither and 1 person skipping the question entirely (a record low so far), this is a very significant confrontation between two large ships with active fanbases. People either love these two or hate them, with very few being utterly indifferent, and while Viravos is definitely hated by more than Rayllum (as two main antagonists vs two main protagonists), there is still overlap in these two parts of the fandom.
While I worked on my Shipping Poll results, I noticed that quite a few people who chose Rayllum as their favorite ship also shipped Viravos and vice versa. I sadly never finished analyzing the data from this perspective (I lost where I stopped and now would have to redo the whole thing from scratch) but I can still show you the unfinished results:
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At least 50 people who chose Rayllum as their favorite ship also ship Viravos. At least 26 people who chose Viravos as their favorite ship also ship Rayllum. The real number are higher, although these are results from 2020.
Ruthari and Janaya shippers voting for Rayllum makes sense as the big 3 often like each other (you can also see that in the image above). Claaravos voted against Viravos as their rival ship (as we'll see Viravos shipper do later). And, as usual for Viren ships, Virayla and Virrow voted for Viravos. Viren ships generally like other Viren ships. Probably the only "rival ship" group that barely has any infighting. Possibly because none of them are currently canon.
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Reason? Rayllum is not only the main canon ship, it also has the biggest fanbase. Most TDP viewers connected to Rayllum in different ways. Some like their dynamic as is, others like their potential. There are also many people who don't actively ship it but simply find it cute.
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Another very surprising result! An iconic battle as well, especially since there's a huge overlap between the shippers. This round also came out the same day TDPO published the Janaya short story, which is why this result baffles me even more. Maybe Janaya shippers are simply not interested in this tournament?
Here are excerpts from that same unfinished data analysis:
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Rayllum, Viravos, Clauderry and Virayla seem pretty balanced between the two. Gremaya voted against their rival ship. And Ruthari shippers only outnumber Janaya by 6 people. What's interesting is that one Janaya shipper refused to vote against their brother ship! I think this is very sweet.
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The reason: Honestly? Statistical error. It's possible my tournament didn't attract an even number of Janaya and Ruthari shippers. With an 11% error, Ruthari could've had 43% and Janaya - 45%. There's also a possibility that the slash vs femslash bias plays a role (slash is generally more popular than femslash) or that people prefer Ruthari's dynamic over Janaya's but I don't have anything to back this up.
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A predictable result since we've never even seen Avibeia interact onscreen.
Most shippers are either ambivalent about the two or prefer Virrow.
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Reason? Virrow has lots of interactions which are even more detailed in the books. Avibeia only have a kid and a end credits picture.
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Most shippers show a preference towards Anneha with the exception of Clauderry and Gremaya.
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Reason? Not only is Anneha a canon ship, I've never seen anyone ship the Queens with anyone else. Ezranya, on the other hand, strongly competes with Ezris (Ezran x Ellis). There are also people who don't like the idea of shipping characters who aren't even teens yet.
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Our first tie! It's hard to say if it's because people like them both or don't care either way. The yellow part might suggest the latter?
Rayllum and Janaya don't seem to care. It's especially evident with Rayllum votes. Viren ships and Clauderry lean towards Grazi while Ruthari, Claaravos and Gremaya - towards Sabos. Gremaya most likely vote against a rival ship.
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The reason? I don't really have one.
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This result was somewhat surprising, since Claaravos and Gremaya already faced each other in the semifinal of Rarepair Rumble and their results were very close!
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Note that the number of people who didn't vote for either (which is 4 people or 6% of the voters). This is a good example how various factors might influence a completely different outcome even for the same situation.
Rayllum clearly prefer Gremaya (even 1 Janaya shipper voted for Gremaya). Viravos seem to have voted mostly against Claaravos (although it's possible some actually ship Gremaya too), Ruthari, Clauderry and Virrow are ambivalent and Virayla prefers Claaravos.
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The reason? While both are hated, most Gremaya haters seem to have either calmed down or blocked me and Claaravos is generally disliked by more people.
Thank you for reading this giant post!
This took forever to assemble T-T hope you find this helpful. Please comment or DM me if you have any questions, thoughts or criticisms! Absolutely feel free to tell me if you feel I could be doing something differently. This will help me improve in future events!
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