#this feels in line for their fanon

[mxtxfanatic]

Random Thought #34: If Madam Yu really had cut off Wei Wuxian's sword hand in order to appease Wang Lingjiao before the Jiang Clan was wiped out, then Jiang Cheng truly and honestly would have been fucked cause no way in hell would Wei Wuxian give up his core after that. He was already thinking of his hand in terms of debt ("if it's in exchange for the peace of the sect..." —exr), and to take away his sword hand is to cripple his ability to cultivate, which he considers a debt he owes to the Jiang for teaching him, to begin with. The scores would have been cleared, then, so any other ask (like, say, protecting the only surviving heir with his life) would be considered extraneous. Wei Wuxian would still do it because it was the right thing to do at the time with the knowledge that he had, but once Jiang Cheng lost his core? That's a wrap!

#random reading thoughts #mdzs #contrary to popular fanon #wwx is NOT self-sacrificing #just because his morals mean he will put himself in the line of fire to do what is right #does not mean he will go above and beyond just to make someone feel better #about a situation he neither caused nor could have reasonably prevented #jc's core loss falls into the latter event not the former #he only gave up his core in canon because of debt not out of affection #taking his hand would fulfill the debt in the same way sacrificing his core did

[broadwayfangirl222]

To me it sounds like he's almost quoting someone...maybe his mom? idk I feel like it adds to the fanon idea I've seen of his mom teaching him this idea of a smile = sign of strength and control. Like I can actually picture her telling him pretty much this exactly on a particularly awful day when he was growing up (like after they had to deal with his abusive asshole father) and him taking it to heart

#sorry for using fanon but I just feel it lines up #my gifs #hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel spoilers

[yuridovewing]

As a fellow Dovewing lover, it's frustrating how the fandom watered her down into a whiny brat who never cared about Ivypool. I mean, seriously? Not only did Dovewing care about her sister (reacting in horror when Lionblaze, her own mentor and Jayfeather are willing to potentially sacrifice Ivypool's safety by employing her as her spy instead of trying to get her out of the Dark Forest's clutches, hiding a thorn in her nest to cover for her scarring from her training).

Heck, even the scene where she tries to feed Ivypool her catch during a hunting patrol was demonized because 'she was trying to make Ivypool break the code like SHE does, as if it doesn't matter' and because she got upset when Ivypool started arguing with her! But you guys said she didn't care, right? Plus, people act like being forced into a prophecy is something you should be grateful for, as if it didn't irreparably change her close relationship with her sister? As if Lionblaze and Jayfeather didn't still keep her out of the loop (and for all the fussing they made about keeping it a secret, Lionblaze confesses his power to Cinderheart and Jayfeather doesn't even care).

Meanwhile Nightheart is angry he isn't orange and hates his mom for being exiled and the whole world has to stop for him. 🤪 And Bramblestar is simply so tortured by having an evil father, the only choice is to train with him and his evil half-brother and hide this from his wife! (But remember, it's bad when that witch Squirrelflight hides the parentage of the three from him, even when Blackstar and Leopardstar were still around after being complicit in the torture and killing of halfclan cats.) Why are these male characters sympathized with, even when they actively harm people (Nightheart forcing himself into Sunbeam's life by lying to everyone about being her mate without even asking her if she would be fine with that beforehand), Bramblestar (we all know what he does), but when Dovewing or any other female character is upset, people freak out and call them whiny brats or abusive for (checks notes) asking her partner if he loves her anymore after they argued multiple times in a book. Really makes you think! (Sorry this is so long, you just have based opinions!)

dovewing being characterized as this flighty airheaded vain popular girl stereotype in fanon is like. one of those biggest "we didnt actually read the books" things in the fandom. like theres so much fanart where shes grinning and giggling over the prophecy and shes besties with the trio and shes got preferential treatment, and then in the actual books shes basically the autistic kid no one actually likes. people really, REALLY overexaggerate that one scene where she snaps at ivypaw and brags. (and i dont wanna shit on amvs but i am forever side eying how the animation community handled dove back in the day. more than one person animated her getting murdered. normal.)

i do think its gotten better recently at least. but wow does it feel like at least one person on the writing team has a bone to pick

(also awww thank you <3 no need to be sorry i love getting stuff in my inbox)

#it does also feel so insidious to me just how long the bramblesquirrel conflict was painted as ''equally kind of wrong'' #the ppl who put words in squilfs mouth sometimes which. btw ill get to that when i read the book #and tbf part of it is that sometimes abuse isnt as easy to spot if youre primed to the mainstream version of it #like. bramble isnt a born evil wifebeater everyone can see coming from a mile away. hes a complex guy with his own insecurities #and his own goals and people he openly cares about. and even in some fanon stuff i see ppl kinda erase that part of him #(which i wont pretend im above- ive been trying to walk that line myself) #and that doesnt match how abusers are usually percieved by the public. or in this very series. #like. the main excuse for clear sky is literally ''hes sad his sister died and tried to save her! no one changes THAT much'' #anyone can be an abuser. you could be an abuser. i could be an abuser. that doesnt mean that we ARE but we are capable of it #and the thing that catches ppl off guard is that abusers are really good at hiding who they are and theyre often charming #i often hear this account of abuse that goes something like ''my parent abused me but no one believed me bc theyre nice in public'' #you dont know whats going on behind closed doors. and ik this is about funny kitties at the end of the day but its quite telling #so... yeah bramble has his nice moments. hes got his GREAT moments even. i love his relationship with his mom for example #but those moments dont mean that hes not capable of being worse. of being a monster to his loved ones #its why squilf keeps getting sucked back in. hes not a one dimensional asshole. hes capable of being kind to her. #and thats what makes his disgusting moments hit so much harder #wow ok i got off topic in the tags but yknow. idk i got feelings abt this matter as someone who's experienced toxic relationships

[capricioussun]

Will probably delete later but genuinely WHY do so many ppl hate uf papyrus. "He’s horrible and a bad brother and abusive >:(((" my guy. YOU made him that way

#always weirds me out when a really bad take becomes popular fanon and ppl treat it like it's an inherent universal take #happens to all characters I feel but it's esp frustrating when it's not just a bad take but just straight making a character a certain way #as a plot device. or to project ur own issues onto. at that point just. make an oc or smth. why mangle a character so severely. what is #the purpose #im not even going to TRY to pretend i have perfect ic flawless interps (I absolutely don't and know this) #but even w/ characters I have minimal interest in (like asgore for ex) it's important to me to at least *try* to keep them in line w/ their #og counterparts. #and you'd think. given how so many ppl infantilized Papyrus. that some of that would've bled thru into au counterparts #but nope. the fanon versions are practically just wholly different characters who just look similar and 'fill the same role' in their au #and it's honestly not like there's a shortage of other characters sans could have a toxic relationship with in uf #(bc let's be honest here that's 90% of the reason uf papyrus got characterized that way. for ppl to project onto and sympathize with sans) #I don't like having strong negative opinions on things and I especially don't like talking abt them publicly but idk if it's just weird #timing or smth I've seen so many bad takes the past couple weeks #to each their own and I'd never like. bash someone for having a diff take than me. I just don't...understand. #idk #I'm really tired and my eyes are sticky so I really shouldn't even be posting rn bc I will see this later and be like #can't BELIEVE that guy posted an opinion on the internet. WHY would he do that

[chillykitty]

controversial(?) opinion: Remus isn't intrusive thoughts. Logan gives an extremely specifically worded answer saying:

"The Duke is like Roman's twin, the embodiment of 'bad imagination'. Which is primarily experienced by you via intrusive thoughts."

Not "he is 'bad imagination' and intrusive thoughts." but "he is 'bad imagination' and you experience him as intrusive thoughts" which is very notable when other characters have it explicitly stated that they ARE other things. Roman is creativity, romance, and the ego, he is all of them, he doesn't cause the other things; he IS them.

Thomas is only hurt by intrusive thoughts because he believes the thoughts he has makes him a bad person. Like Remus explicitly stated that the reason Thomas finds him scary is because of Virgil, which yeah, intrusive thoughts in real life are caused by anxiety. Patton and Virgil are said to be the real ones at fault for making Thomas feel guilty and anxious. Perhaps Remus is causing them maliciously in universe, in attempts to get attention or revenge for being suppressed or whatever, but Logan's explanation is written in such a careful way that to me, it makes it clear (to me, at least) that he is not literally intrusive thoughts, he is just any idea Thomas thinks is taboo.

Due to character arcs, he's probably gonna get accepted. And he probably isn't going to just be accepted (which that part would be good, intrusive thoughts have to be accepted as Just Thoughts) but is also probably going to be a good guy like Virgil. Which it would be bad if intrusive thoughts were glorified like that. Good thing he's not intrusive thoughts.

#/lh but also grrr pet peeve: ppl have different opinions than me #sasi #remus sanders #tss #sasha caws #im not interested in arguing at all. maybe im wrong. i dont think i am but idc. i also dont care what yall do with fanon. but #idk man i feel like a lot of people missed this??? #if he was intrusive thoughts dont you think someone would call him that?? #maybe theres some line where thats what hes explicitly referred to but i dont remember it if that is the case #and if that is the case pls correct me especially if you can remember when it was said ill rewatch it

[darcyolsson]

i don't like being a #hater on main but I have to talk about this. does anyone else feel like everyone in the hashtag nandermo tag is watching a completely different version of wwdits which I don't have access to thats exactly the same plot-wise but somehow a romcom. because i do

#i absolutely agree that theres subtext for them however #wwdits in general doesnt pay much attention to romance and nandermo is no exception #i feel like season 3 was the shippiest by far but even then... scraps babes scraps!!! #i think its a general internet phenomenon where almost the entire content of the show gets dismissed for the 2 minutes of shippy moments #but for wwdits it feels more insane bc apart from season 3 its been like 3 lines per episode at MOST 😭 #ofc i dont mind people shipping ever i too think the vampires should get to fuck however the contrast between canon and fanon is. so jarring #personal

[poorlittleyaoyao]

a thing about Wen Qing that I think has gone underappreciated this tournament is that even real-life, non-magical acupuncturists can fuck up your entire shit if they put (or don't put!) the needles in the proper points at the proper depths and angles

(also she definitely did effective musical cultivation from a distance that one time in CQL during the Yin Iron fetch quest after they all left Cloud Recesses)

A THING TO KEEP IN MIND FOR HYPOTHETICAL FUTURE ROUNDS PERHAPS

#I don't agree with the people going 'oh she's more vicious!' bc that feels like it's coming from the same place as the Mean Lesbian fanons #but I do keep thinking of the time my friend was still in acupuncture school and accidentally made a guy's arm go cold and totally numb #(accidentally! it was a very quick fix and he was fine) #(but what I'm saying is that like any medicine the line between fixing and maiming is thin) #(and unlike other types of medicine the supplies for 'fix' and the supplies for 'maim' are identical and portable)

[sendmyresignation]

truly nothing on this earth is more foul than supernatural familial abuse discourse but specifically the discourse people have about if sam or dean "had it worse" like ok cool you have already missed the point of this show very hard.

#the things ive seen in those trenches..... #its like actually their circumstances were based on their positionality in the family and the expectations each had #but on another level the discourse never truly explores what sams life was like as a child. hes either a spoiled brat or a martyr #in ways that make him one dimensional in ways fanon child dean just. isnt. #sam isnt just isolated. hes also controlled and surveilled. any wrong move (unbeknownst to him) proves to john hes irredeemable #like the center of john telling dean he might have to kill sam. is always dean like i feel crazy with how little consideration there is #toward the mental headspace of a guy whose whole childhood is suddenly warped by the realization his father suspected he was evil #and might need to be put down like a dog. and then. sam accepts this!!!! he truly believes is he Crosses A Line dictated by deans judgement #then oops oh well! because fundamentally sam has been conditioned to believe in his own inability to make decisions about himself #so the 'dean protects sam! dean keeps sam innocent and gave him a childhood' becomes much more insidious when u realize #that is one side of the coin wherein sam is under the complete authority of another person #and obv dean is not evil for that. its learned behavior!! #but instead of teasing out this reality when we learn what john told dean... it becomes aww poor dean :(( instead of a horrific glimpse int #the hierarchy of information and control fundamental to their relationship. guys its a cult. #my posts #spn

[tweeks]

butters has cute moments occasionally he’s interesting occasionally he says things that i like occasionally but something about so many people in this fandom hailing his blue eyed blonde haired naïveté as “purity” when butters is a racist misogynistic asshole in part due to this naïveté feels dark sided like i feel like an insane person for thinking somehow some way the fandom portrayal of butters being so (and i mean this) delusional perpetuates some form of bigotry like i dont know how but it does

#tweeksposts #AND IM NOT SAYING that he’s actually ONLY evil and should die and no nuance i just think hes not blue hair and prounouns and therapy sorry!! #and we are all delusional about our fanon ok whatever we read too much into stuff flanderize things whatnot #and i wish i could be put under the same spell everyone else seems to be under but i just CANTTTT and i feel like im evil for this like #you don’t understand and its not even bad when im watching the show its just seeing butters needs to get SAVED and he’s actually the nicest #makes me like unresonably upset because butters isn’t nice? and you cant save people with yaoi and i cant i cant i cant the word among is ru #girl hes lines…

[lemontongues]

i feel like the thing about canon vs fanon for comic books. is that there are parts of both that absolutely suck shit. and nobody agrees on which parts are which. and like a billion different people have been responsible for all the stuff that happens in canon anyway so there's tons of conflicting ideas and understandings and intentions represented. and half the time the publishers themselves will just be like "actually that was stupid forget i said that, we're starting over." so basically just do whatever the fuck.

#sage talks #this post is mostly for me bc half the time i feel like a shitty and undeserving member of the fandom for not having read tons of comics #and the other half im so annoyed by fanon shit that i can Feel my blood pressure rising #and yknow. they are lines on paper. so it probably doesnt matter that much actually

[llycaons]

I see why people want jc to be all protective of wwx and worry about him being trapped in CR but nothing in canon rly points to that imo. by the end of the series I think he's painfully aware just how much more wwx wants to be with lwj than with him, and his dislike of lwj and of their relationship has always been more about jealousy and insecurity and abandonment issues (and in the novel, straight-up homophobia) rather than wanting to defend wwx from someone who might hurt him. so when authors make jc aggressive towards lwj or wwx for those reasons and then try to claim that's why and he's *really* just worried it comes out of nowhere and makes no sense and should baffle the characters as much as it baffles the readers. like if he's worried about THAT he's going to have to say it like a grown-up

#people remember wwx's one line about not wanting to live somewhere with so many rules from when they were 15 #and construct an entire fanon personality for jc around it #also it doesn't make a lot of sense for cql bc wwx literally left gusu for a while #that's my big pet peeve gotta say. or one of them w these jc fans #he doesn't act like an adult! and we're supposed to expect wwx to regress to communicate like they're teenagers again #instead of expecting jc to consider his actions and words in a mature way and meet wwx on his level in order to make up for how he's acted. #bc he IS the one in the wrong. #and it can be hard to communicate your feelings but there HAS to be something better than this constant aggression and attack #like who wants to have a relationship w someone like that. who wants it. certainly not wwx #ficblogging

[boilingheart]

god it is WILD seeing some of my old 2021 jrwi posts getting notes cause i'll click into them and see what it was and i'm like. damn. some of these you can REALLY TELL that they were said when i at the time still had ZERO influence from the jrwi fandom cause i didn't join it til way later

#bheart talks #i can't explain it but like. idk my takes and views on certain things were completely coming from Me you know #no influence from anyone really #now i tend to be SLightly more of an echo chamber now that i'm fully immersed in jrwi fandom and such so like #i've pulled from other ppl's interpretations and theories and i've fallen in line with certain fanon stuff where i previously had No Data #sometimes i feel like i should leave the fandom just to have that clean slate again but i can't go back at this point #did y'all know i was a polypirates shipper in the first 30 or so episodes LOL #and i wasn't into fnc until it was introduced to me. it was marshall john/gillion for me LMFAOOO #this is what i mean tho yk

[april-doodles]

Heyyy Raditz Comic idea time

Heyyyy remember when I said Raditz would probably have a Full Nelson be a ptsd trigger because he literally dies from it? Yeah… here’s a sketchy comic trying to depict that idea fhdhdhdh this was supposed to come out yesterday but! Oh well :)

#my art #raditz revived au #raditz (but fanon) #tw ptsd #tw panic attck #heyyyy guys fhshdh #Really like the actual ptsd flashback scene djshhfsh #I also uhh referenced the actual Goku Raditz Full Nelson panel when drawing that so y’know #I actually referenced that a couple times which is probs why I like the Raditz ptsd panels dhshdh #Raditz proceeded to feel a tad better after some food and a shower :) #i love you loose sketchy lines where have you been all my life #also! sorry if the representation isn’t that accurate?? I did a little bit of looking up jazz but if it’s inaccurate then…. whoops my bad !! #anyways yeah enjoy i guess lol

[padfootastic]

Ok sorry i have to ask another one now. Thought on regulus, canon vs the current widespread fanon version?

hehehe u don’t need to apologize at all!! these r super fun 🙈

hmmm i think it would be disingenuous to say anything other than i don’t actually have a lot of thoughts about him. in canon, i never really focused on him beyond the little screen time he occupied. there was nothing about him that made me particularly like/dislike him. he’s a blank slate, pretty much. i remember being v amused at harry thinking he’s a less attractive version of sirius lol

fanon, though…..that one’s a landmine that’s completely ruined my impression bc of how he’s characterised. it’s not that he has a personality manufactured from scratch (that’s a necessity) but that so much of it is just sirius’ traits given to him while undermining s at the same time? and also idk where/how it evolved but being sympathetic towards regulus while completely shitting on sirius??? so much talk about him ‘abandoning’ regulus or being a bad brother or being an asshole to him and it’s touted as fact and i’m just like,,,,how,,,,where did it come from,,, (or saying reg was in an abusive family situation but not giving the same grace to sirius?)

i also don’t like how his agency is completely minimised by acting like he didn’t happily become a death eater. just. idk. he has the capacity to be an interesting character right? but i’ve rarely seen him that way. i think a couple time travel fics, maybe? but it’s really hard to find a reg-sirius dynamic that works for me along with a characterisation of him that isn’t like,,,grating ykno?

i think my ideal regulus characterisation would be like—a snobby elitist dude who genuinely thinks he’s above everyone (similar to sirius but more biologically essentialist than him); he’s actually super close w sirius and idt it’s realistic but i like to imagine they kept meeting in secret and didn’t let their bond falter at all during hogwarts; super jealous of james but ultimately tries to atleast tolerate him bc he knows how important he is to sirius; happily drinks the pureblood propaganda kool aid even when sirius tries to refute it; bratty youngest sibling energy max.

these are just like,,,little things here and there and i don’t think i have a solid hold on him but yeah, this is a good starting point. fanon regulus just irritates the shit out of me ngl. gives me ‘nice guy 🥺’ vibes

Send me an ask with ‘thoughts on___’

#love how i say i’m not gonna bitch about a thing and proceed to do an entire jig upon its line #great going pen ur really sticking to ur guns here huh #reading this over and feeling so ashamed of the fact that as a grown adult my opinions r still centred around one man smh #will i ever stop being offended on behalf of sirius? i don’t think think so #‘ideal reg characterisation’ i say as if i have any authority in this space lmao #it’s entirely possible i’m misinterpreting the popular fanon. but this is just what i’ve seen #again caveat here: everyone is free to interpret someone anyway they want #this is just my opinion of the whole thing #but yeah all of that to say: generally neutral on reg. positively frothing @ the mouth when ur comes to fanon him #it* #ask game #pen’s asks