#Behavior Repercussions

[klapollo]

the thing that gets me is the arguments. "well he didnt change." it's been four months. "well he didnt seem to change at all in those months" even if he didn't he's a pariah with an ardent hate fandom eager to sabotage anything he does now now so it's not like he's ever gonna come close to his level of prior success anyway. so what's the end goal

#it's not about HIM it's about the mindset and behavior that have gotten us here. #this punitive harassment mindset has repercussions far beyond this

[juniperhillpatient]

I do not get paid enough to babysit a coworker who gets paid more than me because she’s insane 😭

#I’m so…. I need to just say this because I could strangle a bitch #it’s fineeeee #vent #my coworker is actually literally fucking insane #idk if she’s having a crisis or what but I’m over it I’m fucking leaving #(my shift is over I’m not walking out) #but the repercussions of her behavior on Monday… I’m not part of thisssss

[holedyke]

of course the night i need to get to bed at a reasonable hour bc i have a early rise is ruined by my own brain working me up into a complete meltdown 😵‍💫 i am a prisoner to myselfffff

#i feel so so bad. tbh #tw for child abuse but i need to vent #i was watching a rlly good doc series on behavioral schools for teens which are pretty horrific and even though i never went through #anything like that. but just hearing the subjects from the doc talk about how they feel ruined after being destroyed like that as kids just #has me really emotional and i cant stop thinking about it bc i feel the same way i feel like ill never be who i could have or should have #been but what i went through just ruined me and ill never be okay i just feel fragile and mournful of myself i know nothing could have #saved me like its some big cosmic joke on me. and i never did anything to deserve that #no kid does amd yet it fucking happens and it happened to me witj zero repercussions which is almost what hurts the most #i just feel like a goddamn blubbering mess with a knawing black pit in my heart and i am never going to get to sleep at this point. #fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkk i just for once would like to feel okay about my past and my future like is this the me that ill always be? #broken and blubbering? fuck it feels awful. anyway. prob delete later but i just needed it off my chest #h

[ostwitchsheart]

Sorry to start complaining but its my tumblr

#my friend cut me off for being mean to a guy she didn't even know #and said she hated how i treated ppl but she literally stalked his account to find his brother and post in our gc that hes hot #and proceeded to ask if he's bisexual #i was mean to him bc he kept standing me up so i said he can hangout now or im done talking to him #she was so mad at me for it too and ended a 6 year friendship ovr it #i cant help but to be upset she left and i started subconsciously blaming her #like she didn't know my dad was gonna die etc. but i was with her 24/7 when her family member died #I WAS WATCHING MY GRANDMA WHO HAD CANCER BTW. #like she didn't care at all abt me and it's so hard to face that while not having my dad #then i made a new friend and we talked for awhile but she cut me off randomly w/out any reason #and ive been crying over it #i just feel like i am an issue and problem #I have a horrible habit of only choosing one person to talk to and then facing the repercussions of it when they leave (isolated) #and i know it's my fault but i wish ppl told me what i did wrong or what i did to make them mad/uncomfortable/sad bc i can fix my behavior #but if they just leave it shows they didn't really want to be my friend and that's ok but #all i have is my husband and it gets so boring my life shouldn't revolve around him yet it does because I'm so inept at talking

[hey-scully-itsme]

one of my coworkers seems to have a different understanding of polite refusals than I do and it’s driving me nuts because when I try and hold firm and say ‘no, I’m good, but thank you!’ when she offers me soup for the millionth time she keeps coming back with it. I know social signals can be confusing and some people feel the need to refuse before accepting but we once went back and forth literally for days about one soup until I caved.

#it’s petty office drama and not actually that big a deal but jesus lol #I have no allergies or anything so I have no ironclad reason not to take the food #if I did she’d just make soup without the allergen #and even worse bc she is nice in her own way she’d be careful about cross-contamination and everything #and she’s not really doing anything wrong bc I haven’t shut her down super directly #she’s just trying to be nice as she sees it and she seems to be used to more social workplaces than this one is #but I wish she’d leave me the fuck alone #i can’t shut her down more directly for workplace culture reasons #repercussions would be way more of a problem than her behavior is #she also keeps trying to start intense small talk and there’s no good way to say: #‘hey you seem perfectly nice but I am not interested in being friends with anyone here. can we please keep it friendly but distant’ #and if I give an inch on the small talk so as to prevent getting an oblique scolding from my supervisor again #she takes a mile and then offers me more FUCKING SOUP.

[milfk2so]

also let the celebs who are all circling the wagons around depp, as well as instances like the whole john mulaney thing, remind you that the rich--no matter how wholesome or cool they seem, 9.5/10 they will side with their in group over the safety of others and that means abusers and bigots etc every single fucking time. 

#i could go on a side rant about how this behavior is fucking engrained in the entertainment industry from the ground level up #abusers get power because no one has any incentive to actually stop them #only massive repercussions for being seen as hard to work with or a complainer #or worse someone who damages the image of whatever you're making #bc you blew the whistle on the rapist in the cast

[xnoel]

the last episode of extraordinary attorney woo was really good! even if there were a few things i wish they would have added/done differently.

also i read about their plans for season 2 yesterday but since kang taeoh has to enlist very soon, i thought they would have to make season 2 without him, which made me mad, but thank god they’re waiting for his return 🙏🏼

#watching extraordinary attorney woo #i definitely wish we had gotten a scene of junho and wooyoung’s dad meeting each other #also i still think there should have been some repercussions for minwoo’s shitty behavior before his ‘redemption’

[observethewalrus]

i just do not get twitter. everyone’s angry about something or someone but they’re all vagueposting and won’t actually say what’s going on. i can’t even follow along with the drama in replies cuz each individual comment can have its own replies and suddenly you’re 20 posts removed from the original thread. discourse there is toxic af and I instantly regret opening the app

#so yea two separate fandoms are having drama and I’m not involved I’m just here getting worked up about it anyway #look if you’re gonna claim someone is such a terrible person that people are afraid to interact with them #and you post on a public platform that you have screenshots to prove it #don’t then say you’re not gonna post them and ask people to dm you if you wanna know what’s going on #especially when you’re talking about people I’m fandom and not actual celebrities with money and power #you’re afraid of repercussions but you’re still gonna make that post about someone you don’t even follow you just ‘heard from others’ #that they’re bad and you were sent some secondhand screenshots #you wanna unfollow or block that person? go right ahead #if you wanna call them out then call them out and follow through #people forget you don’t have to post every single thought you have online #and why tf would someone go ‘hey this person who deleted their twitter after being shamed for harassing people is back’ #’but they have a different name and I’m not gonna tell you what it is but you should avoid them cuz they’re bad’ #howwwwwww #am I supposed to avoid them if I don’t know who they are????? #just say what you mean or shut up #if you actually wanna call someone out or warn people about toxic behavior then do it!!! #stop vagueposting for clout especially when it comes to potential harassment #I mean yea this happens on every social media but I feel like it’s so much more prevalent on twitter #uuuuugh #sorry I just needed to rant #I just wanna sit here with my handful of carefully selected fandom friends and creators and have a good time #but some people just gotta be assholes

[kimchunsgha]

armchairs say the most misogynistic sht about bp and think it’s okay and it’s just normalized in their fandom space atp and it’s just concerning how others also let it happen too… honestly you are no better if you don’t call them out

#there are things that bp has done that deserve criticism #i am not saying that i call them out when it’s needed #but some people just have this hatred on them that is big time rooted in misogyny #sometimes v much internalized too 😭 #you can see it by the speech and language they use towards them #and how they call them derogatory terms left and right #and that’s disgusting how you just practice that type of behavior #in a fandom space without repercussions like lmao #for the love of god… get some decency #even tho some of them are beyond saving 🚶‍♀️ #tris.txt

[autistickfigure]

#flowers arts #(ghosts can die hes talking about gueeg. anyway this only reinforces his behavior even though its NOT TRUE) #trying to make a distinction between ghost and memory is stupid But hes doing it anyway Thats ANOTHER reason to hate BOB the KILLER #i used a different color pallet because Sometimes you get sick of it. Sometimes #i wanted to make stupid valentines cards but i dont really have the time for that. its WORK ON ENTRY and then WORK ON PORTFOLIO for me .. #and then find a job that gives me enough hours and time and whatever. Uwah .. #lw #maybe i was gonna talk about more things but thats for another time i suppose (the forgetter) Im gonna go take a bath now Smile #also. sorry for posting a lot today (and possibly other days) i think whenever i see tumblr open i just wanna post something Always #obnoxiously so. it is my blog of course but I still think about the repercussions sometimes

[musical-chick-13]

"This happened. I mean, I don't know for sure, I'm just speculating, and I heard about it from someone who isn't any kind of direct source. It's totally true and we should take this as an immutable fact, though."

#I know people love to go 'google is free' but like. that also applies to you. if you're gonna make broad-ass claims that have actual #repercussions. (this is not about any of y'all btw) #(sometimes I accidentally come across stuff in the wild) #I'd call this clown behavior but a) I actually had to take clowning one time and have respect for the craft and b) I KNOW someone irl who #works part-time as a clown and I do not wish to insult this person like that

[zhaoly]

walked past an apartment building and the door swings open and this unleashed dog comes CHARGING out

dog is a puppy and comes running towards axel and i'm thinking oh my fucking god please no and i'm trying to haul him away

puppy got all up in axel's face while i tried to get him away and of COURSE did not listen to the guy calling him back

i was freaking out internally bc axel is seriously reactive to other dogs, esp when he's leashed, and while it's gotten better, we have not been in that close proximity with other dogs and i had no idea how he'd react. like i was legit terrified he was going to bite this other dog

thank god he didn't, and actually i do suspect it's not pure aggression but more of the crazy excited greeter variety on his part (i havent tested that yet and don't plan to any time soon) but he didn't have any warning/aggressive body language or nips or anything when he was well within range to do so, so that's a relief

but anyway like WHAT THE HELL PEOPLE LEASH UR DAMN DOGS ESPECIALLY IF THEY DON'T HAVE GOOD RECALL???? and we live in a semi-urban area so there's lots of cars and ur just letting ur puppy run around unleashed???? god

#i wasnt worried about repercussions w the owner about axel reacting poorly but more of not wanting the puppy to get hurt #BUT LIKE. THAT'S NOT MY DAMN FAULT IF YOUR DOG GETS HURT BC UR LETTING IT RUN AROUND UNLEASHED AND IT WON'T RECALL #MY DOG IS ON A LEASH AND WE'RE WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALK WHILE UR OPENING THE APT BUILDING DOOR BLIND #AND JUST LETTING UR DOG RUN OUT #AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M MAD #THAT'S JUST SUCH SHITTY BEHAVIOR AND EVERYONE LOSES HERE LIKE WHAT ARE YOU THINKING #personal

[foldingfittedsheets]

Oh my god. I need to share another story of my new friend making today. So my friends husband says, very casually, as we’re about to leave for the ren faire, “Yeah, it’s like my story about fucking a chicken.”

And of the four people present I was the only one who was shocked. The others all nodded as if to say, yes yes, we know, the chicken fucking.

So he explained, when a progressive person is analyzing a behavior they will typically use the metric, Harm/No Harm. They may not like things in the No Harm category but they wouldn’t object.

Conversely, a more conservative mindset used something like eight metrics. Authority/No Authority Moral/Not Moral, things like that.

So, he posited if you want to sound out someone’s mindset (and you’re willing to live with the repercussions) you can ask: if a man buys a dead chicken from the store, cleans it thoroughly, then fucks it, and then eats it himself…?

I listened in dawning horror, both rapt and disgusted. But into the growing pause I whispered, “No harm…” because it really has no effect on me or anyone else if a man fucks a dead chicken. I don’t like it, I think he’s a weird dude, but like. That’s his dick. But a more conservative person will hear that and object on moral grounds despite not being harmed.

It’s been haunting me all day, so please enjoy.

#my life #story #funny #can you imagine the sheer alienation of even asking this though? #there’s some bridges I’d burn and maybe I will pose this to someone down the line if I really don’t give a shit about maintaining niceties

[gawki]

I felt the need to share here as well—

Say no to AI art. Please read before commenting. Fan art is cute, putting my art into a parasite machine, without my consent, and throwing up horrifying monsters back at me is not.

We are not fighting technology in this AI fight. We are fighting for ethics. How do I say this clearer? Our stuff gets stolen all the time, we get it, but it is not an excuse to normalize the current conditions of AI art.

These datasets have >>EXACT<< copies of artists’ works and these parasites just profit off the work of others with zero repercussion. No one cares how “careful” you are with your text prompts when the data can still output blatant copies of artists’ work without their permission. And people will do this unknowingly since these programs are so highly accessible now. There are even independent datasets that take from just a handful of artists, that don’t share what artists’ works they use, and create blatant copies of existing work. There’s even private medical records being leaked. Why do you think music is still hard to just fully recreate with AI in comparison? It’s because organizations like the RIAA protect music artists. Visual artists just want similar protection. So, wonderfully for us, Concept Art Association has started working towards the steps of protecting artists and making this an ethical practice. I highly suggest if you care about art, please support. Link to their gofundme here. One small step at a time will make living as an artist today less jarring. Artists will not just sit and cope while we continue to get walked on. For those who apparently do not get it, it is about CONSENT. Again, the datasets contain EXACT copies of artist work without our permission. Even if you use it “correctly” there’s still a chance it’s going to create blatant rip offs. This fight is about not letting these techbros take and take and take for profit just because they can while ignoring the possible harm and consequences of it. This is just ol’ fashioned imperialist behavior with a new hat and WE SEE IT. Thanks for reading!!! Much love!

Here’s the link again to support the gofundme.

#artists on tumblr #painting #ai art #no ai art #battle for ethics #it is not gatekeeping #these programs are not harmless #we will not cope #we will not sit and seethe #we will fight #and we will not shut up #we will not be stolen from to be profited in without consent #stand with artists #art #and yes we will cry about it #shamelessly #✌️ #love

[secretmellowblog]

Another reason I dislike Les Mis adaptations that make Jean Valjean constantly openly angry/violent is because they miss that Jean Valjean is not allowed to be angry. The fact he is forbidden from expressing anger is, I argue, actually a very important part of his character in the novel!

One of the subtler political messages of the story is that some people are given freedom to express anger, while others are forced to be excessively meek and conciliatory in order to survive.

Wealthy conservatives like Monsieur Gillenormand can “fly into rages” every five minutes and have it treated as an endearing quirk. Poor characters like Fantine or Jean Valjean must be constantly polite and ingratiating to “their superiors” at all times, even in the face of mockery and violence, or else they will be subjected to punishment. If Gillenormand beats his child with a stick, it’s a silly quirk; if Fantine beats a man harassing her, she is sentenced to months in prison.

(Thenardier and Javert are interesting examples of this too. Thenardier acts superficially polite and ingratiating to his wealthy “superiors” while insulting them behind their backs. Javert, meanwhile, is completely earnest in his mindless bootlicking. But I could write an entire other post on this.)

The point is that….Jean Valjean has to be submissive and self-effacing, or he puts himself in danger. He can’t afford to be angry and make scenes, or he will be punished. The only barrier between himself and prison is his ability to be so “courteous” that no one bothers to pry into his past.

Jean Valjean is excessively polite to people, in the way that you’re excessively polite to an armed cop who pulls you over for speeding when you secretly have a few illegal grams of marijuana in the your car trunk. XD It’s politeness built on fear, is what I mean. It’s politeness built on a desperation to make a powerful person avoid looking too closely at you.

It’s politeness at gunpoint.

Jean Valjean has also spent nineteen years living in an environment where any expression of anger could be punished with severe violence. That trauma is reflected in the overly cautious reserved way he often speaks with people (even people who are kind and would never actually hurt him.)

So adaptations that have Jean Valjean boldly having shouting matches with people in public and beating cops half to death without worrying about the repercussions just make go like “???”

Because that’s part of what’s fascinating about Jean Valjean to me? On one hand, he is a genuinely kind compassionate person, who cares deeply about other people and behaves kindly out of altruism. But on the other hand, he was also “beaten into submission” by prison, and forced into adopting conciliatory bootlicking behaviors in order to survive. And it can sometimes be hard to tell when he is being kind vs. when he is being “polite” — when he is speaking and acting out of earnest compassion vs. when he is speaking and acting out of fear.

The TL;DR is that I think it’s important that even though Jean Valjean is very (justifiably) angry about the injustice that was inflicted on him, his anger is harshly policed at all times— by other people, and by himself. He has been told his anger is wrong/selfish so often that he believes it. His anger takes weirder more unhealthy forms because he has no safe outlet for it. His rage at society becomes a possessiveness towards Cosette and silent hatred of Marius, but primarily it becomes useless self-destructive constant hatred of himself. And while I might be phrasing this wrong, I think that’s what’s interesting about Jean Valjean’s relationship with anger— the way his justified fury at his own mistreatment gets warped into more and more unhealthy forms by the way he’s forced to constantly repress it.

#les mis #les mis letters #jean valjean #don’t mind me just Valjeanposting #you know I’m doing okay when I’m Valjeanposting #but yeah I can’t remember the first person who started talking about this concept with me #(it was years ago) #but now I think about it constantly #when you read the book looking through that lens #of certain charcaters being forced to act conciliatory and polite ‘under threat of violence’ #you notice it constantly #it’s such a running Thing #and you could write tons of posts about it on www.tumblr.com

[timothylawrence]

I just find it really frustrating and exhausting how openly racist fandoms can be with little to no repercussions. Nonwhite characters are straight up ignored and have their stories/character arcs replanted onto white characters and no one bats an eye. Nonwhite characters (especially black ones) are held to incredibly high standards that white characters don't have to meet, and if they fail they're villified, if they pass they're labeled as boring.

white fans will reblog one post calling out fandom racism and then do 0 inward reflection about their own behavior and how they perpetuate racism in fandom.

#ewbie.txt #fandom racism spreads beyond just one fandom its a symptom of one's real life prejudice and racism !