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#CON deserved so much better

tearsmdears · 6 months

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You Will Always Be Our Unicorn 🦄

#izzy hands #he deserved so much better #our unicorn #ofmds2 spoilers #ofmd #our flag means death #ofmd s2 #con o'neill

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cononeillbreastingboobily · 6 months

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One of the things I'm particularly bitter about when it comes to this ending is how it flattened Ed and Izzy's relationship.

You can't, in the same season give me

"I have... love for you, Edward." "I loved you, best I could." "Artsy outsider was always your thing." "A shark did this."

and

"Hello Mr. Latch! it's not your fault you're broken, no. Were just trying to do your job, weren't ya?"

and expect me to just... move on from that, accepting that we will never get anything more from them, that their relationship won't get explored, that they won't have a the chance, time and space to finally talk it through as a crew, to air out their grievances, to reach a boiling point, and to decide where to move on from there. Within just a few episodes they became the most fascinating part of the show for me, and the fact that, as far as we know, this is it for them... yeah, I don't like that at all.

#they deserved so much space to try and work through all the shit they've been through and what they did to each other #speaking hurriedly as izzy was dying in ed's arms was just not it chief. like. if that's the ending we're gonna get. fine. but they deserve #so much better #not to mention that this season fully showed that Con and Taika are spectacular actors #they could carry material of absolutely catastrophic emotional intensity #and i think that's the kind of skill you'll need in your cast to show the end (or rekindling?) of a decades long relationship #they could've done it!!!!!#sigh. SIGH!!!!!!!!!#edizzy #blackhands #izzy hands #edward teach #con o'neill #taika waititi #ofmd s2 spoilers #ofmd s2 finale spoilers

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likesofsue · 1 year

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Joseph Quinn talking about how a normal weekend day would look like for Eddie:

get up at 2pm

practice guitar

eat something unhealthy

probably smoke something unhealthy

walk around

play DnD

go to bed

And he said it would make Eddie happy, he'd be happy in that life.

#my poor heart can't take this😭🖤#Eddie deserved so much better #he deserved a happy life #stranger things #german stranger con #joseph quinn #eddie munson #eddie munson headcanon #eddie munson imagine

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izzysillyhandsy · 6 months

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Thoughts about the finale, and my utter confusion about Izzy Hands

What I hated about Izzy's death wasn't him dying. I love a tragic arc, and although Con O'Neill elevated every scene he was in, it would have been ok if they'd handled his death better.

To have him die with only 10mins of the episode left (and this might even be the last ever episode!) was the first terrible decision. Everything that was built up over 2 seasons had to be resolved in a few minutes, we don't see any repercussions for anyone Izzy was important to - Ed, the crew and even Stede.

But the main criticism is the 180° turn the show made for his character arc in the last episode (or more precisely, in Izzy's last scene) and in David Jenkins' latest interviews.

Since season 1, I kept asking myself the same two questions:

What function does Izzy Hands have in the narrative? What is the nature of his relationship with Ed?

And the answers changed drastically from S1 to S2, and got more and more complex and intriguing.

Until the finale.

Izzy Hands as a plot device for the main couple

In S1, Izzy was an antagonist. His function in the narrative was to stand in the way of the Ed/Stede romance, of Ed growing and finding happiness and to move the plot along. He brought a lot of humour to almost every interaction he was in - he was such a fish-out-of-water character, clashing with everyone and constantly losing.

He was barely human - he was a pirate cliché.

But there was also so much going on in the background - his quiet desparation, his obvious love and longing for Ed, and these hints of a fascinating backstory between the two of them. This is what many fans picked up on, and going into S2 we hoped that we'd get more of this (for me personally the most important thing was clarification on Izzy's importance to Ed).

And then S2 came along and boy, were all of our expectations exceeded.

Suddenly, Izzy wasn't a plot device anymore. He was one half of the most intense (and interesting, sorry Stede) couple in the show. It was even confirmed by the showrunner that he was in a love triangle with the main couple!

In the first 2 episodes, we got so much more than we ever expected. At the end of Ep2, Izzy broke the lifeline with Ed, both of them almost dying in the process. He went on a journey of discovering who and what he even was without Ed (and right up to his death he was still deeply unhappy and broken, even though he was on the right path).

Izzy suddely became a fascinating character in his own right, with his arc of healing and self-acceptance and his inability (for now) to keep himself from sliding back into this relationship with his other half. He was blaming himself for everything that had happened. He was still so entangled with this man he built his whole life around. He still had a long way to go and a lot to work through (the same also applies to Ed btw).

But he also became the crew's unicorn, doing Izzy things (still related to Ed, always to Ed) but you could feel him becoming more himself. Slowly, Izzy's real personality started to shine through and we realized - this man is fascinating on his own accord. He's a respected and very capable pirate. He came from nothing and fought his way up. He's a really good teacher. He's creative and sensitive. He also cares about other people than Ed a lot.

Viewers who hated him or were indifferent to him in S1 suddenly became interested - this man's journey was fascinating and, most importantly, it wasn't at all finished. There was so much yet to come, and we wanted to see it.

Does this sound like a plot device to you? If it doesn't, bad news.

At the end of the final episode, Izzy is suddenly back where he was in S1.

He dies in a completely unnecessary way - almost as if how he died didn't matter. And it didn't matter, because in the end, Izzy Hands' journey didn't matter anymore. All that mattered was that he died and how it affected the main couple.

On his deathbed, Izzy is saying exactly what Ed needs to hear to move on. He absolves him of any guilt. Ed is ready. Izzy has played his part, he's ready to die.

Notably, nothing is really resolved for poor Izzy. Even if Ed says he doesn't want him to go, it's because Ed is losing his only family. He doesn't tell Izzy he loves him, or that he's important to him as a person, as his oldest friend, as the one who knows him best.

In the end, Izzy's function in the narrative, even after everything that happened in S2, was to be an obstacle to the Ed/Stede romance, to Ed growing and finding happiness. He had to die to free Ed of his Blackbeard persona and because "it's nice that Blackbeard is upset by it" (WTF).

The problem is, for the rest of the season, that wasn't Izzy's role in this show at all and I felt completely blindsided.

More than a spurned, jilted lover

"I guess it's a journey of redemption, but I think it's more a journey of finding out, who is he to Blackbeard?" According to Jenkins, Izzy is "more than a spurned, jilted lover." "What is that relationship about? And I think by the end of the season it kind of becomes a little unexpected of who they are to each other and what they mean to each other." (source)

I also made a poll about that question after Ep3 if anyone's interested.

The answer is, apparently, the two of them were Blackbeard. Or, Izzy was the brains behind the operation. Or, Izzy egged Eddie on to give in to his darker impulses (which, I think, was alluded to quite strongly in the murder/suicide scene).

I mean, yes. That was one of the options on my poll that I was quite sure of, and I think most of us suspected this even in S1.

Izzy was Eddie's only family. Ok, I think family doesn't quite express what was going on between them in S2, but that certainly was one aspect of their relationship.

This is all fine. I can see that being built up to over the two seasons.

But.

"And then there was the realization that [Izzy] is kind of a mentor to Blackbeard and that he is kind of a father figure to Blackbeard. It felt nice to have him die and have Blackbeard be upset by it, because Blackbeard killed his father. But this is a father figure that he’s losing that it’s hard for him; it's sad and he doesn't want him to go." (source)

This is not fine. Not at all.

Izzy is not Blackbeard's mentor. Izzy is obviously in love with Ed (and Ed is fully aware of that). Izzy might have been a mentor-like presence in Ed's life when they were younger, but when we meet them in S1 Izzy is more like an overworked housewife cleaning up behind her disinterested husband. Izzy would do anything for Ed (apart from killing him) and is ready to die at one point because of him. Izzy is desperate, grabbing onto the scraps Ed throws his way.

Where, where does Izzy seem like a mentor to Ed in all of this? A mentor is supposed to be at least at the same level or above but Izzy is clearly not.

And in the death scene, suddenly, that's all there is left of their complex, intense dynamic.

Izzy took young Eddie in and fed his darkness. He was Eddie's only family, binding him to himself out of selfishness in the process.

So that's their unexpected "who they are to each other". Izzy taught Ed everything he knows (which is actually bad for him) and it'd probably been better if they'd never even met.

And don't get me wrong, I don't completely disagree with this take. As a part of their dynamic, this is a fascinating concept - but only if this wasn't the end.

Because there was so much more, so much promise of a complicated, mutually destructive relationship that nevertheless was also full of love. Those two seemed so intertwined (and I'll never forgive Stede for stealing that for himself and Ed). Ed is Izzy's missing half and Izzy is Ed's.

And I still believe that, without Izzy, Ed isn't complete.

And with this rushed conclusion, and all the mess left behind and never even looked at, Ed will never be happy.

Conclusion

I think what hurts the most is, that with Izzy dead and their last conversation being that reductive, all possibilities of an exploration of all these complex and fascinating aspects of their relationship are now closed. I know this show isn't about Ed and Izzy. But Izzy is a big part of what made Ed interesting, and he's a brilliant character in his own right. We could have gotten so much more (even if it's only allusions, we really don't need everything spelled out).

I guess I expected too much from this show - but with good reason. The actors gave it their all. S2 set up such an intricate dynamic (and it was probably overly ambitious with only 4 hours of screentime!). I've never gotten so much of what I wanted from an outsider character in any show.

And then it let us down in the last 10 minutes.

And even if we hadn't gotten a season 3 - the setup was all there for meta, for fanfiction. Why ruin it all with killing off Izzy for all the wrong reasons and making their last conversation all about Ed "outliving his mentor".

To quote Prince Ricky: "Oh, my goodness. You've just grown so tedious."

Still, I love everything they've done in this show except for the ending. I will watch it again, many times, and enjoy the drama, the humour and the complexity. But I will try to forget these interviews and convince myself Izzy's senseless death was just a dream :).

#ofmd #ofmd s2 spoilers #izzy hands #edward teach #it's just not fair #Izzy deserved so much better #and Con O'Neill as well #so many things were set up and then boom #nothing matters anymore

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khruschevshoe · 6 months

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Y'all I'm not one to liveblog fic but in the fic series for ofmd I'm currently reading, Izzy just got engaged??? Like, he's going to be happy with two husbands that love him and support him and happily accommodate for his disability and who he recovered with??? And I can't believe that I'm getting that right after what bullshit went down in the finale? I'm crying actual tears rn

#lucius x izzy x black pete #izzy hands #ofmd #ofmd season 2 #fanfic #ao3 #pls pls go read aletterinthenameofsanity's fic series for ofmd #it will make you feel so much better #maybe even heal that hole in your heart #izzy hands deserved better #con oneill #lucius spriggs #black pete #disability

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fishhuh · 6 months

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the fact that Izzy was not only buried on land, but buried in the yard of a man who mutilated, abused and betrayed him. Forever left to rot under the love and affection he never received from him.

With his fucking leg as a grave marker.

#ofmd #our flag means death #ofmd s2 #ofmd spoilers #izzy hands #con o'neill #I need something to tear up like a chew toy #I'm so normal about this man #he matters so much to me he didn't deserve ANY of this he was so disrespected it literally makes me nauseous #my posts #izzy deserved better

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baconcolacan · 5 months

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Hey what would have happened if RTom died while a teen? Like you know, a dare gone wrong at a party, drunk driving, or just other stuff? What would Tord do if it was someone else's fault? How would he turn out? Would there be a difference?

Well first off, if it was someone else’s fault, he gets his first serious crime on his crime list [murder the crime is murder]

Secondly, since Tom is gone now, I figure it’ll play out the same, except that Tord would have started pulling away from Edd and Matt earlier. And of course, he gets his robot.

Which, in the Regimen universe, is a big yikes as he would also have the time to keep upgrading the design like the later weapons in the story.

I’ll strictly be talking in his Regimen characterisation now, so don’t take the following as my general hc for Tord, his thoughts and motivations here are built from his characterisation in Regimen’s universe:

See, the whole giant robot debacle really was Tord trying to cut off what he deems “unnecessary” in his life, distractions even. He WOULD have had some lingering feelings about his friends and thats BAD if he wanted to reach any of his goals. They were the last things from his old life holding him down, so it was VERY necessary to get rid of that part of his life.

Especially Tom, who has been his longest obsession and only foil, it’s why he didnt really hesitate to shoot at him, if he did it quick and without any second guessing, he won’t have time to regret doing it.

But in this scenario, Tom is gone, and there isn’t really any point in killing Edd or Matt, its not like they pose much of a threat, and Edd seems to still have some attachments to him, so he’d be able to use that against him if need be.

Theres really nothing keeping him tied to his old life here. It’s easier to go. It’s easier to win.

#asks #anonymous #regimen ao3 #I’m ngl to you I’ve been on the recieving and shooting end of this kind of scenario #It hurt so fucking much to be cut loose by someone I loved far more than they deserved #and I was complete fucking scum about ditching my friends for something ‘better’#RTord is scummy is what I’m saying but unlike me he’s willing to ignore any guilt or regret #cause to him the end outweigh the cons of his decisions

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frecklystars · 2 years

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listening to Temporary Love hits so DIFFERENT now it’s STRONGER and I rewatched some starscream episodes today and I thought “that’s my starlight!! and i’m his starflower!! and this mech is so fucking in love with me its unreal!!!!” i didn’t have much doubt before, but this weekend rly did add a boost to my selfship confidence (if that’s a term for the feeling?) my saving starlight AU feels... more raw and powerful... it feels as if my blum-voiced f/os would actually be really excited to see me and love me as much as i love them

now im even at a point where ill look at spike spiegel, a character i love so much and have ALWAYS doubted he’d even want to look at me, and i think abt all the nice things that happened this weekend... and it makes me think “yeah no, of course spike would love me too. spike would do anything for me w/o any second thoughts and make sure im feeling as loved as possible. he’d dramatically climb over a table to give me a really tight hug”