#Mag 122

[cosmichearter]

It’s me, the Eye. Read the statement now I don’t care if you were in a coma for six months 

[Image ID: Three drawings. The first is just a banner with text saying “one six-month coma later...” The second and third drawings are black-and-white drawings of Jonathan Sims, a brown man with black and white hair sitting in a hospital bed, dressed in a hospital gown. He has green pupils and a green tongue. He’s hooked up to an IV. In the first drawing, he clutches his head while saying “Damn, that was wild.” In the second drawing, he holds a statement in his hands and says “Anyways,”. /. End ID]

#jonathan sims #tma #the magnus archives #mag 122 #doodle hearts

[creatorofarcadia]

I’m aware that I’m definitely Jon Sims biased when I listen to TMA, he’s my favourite, so naturally it’s much easier for me to empathise with him. But every time I re-listen (I’ve lost count now but I think I’ve done 6?), I always legitimately try to let go of my bias and really consider the perspective of characters I instinctively disagree with. Something I’ve noticed is that, the one moment that always gets me, that I can never look past or empathise with, is Basira and Georgie’s response to Jon waking up in MAG 122.

It’s funny because I don’t think it is supposed to be some character defining moment for either of them and (maybe I’ve just missed it because I’m not super fandom active) I’ve never really heard anybody else talk about this. But the way they respond to him has always REALLY rubbed me wrong. Because I get it, they’re concerned about how much ‘Jon’ is really left inside the person sat in bed, but Jesus fuck. This guy wakes up after, as far as you know at the time, sacrificing himself to successfully save billions of people and the first thing you say is ‘no it’s not good you woke up actually’ - like damn he’s been conscious for 10 SECONDS could this not wait until later? Could you first idk, thank him? Say your glad to see your friend is still alive and save the ‘are you human?’ conversation for after he’s had a cuppa maybe?

The first thing you say to someone who’s woken up from a coma being ‘it’s not good you woke up’ just seems needlessly fucking cruel, regardless of how I attempt to spin it in my mind. And unless you’re literally talking to Satan the correct response to “Disappointed to see me alive?” is unequivocally NO not “We can deal with it later”. 

Overall, there’s a difference between caution and callousness, and while I understand the desire to be cautious with Jon as how much of his humanity remains is unclear, this moment always tipped into callousness for me in a way I struggle to empathise with even when I really try. 

#tma #the magnus archives #the magnus pod #jonathan sims #jon archivist #basira hussain #georgie barker #mag 122 #tma spoilers

[a-mag-a-day]

Hi I'm actually not over how Jon woke up from a six-month coma with his friends dead and all he got was a call-out statement and his humanity questioned. He didn't even get a hug wtf. No one held his hand. No one smiled at seeing him alive. No one said "thank god" and no one said "welcome back" and no one said "i'll take you home." He didn't even get a cup of tea

He didn't even get a cup of tea

#a mag a day #tma #the magnus archives #episode asks #mod ashes #mag 122 #gilgamushroom

[the-magpie-archives]

You see, Martin says 'I grieved for you' to Jon, but this doesn't do justice for just what he would have gone through.

As most people know, having a loved one in hospital is horrible, but Jon's case is an entirely different thing. Assuming Jon was initially taken to a hospital in Great Yarmouth, it would've taken Martin a while to get there, even if he left right away. He might have missed Jon's emergency treatment, but he certainly didn't miss the worst of it.

Many people assume that CPR is a quick, simple, lifesaving procedure, it is not. Jon was found not breathing, and without a pulse, so he would have had at least 20 minutes straight of CPR, and that messes up a body. On a person as weak as Jon it would badly break ribs, and cause a lot of bruising. Even if Martin didn't have to watch Jon's chest be crushed to no avail, that type of damage is often visible.

I don't know if you've ever seen a dead body, but it's different to an unconscious one in every way. Jon of course, was not dead, but he would absolutely look it. As I'm sure you know, blood being pumped is what keeps the body warm, and breathing accounts for a large part of what we perceive as living, so the absence of both of these, especially in a loved one, is jarring, and likely to send anyone into shock

In lots of TV shows you see doctors calling deaths, but in reality it's actually quite a difficult thing to diagnose. It's not a quick check of the pulse and you're done, there's a lot of tests; there are many conditions that can look like death. In Jon's case his mind and nerves were still active, meaning it would have been picked up on fairly quickly, but Jon would have been assumed dead until these tests were completed.

The thing with a case like this, is there's nothing the doctors can feasibly do; as Elias says, it's an unknown quantity. The most likely course of action would be to make him as comfortable as possible, and redo the death checks every so often. There would be no hope for his recovery, but legally the hospital would have to do this, and would be able to offer very little comfort.

Although of course you want your loved one to survive, many family members of coma patients confess to hoping that they'd just die. The limbo of waiting is impossible to process, and having them there but having no way to communicate with them can be excruciating. There's no way to properly grieve for someone if you always have it in the back of your mind that they could wake up.

Giving up on someone like that is terribly and awfully painful. You can tell them you're sorry all you want, but you'll always be thinking about how they'd have wanted you to stay. Having to create both sides of an interaction like that when truly you're in control of neither is simply impossible to recover from.

Every action Martin took after Jon's death was justified, logical, even. To succumb to the lonely after leaving the man you love, sentencing him to die alone?

It feels right.

#I will NEVER stop going on about the coma storyline...it was just so GOOD #My mum was a nurse I used to want to go to med school and I grew up with many relatives in the hospital so my brain says DETAILS #It's just the most exquisite form of torture for the characters <3 #tma #the magnus archives #the magnus institute #Jonathan Sims #martin blackwood #Jmart #jonmartin #tma analysis #tma posting #tma the end #mag 120 #mag 121 #Mag 122 #tw hospital #tw injury #tw coma #tw mention of death

[a-mag-meme-a-day]

MAG Season 4 (probably mag 122?)

Another day, another mutual finds out that I run this account (you know who you are bestie)

#a mag meme a day #the magnus archives #mag 122

[marcelineuntitled]

mag 122 but if Tim was still there

#tma #tma fanart #jontim #jontim fanart #jon sims #jon sims fanart #tim stoker #tim stoker fanart #the magnus archives #the magnus archives fanart #my art #i just want them to be friends again man #mag 122 #tma spoilers #just in case idk #(even if Tim doesn't like him and even if he doesn't forgive him and even if it isn't necessarily True just yet #he thinks Jon needs to hear it from Someone)

[libraryfag]

guy who just watched people he's met experience eternal suffering and torment and death for 6 consecutive months voice: im fine

#my posts #tma #mag 122

[bl00d-1n-wat3r]

*THE* ARCHIVIST??1?1??1?1? BRO GOT PROMOTED

#the magnus archives #tma #jonathan sims #MAG 122 #I was so suprised #the magpod #magnus archives #magnus protocol #the magnus protocol #the magnus archives season four #the magnus archives season 4 #liveposting

[trees-to-meet-you]

This man is so autistic

#‘it can be hard though. sometimes. other people………feelings….’ #yea jon you’re describing me now and guess what i am #adhd and autistic babey!! #welcome to the club my dude #the magnus archives #tma #mag 122 #liveblogging #jonathan sims

[shhhimnothereiswear]

My thoughts on TMA eps 119-123 -by me on the bus to skl (copied from my notes app)

119. THE INTRO CHANGED???? BRO WHAT. I'm actually not sure what's going on uh HE JUST BLEW UP. WHAT THE FLIP???

120. ELIAS BOUCHARD. WHAT THE FLIP ARE YOU DOING. "regarding the dreams of Jonathan Sims, head archivist of the Magnus Institute, pulled directly from subject" WHAT WAIT HES GOING THROUGH THE 14 FEARS. OMG ELIAS JUST GOT ARRESTED?!??!?!?! BAHAHAH HE JUST GOT FUCKING PUNCHED. AND HE CARRIES ON THE CONVERSATION LMAOOO. PETER LUKAS IS IN CHARGE NOW?!?!?! WHAT. he's so nice T-T

121. ANTONIO BLAKE IS BACK???? WHAT THE FLIP. HE IMPERSONATED A GUY BAHAHAHA. "MEMENTO MORI" WW REFERENCE?!?!??! wait am i stupid who did antonio remind georgie of. BRO WHAT WAS THAT AT THE END

122. JONS ALIVE WOOO!!1!1!!!!1!!! NO HE REFERRED TO GIMSELF AS "The Archivist" INSTEAD OF "Head Archivist of The Magnus Institute" WHYYYY

123. MELANIE NO STOPPPPP. "-decided to ignore some of his new directions and wooshhhhh. "Sorry, what's "wooshhhhh"?" "Wooshhhhh." BAHAHAHA

#cheerios talks :0 #tma spoilers #the magnus archive spoilers #jon tma #jonathan sims tma #tim tma #timothy stoker #tim stoker #elias tma #elias bouchard #peter lukas #the archivist #head archivist of the magnus institute london #the magnus pod #the magnus archives #the magnus institute #mag 119 #mag 120 #mag 121 #mag 122 #mag 123

[jasperathrifteddoll]

MAG 122 Zombie

#horror #tma #the magnus archives #my stuff #my art #the stranger #mag 122 #my tma episode art

[burninginthegymplplinko]

MAG 122 - Zombie

doodle 122/200; days left - 5/110 13/128

perhaps i don't wanna always draw horror. perhaps, sometimes, i wanna draw a normal flatmate moment with a guy who is a zombie

#tma #the magnus archives #tma 122 #mag 122 #tma s4 #anyways. ignoring non-statements parts as hard as i can bc it h u r t s #that wasn't in the plan #i thought it's gonna b fine when i know what happens ToT #n its naht </3 #probably gonna return to this one later though #maybe try to paint it in colour

[itchyeye]

JON'S ROUGHED UP POST-COMA VOICE 🫠🥴😵‍💫

#[🪳]mine #mag 122 #elias was in prison refusing visitors bc he would've dropped DEAD

[a-mag-a-day]

hearing jon refer to himself as "The Archivist" for the first time, knowing what he is, is so insane.

I love that moment so much it's so tasty

#a mag a day #tma #the magnus archives #episode asks #mod ashes #mag 122 #tma spoilers #daelfbee

[martin-kartin-blartin]

Scattered thoughts about mag 122 (Zombie) because I have so many of them

Georgie sat at Jon’s side for 6 months just to tell him that she doesn’t have faith in his humanity. Icon.

Basira grabbed a statement about zombies to bring to her dead boss

Her dead boss woke up to read his zombie statement

Oh my god this statement giver makes me want to scream

The way she definitely *did* have an interaction with the stranger but she’s also so antisocial that her assumption about everyone being hollow and having nothing behind their eyes could also just be the apathy towards the feelings of others she described at the beginning of her statement

Sometimes it’s the spiral but sometimes people are just. Regular human bad at human interactions and suffering from delusions

Jon canonically has bad fashion taste according to Basira and I think that’s important

Jon declines Basira’s offer for water before reading a statement but asked for water after. Reading statements makes you thirsty, canon

*THE WAY JON’S VOICE GETS SMOOTHER AS HE READS THE STATEMENT*

The way mr jarchivist was breathing and able to talk but chose not to until the girls started talking about tape recorders

“I feel… more real, somehow” “so what does that *actually* mean?”

You’re so right Basira what DOES that mean?

Anyway there’s so much going on in this one I’m not organizing my thoughts okay goodnight

#tma #the magnus archives #magpod #jonathan sims #the archivist #tma season 4 #tma season 4 spoilers #mag 122 #zombie #kartin speaks

[itssomethingcosmic]

mag 122 — zombie

The statement definitely feels like a Fear Soup between the Spiral, the Stranger, and the Lonely each sharing a solid enough meal. It's interesting because thinking about the statement giver's perceptions of other people can be attributed to each Fear that specifically plays on the construct of "this Person is Other"

The Lonely: the hollow, soulless people sound like the empty masked figures in MAG 108: Monologue

The Stranger: the Man's skin giving way easily like a canvas and the flat, automated speech: "Just fine, thank you for asking!"

The Spiral: solipsism is the belief that only one's own mind can truly be known to exist, so Lorell's reality in the case would literally be her perception of it. Lorell is the only one who can see these zombies. She is so certain that Liam is a zombie (but from the sound of it, his reactions sound completely normal) and later, she doubts if Norma had ever been real or if the Man had taken her soul.

I also want to shout out the Extinction seasoning again in this Fear Soup! The very last thing Lorell ends her statement on is the feeling that she might very well be the only real person left in the world, where everyone else has been hollowed out and replaced by the "soulless horde".

I love TMA's take on zombies going the philosophical "brains = souls" route instead of the gory "eat brains!" route. It's so much more interesting generally just as food-for-thought but also of course as its connection to the narrative where Jon is now — wondering how human he feels, how much he's actually changed (he even makes a joke about it afterwards lol)

But he doesn’t need to worry too much about that… He still feels guilt at being alive while Tim is not and Daisy is M.I.A. He still worries about Melanie and Martin (especially Martin hehe) and hopes they are okay. He is still so soo human in all the ways that matter it Hurts ;___;

@a-mag-a-day

#the magnus archives #a mag a day #mag 122 #zombie #tma spoilers #jonmartin #jonathan sims