So I think my mum ships Frodo/Sam.
Have been watching the Lord of the Rings Trilogy for the last three days and finally reached the goodbye scene where Frodo sails off to the Undying Lands with Gandalf and other elves.
My mum was fully expecting Sam to leave middle earth with Frodo. Till the last second she was waiting for Sam to either stop Frodo from leaving or straight up accompany him on the final journey.
"Mum! Sam is married to Rosie Cotton, remember!? " - I literally had to remind her.
"Oh, yeah, Sam shouldn't have done that! Shouldn't have gotten married!" - was all my mum said dejected.
I had to stop my giggles, because she was so blatantly shipping them and I had never seen her do that before.
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went for a walk with a friend today who does not think frodo and sam have anything sexual going on and i said what about i can’t carry it for you but i can carry you, and she said but that’s not sexual!!!!!!!, and i said by those impossible standards who even fucks in the lord of the rings universe, and she said gandalf, and i said now this is just your thing for older men coming out, and on this public street where we were walking she yelled FIRSTLY GANDALF IS FEMME
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You can feel free to ignore this if you would like, but you mentioned in that conversation you were having about whether the LOTR movies are well written or not that nothing make you angrier than what Peter Jackson did to Faramir.
So I was wondering - do you hate that more than what Amazon is doing with their show (which as your anti rop tag indicates, you rather dislike)
Hey anon! Thanks for the ask!
To answer your question, I do hate what PJ did to Faramir more than what Amazon is doing to the Second Age, if only because I love Faramir more than I love Galadriel or the second age in general.
But it actually goes a little bit deeper than the starting point of affection I have for either character, and that revolves around expectations.
in general, when it comes to entertainment, very few things make me more upset than wasted potential. I see it time and time again in movies and in tv shows, and every single time it happens it makes me genuinely upset because I can SEE the potential for greatness... only for the result to be lesser than what it might have been if it was just bad simply BECAUSE of that potential.
So the Faramir thing? I had such high hopes for it. I was only nine when I saw The Two Towers in theaters for the first time, but based on how much I loved the first movie I was unbelievably excited to see how they would portray Faramir. My biggest concern was that he would not have black hair, since Boromir also did not have black hair. So to say I was deeply disappointed is an understatement.
And to this day, I'm upset because the quality of those movies is so high that if they HAD done justice to Faramir, it would have been superb in every way. TBH this is probably what spawned my general tendency to get so upset by wasted potential.
But with Amazon's show? There was never any potential.
I hoped when it was first announced that maybe it would be good, but everything new that I learned about it made it clear to me that it never had the potential to be good, and the first trailer for the show confirmed that for me. i'm less upset by the events of the actual show than I am by Amazon's actions and the efforts of the showrunners and the shill media to smear the name of JRRT, bash Christopher, and hide behind their diverse cast so that they could insult anybody who had any issue with the show by saying "you're just racist", even though 99% of the criticism has nothing to do with that.
Is Amazon's show polluting the lore? Yes. Is it clearly made with absolutely zero respect for the source material? Yes. Is its portrayals of... any and every character facepalmable at best (POLITICALLY AMBITIOUS ELROND??? DAFUQ???) and offensive at worst (Galadriel, who is known for her wisdom and the fact that Sauron could not trick her... is an idiot who is easily fooled by Sauron???). Also yes. Is its efforts at diversity actually more offensive than having no diversity at all (the "more dangerous, less wise" elf is the black one? And he's the ONLY black elf? Where are the other black elves? and why does he get a slavery arc? is the prime example). Yes again.
But there is no potential that it was ever going to be anything but bad. The only wasted potential I see is a few of the cast members are way too good for the slog they're forced to wade through. The show is no better, no more respectful, and no more competently made than I really expected.
But with Faramir? Not only do I love him more than the entirety of the second age and all the characters therein, but the movies are so excellent that there is enormous wasted potential in the fact that they did not do him justice. Like imagine those movies only without completely destroying the entire line of Stewards! Boromir was good until the TTT retcon, but if Denethor and Faramir had been written accurately??? it would have been breathtaking. And the fact that that did not happen makes me genuinely upset, on top of how upset I am over ruining Faramir (and Denethor) in the first place.
tl;dr
I hate what PJ did to Faramir more than what Amazon is doing to the second age because those movies had potential that they wasted, as opposed to Amazon not even having the potential to be anything but bad. Also because I love Faramir more.
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