Essential Avengers: Avengers West Coast #50: RETURN of the HERO
November, 1989
I'm sure that someone was asking for this but I couldn't guess who.
Look.
The thing about the robot Human Torch is that he's just less interesting than Johnny Storm human Human Torch.
Marvel brings back Jim Hammond a lot but he never sticks around because he's just not super interesting.
But its pretty blatantly obvious that John Byrne wants him back, given how he's taken a crowbar to Vision's character to justify it and has had Captain America and Namor start talking unprompted about how cool it would be if robot Human Torch came back.
So, it's happening.
You really want this, John Byrne, so lets see how it plays out.
Last times in Avengers West Coast: a lot. Scarlet Witch got kidnapped by a Texas college and stuffed full of ooze until she went evil. The ooze was defeated by the Great Lakes Avengers but Wanda still has the mutant supremacy memories it jammed in her and she's not sure how it may affect her.
Also, some lady was teased as coming to the Avengers on robot Human Torch related business and now she's here.
That subplot progressed a lot more quickly than I thought it would.
If it was Englehart still, we'd be looking at four teases before she ever got anywhere.
Because John Byrne hates me personally, there's a two-page spread of the Avengers West Coast all eyeing the lady with varying amounts of suspicion and sympathy. And weirding them all out, US Agent who speaks to the woman with patience and empathy.
US Agent: "All right now, ma'am, calm down. Take it easy. The Avengers were created to help people in distress. But you've got to tell us your story slowly... clearly..."
I'm honestly surprised US Agent is in the book. He just seemed to disappear after Tigra hit on him.
The woman explains that she is Ann Raymond, widow of Thomas Raymond, aka Toro, aka the robot Human Torch's partner/sidekick.
Toro is dead. He died during a battle between Namor and the Mad Thinker.
Namor came and told Mrs Raymond himself. And she believed it until she heard the news that Vision wasn't made out of Human Torch.
(Again: Why did you announce that to the press, the Avengers??)
Wanda gets immediately hostile when Mrs Raymond mentions the Vision/Human Torch thing. I presume she's sick of this subplot by this point.
Scarlet Witch: "Calm myself? How can I calm myself when the whole world has gone completely insane?! Isn't it bad enough that I've had to see my husband dismantled... his mind erased... isn't it bad enough that a group trying to use me to find a way to possess all the other mutants on Earth used the Vision's condition as their avenue of approach to lure me into their clutches... Now this madwoman wants to implicate the Vision in the death of her husband?"
Wonder Man tries to tell Wanda to calm down but she tells him to fuck off. Well, not literally. They're not going to say fuck in Avengers. But that's the tone of her jerking away when he puts a hand on her shoulder.
Wanda was ready to just wash her hands of the Avengers after the Absolom College Ooze Incident. They got her to stay by promising to actually try to help Vision.
But the Avengers still don't seem to really care as far as Wanda can tell and are letting this new thing distract them.
In fairness, does this require the whole team? Do you need to be here listening to Mrs Raymond, Hank Pym?
Wanda stomps off, threatening to actually quit for realsies. Wasp starts to go after her but Vision stops her. Its his job as husband to tend to Wanda's emotional needs. He has no idea how to do that because emotions are DATA NOT FOUND but its his duty so he's going to go be adjacent to her anyway!
Aww?
Anyway, Hank Pym, who definitely doesn't need to be here for this, prompts Mrs Raymond to tell her story.
So... flashbacks. Or new information.
In indeterminate amount of time ago, Thomas Raymond, Toro, hears that the Human Torch was killed when the Fantastic Four were around.
Now, right off the bat this is weird. I'm pretty sure that the Human Torch was already dead, having blown himself up in a desert, and was found and resurrected by the Mad Thinker who tried to use him to destroy the Fantastic Four.
Wouldn't Thomas' reaction be more like 'holy crap, the robot Human Torch came back to life and died like ten minutes later? Weird!'
Thomas goes to the robot Human Torch's funeral (I thought the FF just left him to not-rot in a cave?) to pay his respects but the funeral is obviously a trap. Because one: there's no superheroes there. And two: the Mad Thinker buys Thomas a drugged coffee and drugs him with it.
The Mad Thinker used Toro's flame powers in a scheme with Egghead and the Puppet Master to black out all the power in America.
Toro was brainwashed into thinking he was the original Human Torch and sent to attack Namor. Namor brought him to his senses and Toro decided, despite having a loving wife, to sacrifice himself to push the Mad Thinker's escape rocket into a volcano.
The Mad Thinker, of course, walked that off. Making the whole thing pretty dumb.
Mrs Raymond didn't know all that. She just went looking for Thomas when he didn't return from the funeral.
She couldn't find him and only found that the cemetery named in the funeral announcement was not in active use so he couldn't have attended a funeral there.
So she went home and bam there's Namor.
Namor and Mrs Raymond compared notes and that's how she had the whole story for this flashback exposition.
The Wasp reiterates that the Fantastic Four just left the original Human Torch's body lying where they left it because he may have been the first Marvel hero and a famous Nazi puncher but as far as Reed Richards was concerned, he wasn't a real person.
Anyway, the Human Torch's body was supposedly found by Ultron to retrofit into being the Vision. But that's all retconned now so who knows.
The reason why this is relevant is that Mrs Raymond was hoping that the Toro that died stupidly pushing a rocket into a volcano wasn't actually Toro but the Human Torch.
I mean, he was brainwashed into thinking he was the Human Torch so why not just have him be the real guy? Wouldn't that be simpler?
Hank Pym concedes that if the Mad Thinker brought the Human Torch back to life once, he'd probably be able to do it again. And then he could have brainwashed him into thinking he was Toro who had been brainwashed into thinking he was the Human Torch.
Whoa, it stopped being simpler.
Hank points out that even if the Toro that died was actually Jim Hammond, that doesn't really answer where the hell Thomas Raymond has been for years.
Mrs Raymond begs Hank to help her find out what happened to her husband (pretty sure he cannonballed into a volcano) and Hank agrees to try.
So while Wasp leads Mrs Raymond to a guest room to get some rest, Hank makes some calls to the Avengers East Coast Island.
Namor (still hanging around after the Lava Men and Negative Zone stuff, I guess) confirms Mrs Raymond's story. Insofar as Namor fighting a fiery dude who claimed to be the Human Torch but then claimed to be Toro.
The exiled Prince of Abslantis says that his memory may not be reliable due to all the amnesia he's been through but he was pretty sure the dude who claimed to be Toro was Toro. And the fact that Thomas Raymond went missing after Toro dove into a volcano does seem to confirm that.
Lotta talking in this comic.
Have the West Coast Avengers West Coast done any superheroing since Byrne took over?
Now, granted, helping this lady get closure is pretty super-heroic but it doesn't feel like the Avengers West Coast are a superhero team anymore. 90% of what they've dealt with in the Byrne run has been Wanda Vision drama. And when they're not dealing with that, they're just sitting around.
Meanwhile, the Avengers East Coast keep going on wacky adventures. And even the Great Lakes Avengers are up to more than the Avengers West Coast are.
If the Avengers West Coast were going off on missions and adventures, they may have noticed Tigra being weird before the situation deteriorated and came to Hank shrinking her down and putting her in a terrarium.
Oh, by the way, he put her in a terrarium.
Consistent with Hank's problem solving ethic lately, he doesn't seem to have any real urgency to do anything about this.
She attacked him so he shrank her. He needed to put her somewhere while he figured out what to do with her so he put her in a terrarium. And he doesn't actually want to look after her so he rigged it with a bunch of alarms.
Hank mentions that Tigra's cat aspect is in ascendency and US Agent nods and says that explains all the cat-like behavior he observed that nobody else did.
Wonder Man: "? You know about this? Why didn't you tell anyone?"
US Agent: "I was busy. Watch your tone, Williams. I don't have to explain myself to you. I answer only to the United State government."
Wonder Man: "Guess again, Stripes! You're an Avenger now! We didn't want you, but to avoid further government interference in our business, we've been forced to take you. And you are gonna learn that being an Avenger means being responsible to all the other members! We don't even know where you are half the time!"
US Agent: "Where I am is on your need-to-know list only when you can see me, Wonder Man! The rest of the time you don't have the security clearance to know any more than I chose to tell you. And I chose to tell you nothing!"
US Agent isn't just not a team player, he's functionally not even on the team.
He just lives in the same place as they do but he's coming and going as he pleases and doesn't really interact with the Avengers.
Wonder Man is about ready to deck US Agent in the schnozz which I, at least, would enjoy but Wasp breaks up the fight.
Since Wasp got Mrs Raymond settled, Hank goes to talk to Wanda and Vision and tells them that if Jim Hammond was buried at that funeral it pretty much completely disproves the idea that Vision was ever Human Torch.
Vision is game to pursuing the lead but he is confused because more needs to be retconned. See, he was recognized as the Torch by a Sentinel and by the ghost of the original Torch.
What does that meeeeeean?
Hank suggests that the Sentinel was just mistaken because its primary function is to find mutants, not identify androids.
As for that Ghost Human Torch... well, that's suspect isn't it? The Ghost Human Torch was in the Legion of the Unliving with Ghost Wonder Man, before Wonder Man was retconned to have been in a kind of stasis, not dead. Plus, Immortus was involved. He seems to be involved a lot.
Hank wonders aloud why Immortus would have gone to such length to make Vision think he was the Human Torch.
Immortus happens to be watching on his time monitors.
Immortus: "You are only now beginning to see the culmination of a plan set in motion long, long ago. A plan which, when it achieves fruition, will make Immortus truly that which I have always claimed to be... THE ABSOLUTE MASTER OF TIME ITSELF!"
Yes but do you have a TARDIS?
Meanwhile, at the Anvil Pictures offices, Martin Preston, studio boss, is lurking in his office musing how everything he's done up to this point has been fruitless. But being trapped in Mephisto's realm has made things clear to him.
Martin Preston: "Let the Avengers count the hours of their last days! When next we meet, it will be MASTER PANDEMONIUM who is triumphant!"
Oh, hey, this guy.
I knew he was in show-biz but I thought he was an actor. He runs a big movie company? Good for him. Shame about all the cursed future knowledge I have.
Also, he looks different than last we saw him. And his powers seem to be different. While gloating to no one that he'll beat up the Avengers, he turns his arm into a demon arm.
But Master Pandemonium turns his arms into whole-ass demons. An entire demon pulled out of his sleeve like a very impressive magic show.
Turning his arm demon-y but not turning it into an entire demon that just pops off and goes to do its thing just isn't as goofy. I cannot approve of it.
Later, the Avengers West Coast land in Pleasantville. Hank Pym goes to talk to the mayor to get permission to exhume the Human Torch.
The mayor is having difficulty with this request because he doesn't even know where to start to approve exhuming a grave that doesn't exist on record for a cemetery that closed thirty years before the grave that doesn't exist was dug there.
Meanwhile, Wasp, Wonder Man, Vision, and Scarlet Witch preemptively find the Human Torch's grave.
And, yeah, the gravestone says Human Torch instead of Jim Hammon.
Vision decides to intangible into the coffin to check if Jim Hammond, Human Torch, really is buried here.
Wasp and Wonder Man find this distasteful. To just intrude on someone's grave like that...
But Vision is able to report a body that looks like Jim Hammond and hasn't decomposed the way a meat body would.
Wanda asks, okay so there's a Human Torch-looking guy buried here. So, what? What are we going to do about it?
Wonder Man says they have to wait for Hank to get permission to exhume the grave.
Scarlet Witch: "The Scarlet Witch will not be bound by human bureaucracy!"
Then she blows up the grave.
Okay, okay.
The explosion is more like a streak of flame erupting into the skies. Wonder Man flies off to see if that is the Human Torch.
Also, Wasp takes note of Wanda specifying human bureaucracy.
Meanwhile again, back at the Avengers West Coast Compound.
Lauren Timm, Billy and Tommy's governess, has lost the children. Again. She didn't tell Wanda when it happened the first time because Wanda has obtained a reputation for firing governesses at the drop of a hat and dammit Lauren needs this job!
While she's looking for Billy and Tommy, the skies suddenly goes dark and Agatha Harkness appears at the door, announcing that she's here to help with "your most difficult charges..."
Hi, Agatha. Didn't you die?
Oh, well, never keeps you down long.
Back over at the A-plot, if a plot is what you could call it, Wonder Man chases down the robot Human Torch.
He yells to the very confused robot man that he's a friend and wants to help him so the Torch stops and is like a friend, neat.
The robot Human Torch hasn't heard of the Avengers. He's barely heard of the Fantastic Four, remembering them simply as "four people with fantastic powers" from his last stint at being alive.
But he comes back with Wonder Man.
It seems like there could be an awkward moment introducing the Human Torch to the Vision, what with all the maybe history that might be between them.
But the Vision doesn't have the emotional capacity to have robo-angst (which makes him the worst Vision. Robo-angst is Vision's thing!) and nobody gives a shit about Wanda giving the Human Torch the stink-eye for existing.
Nobody gives a shit about Wanda is this run's thing.
The Torch feels like he knows Vision, which makes their maybe history even more confusing based on what we currently know.
And Hank Pym decides to Explain It All. Back at the Avengers West Coast Compound.
FOR SOME REASON, HE STARTS WITH NOVA.
No, not the space one. Er, I mean, not THAT space one, with the helmet. Frankie Raye. Who was Johnny Storm Human Torch's girlfriend with a dark secret and the dark secret turned out to be that she had fire power. And then she went into space to date Galactus.
INCREDIBLY WEIRD CHARACTER ARC.
Anyway, Frankie told the Fantastic Four that Professor Horton was her step-father. Creator of the robot Human Torch Professor Horton. And he was downright miffed when the human Human Torch started his career.
Horton took Frankie to a warehouse to show her all his robot Human Torch creating aparatus and then Frankie spilled chemicals all over herself.
Somehow the chemicals set her on fire without hurting her and she became a female Human Torch but she went by Nova. And then she went off to go mack on Galactus.
Wanda asks the very pertinent question of what the fuck this has to do with anything.
So Hank says his best guesstimate er scientific theory is that Ultron made Vision out of the leftover Human Torch creating molds and chemicals. And that's why that Sentinel identified Vision as being the same age as the Torch AND why Hank himself recognized parts of Vision as World War 2 vintage AND that's why Vision seems familiar to the real, true, actual, no foolin' robot Human Torch.
Vision was made out of Human Torch spare parts!
IT ALL MAKES SENSE!
Except for the part where Professor Horton claimed that Vision wasn't his work. And you'd think he'd recognize the components if they were just shit from his warehouse.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT IT ALL MAKES SENSE SHUT UP.
I'll give the retcon this much.
It TRIES to thread the needle between leaving robot Human Torch available to be brought back and still having Vision's origin Human Torch adjacent.
I think. That if the set-up had been framed differently, it would be less aggravating.
If instead of hammering in that all of Vision's backstory was lies and having Professor Horton show up to point at Vision and go 'the fuck is this??', if the Human Torch's resurrection was what prompted the questions into Vision's origin. That I think would go over better.
Anyway, Wasp declares this retcon is stupendous and very believable. And gives Hank a congratulatory kiss, which he reacts to by abashedly protesting "Ja-a-an...!"
You two are too old to be acting like high school sweeties. And too divorced.
Anyway again, Wasp predicted that this would somehow end in the Human Torch's resurrection. I DON'T KNOW HOW. WASP JUST KNOWS.
SHE MADE JIM HAMMOND ROBOT HUMAN TORCH A COSTUME.
JUST IN CASE.
My theory is that she looked at the roster box on the cover and saw the Human Torch there.
Because he is.
Resurrected and included in the roster box on the cover. Foregone conclusion.
Wasp invites him to the Avengers, without really asking him if he wants to be. He does want to be but what an assumption. He might want to spend some time getting used to the modern world or looking for old friends. Maybe look into Professor Horton.
But Wasp knows things. She saw the roster box. He's gonna be on the team.
US Agent seconds the sentiment and turns it into an actual invite and Jim Hammond accepts.
He even gets an echo of Vision crying and pretending he's not when he was invited to join, all those issues ago.
I was prepared to give credit for the subtle allusion except on the next page Wasp makes it a blatant reference.
Wasp: "Hey, don't go all macho on us now, Torch! This is the 80's! Men are allowed to show their emotions now. Why... I guess you'd say even an android can cry!"
Stop trying to make you not my favorite character, Wasp.
... Oh my god. In the panel where Wasp says the thing, Hank and Jim are standing right next to each other and they're the same person.
-points accusingly- SAME FACE SYNDROME.
Brave artistic choice to put these two people on the same team when you can't tell them apart except by clothes.
Jim Hammond doesn't get to enjoy the warm fuzzies of joining a superhero team again because they're interrupted by the sound of someone circling the building overhead.
After months away from the team due to that whole awkward international criminal thing,
Yay!
This is getting to be a pretty big superhero team for a team that doesn't do anything.
US Agent, Wonder Man, Wasp, Dr Hank Pym, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Robot Human Torch, Tigra, maybe Iron Man.
Maybe the reason they haven't been doing anything is because crime, all of crime, looked at that lineup and went 'no thank you.'
Anyway.
Bringing back the Human Torch is pretty blatantly what Byrne wanted to do all along. The path to get there was painful and badly written. The path to get it done was the same.
I mean, one of the oldest heroes in Marvel and he's resurrected because Wanda blows up his grave in a fit of pique? That's his grand return? Sheesh.
Still, I'm trying to be open-minded. I want to see how Jim fits in with the team. How he interacts, who he meshes and clashes with.
Wanda seems pissed at his existence. Surely that will lead to good material.
Is Iron Man rejoining the team? I hope so. I like Iron Man. I want to see him walk into the situation that the Avengers West Coast are in and react like 'i was gone maybe ten minutes!'
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The Human Torch
Do you like fire? Do you like comic characters? Do you like comic characters who can set themselves on fire? Well then this is the post for you! Welcome to the Marvel Comics Human Torches Crash Course for beginners.
Golden Age
Jim Hammond
Aka: The Human Torch, The Original Human Torch, The Human Reactor, The Synthetic Man, Firebug
Jim Hammond is one of Marvel’s oldest heroes. Created in the Golden Age by Carl Burgos he first appears in Marvel Mystery Comics (1939) #1
Bio: Jim Hammond is an Android, he was created in a lab by Professor Phineas T. Horton who used his creation of ‘Horton Cells’ to make a synthetic human with his own free will. Jim was debuted before reporters but when his glass tube was uncovered he promptly burst into flames, the Horton Cells exposure to oxygen caused this reaction and also caused the people to cry out for the Android's destruction. Instead Horton buries Hammond underground with the intention of recovering his creation later, however after several years a crack had formed in the Torches concrete prison and oxygen reacted with Jim’s body allowing him to burst into flames once more, and so he escaped. Jim spent the next years using his powers to help people, he fights in WWll with the Invaders. Jim is deactivated or destroyed throughout the comics, and comes back by being rebuilt or reactivated. Jim takes in Toro as his ward after the boy is orphaned. Throughout the years Jim tries to find his place in humanity, he serves on different teams and becomes CEO of Oracle Inc. He also joins SHIELD. As of the comic Squadron Supreme (2016) #14 Jim’s torch powers were taken away and he has since called himself the Human Reactor in reference to a second set of powers he gained over the years that remained when he could no longer produce flames.
Comic Fact: In the comics it was revealed that Jim Hammond was the one who killed Hitler during WWll by using his flame powers. Jim Hammond also was part of the first crossover in comic history when he battled Namor the Sub-Mariner in Marvel Mystery Comic (1939) #8. Jim loves cats and often adopts them.
The character is often associated with that of Frankenstein’s Monster, the first of his kind and his journey for his place in the world. He wants to be human, though he knows he is not, and strongly identifies with Pinocchio. His hope of proving himself “brave, truthful, and unselfish” will someday make him more human is what he strives for. Jim often wondered if he has a soul since he is an Android. He has often been referred to as the heart of the Invaders, both Namor and Steve Rogers says that Jim is the best man they have ever known.
Chronological listing of Jim Hammond’s appearance in Marvel Comics Link
Essential Reading:
Marvel Mystery Comics (1939) - Golden Age comics
The Human Torch (1940) - Golden Age comics
Saga of the Original Human Torch (1990) - History of the Human Torch
Marvels (1994) #0 - Origin story.
Avengers/Invaders (2008) - Torch is sent to the future with the other Invaders
Human Torch 70th Anniversary special (2009) - Short story & Toro retelling
Marvel Mystery Comics 70th Anniversary (2009)
The Torch (2009) - Excellent Miniseries. Highly recommended!
All New Invaders (2014) - Modern Invaders
Squadron Supreme (2016) - Jim becomes the Human Reactor after losing his fire powers in #14
You can also find Jim in other comics such as Invaders Now, New Invaders, Invaders and All-Winners Comics.
Toro
Aka: The Flaming Kid, sidekick to the Human Torch, Thomas Raymond, Human Torch
Toro is one of the earliest sidekicks in comics. Created by Carl Burgos and debuting in Human Torch Comics (1940) #2
Bio: Toro’s parents were assistants of Professor Horton, The Human Torch visits the family for information and later Toro’s parents are targeted and killed in a train wreck. Toro survives because of his newly found abilities to create fire from his body just like the Torch. Jim discovers Toro has made a name for himself in the circus after his parents are killed in a train wreck and is targeted by a villain, he takes Toro as his sidekick and they go on to have many adventures, and he also fought with the Invaders during WWll. Toro never officially takes the title of The Human Torch, but during the Sub-Mariner (1968) #14 Toro is brainwashed by the Mad Thinker and his dark hair is dyed blonde in order to make the world believe that he is Jim Hammond, the truth is revealed and Toro dies fighting the Mad Thinker. During Avengers/Invaders Toro is revealed to be a Mutant and thus the reason for him being able to create flames was because his mutant gene was activated early, before then only explanation for his abilities was exposure to the ‘Horton cells’. He is revived in Avengers/Invaders by Bucky Barnes who using the Cosmic Cube to bring his friend back to life. Toro then goes on trying to make a new life for himself in the future, he is reunited with his old friend the Original Human Torch. As of the comic All New Invaders, Toro is now an Inhuman and his abilities are being able to create and manipulate chemical and elemental transformations in his body and the air around him.
Comic Fact: Toro is the only Invader to survive the war and the period following mentally and physically stable. He grows up and marries before he is killed in Prince Namor, the Sub-Mariner (1968) #14. Toro is also the childhood best friend of James ‘Bucky’ Barnes.
Toro has more in common with Johnny Storm than he does with Jim since he also received his powers by accident and unintentionally. As the youngest member of his group he is often seen as too young or immature, his fiery personality and quick come backs make it hard for him to keep his cool when it comes to decision making. Toro looks up to Jim as a father figure and as a friend.
Chronological listing of Thomas Raymond’s appearances in Marvel Comics Link
Essential reading:
The Human Torch (1940)
Human Torch 70th Anniversary special (2009)
The Torch (2009)
Avengers/Invaders (2008)
All New Invaders (2014)
Young Allies 70th Anniversary Special (2009)
Toro can often be found with Jim in his comics. Since his reveal as an Inhuman Toro spends his time within the Inhuman comics. He shows up in Squadron Supreme with the Inhuman King Black Bolt.
Silver Age
Johnny Storm
Aka: The Human Torch, Matchstick, Flamebrain, Torchie, Blaze, Firebug
Now this is one Torch that I am sure you know! The most famous of them all, the fantastic Johnny Storm. Created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby and debuting in Fantastic Four (1961) #1 and based on Carl Burgos’s Torch, Johnny Storm has been blazing through the comics since the early 60′s.
Bio: Johnny Storm is the youngest member of the Fantastic Four. He gains his powers when he and the other members of the Four go into space and are exposed to Cosmic Radiation. Younger brother of Susan Storm (now Susan Richards) The Invisible Woman. The Fantastic Four are Marvel’s first family and their introduction to comics ushered in a new era of story telling. Although Johnny started off a high school super hero his journey from a young hero and Johnny played up his new found celebrity status. His adventures with the Fantastic Four and the challenges and triumphs that came with being with his family helped him grow into the character he is today.
Comic Fact: Johnny Storm was the first member of the Fantastic Four to get his own solo title in Strange Tales (#101 - 134) less than one year after his comic debut! In the comics the Human Torch and Spider-Man are best friends.
Johnny Storm is the only Human Torch to be featured in other modern media such as movies and cartoons. Johnny loves his family and seeing him with his niece and nephew is one of my favorite things.
Chronological listing of Johnny Storm’s appearances in Marvel Comics Link
Essential Reading:
I am not well read in all of Johnny’s comics so here are some people that are!
Johnny Storm Comic Rec List provided by the amazing @traincat
A Beginner’s Guide to Johnny Storm by @fyeahspideytorch
So there you have it! No matter which Human Torch is your favorite each one brings something unique to the title and all are card carrying members of the “Human Torch vs Namor the Sub-Mariner” club. One of my favorite team ups is when all three Human Torches come together to battle the Sub-Mariner in The Torch (2009) #5:
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