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bennett-mikealson · 1 month
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TVD Stans are so dismissive with Bonnies trauma. Why are you expecting her to show mercy to people who have done her wrong???? Then try to gaslight Bonnie stans into thinking that her actions in retaliation to people causing her trauma aren't justified. WHAT????
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hyperactivewhore · 7 months
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I find it weird when people don't admit the Mikaelson are lowkey racists and that they keep dismissing and treating people who don't share their blood like shit.
Like, Klaus mocked his adoptive son whip wounds and they all lived in the plantation where Marcel lived as a slave, not to talk about the way Elijah was always talking him down and how Freya and Kol acted with his existence: she didn't give a damn about him, suggesting they should kill him and Kol probably was just jealous, if I'm being honest, but my point still remains. And after Elijah killed Marcel, Hayley had the nerve to act as if he wasn't as important as Hope (of course, the biological white daughter she shares with Klaus) and then they proceded to fuck after hearing him confess his blame.
Like, what the hell? I don't think the Mikaelson are the kind of people who actually insult you based in your skin color, but they never failed to act as white saviors and to play the victim whenever someone tried to kill them, as if they hadn't made absolutely everyone completely miserable.
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cancerian-woman · 9 months
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Caroline offers the least in terms of storytelling and that’s who they chose to push in every plot not Elena(who was written in to serve Damon only) but is a Petrova doppelgänger & Bonnie the witch from a powerful bloodline…
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k8lynjoy · 20 days
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Pro-Damon arguments have always been pretty stupid imo, but an argument I've been seeing a lot more of recently is people saying that they prefer Damon to Stefan- both as a character and as a love interest for Elena- because "Damon was aware that he was a monster whereas Stefan pretended that he wasn't", and I have got to say, this is such a brain dead take.
Let's start by addressing the first part of the claim, that Damon's self-awareness inherently makes him better. No. Believe it or not, being self-aware does not make you a good person, it's what you do with that awareness that does. What does Damon do with his self-awareness? Absolutely nothing. He whines and cries about how much of a monster he is and how he can't change whenever anyone tries to hold him accountable for anything, or he just puts the blame on Katherine or his mother because "they didn't wuv him 🥺👉🏻👈🏻". So, he recognizes that he's a bad person, but then he proceeds to continue to be a bad person anyway...I'm not seeing how this is a good- or even a respectable- thing. Damon also doesn't care! He enjoys murdering and r*ping people. How does someone knowing they're a bad person, and then doing nothing to be better, make them a better person? It doesn't. The logic of that argument is non-existent. And to then go on and say that this is why Elena should choose him?? Why? How does Elena begging Damon to just stop being horrible, and then him responding with "I'm a monster, I'll never change" scream "I'm someone you should be with"?? There's a reason she told him he was the worst choice she would ever make.
Now, for the second part of the claim, which states that Stefan pretends that he is a good person when really, he's a monster. Once again: no. Tell me you don't have general comprehension skills without telling me because Stefan's desperation to hold onto his humanity and morality are very central parts of his character. He recognizes that he's done horrible things and takes full accountability for them. Whenever Elena asks him a question about his past, he's honest with her. He doesn't hide things from her, downplay them, or push the blame onto someone else (and if someone tries to bring up him not initially telling her he was a vampire, I will scream. Because duh! Why would he just be like, "Hey, I'm Stefan, I'm a vampire, nice to meet you!"? Please be serious) He's said the words "I am/was a monster" multiple times on screen - same as Damon - the difference between the two of them is that Stefan does something about it. Stefan trying to be a better person is not him pretending he's never done bad things. It's him trying to atone for all of the bad things that he has done. So, when he says that he's not Damon, It's true! Because he does everything Damon doesn't do when it comes to facing the consequences of his actions. Which also winds up forcing him to face the consequences of Damon's actions as well!
Only in the TVD fandom will you see people say that the guy who actively does the wrong thing in every scenario and who revels in being the bad guy is better than the guy who hates the part of himself that does horrible things and puts all of his effort into being a better person simply because guy #1 is "self-aware".
I hate it here.
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viavolterra · 2 months
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I am so sorry for all the unwarranted hate you and your friends are getting
i dont think theyre FAMILIAR with sanity, they call you bullies but send death threats jumping in a worse BOAT1
and on their pages they act LOVELY hiding behind these anonymous messages like cowards
its just terrible AND PROBLEMATIC.....
THIS SENT MEEEEEE💀💀💀 girl we been knew
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in a world of insane caroline stans
just love this angel UGH SHES SO PRETTY
BON BON TOO
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fieldsofwax · 9 months
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Will never understand the needless morality logic Stefan stans place around their love for Stefan (which only ever seems to exist to hate on Damon). I will always prefer a man that kills for an emotional reason over a man that kills just due to the lust to kill. Bloodlust is a desire just as much as “I killed him because I wanted to”-Damon always kills for humanity/emotional reasons. It’s just that stefan denies that bloodlust is a desire, while Damon admits his desire. Will always prefer a man that owns his flaws instead of denies them. I guess it’s my personal emotional bias, that denial of flaws imo is less redeemable than reveling in one’s flaws (Damon). Denial of flaws (and looking down on other’s) is the whole basis of the Christian white supremacist b.s. I’ve lived under my whole life.
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icepandawarrior · 2 months
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It's 2024, and I am more than tired of hearing this weak ass take. I've seen it on Twitter, Instagram, and damn Tik Tok.
"Cami is just a Caroline clone."
"Klaus was only interested in Cami because she looked like Caroline."
SHEEP AND PARROTS IN THE TVDU FANDOM COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE !!!!
You've all been saying this lame shit since 2014, and I wasn't invested in the damn franchise back then. If Cami wasn't blonde, y'all wouldn't be saying a damn thing about how she's trying to be like Caroline. Rebekah, Mary Louise, and Liv are also blondes, but you don't pull that shit with them...
Y'all have this weird entitlement thing going on where Caroline is the messiah of everything and its existence. And anyone who dares disagree or call her out or let alone breathe around her (or the guy she's interested in at the moment) is suddenly beneath her. But hey, "girls support girls," or you're misogynistic...
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hydesjackiespuddinpop · 9 months
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Tyler is the bad guy for wanting revenge? Yeah, let’s overlook the fact that Caroline basically made Tyler choose between their relationship and his agency. What a great gf.
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incorrect quotes from the tvdu : source - fright night (2011)
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vicontheinternet · 2 years
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the fact that ppl could forgive both elena and stefan for zeroing in on their hate for they specific big bads when they turned their humanity came back on but not tyler for “abandoning caroline” when klaus literally ruined his life, killed his mom and pack is beyond me. even going as far to say it wasn’t none of his business, they’d do it too or that he had no right to get mad at caroline for sleeping with klaus is weird because they have no problem with everyone putting their morals on the line for elena especially because he killed jenna and elena but isn’t ok for tyler because caroline was being a “#girlboss 😛🤪”
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Damon & Elena, exchanging vows:
Pastor: If anyone objects, speak now or forever hold your peace.
Kai, stands both hands on hips: This is absolutely disgusting, you all should be ashamed of yourselves.
Caroline: *jaw drops*
Bonnie: *rolls eyes*
Stefan: *tries to conceal loud cackle*
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bennett-mikealson · 7 months
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I said this already to someone’s post on the TVD Reddit but I wanna speak on it again since “the Bonnie Stan’s make everything about race”debacle continues to come around.
The writers and TVD Stan’s one who originally made things about race in regard to Bonnie. They ostracized and disrespected Bonnie Stans/Kat throughout the entirety of the shows running (which went on for 8+ years). So when Bonnie Stans now have an inherent belief that it is possible for someone’s dislike for Bonnie to be rooted in racism don’t blame it on Bonnie Stan’s blame it on the writers and the fans who continuously, harassed and mistreated Kat/Bonnie bc the racist belief wouldn’t be pushed upon people who disliked Bonnie had the fans, and the writers not been acting the way that they were to begin with. 
Bonnie’s mistreatment will always be rooted in racism whether you wanna believe it or not and if you have a problem with Bonnie Stan’s bringing it up then maybe you need some reevaluating to do within yourself or simply ignore Bonnie Stan’s.
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xeyesofstardust · 1 year
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Oh good grief!
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Why is it that I always come across these types of Stelena stans? The ones that presume I am attacking them and their character.
If you don't know I was just saying that Damon has a point when he gave his "I don't want to live up to everyone's expectations" and sometimes you have to be the bad guy because live doesn't always give absolutely everyone the ability to be nice or even good every single day.
Life is more complicated than a lot of Stelena's want to acknowledge. You don't always get to be the good guy in your life story, sometimes you have to be like Damon (metaphorically speaking of course) and be the bad guy and there's nothing you can do about it.
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melmedardasworld · 1 year
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Always so funny to me when tvdu fandom understand heightened emotions except for when it comes to Tyler Lockwood. Hybrids have like heightened emotions x 1000, look at Klaus, Hayley, Jackson.... no one calls them angry or annoying as much as I see them call out and villainize Tyler.
Like, even the humanity switch is often used as a excuse (bs imo) to provide context of the shitty things done by Stefan, Enzo, Elena, Caroline etc. and funny thing is Tyler never even shut it off (when he had all the reason to) and still (rightfully) wanted his revenge, but he's treated as if he's supposed to suck it all up, be this bigger person, and just get over it all.
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blairwaldcrf · 2 years
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there's a meta to be had about how delena began romantic feelings during their stark power imbalance when she was just a human girl he could physically control (and did often when stefan didn't/couldn't intervene). Elena didn't try to be with him romantically until both her physical (human) and mental (sire bond) weakness were fixed, sure, but the very beginnings are still rooted in that
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bamon, which only had a few episodes where Bonnie could not only overpower him physically with her magic. Not only can she, but she DOES so, multiple times, once almost murdering him. she barely considers him an ally until they're trapped in the prison world together, 4?ish? years after they've met. they wouldn't begin to have anything remotely on the grounds of what could eventually be romantic until over 6+yrs later
like, don't get me wrong, damon is a flawed character in every sense and has done horrible things to both of these girls' friends and families. disregarding even that, bonnie is always mistreated and used repeatedly to save the white vampires. im not saying *either* of these is healthy even by tvd standards. it's just a shame that Plec/Dries+co could let Stefan evolve into the mature post highschool non-Elena choice and not consider letting Bonnie have the second lead love interest as well (since we didn't get baroline)
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I literally just gave reasons why people may not like Elena Gilbert. Literally just said that there was no argument I was trying to make. I was met with this BS.
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