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loststarsabove · 1 year

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1. This is quite possibly the worst episode of the show so far and I wish I could bleach it from my brain forever.

2. Genuine question. Did the writers actually hate Rumbelle? Because it sure seems like it.

3. I am not here for the Belle & Hook friendship. (Bring back Ruby)

4. I love Karen David.

#i am seriously thinking about skipping the rest of this season #once upon a time #rumbelle #belle french #rumplestiltskin #ouat s6 #ouat 6x04 #strange case #anti ouat writers

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littleblackraincloudofcourse · 8 months

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So this is not to comment on either side of the Marina vs Penelope/Lady Whistledown argument. That would be an extremely long and detailed rant that I might do later. I will say that both Ruby Barker and Nicola Coughlan seem wonderful and I have nothing negative to say about either of them (and wish to hear nothing negative of either)! This is simply because the antis are ramping up again and I keep coming across a certain video. There is one phrase people have been quoting and I cannot keep myself from saying this anymore. You are all incorrect because you can, in fact, "Disneyfy a Dichhead". *Murder, Kidnapping, Manipulation/Mind Control,Torture even Sexual Assault have all forgiven and sometimes, at least seemingly, forgotten. The worst villans have been given a redemption arc and considered good or even heroic by the end and it all started with a new look and Tale of True Love.

Whats truly insane is that It Worked! It worked so well that it ran for SEVEN season!

FOR FUCKS SAKE, It only ended 5 years ago. There was even a one season spinoff with a complete story!

And this was all done on ABC with Disney characters portrayed as adults. So maybe we're all being a little hard on the teenagers in Netflix's regency Shondaland.

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heddagab · 10 months

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2x08: Characters are communicating through different worlds and rely on Rumple's expertise, trusting him to get them through whatever's going on without question

After s3: yOu CaN't TrUsT rUmPlE, hE's ThE wOrSt EvEn WhEn He'S nOt (source: because I said so)

#anti ouat #the way you can literally see characters behaving like dumbasses because the writers started not caring about their charactrisation #heartbreaking and infuriating

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kyliafanfiction · 7 days

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I loathe how 1x11 makes Leopold seemingly perfect, and we never really get a look at any other side of the story.

#Couldn't we at least get *one* flashback of him forcing Regina to do something #Some appreciation for the reality of what situation she was in #Rolling My Eyes #Anti-OUAT Writers #Kylia Watches OUAT #Anti-Leopold White

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swans-chirping-in-the-distance · 11 months

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welcome to your new home :D

○ Christian ○ call me bee or bug ○ she/ her ○ infp-t writer ○ azaleas, picrews, and sims ○ wattpad is keeperofthelostsleep ○ no smut, y/n, or x readers ○ singer, writer, reader, photographer (of inanimate objects) ○ I always try to be nice ○

main things I like:

○ kotlc ○ pjo/ hoo (book) ○ pjo (show) ○ 12 monkeys (show) ○ teen wolf (show) ○ merlin (bbc) ○ ouat in wonderland ○ psych (2006) ○ charmed (og) ○ haven (syfy) ○ mitski ○ indila ○

some other things:

○ tpq (aru shah) ○ sisters grimm ○ willow falls ○ sxf (manga) ○ elementary ○ asoue (show) ○ ouat (not s7) ○ clone wars (show) ○ paf ○ eah ○ (some) marvel ○ stranger things ○ pll (show) ○ clue (og movie) ○ aladdin (og movie) ○ disney (just some of the princess movies, like anastasia and brave) ○ occasionally some myths (usually starring women ○

major fandom thoughts:

kotlc- sokeefe shipper; stitz shipper; dexiana shipper; tiana shipper; keefe and fitz defender; lover of platonic sokeefitz; firm believer that dex and linh aren't cinnamon rolls and that tam isn't emo, overdramatic, or a cold person

pjo/hoo- lover of rachel; hater of how rick wrote calypso; number one percy jackson defender; lover of grover underwood

12m- lover of the entire cast. they're all perfect "they murdered-" hush.

tw- anti steter or sterek; shipper of both stydia and stalia; shipper of both scira and scallison; lover of kira yukimura; defender of derek's pack trio also a lover of the beta group>>>

m(bbc)- huge freylin and gwenthur shipper; lover of arthur pendragon; lover of all of the cast just especially arthur

og charmed- lover of prue halliwell; hater of phoebe halliwell; lover of cole turner; lover of chris halliwell; hater of the charmed sisters in later seasons (they're super rude, but I like some of the development)

haven (syfy)- nathan is literally awesome; DUKE. MY LOVE. GET THERAPY. AND HUGS. AND THERAPY.; audrey and audrey are both fun, better when nice to duke

mitski- be the cowboy>>>>

indila- ainsi ba la vida and ego>>>>

tags:

kits4!- kotlc in the sims. lmk ab your hcs. any hcs are welcome. probably gonna raise their grandparents bcz I'm too deep in this family tree lol

kap!au- kotlc in pjoverse and pjo in kotlcverse. may or may not write it out.

twilomiwb- mainly kotlc writing kinda stuff but not fics usually

#kits4!#kap!au #twilomiwb #hmys?lhrn #tiwtr-vc

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iamstartraveller776 · 6 months

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20 Questions for Fic Writers

Snagged this from @curator-on-ao3!

1. How many works do you have on AO3?:

110. However, if I count the oneshots individually, it's actually 152. (This does not include 4 other stories that are archived on old Trek sites. This also does not include the 5 stories that I've moved to the Anonymous collection.)

2. What's your total AO3 word count?:

613,518

3. What fandoms do you write for?

Star Trek: TOS/AOS/Disc

Star Trek: Enterprise

Labyrinth (1986)

Marvel Cinematic Universe

Once Upon a Time

Shadow and Bone

Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power

(I also briefly dabbled with Tom Hiddleston and David Bowie RPF back in the day—the stuff that's in the Anonymous archive).

4. What are your top 5 fics by kudos?

The Princess and the King (Labyrinth, Jareth and Sarah, T)

Text Alert (MCU, Loki/Jane Foster, T)

Intoxicated [Rewritten] (Star Trek, Sarek/Amanda Grayson, T)

Drunk Dial (Labyrinth, Jareth/Adult Sarh, T)

Touch (MCU, Loki/Jane Foster, T)

5. Do you respond to comments? Why or why not?

Yes. Sometimes it takes me a while to reply, but I always try to. I'm so grateful to anyone who takes the time to leave me a comment. (Also, I'm a 20 year fandom veteran, and back in the day it was considered the norm to reply to comments.)

6. What's the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending?

I write a lot of oneshots, so there are quite a few with unhappy endings, lol. What comes to mind is Honor Above All Else (OUAT, Robin Hood/Regina Mills, G). OH WAIT. No, it's got to be Just a Dream (Labyrinth, Jareth/Adult Sarah, M).

7. What's the fic you wrote with the happiest ending?

Maybe Three Months on Vulcan (Star Trek ENT, Trip/T'Pol, T)?

8. Do you get hate on fics?

Only once. Back in the day, there were some antis who were super offended when we kept shipping Regina and Robin Hood (OUAT) when his wife came back from the dead (which turned out not to be his wife). Someone left a review on a fic that I was supporting infidelity and I was a horrible person. I deleted the comment. Ain't nobody got time for trolls. ;)

9. Do you write smut? If so, what kind?

I have very, very few M-rated stories. Usually I just pan to the sky, but when I don't, it's because I feel it serves the story somehow and it's generally more poetry and emotion than descriptions of the mechanics.

10. Do you write crossovers? What's the craziest one you've written?

Only twice. The funnest one is When Fairy Tale Meets Mythology (OUAT/MCU, Loki/Jane Foster, Emma Swan/Killian Jones, T).

11. Have you ever had a fic stolen?

Not that I'm aware of, but these days, I wouldn't be surprised.

12. Have you ever had a fic translated?

I was asked a couple of times, but never got the links of the finished product. *shrug*

13. Have you ever co-written a fic before?

Oh, yeah. I've done round-robins, fandom Big Bangs, etc. Not recently though.

14. What's your all-time favourite ship?

That's like asking me to pick a favorite child (and I happen to have six of those). You can't make me!

15. What's a WIP you want to finish, but doubt you ever will?

Want to finish but probably won't? Maybe my unfinished Outlaw Queen stories?

16. What are your writing strengths?

Oneshots. I can short-story like a champ.

17. What are your writing weaknesses?

Finishing multi-chapter stories. Ugh.

18. Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language for a fic?

I've done it, though I've tried to keep it to a minimum, making sure it serves a purpose. I also try to make it easy to guess the meaning with context and always, always include the translation in the end notes. OH. And if it's a real language (unlike Vulcan), I try to get the help of a native speaker rather than rely on Google Translate.

19. First fandom you wrote for?

Star Trek: Enterprise.

20. Favourite fic you've ever written?

That's another hard one to pin down. Here, I'll give you my favorite fic for each fandom:

Through the Dark Mirror Series (ST:ENT, Trip/T'Pol, T)*

A New Perspective (ST:TOS/AOS/DISC, Sarek/Amanda, G)

Pertinacious Wills (Labyrinth, Jareth/Adult Sarah, T)*

Touch (MCU, Loki/Jane Foster, T)

Songs Beneath the Stars (OUAT, Emma/Killian, T)

The Worth of a Broken Soul (OUAT, Robin/Regina, T)*

That Which Blooms in Stillness (SAB, Aleksander/Alina, T)

We Are (TROP, Halbrand|Sauron/Galadriel, G)

*Yes, these stories are currently incomplete and on hiatus indefinitely, but that doesn't stop me from loving what I created. I hope to get back to them one day!

Tagging: EVERYONE! If you want to play, consider yourself tagged by me. I'd love to read your answers! ❤️

#fic writer questions #20 fic writer questions #come and play #about me #ask game

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glowyjellyfish · 1 year

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I started rewatching OUAT. Apparently my brain decided it was just time. I considered doing a full liveblog with silly gifs, but that would be a lot more effort than I want to put into it.

1. I know I still have one follower from my OUAT days, but am not sure about anybody else. So to recap: I loved OUAT to pieces and probably put more thought into things like the timeline and side characters than the writers did. And I loved OUAT in Wonderland EVEN MORE and still think they did a better job on that tightly plotted story than meandering on OUAT. I stopped watching mid-season 4, after they did and didn’t do several things to my favorite characters that broke my faith in the quality, but I did keep watching and mostly enjoying through the Frozen arc and the main reason I didn’t continue was just… I never got the urge to watch a new episode again. And then I was glad I stopped when I did, because what little I heard about it sounded increasingly dumb, bonkers, and, in the case of that soft reboot or whatever that was, insulting. I’m only planning to rewatch the first two seasons plus Wonderland, but if I’m enjoying myself I will probably keep going until I am not. Probably making more fun of it than before.

2. My favorites, in rough order of when I glimpse into them, are Graham, Dr. Whale, Neal, and Will. Anyone familiar with the show will probably understand exactly how the show broke my heart. I also love Rumple and Regina, and find the rest of the main cast pretty great, but there is a difference between loving a character and A Favorite.

3. I watched through the first five episodes, and was pleased to find I still liked it, and not only that, I still felt it was pretty good overall. The cheesiest parts so far are the fairy outfits, the CG, the Cinderella parts of the Cinderella episode, and some awkward dialogue when a writer didn’t know how to write old fashioned well. It shines in its characters, and the development of Regina and Rumple has so far been the absolute highlight. Emma has never been particularly high on my list of beloved characters, but she delivers fantastic feelings throughout. I know logically that way too much focus will be given to them down the road, but Snow and Charming are so damn charming and cute. The parallels between the flashbacks and the present day are also really well done, using them for character development. That’s something I think the show fumbled a little with after season 1, and got worse and worse about over time, and I also think it’s something OUATW did EXTREMELY well. But I’ll see how it looks as I watch it.

4. I do wish the show had been a little bit more clear about the town being basically in a time loop, because man what a fucked up place to raise a child. I guess they wanted to pretend it could just be Henry’s imagination for a while there to hedge their bets, but why not have Henry say “I was in the same class as that kid last year and now he’s still 9 and in third grade and I’m 10 now, what more proof do you need??” (And then Regina starts insisting he skipped a grade or something). I’m not anti-Regina at all, but lady you cannot raise a child and have him be the only person that ages and expect him to grow up normal.

5. I was on Regina’s side re Emma not being allowed to come into Henry’s life up until Regina started doing illegal shady shit to try to force Emma to leave. That’s obviously the point, but she really shot herself in the foot.

6. …I feel so bad for Graham. Poor guy. He’s the one sticking point that I wish Regina had ever made up for or felt bad about. She’s super sympathetic until you remember she literally had a sex slave who she then murdered. I mean, she’s the evil Queen, I did not expect her to behave otherwise. They just really wanted to quietly forget about it when they wanted to redeem her. Also, was Graham’s wolf dragged along to the curse—was the wolf cursed, too? Or did the wolf spend 28 years running around the woods, trying to figure out what happened to Graham and why his brother didn’t come to the woods with him anymore? The wolf also made Emma stay in town the first night, so my gut says “the wolf knew what was up”. Ugh, if I was writing the show I would have made Graham’s spirit survive death by going into his wolf and then bring him back later, like a certain wolf-bonded man from another fandom I love, but ugh it’s fine. I feel bad for him, but the character was clearly designed to flirt with Emma and then die.

7. I also think it’s fucking wild that, while cursed, Rumple somehow managed to procure for Regina a child that was both the son of the breaker of the curse and his grandson. I expect it’s a function of the breakability of the curse that Emma’s son was brought in—that perhaps Rumple was aware of that when he was going to lengthy measures to set up a trigger for his memories and everything else. I guess, within what I remember of the show thus far, Henry being his grandson and thus his downfall is the price he’s paying for constructing this elaborate curse manipulating generations of people to get his son back? Idk, we’ll see.

8. So like… if most people are cursed in a specific way that denies them what they love most, and some people definitely had details specifically curated by Regina personally, and Regina also had to go out of her way to make sure and curse Jefferson and Whale, because they weren’t in Fairy Tale Land at the time… well, I’m just wondering whether Whale’s cursed womanizer personality is because it’s amusingly apt for Dr. Frankenstein, or if it’s something Regina designed for him specifically because she saw him as breaking her heart, or something.

9. Not really feeling any ships atm. I never shipped Swan Queen, but periodically a scene between Emma and Regina will make me go “…okay I get it.” In theory I ship Emma/Graham, but mostly I shipped it because I loved him and felt so bad for him. Snow and Charming are precious, but I never found there to be much point in shipping them because they’re so canon, and they’re not the type of couple I find most intriguing. I should note that I was always actively against Emma/Hook, and really Emma/anyone; I wanted her to take more time for herself. I loved Neal, but didn’t particularly care whether he ended up with Emma, and felt that reducing him to a point on a love triangle is what made the writers get rid of him despite there being SO MUCH MORE they could do with him. I used to ship Whale/Ruby, we’ll see how I feel about that this time but I do still believe it was being set up for a while. And I still ship Rumple/Belle and Will/Ana. We’ll get there. I am sort of hoping I will spot new ships to ship as I go along, but perhaps not because I do know how things go for the most part.

And that’s all so far. I really don’t know that anybody will care, but I like giving my little reports if I cannot muster up the wherewithal to actively liveblog.

A few gifs describing Rumple because they amused me:

#ouat

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poptart-cat-78 · 1 year

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I posted 10,538 times in 2022

489 posts created (5%)

10,049 posts reblogged (95%)

Blogs I reblogged the most:

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@i-will-sing-no-requiem

@lostintheskyfaraway

@ts1989fanatic

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I tagged 7,632 of my posts in 2022

Only 28% of my posts had no tags

#taylor swift - 2,093 posts

#ouat - 1,144 posts

#fanart goals - 678 posts

#personal - 501 posts

#textpost - 386 posts

#precious creatures - 385 posts

#otp: the pirate and the princess - 372 posts

#captain swan - 370 posts

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Longest Tag: 97 characters

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My Top Posts in 2022:

#5

Me descending into the rabbit hole that is a ship of a fandom I’m not even in: “this is fine :)”

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#4

So I noticed something, antis of these characters be like-

A lot of people who hate Amy Rose and Marinette have listed the same reasons why theyre a horrible character (i.e “shes annoying”, “her only personality trait is being obsessed over a guy”)

But y’all miss the reasons why they’re great characters actually

-they’re kind and sweet-natured and love their friends dearly

-they’re great leaders (look at Amy in the Archie comics, Ladybug with the other heroes)

-they have been the reasons as to why so many characters change their point of view (Amy with Shadow, E-Alpha 100 in Sonic Adventure 2, and Silver in 06’, Marinette befriending Kagami, Fei and several others)

-can hold their own, they don’t really need a man to save them but fell in love with Sonic/Adrien for their kindness (Amy being saved from Metal Sonic on Little Planet, Adrien giving Marinette the umbrella)

It’s not that they’re horrible characters, the writers need to write them better

34 notes - Posted June 4, 2022

#3

The serotonin I get every time I hear the lyrics “I can still make the whole place

SHIMMER”

48 notes - Posted October 22, 2022

#2

“Nothing can save us forever, but a lot of things can save us today”

-Mae Borowski

IM TELLING YOU THE DIALOGUE IN THIS GAME IS 🔥🔥🔥

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My #1 post of 2022

I finally got to this part in NITW and this speech that Mae gives-

“When I die, I want it to hurt, when my friends leave, when I have to let go, when this entire town is wiped off the map, I want it to hurt. Bad” I want to loose, I want to get beaten up, I want to hold on, until I’m thrown off and everything ends and you know what? Until that happens, I want to hope again and I want it to hurt. Because that means it meant something. It means I am.. Something at least. Petty amazing to be something, at least.”

ALWAYS makes me tear up, even though this game doesn’t have much action, it’s dialogue REALLY packs a punch

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aparticularbandit · 2 years

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3, 17, 19 please!

DEEP FIC WRITER ASKS

3) what fic are you emotionally attached to?

Luisa and the Fox. ...I feel this one might be expected at this point, so I went through and looked at all my other fic and like. Of them all, this is still the one to which I'm the most emotionally attached. >.>;;

17) What’s the best engagement/interaction/feedback you’ve received from someone who’s read your work?

I was actually afraid of getting this question because like. How do you quantify best engagement/interaction/feedback? SO OBVIOUSLY ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS I NEED YOU TO KNOW. FIRST OFF. But actually, I honestly think it is less the comments/etc. than it is, like, getting to know other writers in the different communities and making friends? Which is...the interaction bit? So becoming friends with you and Belle and Cait through Roisa stuff (or Skylar through Agatha stuff) - and like getting to pop into people's DMs or discord or whatever and just rant and ramble about ships AND CAUSE EACH OTHER PAIN is. the best interaction I get from people who have read my stuff. ^^

19) If you could write an ideal fic, what would it include?

Pain, obviously. ;) No, it would - I've reblogged a thing about narrative distance recently, I think - yeah, this post - and my ideal fic would play with the concept of narrator as distinct from character POV so that you've got the narrator who's telling the story to you who can occasionally comment on things or speak directly to you, the reader, without it feeling weird, in a comforting sort of way. But also the ideal fic would employ second person (kind of like in What Dreams May Come with Viola or in Finding Family with Agatha (when she was stuck in Agnes)), which I'm not sure is compatible with that sort of narrative voice.... It would probably include some super in-depth world-building but not, like, Tolkein world-building, but taking our world and making one difference and then extrapolating from there (like with the soulmate timer stuff). It would be queer, but not necessarily lesbians queer (although there would probably be wlw stuff in it, tbh). A lot of angst. A snarky anti-villain turned anti-hero. A woobie destroyer of worlds. Someone who has turned evil because of tragic past reasons. One character could potentially be ALL OF THE ABOVE. Like I have a character type and I acknowledge this. But also you're gonna have the mom friend. Not the happy perky sunspot but the, like. LET ME USE MADOKA AS AN EXAMPLE. THERE WOULD BE A MAMI, THERE WOULD BE A KYOKO, AND THERE WOULD BE A HOMURA. :D ...okay, in ouat terms. There would be a Mary-Margaret Blanchard (but not necessarily Snow; I will maintain they are separate characters and I like MMB better) and there would be a Regina. ...uh, that's missing a character. There would be a Dottie Underwood. She's the closest to a Kyoko parallel. xD Lots of discussions of mental illness. ...potentially different versions of the same character - whether that's multiverse or time travel or clones or etc. (Or it would be a fairytale. Actually, the ideal fic would be a fairytale.) ...I'm gonna stop there. XD

#musings #bandit answers questions #bandit #meme response #fanfic #butimnotasexyrussian #latf #THANK YOU FOR ASKING I HAD FUN ANSWERING #latf coming in clutch like #it really is my favorite fic that i've written #and i'm super attached to it #i've been trying for almost a year now to scrub it #and keep running into roadblocks #it is the only fic i have printed out #(atm because plan to print a couple of others probably in the next couple of weeks)#but #it is my favorite #still is #to this day

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hrhdhead · 8 months

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INDEPENDENT ROLEPLAY BLOG FOR HENRY FOX-MOUNTCHRISTEN-WINDSOR OF THE RED, WHITE & ROYAL BLUE UNIVERSE. loved dearly by alex. also found @ batwirls, vaarulv, corignem & too many more. // modern royalty crossover server. // MINORS DNI. 21+ writer.

what's a bellend? look it up.

i am, as with all my blogs, mutuals only. please do not interact with my posts etc unless we are both following one another.

i write and hang out a lot on discord, mutuals can find me there.

i love plotting, but winging it also works. memes are the best ice breakers and ways to develop, so send me a hundred!

i draw inspiration from both the book and the film so expect a bit of a merged portrayal. i do, of course, have verses solely in the movie or the book depending on preference.

i tag visual triggers, but i don’t tend to tag my writing for triggers. any potentially triggering content will always be discussed and approved with writing partners first and foremost. if i miss any triggers, please drop me and ask!

my name is alex, i use he/they pronouns. live in the south of england so run on gmt. i work full time hours, so i’m not available 24/7, but as said, catch me on discord more easily! 21+, please don’t follow me if you are under 18.

do not follow me if you write a genderbent muse.

it’s an instant block if i see things like racism, ableism, transphobia, homophobia, sexism etc.

DO. NOT. INTERACT with me if you’re friends with lilith. she’s gone by so many names before including lily, ana & nev. last found at loyaels, voynasoldat, sheadrenaline, as well as blogs like lilithmemes and nevcommissions. i don’t mind if you’re mutuals etc, i can easily block her tags. but if you’re genuine friends with her? best not to interact. i don’t want to hear about her. i have a wealth of receipts on the matter but long story short: abusive, manipulative, disgusting and lowkey predatory controlling behaviour. i dealt with her bullshit for almost a year and she made a lot of dear friends in my server feel horrific for the time she was there. i don’t fuck with her and anyone that stands by her and her bullshit actions. also she has a habit of lying about her age and timezone to Disappear from her shitty behaviour, so. :) her discord is: lilithellfire

verses to be added:

multiple harry potter/magical world aus (obvs very anti jkr)

post canon verse

ouat verse

star wars verses

#pinned post.

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gch1995 · 3 years

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No one hates OUAT more than those of us in the fandom who actually watched it and/or followed it long enough to fully realize just how disappointingly awful, hopeless, and ridiculous the writing became in the piss poor excuse for canon the show devolved into the longer it went on, even though it was supposed to “be fun” and “give us hope.” At least all of its beautiful wasted potential became an outlet for far superior writing in our headcanons and fanfiction, though, no matter how shitty the actual show got.

I always feel so bad for newbies in the fandom who haven’t yet uncovered the horrific clusterfuck of bad writing this show ultimately devolved into. A part of me always feels like telling new fans to just spare themselves the pain, and to just quit watching after the Neverland arc. The majority of those of us in the OUAT fandom agree that the show’s writing ultimately devolved into a painfully biased, cheaply shocking, cheesy, wildly inconsistent, melodramatic, nonsensical, pandering, repetitive, and wildly ooc unsalvageable mess of bad writing that made us feel angry, betrayed, bored, and disgusted more often than not after that.

However, even after the show’s writing went completely off the rails beyond all salvaging, there were still those gold nuggets of wasted potential for characters, relationships, and storylines that could have and should have been amazing, if Kitsowitz and these writers actually had been able to be consistently competent and professional at their jobs. Particularly when looking back at the first two-and-a-half seasons of OUAT, I feel a great sense of disappointment at just how much beautiful and interesting potential they ultimately wasted in these characters and relationships in favor of blatantly biased, cheaply shocking, contrived, nonsensical, mutually toxic, wildly ooc, repetitive, and thus, character destroying magical soap opera melodrama.

There’s always this deep sense of disappointment in me over the amazing show that canon OUAT ultimately could have and should have been whenever I see all of those golden nuggets of tragically wasted potential Kitsowitz and these writers showed us in those moments when they were actually being competent show-runners and writers, particularly in S1-2A before they show got too distracted by the next big contrived magical thing to actually let the characters slow down, talk to each other, hang out with each other, and grow and react like in-character and relatable human beings. If only they were able to ultimately write and stick to a consistent, relatable, gradual, realistic, and organic course of character development that actually would have ultimately made these characters, happy endings, redemption arcs, and/or regression arcs actually feel well-earned and satisfying in the end.

Instead, they ended up erasing, minimizing, and/or outright romanticizing certain bad behaviors and choices of their characters at certain points and the negative consequences and/or effects they had in regards to those they hurt and/or victimized.

Instead, they ended up outright derailing most of their characters normally and/or consistently previously established complex, intelligent, and sympathetic characterizations and/or positive development at one point or another in order to rerail them over and over and over again more and more post S3 in increasingly abrupt, cheaply shocking, contrived, disappointing, flanderdized, horrifying, melodramatically toxic, and nonsensical ways that made them suddenly come across as uncharacteristically unsympathetic and stupid out of nowhere.

Instead, they created absurdities out of nowhere to inorganically force the characters to regress in ways that contradicted all previously established canon characterization, continuity, and previously established logic on the show.

Instead, they selectively bent, broke, and contradicted their own rules of magic with less and less fairness, rhyme, or reason as every season passed the first.

If only they had consistently and fairly stuck to their own rules and limitations of what magic could and couldn’t do. If only they treated their characters as complex and relatable human beings and equals with compelling, consistent, and realistic personalities, flaws, conflicts, regressions, redemptions, and resolutions that drove their stories consistently, gradually, organically, and realistically because of who they were and/or developed into as people, rather than because nonsensical asspulled twists and/or magical macguffins demanded that these characters suddenly become whatever they needed them to become a certain way to create cheap shock value, suspense, drama, and repetitive storytelling, regardless of all previously established characterization, continuity, development, and logic in their own canon.

Instead, they decided to cherry pick favorite characters and/or ships to frame as “redeemed” in the narrative, even though they may not have actually done anything to earn it and/or regressed without any negative consequences for doing so, just because Emma and the Charmings accepted them as “family.”

Instead, they ended up slapping increasingly biased, petty, meaningless, and shallow “hero” and “villain” labels on all of their characters, regardless of how objectively and needlessly harmful their choices, behaviors, and reactions may have been to others, in spite of being on the “right” side.

But we all ultimately sustained ourselves in the OUAT fandom by imagining just how amazing these characters, their relationships, and their storylines could have and should have been, trying to disregard the character assassinating bad writing in the piss poor excuse for canon that OUAT ultimately devolved into, taking Kitsowitz and these writers golden nuggets of tragically wasted potential for these characters, their relationships, and creating far superior works of art with those golden nuggests of wasted potential in canon with our headcanons and fan fiction.

OUAT isn’t a show that stuck with most of us because we were impressed by its writing in canon. In fact, most of us are fully aware that there were writing choices in the piss poor excuse of canon OUAT our favorite characters and relationships on the show that were inexcusably awful, biased, cheesy, cheaply shocking, gross, offensive, inconsistent, nonsensical, tone-deaf, wildly ooc, and/or repetitive at one point or another. Honestly, if the main character and/or relationship lasted past S3 in the main cast, then Kitsowitz and the writers destroyed your favorite character and/or ship with bad writing at one point or another.

After the writers unceremoniously killed off Bae/Neal, and resurrected Rumple from the show’s most consistently relatable, realistic, sympathetic, and well-earned two-and-a-half season redemption arc from S1-3A, it became clear thet they ran out of story to tell after wrapping up the Neverland arc, and had no idea where else they were supposed to go with Emma, Regina, Hook, Rumple, Belle, Snow, David, and even Henry’s individual characters or relationships anymore.

We know canon OUAT became a shitshow of inexcusably bad writing. We know it became horrifying and stupid. However, most of us didn’t actually remain in this fandom because we agreed with the writing on the show. We latched onto it so strongly because of its amazing main cast. We latched on to it so deeply because it showed us how to not completely fuck up amazing, relatable, and compelling individual characters, their relationships, and their storylines with biased, hypocritical, ableist, classist, homophobic, racist, sexist, petty, cheaply shocking, gross, wildly ooc, flanderdized, melodramatic, pandering, repetitive, and nonsensical lazy plot-driven writing. Granted, these problems were starting to show up in canon OUAT’s writing as early on as S1. However, after 3A, the show’s writing completely went off the rails for everyone in the remaining main cast that lasted past S3, and these characters and their relationships never fully recovered what made them at all coherent, compelling, magical, relatable, and enjoyable to watch and get invested in in canon from S1-S3, in spite of their obvious flaws.

Most of us have remained in the OUAT fandom because the show’s shitty writing choices and wasted potential inspired most of us to tell far better stories than Kitsowitz and their team of hacks ultimately did.

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queenofglassbeliever · 2 years

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The mental gymnastics the writers went through to say that Anastasia has more reason to hate Drizella than Ella ever did must have been fucking phenomenal.

#ouat #anti ouat writers #drizella tremaine #ella mills #anastasia tremaine #once upon a time #ouat s7

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shewhotellsstories · 3 years

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I endured four seasons of Once Upon a Time, so I can do this. I can handle whatever Bryke came up with. But writing wise I feel like we have to be careful with how we approach trauma. On OUAT there was that super gross what if episode where Emma thanks Regina for killing her parents in front of her. The twisted logic being that Emma had to spend her childhood being neglected, and shuffled around and abused or she wouldn’t be strong. Or on GOT when Sansa says she would’ve stayed a fragile little bird be it not for Ramsey. Not one of my favorite characters, but I don’t believe she needed to be raped and abused to become politically savvy, that’s just lazy writing.

The hero suffers, I get that. My thing is that it’s just wrong and invalidating to say that the traumatizing things that happened to a character were actually good for them and necessary because it toughened them up.

#ouat #anti ouat writers #emma swan #anti bryke #tlok critical #abuse #sansa stark #game of thrones #anti d&d

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heddagab · 4 months

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Not Emilie de Ravin giving more for memoryless Belle being terrified of Rumple than 7 seasons of regular Belle (pretending to be) in love with him 🤣

#anti rumbelle #also wtf was that kiss they wrote him giving her while asleep #Rumple in this episode is the writers trying to shove Rumbelle down my throat and I'm Lacey screaming bloody murder 🤣#ouat 2x12

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kyliafanfiction · 9 days

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I kind of loathe that they created that whole history between Eva and Cora and Leopold? Like, it kind of -

I don't like it. But it really is their whole schtick, isn't it? Everyone always related to everyone else.

#Anti-OUAT Writers #I guess #Grumping #Also btw #Burn In Hell Cora Mills #Fucking god I hate her so much

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celticheartedfangirl · 3 years

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Yeah I know its been forever since I've posted ....

I've been listening to all of the Marc Evan Jackson podcasts for The Good Place and I just want to be best friends with all of the writers on this show.

And then I start thinking "hey, why didn't we have a OUAT podcast like this?"

And then I remember wait, we DID .... the first two seasons. And it was nothing but Adam and Eddy spewing their usual narcissistic crap. And just think, at the time we had NO IDEA how bad they'd get. Also I remember listening (this was even before I became fandom active) and wondering why I kinda sorta wanted to punch that Kitsis guy in the face because his voice made me stabby.

Anyhow -- this podcast made me see what a functional writing team looks like. And sad that OUAT never had that. What struck me was that Mike Schur believes that whoever has the best idea -- be it a writer or actor or the guy who cleans up the set -- that's the idea they use.

Can you seriously picture A&E working that way? Yeah, stop laughing, neither can I.

Anyhow, just wanted to say that.

#anti ouat writers #still bitter #but at least some shows had good writers #and show runners

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