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[celine-song]

BARBARIAN (2022) dir. Zach Cregger

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[imsoglitter]

Tess as a final girl is so interesting because she did everything right. She was suspicious and got documentation of Keith rather than blindly trusting him. She didn't go down the creepy passageway until it was properly lit. She was ready to bolt the moment she saw the murder room.

The real conflict of the movie was about pitting her self preservation instincts against her empathy, and it's specifically in a gendered way (I'm sure there are racial aspects as well, but I haven't finished rotating those in my brain yet). When she forgoes self preservation in her attempts to help Keith and AJ, it definitively comes back to bite her in the ass, leading to her capture in the former instance and her near re-capture and severe wounds in the latter. However it is notably her empathy/her ability to read the Mother that allows her to survive as well as she does.

This theme is repeated in the third act twist, where the well meaning retail employee helps Frank prepare for a birth, and unwittingly assists in the prolonged torture of one of his victims.

Paired with the number of times in the film that men refuse to take women's concerns seriously (Keith with the room, AJ denying his rape accusations when it's very clear he did something wrong, the cops refusing to believe Tess, the homeless man who insists that Tess leave AJ behind, etc) I think the film manages to say something interesting, if not very subtle, about the gendered nature of care in society.

Tess lasted as long as she did because of her strong empathetic response, but it's also the reason she was there in the first place

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[klapollo]

(barbarian movie spoilers, rape/incest tw)

i've seen people (understandably imo) bothered by the fact that the mother was a "monster" when she was a victim who was the product of decades of rape and incest, but i'm willing to lightly defend this on thematic grounds.

a significant chunk of the movie's theme seems to be rooted in the idea that our perception of who is really bad and good is stilted and often informed by our own cultural biases. take, for example, how tess runs away from andre the first time she sees him bc he's a homeless man and calls the cops -- he was trying to save her life. the cops, often portrayed as heroes in our culture, are totally useless and even callous and cruel. to a lesser extent, keith -- a guy who the audience is acquainted with as a chronic horror villain through his actor -- comes off creepy and suspicious but was ultimately genuine, kind and innocent. arguably the strongest example is frank, who is brutalizing innocent women by the dozens and buying supplies and skulking around in public, and all the while his neighbors whisper to him in confidence that they need to get out and move because the neighborhood is falling apart -- because it's losing its racial homogeneity.

and just the same, the mother LOOKS "scary" but she's just a victim trying to do what she thinks it's right. the REAL monster is frank, who is ostensibly a "normal" guy. the mother is, along with tess and andre, one of the most innocent characters in the film. this sounds ridiculous considering the amount of carnage she inflicts, but unlike frank, her motivations are pure: she sees tess as her baby, and she wants to do anything to protect her. even after tess rams her with the car, she throws herself off the water tower to save her life. tess understands this. it's why she hesitates in the end, because she's a good person and (unlike AJ) sees the mother for what she really is -- even after everything she's been through.

while a lot of the movie is about the ramifications of gendered violence, i'd argue it's also about judging things based on our society's prejudices. the mother as a monster is a red herring. frank, though he looks "normal," is the true beast, not her.

i don't think these criticisms are WRONG necessarily (especially when critiquing a male director) but i do think cregger was judicious in his choices and didn't do this with misogynistic intention -- actually the opposite. i totally respect people who disagree though, it's a difficult thing.

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[julianavalds]

You should've never went in that house to begin with. That's a bad place. And she ain't even the worst thing that's in there.

BARBARIAN (2022) dir. Zach Cregger

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[sufferthesea]

rip keith sorry i thought you were a serial killer

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[killyspinacoladas]

Anyone else lowkey disappointed we didn't get to see Bill Skarsgård nurse from that hairy baby bottle in the pit?

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[moonwaif]

The "some girls need convincing" paralleled with the mother trying to convince them to take the bottle.

The "and then she was really into it" paralleled with drinking enthusiastically from the bottle, submitting and not getting upset cuz "then she gets really upset"

The "there's two perspectives to every story" paralleled with what is happening to the man in the pink room vs the maternal video that the mother believes she is replicating

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[gigantomachy1916]

I don't have anywhere else to post these thoughts, I don't know if anyone who follows me has seen Barbarian but whatever. Anyway, the movie is super interesting and based on the book The Gift of Fear, but there's one scene in it that I've seen hardly anyone talking about and I'm not sure why, because it really stood out to me.

The plot twist is, spoilers ahead, that Keith was actually a good guy, despite his awkwardness. But there's this moment after Tess discovers the room in the basement where he flat out refuses to listen to her, insisting on seeing it himself, despite her terror. And besides that, he won't let her leave either. He physically puts himself between her and the front door, even grabbing her arm to stop her—and seeing as Bill Skarsgård is 6'4", this is a super intimidating move.

It reminded me of this thread I saw awhile back (first on Twitter, then it continued on Reddit) about how many men automatically respond to anything a woman says by contradicting her. They'll insist she look up citations to prove a statement made in casual conversation, or ignore her advice only to take the same advice from a man. And you can see this in Keith's response: despite him being vaguely feminist on the surface, his reaction to Tess telling him what she saw is to refuse to believe her or take her seriously until he can confirm it, going so far as to physically prevent her from leaving until she agrees to give him a chance to make sure she wasn't mistaken. There's nothing to be gained in this, just an irrational inability to take a woman at her word (which, in the end, gets him killed).

I'm not writing this to be like "And this is why he's a terrible person." It's just really interesting to me the way that this behavior is so normalized for men that no one even comments on it, and it's not seen as conflicting with the idea that he's a good guy. Particularly in contrast to AJ and Frank, which is another thing that struck home to me: by having worse men to compare them to, men who are actively predatory and violent, the men who are more banally sexist, like Keith, come out looking fantastic in comparison.

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[whatsnewalycat]

Thinking about the movie Barbarian.

About how Tess and The Mother both act on the survival instincts they learned as a result of their womanhood. How Tess did “the right thing” on all counts, but still ended up being held captive in a basement designed for women’s suffering. How The Mother tried desperately to keep her there because it’s the only way she thought her baby could survive. How none of the men Tess reached out to for help believed her, and what role their disbelief played in her fate.

Thinking about what exactly makes a monster.

Thinking about how scared The Mother was of people making noise in the basement, almost like she was afraid of Frank coming out if he heard a ruckus. How she hid her “babies” away from him, like she was protecting them. How she was raised in darkness and could never step into the light. How she tried to keep her babies safe with her, even though it was safest to let them go. Did she keep them there with her, silent, in the darkness, out of selfishness, so she wouldn’t be lonely, or did she do it because she thought anything else would mean death or worse?

About how AJ and Frank are both predators in their own right. How they both suffer the consequence of exile, but do they ever really think that what they did is wrong? Do they accept responsibility for their violence against women? Do their victims ever really see justice for what was done to them?

AJ, to his credit, expresses remorse, but then throws Tess over the edge to save himself. That is his survival instinct. Both Tess and The Mother, meanwhile, override their survival instincts at times to save others.

And there’s something about The Mother’s self-sacrifice especially, how she dove after her baby without hesitation, and how, rather than going back into the darkness of that basement, Tess killed The Mother. Then the sun rose and she walked into the light.

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[dandydevildog]

🎶 Be my baby 🎶

I really liked Barbarian

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[inthenight-inthedark]

Barbarian live blog

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[the-sublime-unreal]

The Psycho & The Barbarian:

Intuition, Intertextuality, & Irony in Cregger's Barbarian

Barbarian (2022) is a slasher-thriller that touts a deceivingly simple premise: a woman, alone in a strange city, finds herself in close quarters with a stranger who shouldn't be there. While her first instinct is rightfully to leave, through bad luck and alarming coercion her options are steadily whittled down until she is forced to stay the night.

This information is all that is offered in the first half of the trailer, with the actual details of Tess's, our protagonist, time in the house left to the viewer's imagination. Instead the viewer is greeted with jump shots of claustrophobic subterranean hallways, glimpses of pale, hobbling flesh, and the same green-tinted shots of shocked audiences that have plagued horror fans since Paranormal Activity's 2009 release.

This tepid trailer does little to inspire hope for a decent movie in the viewer, which is why the bulk of Barbarian- to say the least of its brains- comes as a shock jarring enough to rival any jumpscare.

The opening half hour of Barbarian sees Tess and her unexpected companion, Keith, stumble through what might be interpreted as a meetcute in another genre but is instead a parade of red flags. Keith comes off as untrustworthy, overeager and manipulative, so when Tess finds a hidden tunnel in the basement with what appears to be a snuff film set, the audience is primed for Keith to be the antagonist, particularly when he downplays her concerns as "just a room with a bed and a bucket".

What is unexpected, however, is that when Keith enters the tunnel beneath the house and goes silent for way too long, what Tess finds waiting for her is not a trap set by a manipulative slasher. Instead, Keith is in a hushed panic, and after a seconds-long reunion where he says that there is someone else here, a misshapen elderly woman, fully nude, appears from the shadows and beats his head against the stone hallway. Then, in a jump cut recognizable to any movie buff, the dark and bloody interior is replaced by a classic convertible driving along the coast, pop music replacing the shrieking score.

Like Hitchcock's Psycho, Barbarian explores the loss of the suburban dream. Its setting, Brightmoor, Detroit, is an embodiment of housing crises previous, and the fact that the home is specifically an AirBnB that the owner had never before visited emphasizes the current housing crisis. Psycho explores the death of the family unit, with Norman Bates clinging to a relationship with a mother who no longer exists, whereas Barbarian's bogeyman is a mother who has never had a child. While this is merely the beginning of the comparisons between the two films, in order to preserve the excitement of any potential first viewings, I will refrain from examining specific details.

The true antagonist of the film is little more than a living corpse whose horrific crimes occurred long ago- The Mother merely a product of abuse, mind broken and development arrested, her speech limited to babbling the word "baby" over and over. Is it this babbling that gives the film its name? is it that the street where the antagonist resides is called "Barbary", making him the sole original occupant: the final Barbarian? Or is it meant to be an explicit callback to Hitchcock's work?

This leads into the true question of Barbarian's intertextuality: is it merely aping Psycho or is it actually in conversation with the piece- if so, what is it saying?

Barbarian invokes a question about desperation, the nature of our dreams, and the dangers of idealizing the past— doing so by referencing a classic film that is, in itself, idealized. With this, Barbarian posits that the American dream is not just dead, but has been dead for so long that not even its corpse is recognizable. Long gone is the slasher, the serial killer lurking in the depths of our quiet suburbs: the well-meaning but nevertheless horrific byproducts of those legends are what haunt us today.

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[garruscoochie]

So just a quick rambling thought on one of the aspects of Barbarian (2022) because this wild movie really has got me thinking! Spoilers and TWs in tags

So while Keith turns out to be one of the "good" guys in the movie, it's subtly shown that even he does not fully understand Tess as a woman. When Tess comes to him in a panic he doesn't listen to her, sealing his own death in the process. Showing that scene and the scene where he's yelling at her in the tunnel as a parallel is super interesting. He got upset, believing he was right and wanting her to understand and listen to his fear when just before when she was terrified he didn't fully believe her, even telling her to calm down. And Tess's fear is warranted, just from the glimpse of the initial room alone. She knows what a room like that is for. Girls are aggressively warned about sexual violence from a very young age, hence her caution when first staying with Keith. There's also something to be said about his own realization of making her a drink and how she viewed that. He makes her one after she says no, then realizes her trepidation, and then he sort of jokes about it. He feels awkward and doesn't want to say the wrong thing so he jokes that she could watch him make it or have some unopened wine with him. There's something about that scene for me, its more of that not fully comprehending her and dismissing her worry because hes not a "bad" guy in his own eyes. So he's not fully capable of putting himself in her shoes. Though he wakes up with her touching him while sleeping, past the initial alarm, it's not really indicated that he fears for his safety around her, unlike like her POV staying with him. I mean, they're human and they did only meet like one day ago and he didn't grow up femme so like, it's mostly understandable!

Anyway, Keith is not the monster that AJ and Frank are. But there is a message subtly shown here that even the best intentions or views of self morality don't keep you from making poor decisions especially at the expense of others. Because of Keith's disbelief, this leads to Tess running after him to help when he puts himself in harms way. Though understandable, his yelling for help when he knows, or at least hopes, that she will help him puts her in danger. He is expecting more from her than he gave her just a minute before. And the thing is, he is one of the better guys in the film! Again, it just goes to show that though you think you're a good person, you can fail to make the best decisions and indirectly affect those around you.

One last thing, the only other good man in this movie is the homeless man in the neighborhood, Andre. He helps and let's Tess into his home. Selflessly, he does these things. I would just like to point back to the scene immediately after he rescues her. When she wants to go back in to rescue AJ, he dismisses her. He finds her empathy unreasonable, favoring self preservation ideals instead. Which, again, totally understandable! This is a man who has learned street smarts and safety for survival for years. What I find interesting is that he doesn't necessarily rescue Tess at any expense to himself at that time. He knew that Mother wouldn't come out in the sun when he pulled Tess out. And he settled to go separate ways from Tess until she winds up on his doorstep that night. Of course his hospitality is more at his expense because he knows Mother will come for her "babies" that night but still let's them stay. And even his initial warning when he runs after her is just poorly thought out. In what world does yelling "Hey little girl, don't run in that house" while running full speed at her a good idea? Again, it's just poor critical thinking regarding women and how they view their safety.

I guess my point is, no one seems to care or feel things quite as much as Tess does. And because of that, she seems to be disregarded by the men in the film as...dramatic? The movie paints the picture of how she, a woman, is regarded by society. There are the glaring displays of sexism, misogyny, and gender based violence but there is also the subtler instances of lesser versions of the same things. Especially the ones not done intentionally. (This last sentence doesn't pertain to anything to do with AJ or Frank, may they burn in hades.)

In conclusion, Idk if I could watch this again anytime soon. It genuinely is disturbing but I do enjoy a movie that makes you think deeply. I've heard many people call this a unique story and at first, I was conflicted because I was stuck on how sexual violence against women is not a unique thing at all in our world. And how horror movies tell them, most of the time, pretty damn poorly. But the storybuilding and the complexities surrounding the base storyline and Mother, it just really works. This isn't a gratuitous horror movie at all imo. Yknow the kind I'm talking about, where it's just torture porn and exploitative. There's layers here and something to be thought about. I would recommend this movie, it's quite the watch. This is just my opinion ofc, I can readily see why this movie wouldn't be people's cup of tea. Anyway, this movie is gonna live in my head paying absolutely no rent.

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[scaredy-fox]

So I have thoughts about Barbarian (2022) and they will be spoiler heavy.

Overall I enjoyed this movie, or at least it had some very stand out moments, well cast actors, and great effects. I found that it seemed to lack a decent handle on its pacing, and it feels like a third of the story is just missing?

The first act had this fantastic building tension with Keith and Tess that was mesmerizing, the awkwardness and constant threat of danger had me genuinely unnerved!

The hard cut from Keith’s death to AJ’s introduction worked, but pretty much everything after AJ touched down in Detroit felt odd for some reason. I wish we had been given more insight into Frank’s crimes, more connection between him and the Mother beyond a cut off flashback and exposition from a random homeless man.

Continuing with that thought, It felt like there were moments that were drawn out intentionally in the first half, and they really served to elevate the tension and awkwardness that they played on, and later the frustration of dealing with the shitty cops. Unfortunately, it felt like these scenes came to fill the runtime more as the movie went one and I was wary the ending wouldn’t be satisfying, and it wasn’t. There was too much that happened in the first half that just didn’t matter in the end, so the story felt bloated by distracting, unneeded details.

The writing feels like such a crime when the movie was SO well cast, and the effects they did have were fantastic. I feel like the missing scene is something showing something more than a cut off scream in relation to Frank’s crimes. The labels on the videos and other setting details had me excited for some true carnage, but I did leave disappointed. And disappointment is the real word here because the good in this movie is SO good, that I honestly feel let down, like here was a whole other ending sequence that was missing.

Overall I’d like to score this movie higher, but I’ll have to take a point off for being unsatisfying, but give back a half point for just how great the kills are for a final score of 7.5/10!

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[chaneajoyyy]

Now watching Barbarian . Those of you who sent anons about it here I am tuning in!

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[snezhishka]

Just watched Barbarian 2022. SHE DID NOTHING WRONG AND DIDN'T DESERVE TO DIE MY POOR BABYGIRL

She was so sweet also like she really meant no harm

I blame the police and her father for everything that happened + AJ ofc

I mean she did nothing wrong considering how she was raised like good LUCK not solving everything with murder when your abusive father is a serial killer and you've never seen the light of day or had conversations with people and also have superhuman strength

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