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chinchulinpirulin · 9 months
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I LOVE THIS PART SO MUCH
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latinotiktok · 7 months
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Propaganda:
Chell
-‼️ y muerte a los que la dibujan blanca !!
Chell de portal - vi que alguien mas dijo chell y son completamente correcto. Y MUERTE a los que la dibujan blanca !
Comments on the VS KARKAT showdown:
"WHO FUCKING GIVES A SHIT ABOUT KARKAT THE PERSON THEY USED AS A REFERENCE MODEL FOR CHELL IS LITERALLY BRAZILIAN !!!! HER NAME IS ALESIA GLIDEWELL HERES A PICTURE OF HER DRESSED AS CHELL !!!!!"
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lpm si chell la modelaron a base de uma brasilera PQ LA BLANCASIFICARON. PERDON LA VEZ Q LA DIBUJE COLORPICKIE DEL MODEL SHEET COMO UNA PELOTUDA. DIOS NUNCA ME VA A PERDONAR. AWANTE CHELL BRASILERA LOKO
Nicholas D. Wolfwood
-Nicholas D Wolfwood because he looks like my dad (mexican), he's catholic, his life's purpose is to protect children (against the church), and he's got eldest daughter syndrome. He doesn't want to be doing any of this he's someone's older brother who's working 3 jobs to pay his family's mortgage. Eldest of thirty. In canon forced to take care of his younger foster siblings.
-Wolfood y leorio porque son dos morenazos tetones
-Nicholas D. Wolfwood aka el Nicolás Villalobos. Lo tiene todo. Catholic guilt. Homosexualidad reprimida. Problemas emocionales. Energía de hermano y primo mayor. Tits out guns out. Escucha Chayanne mientras va en moto me lo dijo él mismo
-WOLFWOOD FROM TRIGUN. WHY - THE MEXICAN CATHOLIC SWAG OF IT ALL.
-Nicholas D Wolfwood (Trigun)El chabón tiene todo para ser latino. Morenito, con traumas católicos, canchero, esa nariz que denota que no es un blanco cualquiera ❤️
-el don nicolas de trigun 199algo. solo miralo.
-nicholas d. wolfwood ya todos sabemos por que, este blog completo tiene posts de por que. el tipo es ecuatoriano/colombiano vamos ptm. (imagen del perrito wolfwood que dice te quiero mucho latinoamerica)
-nime (2023) Anime (1998) Manga KANJI ニコラス・D・ウルフウッド ROMAJI Nikorasu Dī Wurufuwuddo ALTERNATE NAMES Reveal DEBUT Episode 4: Hungry! APPEARS IN Trigun Stampede RACE Human, genetically modified VOICE ACTOR JP: Yoshimasa Hosoya EN: David Matranga STATUS Reveal FAMILY Reveal MORE We're nothing like God. Not only are our powers limited, but we are sometimes driven to become the devil himself. NICHOLAS D. WOLFWOOD Nicolás D. Wolfwood de Trigun. ¿Es un pedazo de carne Y es Católico? TIENE que ser Latino no hay de otra!
-nicholas d wolfwood de trigun maximum por que lleva con el una cruz gigante y tiene tetas grandes 🥰
-Nicholas Wolfwood nomás porque es un moreno que está bien pinche guapo!!! Aparte las tetas que se carga son un patrimonio de Latinoamérica
-Nicholas D. Wolfwood, because he's the perfect man & I love him. I'm sure there's more lmao I can't think of anything good rn it's so late. I just see other people adding him & I want to up our chances of getting him in the poll
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pointless-discourse · 1 month
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homestuck characters as related to trans stuff
head canon
JOHN EGBERT
closeted repping tgirl who will likely not realize she's trans until after 16
avoids mirrors, unhappy with appearance but tries to avoid looking at it
gets dressed in the dark
once she comes out she's gonna dress like the most hideous anime girl for the first few months
like goes HAM
her fav nerd shirts paired with a weird fucking skirt but eventually it looks really good just because of how much time she spends on it now that she likes how she looks
DAVE STRIDER
cool cis guy that will respect the pronouns
will treat people the same regardless of transness
goes down the transfem nonbinary any pronouns route in mid 20s
unfathomably chill
JADE HARLEY
divisive subject. either cool nerdy tgirl or closeted trans guy
tgirl jade puts a lot of effort into dressing for the sake of mirrors
doesn't necessarily look GOOD (ultranerd furry island social recluse) but she looks intresting
however tgirl jade doesn't voicetrain and not only is her voice kinda clocky but also very hoarse from lack of use
closeted transguy/transmasc nonbinary jade is very online and performative feminine stuff until he realizes in his late teens he's trans
does not learn what trans is until late teens, very in sheltered parts of the internet despite being very online
was out online years before he came out irl
third option: chill cis girl who, during
ROSE LALONDE
terf
no hate to rose she is one of my top three characters in all of homestuck but she is very terf vibes
she spends a lot of time "debating" with trans people online (harassment) and frequents a lot of terf forums
i think that after a few years of earth c and maybe meteorstuck she grows past it and eventually to her it's not a fight she's proud to be the lead general of but a phase she's really embarassed of, much like her other silly 13 year old traits
i also really like tgirl rose, not for character basis but i think its cool and i (obviously) love trans headcanons
KARKAT VANTAS
i am very divided between ftm and cis guy.
cis guy karkat is cool, he's very much just some guy who's comfortable in his "girly" hobbies and, while isn't really tied into his physical appearance, isn't dysphoric and is just a little insecure
however: humanstuck karkat will always be trans in my mind, just for the persecution bit, although i would also buy ethnically-middle-eastern adopted into a white american family karkat
he'd be a truscum or just kinda shitty to nonpassing trans people i think, we've seen how many alternian empire boots he licks so conforming to the status quo as a pick-me minority is not above him
again i think he would grow out of it in his later teen years/early 20s (like in the comic) but i don't ever see humanstuck karkat escaping the eternal shame that kind comes with being trans
ARADIA MEDIG0
ily weird unnerving tgirl aradia she is like so that to me. she reminds me of the boymoder NEET memes i see chronically online trans girls on reddit posting
but also i do equally enjoy weird girlboss cis girl aradia
either way she is far too etheral to be bothered with gender stuff
like you could come out to her with sixteen hard to pronounce xenos, pass so badly you unearth masculinity/feminity so prominent it burns to the touch, and she would not give a single fuck. and she would never mess up with pronouns and shit
tAVROS nITRAM
i see her as a hardcore deep deep in the closet repper tgirl as like a core part of my interpretations and yet i can never imagine her coming out
like i just see her boymoding forever
not really? like i think it would happen eventually i just can't visualize it
hypothetically i could see her being one of those cool goth girls named lilith but it seems very removed from the original starting point
2OLLUX CAPTOR
repping tgirl or amab nonbinary or just plain cis
either way still horrifically greasy and that will never change
there is no self reflection that will even vaguely incentivize sollux to maintain his hygeine
:33< NEPETA LEJION
cis girl
maybe comes out as ftm in 20s? if trans, i could also see nepeta repping till death
like just a weird cis girl who is like "oh, you're trans? just like in my warrior cats rp discord server!"
again, gives more of a fuck about gender than aradia but it is close
she just cares if you will listen to her talk about her ships and art
nepeta is the type of person where it might take her a while get the new name and stuff right
"HER PRONOUNS ARE THEY/THEM!"
but she would be your staunch defender
KANAYA MARYAM
eh? nothing strong here, i don't really have a hc for her
but there is a lot of mtf symbolism in the comic and i do enjoy that
like a socially awkward youngshit who's not out to many people because she can't really bring herself to correct people in public but still has a really passing voice even after first coming out
bad facial dysphoria
do like her as intersex. feels right
TEREZI PYROPE
nonbinary
no genders, all the genders, new genders, old primal genders, everything
both simultaneously afab and amab but not intersex?
the living embodiment of androgyny
probably has a very long list of neos/xenos but is any pronouns
you cannot misgender her. hes too cool.
VRISKAAAAAAAA SERK8!!!!!!!!
transgirl transgirl transgril
literally not even a headcanon at this point vriska is a trans girl and that is that!!!!!!!!
if you disagree im kickng your ass so hard it comes out of your mouth. your days are numbered and that number is 0. (not 8 :( )
EQUIUS
option one: cis gymbro chaser.
he sleeps with trans men to steal their t shots
in the streets he'll occasionally say the weird shit but i know he'd be crankin his hog to futa/cuntboy shit by night
option two: trans girl
never comes out because of insecurity but indulges in long hair and the occasional skirt in private and then feels really bad about it
option three: insane roided trans man
t gave him big muscles and big sex drive
option three poiont 5.
racist sexist homophobic nonbinary
like drops the most despicable shit in conversation and finsihes it off with "my pronouns are actually they/them), like one of those nazi femboys
GAMZEE MAKARA
does not gaf
cis (? idk) guy who is fine with any pronouns and crossdresses for fun
i guess not technically cis? but still identifies as a man when it comes down to it. like barely guy
FEFERI PEIXIES
cis girl who is a little infantilizing
if you're transfem she will give you makeup tips
but still a little hugboxy
"oh no you totally pass even though you're 8'100 and have a full beard! women come in all shapes and sizes!" (not shitting on the made up trans girl here, passing is fucking hard and it has no bearing on personal worth)
JANE CROCKER
jane is a repping/closeted trans man and you can pry this from my cold dead hands
the mustache? the projection onto only male figures?
also i think its fun with jane's ties to the girls-only fuchsiablood club that he ends up a dude
also st4t janeroxy my beloved
DIRK STRIDER
gonna be honest here no strong leanings
i am a firm believer that estrogen would save her but i dont really think of dirk as anywhere on the gender spectrum
maybe just cis dirk? i could buy cis dirk
JAKE ENGLISH
one one hand i would like the transmasc rep being not restricted to hairless twinks and i would enjoy ftm jake that way
transmasc nonbinary jake is an insane concept to me but i do find myself intrested
a little iffy on the trans headcanons (especially transmasc) because a big part of the concept of jake english is that he's a big strong man who takes on the literary role of an objectified girl character and having him be
ROXY LALONDE
ex twinkhon femboy now BDD gigapassoid
literally one of the most gorgeous trans women you will ever meet
creating e substitutes in her laboratory since age 12
again not even those most immersed in trans culture and the ways of clocking would be able to tell thats how good she is
her speaking patterns hail solely from those cutesy minecraft/unboxing youtubers she religiously watched as a small child
however she is fully convinced that she doesn't pass for shit so she believes that every genuine complement and people treating her like a woman is just them being nice
she'll attempt to boymode and go "stealth" in scenarios where she doesn't want to be visibly trans but it fucking backfires because everyone assumes she's ftm
DIRK STRIDER
trans man with literally no basis because my dirk-themed friend is also a trans man
4channer transman robotics nerd dirk my beloved
DAMARA MEGIDO
transfem ig? or cis woman
very girl adjacent
idk i dont think about the dancestors much
RUFIOH NITRAM
cis man
MAYBE trans man
i am also cool with that
MITUNA CAPTOR
cis man
MAYBE transfem nonbinary
KANKRI VANTAS
trans man because very few cis men were tumblr "SJW"s
and he reminds me of of some chronically online trans guys i used to hang around
also hes very fuckign petite and girls and feminend and twinky dinky and im just projecting my dysphoria onto him sorrie kankri fans
MEULIN LEJION
cis fujo girl
when she discovered trans men she was like 'YAAAAAS MPREG'
will respect your pronouns and shit but is VERY HORNY
lowkey chaser that will also date cis people
PORRIM MARYAM
two choices: cool goth transbian or lesbian terf
cool goth transbian is the nice one. first off, she looks a lot like some transfem transition goals ive seen online.
second, cool feminist could also be trans rights and trans people are kinda forced into being political
third, being flat as a board could also be interpreted as her just not having tits (tho she does seem like the type to DIY HRT)
TERF porrim (correct): first, a lot of "feminists" turn out to be bitchy to trans people
second, her activism for groups she's a part of and groups she likes is good, but she really infantilizes kankri, and considering that's the beforan equivalent of hemoracism, if trans people didn't fit her motto she would not hesitate to shit on them
LATULA PYROPE
cis girl. maybe she/they
ARANEA SERKET:
trans girl serkets trans girl serkets
would also buy cis girl that makes you wonder if she's actually a repressed ftm because some of her actions are a littttttttle suspicious
HORRUS ZAHHAK
cis man who ends up hanging out with a lot of trans women anyway due to shared intrests in hyperpop and furry stuff
again very respectful, very small chance that he's chaser-y
KURLOZ MAKARA
i honestly do not know and this isnt because i dont really care about his character, it just evades me
transcends gender
could be cis woman, fuck if i know. i'd buy that
all and neither a gender above our human comprehension
CRONUS AMPORA
trans man that proves tboys are real men because they can be just as creepy and awful as cis men
thinks him being trans means he's immune to all types of discrimination
uses it a pity point/to get out of stuff
MEENAH PEIXIES
maybe tgirl? idk
may just be cis
possibly transmasc nonbinary
tho i lean mostly towards cis woman whos gnc and actually cool with trans peopel (be aware she will still groom them tho)
equal opportunity grooming
CALLIOPE
technically transfem anyway because her body isn't sexed so shes kinda intersex
but even if she wasnt a cherub she would still be transfem anyway
chronically online transgirl who spends most of her time in internet spaces with cis girls of her same age
warrior cats fan
humanstuck calliope hung around the warrior cats girls since elementary and never left
CALIBORN
evil trans man
transmasc for same reasons as calliope
humanstuck caliborn avoided all female socialization because he didn't socialize and instead spent his formative years on 4chan
the nature of the /lgbt/ board probably gave him some shame about being ftm
DAD EGBERT and crocker as well, very similar people
cis man who is a staunch ally
MOM LALONDE
cis ally
she's trying? can't say anything more
will occasionally and unintentionally say some out of pocket shit about trans people she knows when drunk
will mess up the pronouns a lot because very scatterbrained
GRANPA HARLEY:
cis man who lowkey fetishizes trans people
straight but fucks non-passing transmen because he doesn't see them as men
trans women are some exotic fetish
if jade came out he would repair his ways tho
NANNA EGBERT
transphobic
not even a terf because she has beef with feminists
but again if john or jane came out she would badger them at first but her love would win out and she would change her views
BRO STRIDER
personally i see him as a cis man but i think trans man bro strider is cool and also an icon
DIRK'S BRO:
cis bisexual man who is cool with trans people
ROXY'S MOM:
cis woman who is in a fucked up evil messy situationship with a transgirl
will trans rights
GRANDMA ENGLISH:
either a. elder trans woman
or b. cis woman (a little nonbinary) who is accepting
does not know the terminology
"oh so you want to live as a woman now? alright, i suppose. i had a friend like that back in college"
HIC:
evil elder trans woman who has an illegal diy hrt empire
will sell out the trans community if it benefits her
grifter
LIL CAL
i dont know it s scary
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sweet-cuddlebug · 6 days
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Soooo Gamzee :o)
I was thinking, like I rarely do, and
Gameez's …. reasons? "Why"s? I don't know
Non present lusus (Negligence) [Canon]
Fear of loneliness (Abandonment) [Suspicion]
Hearing voices? (I mean before the game. Mental disability? Practically magic?) [Canon? Theory? I don't remember if it was mentioned in the comic or if it was a guess]
Addiction to sopor slime (Coping, badly) [Canon, more or less]
Juggalo religion (Coping, badly) [Canon, more or less]
Verbal abuse (Other trolls) [Canon, right??]
Sudden Sobriety (Bad reality check) [Canon, right?]
Rage (Bad reality check x2 thanks Dave) [Canon]
Manipulation (Lil Cal) [Canon]
Exposure to murder and toxic beliefs (Lil Cal) [Canon, more or less? The second one was a theory?]
Corpse manipulation (Coping? Out of his mind?) [Canon]
Toxic relationship (Kismesitude with Terezi) [Canon]
Bad relationship (Moiraliganse with Karkat) [Canon]
Mind Control (Aranea) [Canon]
Physical Abuse (Caliborn) [Canon]
Minor (everything mentioned above happened when he was 13 years old, less or around that age) [FUCKING CANON OMG]
Other things happened, like his flushed interest dying at the hands of someone he's supposedly afraid of, and being trapped in a refrigerator with other corpses, or being revealed to him that he is the supposed god of his religion and that he is destined to hurt others or something like that, but I forgot to put those :3
I created this list of events, facts and data (some canon, some theories, some speculation) to try to better understand Gamzee's character and maybe create an AU or something similar where everyone has a happy ending, just for me :]
I invite you to talk more in depth about these points, verify their canonicity, or speculate theories. If you want!
@minu-moni @bunnytriestoanimateyt @autisticsupervillain @a-little-too-sillay
Omfg im tagging motherfuckers hiiii
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homeshippinglikeapro · 5 months
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Badly screenshoted lol, also, when/if you open a req blog, let me know! (If you want to of course) I'm always so happy to inspire people to open their own blogs :D
Anyways, I tried to NOT make this post 1-3k long, cuz I can talk about solkat for literal hours and not got tired.
I have SO MANY favourites headcanons!!
Solkat movie days, where Sollux goes to KK's hive and watch movies together (Karkat's romcoms of course, because Sollux doesn't have the right to choice). I even did a little comic about it, but never posted it (and I'm not sure if I will, lol, since it's on paper + in italian).
I LOVE the headcanon where Karkat helps Sollux when he has hallucinations by screaming the "doomed's voices" away.
I read once a fanfic where Karkat was the one responsible to cut Sollux's hair everytime (I don't remember the fic I'm sorry), and I love that too!! It will really explain why Sollux's haircut is so shitty.
The fanon/basically canon that we ALL agree with is Karkat taking care of Sollux when he doesn't sleep, eat, shower, etc. I mean, there's a dialogue in the original comic where Karkat says that "he has saved Sollux plenty of times before", but we never see those "times" (and Sollux doesn't say anything about it being "false" or something), so it makes sense!
Then, a fanon that I hate? Difficult to say, since the good part of this ship is the fact that is so versatile, you can do anything with it! I might say that it bothers me a little when people ships them as matesprits and nothing else (like not even a quadrant vacillation), because it feels reductive, but I don't mind it so much at the end.
I HOPE IT WASN'T TOO LONG I CAN REALLY GO ON TOO MUCH WHEN IT'S THEM AKSJKSJSN
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airprime7 · 1 year
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I want to talk about the Prince of Doom
What is Doom?
Doom is mostly interpreted as death, destruction, general sadness and negative things. It’s the opposite of Life, right? So obviously it’s bad, because Life is good.
That’s sort of right.
Doom isn’t the language of death, it’s the language of endings. This is in part shown by the programming language ~ATH, which John, Karkat, and specifically Sollux are versed in.
~ATH is a language made of almost exclusively infinite loops which can only be escaped, and thereby activate an operation through the death of something, be it the user, the computer, or the Universe. But what’s not important is that something has died. As the saying (lyrics) goes “All who die come back again.” Death in Homestuck is never permanent. Double death, perhaps, but standard death? You’ve got dream selves, god tiers, dream bubbles, and Life players. No, death isn’t what’s important: an ending is. The end of something’s life, coinciding with the end of a loop. And with it, the beginning of something else.
Doom also relates to the Doomed timelines (although Mind and Time also have claim to their existences, and Light to a degree too). Doomed timelines represent and incorrect series of events or choices, which would cause paradoxes, breaking or ending a loop, much like in ~ATH. It’s also the end for everyone within the timeline: either they die, are erased for existence, and have to change to escape: Rose becoming memories passed onto her Alpha Dream Self, and Dave more obviously becoming a Sprite to avoid culling by Skaia. Both of these are an end leading to a new beginning.
So Doom is about endings. Sollux, the Mage of Doom, who knows passively about his aspect and suffers through it, has lots of endings. He dies before entering the game, symbolising the end of his life (and the beginning of a new one as his dream self), the end of Alternia’s relevance in the story (until 5 carapacians and a host of leprachauns arrive, beginning a completely different story) and the end of the trolls first mission of entering the Medium, which leads to the beginning of their journey to win the game. Later, he faces Eridan in a duel, and loses, bringing an end to their feud and an end to Sollux’s troubles with voices, and his Psionics. These are respectively replaced with Eridan and Kanaya’s conflict (although it is short lived), his new problems with bifurcation, and his blindness. What’s more, moments later both his love and his best friend die at the hands of Eridan. But for both of them, this end is but a new beginning, with Feferi taking her place in the dream bubbles, her creation of Life after Doom, and Kanaya gaining her Rainbow drinker abilities, a new beginning for her.
Mituna is our other canon Doom player, and he is the Heir of it, the one who passively changes, and becomes. I’m not that well versed in his story, but from what I remember, he sacrifices himself and his Psionics to stop some great threat to the A1 session, thus changing the ending to be Meenah's (the Thief of Life’s) instead (the sacrifice and loss of power also mirrors Sollux and the Ψiioniic’s, where they both expend their power and lives to send a meteor or ship at great speeds through space to where they need to be). In turn, he's also become "Doom", in this case taking on the form of negativity (which still applies to it). He's outwardly mean, offensive, and aggressive toward Meenah, and presumably the other trolls too. The only exceptions to this are Latula, his matesprit, who as the Knight of Mind would perhaps be able to interpret his inner thoughts, and Cronus, who… well Mituna still was rude to him, but let’s say Cronus was worse.
So that’s it for Doom, at least canonically. What about the Prince?
The Prince is a class we have a lot of information on, thanks to Calliope’s analysis on it. It’s framed as the active destroyer of things, who destroys their aspect primarily in themself, or occasionally others for personal gain (although this latter ability fits better with the passive counterpart, the Bard, destroyer through the aspect or within others for benefit of other, in Gamzee’s case benefit of Lord English).
Dirk, Prince of Heart, destroys his romantic prospects with Jake, and his own Heart, in this case taking on the meaning of “Soul” by splintering himself: into Hal; across both his Dream and Real selves simultaneously; into Brain Ghost Dirk; and more, such as Lil Cal being both Lord English, Doc Scratch, and Lord Jack. And furthermore, he’s cold and calculating (or tries to be), tenets of Mind, the opposite of Heart, as Princes tend to invert their aspects.
Eridan, the Prince of Hope, destroys his own Hope for the future by messing up his relationships with Feferi and Vriska, literally destroys the Angels on his land, who are personifications of Hope, and begins Murderstuck (yes I know Vriska did it first, but she only set Terezi into action, whereas Eridan caused a butterfly effect leading to his, Equius, Nepeta and Sollux’s deaths through Karkat and Kanaya’s actions, other than the ones he directly killed) through the murder of arguably the most positive troll, and the HOPESPLOSION of the Matriorb, Kanaya’s Hope for revitalising the troll species. Later, Erisol also contributes to the death of Fefeta, once again a positive ray of Hope in a dark session, although he was helped by another Prince: AR, Prince of Heart, ripping apart two souls in one sprite.
Finally, Kurloz, the Prince of Rage. I can’t say much on him, but I interpret him as destroying his own Rage, his own strong emotions, by limiting the effect he can have directly on other people through the sewing up of his mouth. He also may have has something to do with Mituna’s Rage and anger, although to me that fits more to perhaps a Maid’s role, creating Rage in others.
So, what happens if you put these two together? Well, a Prince of Doom would be one who actively is capable of destroying their own Doom. On the surface level, there’s one clear interpretation of this: Immortality. But hang on, really? Surely immortality is a concept applied to every character, conditionally of course, once they ascend to God Tier. Well, yes, but that’s not what this means. For one, God Tiers can still die. They can be cut, they bleed, they die, and then they come back. The end leads to a new beginning. But a Prince of Doom? They have no end. They destroy their own doom, any danger to them, anything that could harm them, simply doesn’t work. Perhaps any death they would befall as a God Tier (other than one Heroic or Just, as those rules must still stand) simply has no effect at all. No revival is needed if you never died, a forever Life, inverting their aspect like a true Prince.
But also there’s another meaning. Immortality has a double meaning, as my Monster Manual can tell me. Forgive the slight detour:
The Marid poured out of the flask like water and said, ‘Your wish is my command.’ The Halfling, overjoyed, wished for immortality, so the Marid polymorphed him into a fish that flopped around humorously until, finally, it expired. It’s a cautionary tale that has survived the ages, so I suppose the halfling got his wish.” - Kesto Brighteyes, Gnome proprietor of the Parted Veil, a bookshop in Sigil
This story doesn’t speak of literal Immortality, like the halfling wanted, but rather narrative Immortality. The story lives on forevermore. So a Prince of Doom’s story could, perhaps, never end. Even after their passing, “The legend will never die!” to quote Puss in Boots. So a Prince of Doom tells a good story. Maybe not even one they’re the main character of (they’re no Light player, they don’t need the spotlight), but one that lives on because of them.
(Oh, by the way, screw gendered classing, a Prince can be any gender.)
Finally, there’s one last interpretation I can think of for the Prince of Doom. We’ve discussed their physical ability, their narrative position, but what of their self? The character of one who destroys their own ending? Simple: they don’t grown up. Sburb is about change and grown, death of the old self and becoming the new one. Some take to this well, but for someone who’s self can’t die, can’t end? They’re stuck, like Caliborn was. Now this isn’t certainly a bad thing. Doom players are often the most serious of the group, next to Time and Space, the same with Princes, so the Prince of Doom knows to be serious when it’s needed. But generally? They’re having the time of their life. They’re a child, mostly in a good way, full of Life (see that Princely inversion) and colour. It may make their quest harder; the point would have a difficult time getting through to them; but in the end a Prince of Doom is who they are, basically forever. Some may take that as a sign of immaturity, some conviction. It’s up to the author of the story to decide which their Prince takes on.
I wrote this for the @413countdown, and you’ll notice I’m a day late. Whoops. Anyway, it was really fun to take a detailed dive into a classpect. I may consider doing others at another time, but this was good for now. If anyone has any other differing interpretations of a Prince of Doom, that’s perfectly fine. That doesn’t make them or me wrong, because Sburb is a game with thousands of possible variations. Not every Heir of Breath will work like John Egbert, and not every Dave Strider is a Knight of Time!
Anyway, I don’t know how to end this.
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blinxbat · 1 year
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I've decided that all those homsetuck animatics voiced by 12 year olds are canon voices for the characters because that's how old they are in the comic. Yes Karkat sounds like a kid trying to be cool while also constantly having his voice crack, you know it's true. Same with Dave but every time his voice cracks he coughs violently to disguise it.
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davekat-sucks · 4 months
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agreed completely with last anon. i think the problem is, or at least what could have caused all of these misunderstandings and miscommunications, is that the truth is that Hussie has never been really good at writing character arcs, what he IS good at is at writing memorable characters with unique voices and visually appealing simple designs. and that's because, technically, he somewhat stole them from other media or started from referencing character tropes from old movies, homestuck has always been a mix of many different 80-90s media. so for example, the humans are stereotypical movie/comic characters (john= dorky nerd protag, dave = cool best friend, rose = snarky goth, jade = girl next door), and that's what makes the audience instantly like them, because they are familiar, but, at the time, modernized in a way that was actually entertaining with in-depth interests, different viewpoints, and funny chemistry. it's all that has worked for years concentrated in an easy to digest mold that gave it the potential to be something more than usual. and yet, john, jade and rose had ZERO character growth, dave had negative and became a fucking douchebag, and these four don't even act like friends anymore by the end of the story. what the fuck.
it also happened with the trolls, because as i said before, how did the "chosen one" character that was said to be caring and the second coming of christ ended up as admiring the tyrannical ruler that genocided his race and did nothing afterwards except be dave's sidepiece and never talking to his friends again. who the fuck would like that for a conclusion to his story? there is nothing satisfying about it, why should i now be invested in Karkat in hs2, if he is a bad friend with bad morals that ends up amounting to nothing? Hussie wrote that i shouldn't, that's what i get for assuming real people have character arcs, karkat was never meant to be a leader, but sea hitler jr, meenah, sure was.
that's what makes it unlikable and what causes disconnect between fans. he subverted not only the trope, but also the little character building he himself wrote, and ended up with confusing themes. he didn't do the hard job of keeping a consistent structured plot until the end, he just applied twists as convenient to act smugly cynical about it afterwards, like he's allergic to sincerity. you also see this with how he treated johnrose/davejade or karezi, or how he says davekat and now june were always meant to happen all along.
and so, what some fans like about karkat or dave, for example, is not what they actually achieved or did in the source story, because they ended up with nothing and also their wiki page was too long to read, but the fandom idealization of them. and that's how you get the wildly ooc dialogue you see in hs2, the writers see nothing wrong with this, dont understand how to separate their personal bias from these characters or what was actually appealing about them in the first place, and what we end up with are projections of who THEY would like to see in a story: characters that act like the writers themselves. hollow self-centered assholes with no sense of humour disconnected from reality that communicate via twitter memes, therapy speak, and the trendy political issue of the day, all so they can pat each other on the back and feel better about amounting to very little in life too, now with semi-canonical homestuck facepaint on.
sorry for the armchair psychology, but my conclusion is, what closure i try to give myself from this shitpile of a franchise, is to view it as a cautionary tale of caving to social pressure and treating people that find value in your work like shit. homestuck ended in a very unsatisfying way for many, and it continues to get worse because it's easier to call someone a bigot and double down on your beliefs than concede you made a mistake, wasted so much time and have no idea how to fix it.
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Yes to everything said here! Say it loud for everyone to hear! I dislike when Hussie or people use the excuse that he was just SUBVERTING expectations. Not questioning on why even built it up in the first place if it meant NOTHING at all. It's a complete waste of time. And not in an ironic sense. A waste of time and emotion audiences felt before being slapped in the face and kicked in the balls for even caring. Like, I know Hussie is known for trolling. He made himself as this asshole-but-likeable persona for some time even prior to Homestuck. Sadly, this is probably one of the few times it wouldn't have worked if it means damaging your reputation in the long run. And I don't mean the edge humor he throws into the comic. I mean the treatment towards his fans where there's not much genuine sincerity and it's all asshole mode that it's hard to tell if it's joking or truly being hostile. He could have said he would like to be left alone, but perhaps pride and fame got in the way for him to say that. Even when it was the large amount of fans that made him feel pressured in the first place. I don't know how James or anyone in the team can really fix this mess without addressing problems people had with the series overtime. And not just stuff from Epilogues or Homestuck^2, but address things that were never answered or felt anticlimactic from the base webcomic.
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hi! are you looking for a homestuck roleplay server? perhaps with plot and interesting not-quite-canon lore? or maybe you don't even like roleplay, but need a homestuck themed server to hang out in?
join the land of wisps and meadows!!
we have plenty of categories, including art, music, writing/reading, gaming, and the roleplay of course!
more about the roleplay:
the aspects are personified into gods, and using their control over reality, they reform earth b to be habitable and bring the post-retcon cast to it, being: JOHN, ROSE, DAVE, JADE, JANE, JAKE, ROXY, DIRK, KARKAT, KANAYA, TEREZI, VRISKA, GAMZEE, ARQUIUSPRITE, TAVROSPRITE, JASPROSESPRITE, AND WANDERING VAGABOND. (these are the high importance characters and the ones we are trying to fill, dave is already taken). of course, through further time shenanigans, others appear over time as well. server is 13+ and all homestuck fans are welcome!!!
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unskilledpoint · 7 months
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changed the canon voice. its. uh. gabriel ultrakill when theyre not yelling, when they aer its still karkat.
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thewertsearch · 1 year
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Asks Compilation - 28/11
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Exactly! I'd jump at the chance to plan an officially licensed game of Kernels & Kingdoms.
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Reading the comic the way I am has honestly been a ride. It's part book club, part English class, and part fandom speedrun - and I think it makes for a really unique experience.
I'm glad I have thousand of pages to go. I'm really going to miss this when it's gone - not that that's something I have to worry about anytime soon!
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Based on my current understanding of auspisticism, I think he'd be a good one. It would be pretty hard to build up a rivalry when Karkat is yelling petty bullshit at you both.
Plus, listening to him him deconstruct the motivating factors behind your quadrant crushes would kill all four of the moods.
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I think you're on the money. I'd be shocked if Vriska ever planned to use her mind control that way.
In the heat of the moment, it almost happened - and then it didn't.
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A master of Spadekind would be able to summon their kismesis from their Strife Deck directly. Perhaps they would have powers derived from the unique nature of your relationship, and fight on your behalf like a St
*The remainder of this message has been expunged, lest 2016 Sal rise from the depths of her Jojo phase and wreak havoc on us all.*
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I think that'd make for an interesting troll quirk, actually. Imagine a troll who talks completely normally, but their quirk script censors their conversational partner's messages.
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It's odd to imagine that, in a framework defined by its romantic nature, there would be relationships that aren't so romantic.
I assume that different trolls have different views on moirallegiance - and maybe, in Eridan's opinion, it's less romantic or desirable than matespritship.
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These comparisons are all great.
Ianthe is an interesting character to compare with Vriska. She's a lot more guarded, and a lot less openly remorseful about what she does - but only one of these girls is known to cry herself to sleep, and it's not the one you'd expect.
Also, I'm honestly losing my mind a little at the Gideon shades reveal. If I recall correctly, she found them on the Ninth, and they were described as ancient. There's a small but real chance that they're canonically the Ben Stiller shades.
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Batman: You think you're my greatest enemy? Joker: Who else drives you to one-up them the way I do? Batman: Superman. Joker: Superman's not a bad guy! Batman: I like to fight around. Joker: You're seriously saying that there's nothing special about us?
Hey, what the fuck, you're right!
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Oh, that's fun. I didn't know Zuko's voice actor was in anything big before Avatar!
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Thank you! I don't often get away these days, so it was nice to be abroad for once.
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Karkat's quadrant explanation was apparently a near-verbatim recreation of the comic's, so an argument can be made that we're hearing Karkat's understanding of the quadrants, and not the 'objective' understanding of an omniscient narrator.
Which makes sense, really. Relationships are complicated, messy, and can only really be defined by the individuals participating in them. There can't really be an 'objectively correct' definition of a given quadrant, because every troll's understanding of their own relationships will differ, in a million subtle ways.
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They're teenagers, so probably not. Karkat's understanding of quadrants seems mostly academic - he doesn't seem to have much first-hand experience.
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In some ways, moirallegiance does seem a lot like a queerplatonic relationship. I guess on Alternia, one difference is that moirallegiance has a defined purpose - pacifying violent trolls - whereas each qpr is uniquely defined by those who participate in it.
However, like I said above, different trolls are going to view the quadrants in different ways. Perhaps there are trolls who form non-traditional moirallegiances, like the one anon described above. There's nothing stopping a troll from defining a relationship like that, other than societal pressure - and that doesn't stop humans, so why would it stop trolls?
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Adding 'em to the list!
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I'm willing to accept that I was just factually wrong about Peixes - but I'm happy to be vindicated on Vrish-ka!
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Good abomination. Best mom.
I've got to say, I'd be interested in seeing how a horrorterror(-adjacent) being would raise a troll. I'm still not convinced she's a 'true' lusus, and I have an inkling that Feferi is going to be a particularly strange troll as a result, even among the Players.
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I think, for mature trolls - ones who who understand the practical and emotional risks - the idea of having a partner who is also your designated rival might actually work. After all, partners and rivals both inspire you to be better, so there's some synergy there.
It's just not, as you say, something that teenagers should be involving themselves in. If they didn't need to do so to survive, I'm sure a lot of them would opt out of the system.
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It is interesting that they're friends, isn't it? They seem to have an established relationship, so maybe Kanaya sees something in him that I don't - or maybe we're seeing him on a particularly bad day, and he's not always like this.
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Probably still Rose, although Kanaya is getting close to challenging her position.
Definitely the one that prompted my alchemy spree.
Alchemy, closely followed by ectobiology. The two are pretty closely related - they're interesting ways to 'combine' things.
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I have a list of unclosed time-loops, although they're more prophecies than Chekhov's guns.
I don't think Homestuck really has any deliberate Guns. Hussie is pretty open about this - the story is intentionally chock full of details that might be important later, and some of them will be - but you won't be able to figure out which, because even the author doesn't know until closer to the time.
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You will flip a DOUBLE-HEADED TROLL CAEGAR to decide his fate.
Nice catch!
Unlike the other troll celebrity cameos, this one sort has some interesting implications. If Alternia is using these coins, maybe the dominant civilization still considers itself to be descended from of the Troll Roman Empire.
I mean, look at what they're doing - expanding across the universe, the same way the Empire tried to expand over Earth.
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aqua2fana · 1 year
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Homestuck race/ethnicity nationality headcanons
Since the beta/alpha kids are like pure white in the comics my brain immediately envisioned them as white and unfortunately it’s still the first place my mind goes but I do like to think most of them aren’t totally white
The trolls are based mostly on canon references, vibes, their lands in sburb, and their dancestors
John and Jane: white | polish/dutch | american (washington)
They’re white and nerdy sorry
Rose and Roxy: white/middle eastern | french/egyptian | american (new york)
I’m all for french lalondes but I also remembered Roxy’s planet had pyramids and decided they were Egyptian too
Dave and Dirk: white/east asian | spanish/japanese | american (texas)
The striders live in Texas so they’re most likely Spanish descent but they also reference Japanese culture so often that I just had to include it
Jade and Jake: white/pacific islander | english/tongan | american (phoenix islands)
The Britishness is from Jake and the polynesian part is from jade, they’re tan af
Aradia: latina/east asian | mexican/japanese | japanese
I know that canonically she’s supposed to be Japanese so she is part japanese but the dark curly hair, desert climate, obsession with death (day of the dead) made me assume she was Latina the first time I read the comic 🤷‍♀️
Tavros: latino/southeast asian | mexican/filipino | mexican
Man’s obviously latino and I made him Filipino because the actor rufioh is based off is filipino
Sollux: white/east asian | french/korean | canadian (quebec)
French because I immediately decided he was Canadian so french is statistically likely but he also has some Asian vibes so I chose the one country that’s split in two, obviously
Karkat: white | romanian/jewish | american (maine)
Karkat is super pale in such a way that his eye bags are extremely noticeable. He’s Romanian as a reference to vlad the impaler and all the castle ruins in Romania which remind me of his land. He’s Jewish for vibe reasons. Maine for lobsters and and crabs 🦀
Nepeta: white | english/german | american (tennessee)
Because I picture her with blonde hair (like a lions mane). She lives near the Smokey mountains where there are a small population of mountain lions and she’s a crazy wilderness explorer. Think of how cute she’d be with a Tennessee accent
Kanaya: south asian/middle eastern | indian/iranian | american (pennsylvania)
Vibes, imagine her in a sari or any other traditional Indian clothes, she’d be stunning
Terezi: white | greek/irish | greek
The scales, democracy, hello? Also she’s absolutely a red head
Vriska: white | greek/turkish | cypriot
Vriska is definitely white and she’s a pirate so instead of Caribbean (which is mostly black) she’s Mediterranean.
Equius: black | sudanese | american (kentucky)
He’s definitely black and he has locs like you wouldn’t believe. Kentucky because of mammoth cave as a reference to his land and also because of the horse derby
Gamzee: black/white | beninese/portuguese | brazilian
Hes definitely black coded in some ways but the icp are white sooo he’s both. I made him Brazilian for carnival
Eridan: white | scottish/english | american (california)
It’s giving imperialism and Silicon Valley simultaneously
Feferi: white/black | italian/trinidadian | italian
The only reason she’s half white is because I picture her with this light red strawberry blonde hair and it’s also a reference to the Roman Empire. She’s Trinidadian because I headcanon meenah as having a voice like nicki minaj
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fadeintocase · 1 year
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Are you the official VA for karkat? You two look and sound so similar i can't believe you're different people!
I mean technically sort of official lol. they used my voice in an ad for pesterquest back in 2019 or something and i got told by the team at the time that i was now canon karkat and then i never really did anything else homestuck related after all that happened. casey mongillo, who has also done voices for auxiliary homestuck media since then, is not me though.
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acearadiamegido · 10 months
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the ORIGINAL homestuck otp for me ofc we got a bingo
more detailed infodumping under the cut
-so first off i don’t have to do much to make it fucked up. the whole “sollux getting mind controlled into killing aradia” thing is already pretty fucked up. but idk i also think about how, like, at a certain point, aradia knew the game would destroy alternia, and decided she just wasn’t going to tell sollux, and encourage him to finish programming it anyway. and like obviously playing sgrub was the only way to save their friends and all that but still she could’ve like…. TOLD him this huge element of what he was doing. Not to mention that when he finally came around to participating she put him to sleep which a) made him get enough mind honey in his mouth that he blew up the roof of his apartment and killed his lusus and b) cost him enough time getting INTO the game that it probably contributed a lot to him dying in the vast glub. AND AGAIN she only really did any of this because she knew the alternative was a doomed timeline, but like. there’s some major betrayal of trust there! there’s like. this element of mirroring between vriska forcing sollux’s hand into hurting aradia, and fate/the timeline/the voices/etc forcing aradia to do some real sketchy shit to sollux, and BRO it makes me go fucking insane (which is another point on the bingo board lol)
-basically canon: i dont think this needs much more explanation. look at them. i guess i can also get into the “idk what their relationship is” thing tho like. they are CLEARLY… something. maybe its pale maybe its red but frankly neither of them seems like the kind of person that would consider it important to define it. they just, like. want to be together and be a part of each other’s lives and they don’t seem too picky about what that looks like as long as they’re together. and i eat that shit RIGHT up bro.
-this is also kind of the ethos for “theyre not dating but they’re married” like FRANKLY. i like to interpret them as like. idk simply being so damn comfy and domestic with each other at a certain point that it doesn’t actually occur to them to like… have a Discrete Conversation in which they determine that they are a couple. like maybe one or both of them intends to bring it up someday at the beginning but eventually they have just been so deeply entwined in each others’ lives that like. it would be weird to bring up since they’re basically already just married. they’re a unit. do not separate them. bonded pair. adopt together ONLY.
-i can make it so stupid: look. they are also really fucking funny together. literally just read their pesterlogs together and tell me they arent constantly arguing (recreationally not like. actually heated arguments) about dumb shit and teasing each other because they both DO dumb shit. they are utter dweebs. aradia says shit like “i think your outfit looks quite spiffy” unironically. sollux has his own goddamn custom emotes for when he makes bad puns. i love them
-thematically delicious: its about being doomed. its about loss of agency. its about being sacrificed for the greater good over and over and then one day freeing yourself from the cycle. its about being one of the few who live to the end of the story but only because you decided to leave the story. OUGH.
-the inherent eroticism of attempted murder: i think people forget that when terezi originally decided to kill vriska to avenge aradia’s death, sollux was the one she enlisted to trace doc scratch’s typewriter. he was like, involved in that murder attempt. it didnt work of course but like dude fully intended to help kill vriska. arasol is “tried to kill vriska” solidarity
- theyre sweet/the devotion: bro sollux didnt go on the meteor with karkat kanaya and terezi because he wanted to reconnect with aradia. karkat kanaya and terezi are like. arguably the dude’s best fucking friends. he just exploded his whole brain out of his face to save them and then he sees aradia and is like well. i think thats enough self-sacrifice for one day. maybe i will actually just relax now. LIKE COME ON!!!!! they are out there for potentially eternity floating thru the bubbles, which are inherently transient and impermanent, and there is no truly stable place for them to anchor except each other like god DAMN dude. i am mentally unwell about it.
anyway this is what happens when you think about 2 characters holding hands for like, 11-12 years straight.
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gendertrickster · 2 years
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aradia's gender is morpho knight from kirby tavros's gender is *ocarina of time voice* fairy boy sollux is bigender that's just obvious karkat gets a little he/she with it nepeta would've had the most tboy swag in the world (see: davepeta) kanaya's gender is the entire butch/femme spectrum at once terezi's gender is the way people on twitter draw saul goodman vriska's gender is canonically F with eight exclamation points equius's gender is like if a horse had no reason to fear god gamzee is clowngender but not in an ironic way eridan is. um. i'll come back to that one. feferi's gender is like if a fish
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strawberrymarss · 3 months
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THE SCIENCE GALS!!
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My lil silly dexters lab ocs from february 2023!! The cropping is bad because I originally posted them on my alt instagram acc😭
Going from left to right.. their names are Debbie and Cerebella(they are lesbian wlw queens), they are basically just minor contrasting foils to both Dexter and Mandark.
They both came from the northeast part of the US and are basically just visiting Dexter’s hometown for some science conventions.
I love how they are both able to make significant changes in the world with both of their ideas and intellect and contribute to society but they use it instead to kinda flex on others subtly, like how any kid were if they were that smart💀
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Enter Debbie…
Debbie is just as arrogant as Dexter but she is somewhat manipulative and uses it towards trying to persuade people that she is right. Debbie may also come across as overreactive and that makes her feels like the world is against her, and that she is unfairly treated when she is defending herself or Cerebella aggressively.
flaws : self-absorbed,competitive,depends on social validation,defensive
Debbie shows great care into being Cerebella’s best friend. This shows she has compassion and care to people she likes or on her side of thinking things.
Positives :Confident,outspoken,witty,opinionated,sociable
Debbie is more of a mechanic-gadgety type scientist than anything, she enjoys upgrading automobiles like cars just to race and look cute in,she spent a lot of time perfecting this from her family not being well off and not having nice luxury items so she took up this hobby by herself.
fun facts and head canons lol
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her full name is Deborah Robbins but is mostly known as “Debbie”
Debbie is 14 years old
she is like 5’2” and is slightly taller than mandark
is irish & British
her family is kinda poor
has a jersey/british mixed accent idk how to describe it, I just thought it would sound funny with Dexter’s thick european accent in a interaction
my hc for her voice is broadway karkat or kurokuma
hc that people constantly mistake her for being related to dexter just by being a ginger by default
hc that she constantly makes fun of dexter and mandark for being like 3 to 4 years younger than her
Is a certified girlboss and girlfailure and procrastinates 50% of the the time when she is doing another project
her birthday is March 30th
Debbie comes up with the most absolute brutal diabolical comebacks in a argument
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Enter Cerebella…
Cerebella quite literally is the most meek,weak and cowardly girl ever. She is the complete 360 opposite of mandark, basically the yin to his yang as a foil to him. Cerebella mostly talks to Debbie but she is somewhat open to talking to new people. She is always following what Debbie says for the fun of it, always trying to make whoever they are up against look stupid just for some lolz.
flaws:follower,cowardly,sensitive,fearful,indecisive
Cerebella is a perfectionist when it comes to studying and doing research as a medical scientist, always striving for accurate details and all.
Cerebella struggles at believing that she is capable at being a scientist which makes her doubtful in her own abilities, she spends most of her time obsessively improving herself.
positives :perfectionist,loyal,hardworking,careful
Cerebella is a medical based scientist, she takes a lot of time and gets somewhat annoyed studying it to hopefully be a doctor or a nurse in the rest of her family.
fun facts and head canons 2
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full name is Cerebella Hathai
Cerebella is 13 years old
she is Thai (Thailand)
she is 4’8 which makes her about the same height as dexter
cerebella spends all of her time reading detective novels, to become her idol sherlock holmes
she is basically a nepo baby and her family is quite wealthy with the money that they make in the medical business, and they want her to continue their legacy
her hair is actually black but purple worked better in her design
always gets told that she is like 8 years old
hc that she cries when getting yelled at no matter who the person is
her birthday is February 11th
always hypes up Debbie wether she is winning or nah
[EXTRAS] funky relationship chart
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i didn’t add dee dee because they probably don’t share any interest in talking to her lol so both arrows grey (neutral)
anywaysss i hope you guys like them + i added some extra designs for Debbie in ego trip
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OK ACTUALLY BYE SEE U GUYS IN MY NEXT BLOG <3
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