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cult-of-the-eye · 7 months
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I'm losing my mind thinking about Jon terrified out of his mind in the tunnels where his predecessor got fucking murdered, being chased by a fucking monster that he accidentally unleashed, with only a tape recorder and a fucking metal pipe. My bro is in need of buckets of therapy
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loktauri · 1 month
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Tma au where nothing is wrong ever and Jon gets to pet as many cats as he likes
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bravevolunteer · 2 months
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michael tma au. sacrificial lamb to the stranger somehow emerges a desolation avatar. how'd ya fuck that one up that badly
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chocochococoffee · 1 year
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funny stuff, i don't care about anyone in tma but about the statements mostly. the rest just happens i guess, mostly. when the stories became too character focused i skimmed thru, hoping there were more statements in the future. hopefully about the buried. i love the buried. so when jon was out the coffin after that funny visit to meatman i just lost interest... i didnt care enough about martin and his lonely drama. and THEN part 5 became a goddamn sitcom, worse with martins snippy comments (im sure there was a laugh track there). basira? alice? good for them to be there i guess. the ending? not as good as the sitcom cheekiness of martin and annabelle.
tma best part were the statements themselves, i just didnt enjoy enough the character drama, felt it was dry. too dry.
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portuguesedisaster · 2 years
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MELAINE KINGGGGG. The ghost lady is back in a statement about darkness eating people. If this is not the fear of darkness :)
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honey-siren · 3 months
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The fact that Malevolent doesn't have the massive following TMA did is insane to me.
It has body-sharing. It has cults. It has lovecraftian monstrosities. It has humanizing demons and demonizing humans. It has homoerotic tension. It's got it all babe!
Listen to Malevolent for a good time, a great story, and sexy voice acting
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autismprotocol · 6 days
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TMAG Theory Board Update (EP 11-12)
Hi guys sorry about the late posting I've just started a new quarter of college and its been pretty hectic. also got into my school design BFA program so pretty stoked about that! Anyways lets get into the Episode Breakdowns because even though not a lot of lore related things happened I still have a lot to talk about
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For the breakdown I'll separate each by episode in sequential order
What Happened in Episode 11: Marked
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Celias Rude Awakening- we jump right into the weirdness straight away with Celia waking up on the side of the interstate. she indicates that this is not a weird occurrence and ends the scene by telling someone named Jack that she's "on her way." If you remember episode 8 after Celia and Sam talk to Gerry and Gertrude, she mentions stuff about wanting help with her own mystery. When Sam asks about it she says she's looking into Time travel, other dimentions and teleportation. Many people have theorized that maybe Celia is just a super heavy sleepwalker, but I think the she teleports random places out of nowhere. This could be a side effect of her reality hopping if this Celia is originally from The archives universe.
As for the identity of Jack I'm not quite sure about that yet. I cross referenced the name Jack with past episodes of TMA. The only thing that came up was Jack Barnabas from the statement about dating Agnes Montague (aka an avatar of the desolation and Jesus-like figure for the cult of the lightless flame) So Unless Celia is secretly Agnes of Agnes reincarnated , I can't find any way to link Barnabas to Celia. (if anyone has a theory feel free to send it my way.)
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Sam Lore- this one is pretty minor story-wise but I thought it was interesting. Before the statement for the episode is presented we get some classic Sam and Alice Banter ™ most of it is pretty lighthearted but I noticed Sam mention something that could indicate he might be an amputee.
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These could not mean anything and I find it weird that it hasn't been mentioned until now but thought it was kind of cool and I will probably be drawing sam with a prothetic leg in the future cause I really like this head-canon. It also begs to question if he is missing a leg. it might have anything to do with his past as a Magnus institute test subject but then again could just be a fun character detail added by Jonny and/or Alex .
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The Statement- Getting into the statement we get another Ink5oul appearance. Also possible Ink5oul identifying as she/they. (and lets be honest being a fear avatar is pretty non binary core). I found this Episode gave me a feeling of a hybrid between the Vast, Buried and the Flesh some people are theorizing that is might be a new entity called the Deep but I think that the fear of the ocean could easily apply to the vast or buried. Not much to say about this story though pretty standard Magnus horror that also gave us a hint to what Ink5oul's goal could be/which entity they serve.
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Post Bonzo- Gwen has a debrief with Lena after her first Externals Liason assignment and her meeting with Mr. Bonzo. Undoubtedly Gwen is still pretty shaken from her encounter, even arriving late to work due to sleeplessness. Gwen is able to ask Lena a few questions mainly she wanted to know who's name was written on the letter given to Bonzo
Lena is largely unhelpful but tells Gwen she should have worked it out by now and if not to pay close attention to the case load for the next couple of days. before the latest episode my guess was Klaus because that is the only person mentioned so far that the OIAR intends to kill. but more on that later
Marked- Now were getting to my favorite thing about this episode. This episode title can have two meanings. The first is the more literal interpretation. Tattoos are marking of the body and the case this episode was all about tattoos so easily a good name would be marked. But I believe this is a red herring meant to misguide listeners who have not consumed all 200 episodes of TMA because if you know the world of Magnus Archives the term Marked takes on a entirely different meaning.
In TMA the term marked is used to indicate that somebody has been influenced by one or more or the fears and are one their way to becoming an Avatar. I think this could be a coded way to tell the audience someone in the OIAR has been marked. I have two potential candidates
Alice Dyer- Alice has been having dreams about the Institute after her and Sam's adventure into the ruins. also she mentions feeling like someone's watching her (common to people influenced or fed upon by the Ceaseless Watcher/The Eye) My guess if she is marked it would be by the Eye.
Gwendolyn Bouchard: Probably the most likely culprit. The main way an entitly tends to mark people is through encounters with other avatars. Gwen has just had an encounter with Mr Bonzo last episode who I strongly believe must be an avatar of some sort.
What Happened in Episode 12: Getting Off
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Aww Sam!!- Sam asked Celia out and it was adorably awkward. not much to say I just loved this interaction and I'm longing for a new Magnus brand office romance hopefully is wont be an agonizing slowburn that ends tragically like a certain pair of morons from Archives (I love you Jon and Martin but Jesus christ)
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It's Bonzo time bitches!!- Probably one of the most gruesome Magnus statement I've ever listened to (good work Alex) Mr Bonzo completely annihilated some poor dude at his bachelor party. Based on the date of the Incident the I can confidently say that whoever Baz (the groom) was he was our mystery person the OIAR sent Mr Bonzo to get rid of. Along with some of the bloodiest imagery we learned a few things about Bonzo. The most interesting detail is that Bonzo has to be summoned by playing his theme song I think the CD of his theme song acts somewhat like the tapes did in TMA by materialising out of nowhere. Also fun fact you know that torn seam that is right down Bonzo's middle? that is actually is his mouth lined with rows sharp teeth so I guess I know that now (so fun) Moral of the story dont f*ck with Mr. Bonzo
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Alice knows something: Theres been this recurring audio glitch throughout TMAGP thatnks to a few extremly observent fans we have started to relize that these glitches are not at all random and are actually letting the audience know when a character is lying (i actually reposted somones deepdive into all the istances of this glitch so far if you guys are intrested in knowing more) why i bring this up now is becuase since we know when any charater is lying we also know when they are being truthful if there is no glitch when they say somthing and at the end of this episode this interaction occurs
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Alice goes ahead and makes a joke about this to annoy Gwen but the fact theres no audio glitch when she says "I know" means she does actually know who is behind the OIAR and is activly refusing to share it with Gwen or the others. What do you know Alice!?
and that's about it im already loving these next batch of episodes and am so excited to learn more (ERROR has to show up somtime )
thanks to everyone who resonded the poll on the last update I will continue to include drawings into the breakdown even if it takes me a little bit of time to post. anyways I wrote this all in one sitting and I'm about ready to pass out so thanks again and the ask box and comments are always open for discussion and theory crafting.
-Echo
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statementends · 3 months
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So who do we think is listening?
Last time of course it seemed like the tape recorders were beholding aligned, but turned out to be the Web using the Beholding's need to archive against it.
We're in a new universe now and a new story with new motives behind the recordings. They're just as sinister as the old ones, but now with internet access in a world where everything has internet.
The spying on the employees of the OIAR certainly aligns with Eye Powers, but it might be a redherring. What if the spying is done by humans this time?
Like, oh spooky the technology is listening into them oooo~~~~ but that sort of technology has been around for a long time. The tape recorders were 'analogue.' They turned themselves on and off, but the computers and phones, and things attached to the internet? That happens in real life right now. Someone can hack your computer and gain access to your web cam. We're in sketchy government department of literal horror. Let's tap everyone's phones!
To what end? Probably something that started as 'for the greater good' and has become a monster of its own.
Time for some conspiracy theories!
So. Here's another question. Was the Magnus Archives listened to by someone in the TMAGP universe? Is that why the OIAR was made? Because they heard the tapes and what happened and have used Jon, Martin, and Jonah(?)'s voices to, with a mixture of horror magic and technology, be able to find incidences.
I'm assuming the Voices in the computer are reading out the real statements. Maybe The Archivist's Voice is doing it automatically. It Knows everything all the time but that's useless if you can't see or search for the information. Whoever built the program needed a way to use the Knowing. So it puts in the data and the Archvist sorts it. Archive gotta archive.
My theory is the Archvist's voice is being used as a tool rather than having any agency or mind.
The OIAR needs to find and document horrors. You have three beholding alligned entities trapped in magnetic tape. You put them in a computer program and boom. You have things that can start monitoring the data you're already stealing from citizens and weed out the real horror from the fake ones.
I wonder if this time corporations and governments will be more overtly trying to use and control the dread powers. Like rather than cults and worship it will be people trying to bend the dread powers toward their own end.
Because the biggest question is, if the Voices are sorting real statements, and someone is listening in part for that reason, then what do they do when real ones are found?
Guess we'll see!
Oh and one more thing. It's called the Magnus Protocol
A protocol is the official procedure or system of rules governing affairs of state.
So when something happens, the protocol gets put into place.
So what is the Magnus Protocol? Is it to do with finding the TMA tapes? Or does it have to do with what the Magnus Insitute of this universe was doing with children (see the ARG).
So like Jon was actually the Magnus Archives, is Sam going to be a part of the Magnus Protocol?
Only time will tell.
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stolas-does-fandom · 2 months
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Call these my insane hope to listen to my favourite lesbians once more, but I'm having thoughts
With this last episode (tmagp 7) I think it's now more obvious Celia is our good old friend Celia The Cultist from back the TMA-universe.
Now, if we remember, the universe I'm assuming she comes from is now a post-eyepocslipse version of the earth. The world was saved, the fears were gone, everything was back to almost normal. And you know who knew almost exactly at what cost? Melanie, Georgie and Basira. They knew getting rid of the fears in that universe meant dooming hundreds or thousands of others to their presence - and at the time they accepted it, it was a price they could afford if it meant it could all end. But what if it wasn't as easy to live with that decision?
Anyways, my theory is this: Let's imagine they found a way to travel to other dimensions (Hill Top Road itself perhaps) and then decided to try and help others with their knowledge, their own experience. I mean they already had some followers (ahem) who were willing to believe in them and their cause. So now the cult gets an actual purpose: to travel across the different universes trying to find evidence of the fears and, maybe even, eradicate them at one point. Come on, you can't tell me this isn't exactly what Celia seemed to be doing, maybe the whole reason she even wanted the position at the OIAR
Also, just to add more, as far as Melanie, Georgie and Basira know, Jon and Martin simply disappeared, assuming them death. And now Celia will get to tell them their ex boss they kinda hated and his lover are trapped in another dimension's ancient version of Windows which I think will be a very amusing conversation
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melandrops · 18 days
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got tagged by @cedarbranch (thank you!!)
three ships: doorkeay, jontim and uh sam/alice
first ship: percabeth but the first fan content i consumed for a ship was zelink
last song i listened to: broken machine by nothing but thieves (i've had their discography looping all day)
currently reading: uh trying to make my way through capital in the 21st century by thomas pinketty, but if i'm too tired to read about economics i'm also reading/annotating into the wild by jon krakauer
currently watching: i wouldn't count it as watching but i am partway through wolf 359 and enjoying it thoroughly (i can feel the eiffel/hera brainworms digging in)
relationship status: single 🫶 i've got some amazing friends and that's all i need
current obsessions: tma, tsv and whenever tmagp starts releasing again i have no doubt those brainworms will start digging in again
currently craving: white cheddar cheez-its save me
fave color: purple!
tagging: @thswrtchdthng @thelibrarybat @magpie-22 @wpmz @cult-of-the-eye @confoundedpangolin @ceaseless-sobbing @blasphemous-lies-and-deceit @murderandcoffee and anyone else who wants to join in :)
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My friend is currently listening to TMA for the first time.
So far she thinks everything is one big religious cult and that Michael McHands is some kind of angelic being.
...Well, I mean he USED TO BE but then Gertrude effed him up
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cult-of-the-eye · 3 months
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MAG 91 BABEYYYYY
TEAAAA
Omg why does mike crew sound kinda hot tho
I know he's probably just refusing tea cause he doesn't trust Mike crew but I like to think it's also cause it's not made by Martin lol
He's stressed cause the last time he fucking talked to an avatar he got his hand burned off and he's not expecting Mike to be so...normal
Bro didn't think he'd get this far he didn't prepare his questions dumbass
Oh my god the AIR fuck
And I was trying to be polite OH HE'S SO COOL ACTUALLY
Why do I kind of love seeing Jon being battered around like this
Hmm I would've thought the vast was the idea of not knowing, not knowing exactly how deep something will go, not knowing your place in the world
You need to learn some respect???? Oh my god
"Fed that which feeds me" that's such a good way of putting it
"I'm not usually the sort for speeches" god he seems so human oh my god the guy just wants be left alone while throwing people off skyscrapers
BRO STILL DOESNT LISTEN. LEAVE.
I didn't get the mike crew stans before but now I absolutely do I would let that man throw me off a skyscraper
DAISYYYYYY AHHHHHHHHHHHH
My favourite corrupt detective 😘
The way she goes from "he" to "it"
Oh my god did she shoot him???
THE CIGARETTES...THE LIGHTERRRRR
The way he's more stressed about the fact that the tape recorder appeared than literally daisy tonner
THE CHOKING NOISES
BASIRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
God they're such lesbians
The way daisy is trying to convince basira that she only kills monsters, she's still sort of justified, maybe even good
Oh my god daisy hates being manipulated, she's always in control and someone has reached into her mind to make her do something and she hates it
She's also so smart she'd put it together way before everyone else did and she decided to do something about it, maybe in like a really bad way but at least shes trying
Call me number one daisy tonner apologist with these comments lol
"for god's sake look at him!" That's so funny girl was really like you think Jonathan Sims resident whimpering wet cat of man could murder two people???????
Oh my god they're literally using him as a fucking lie detector
AND JON GOES ALONG
I guess it's cause he also really wants to prove his innocence and find out if it really was Elias
Bro has no survival instincts he just does not give a shit
GRAB A SPADE she's so nonchalant about it
NOOOO MIKE
NO I GET TO KNOW HIM AND NOW HE'S DEAD
NOOOOOOOO
God fucking cliffhanger man
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martington0x0 · 2 months
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ok WAIT TMAGP THEORY TIME
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Ok so I know that the universe that tmagp takes place in is generally considered to not be the same universe that tma takes place in, but have we considered that there’s a possibility that all the characters from the tma universe that were unaffected/saved from the eyepocalypse are the same?
what if after martin stabs jon and all the fears are sucked through hilltop road all the surviving characters are brought there witj them? this would follow the current pattern:
-Jon, Martin and Jonah are (presumably due to beholding shenadigans) stuck inside the computer
- Celia who is 100% from the tma universe is working with
- Georgie (who, for lack of information, I am unsure if she IS the same Georgie but i am assuming so) to find out THINGS ABOUT TIME TRAVEL AND DIMENSION HOPPING??
Gertrude and Gerry arent the same because they weren't around for the eyepocalypse, so it makes you wonder about the alternate universe versions of the previously mentioned characters…
anyway, if this theory is true, then it means that we may see:
-Jon, Martin and Jonah (i mean obviously)
-The WhatTheGirlfriends cult members (Georgie, Melanie, Celia, Arun, Danielle, Song, Christopher and the other unnamed members)
-Basira maybe?????
- (and the person who I’m CONVINCED will show up and some point:) Annabelle Cain.
Also extra mini theory: Another thing to note is that at the VERY end of mag 200 when we hear Basira, Melanie and Georgie hunt down the last tape recorders, this could have been after they were all dumped into the new world cause if the web had disappeared out of tma then the tape recorders should have stopped BUT THEY DIDNT, so maybe it was because they were still manifesting as an aspect of the web before the web changes in the new world?? Idk if that’s anything but that’s just a thought I have had
ALSO to add to the Annabelle Cain thing there has to be a reason why Jon lets her live at the end of tma. Something something Checkoffs gun (similarly this COULD mean the return of Simon Fairchild but I doubt it cause he has no relation to the eye or to hilltop road.)
Yeah I know that it was said that you don’t have to have knowledge of tma to enjoy tmagp and that it was said that tma listeners shouldn’t be biased about tmagp but Cmon…
I hope that u enjoyed my yap fest I don’t know if any of this is actually anything of if I’m just slowly going insane but I would love to hear your thoughts!!!
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its-your-mind · 2 months
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A compilation of things we know:
the OIAR used to work with a security company called Rightforce International, previously called Diligence Security Systems
the Magnus Institute burned down 24 Dec 1999
the OIAR separated from a company called Starkwall Protection Services on 3 Jan 2000
Starkwall had something to do with a “magnus protocol,” and information related to this is above the level of access of the OIAR team members
Gerry Kaey was a Magnus kid
there is no evidence that there were files in the basement of The Magnus Institute when it burned
The basement of The Magnus Institute was the Archives in the TMA World Line
Also in the TMA World Line, Gertrude Robinson was the Archivist for ~40 years, starting in the 80s
She frequently worked with Adelard Decker to thwart the machinations of the Entities and their avatars
Later, she worked with Gerard Kaey, who had intentionally aligned himself with the Eye in order to see when people were being stalked by one of the Powers and help them
He was also a firebug
Also known firebug: Agnes Montague, who had been bonded to Gertrude via a ritual by followers of the Web - a bond Gertrude used to protect herself from the Cult of the Lightless Flame
An unnamed security company saved Dianne Margolis from a shop on Hilltop Road in Oxford that was filled with supernatural shit and subsequently set on fire
FR3-D1 should NOT work like this considering the technology it runs on
FR3-D1 appears to have complete access to any files transmitted via the Internet, no matter how secure or buried they are, for the sole purpose of categorization
there (is? used to be?) some sort of Response Department, that is still enough a part of the OIAR’s operations that Sam gets paperwork on his desk about it after checking a box marked “Response 121” on his onboarding paperwork
Klaus learned things that he believed put him in danger and subsequently disappeared via Lena’s intervention
Colin believes there is Something watching and/or listening via any technology with cameras or microphones
Lena answers to some sort of authority that none of the other workers know about
The Entities exist in this world, just in a different form than we’re used to (in-depth meta on this here)
okay those are all the relevant facts time for:
CRACK THEORY TIME
Gertrude and Decker are co-founders of Starkwall né Rightforce né Diligence
They kept changing the name to keep off the radar of any avatars
Gerry was Youngest Recruit In History
He was recruited while he was a Magnus kid to be their INSIDE OPERATIVE
He got to help set the fire
He swept the archives and stole all the relevant files because he is still an Eye-aligned bitch who wants to figure shit out
Agnes is also in on it
Bc she fuckin DESERVES IT
also look at all the fire shit
She and Gertrude are lovers
Bc I fuckin deserve it
that eldrich bond should be good for something and that something is LESBIANISM
(*speaking in a voice crushed with disappointment but with a Touch of hopefulness* here’s how agnes montague can still win?)
Anyway back to Starkwall
Their whole thing is basically scorched earth policy when it comes to Fears shit (see: MAGP 07 statement of fire at Hilltop Road)
Feeding the Desolation by ^ and the Eye by collecting info on the activities of other fears (whatever slightly warped version of the Fears exist in this world)
Used to work with? under? the OIAR as part of the “Response Department”
FR3-D1 is like EXPLICITLY Eye-based system set up to collect info for Starkwall to go after (Eye is a silly stupid entity who just wants to gobble up the fear and is bad at planning, so doesn’t notice/care how its people use the info gathered)
a significant part of Jon Martin and (probable) Jonah got schlorped up by FR3-D1 when they got here bc their voices reading out Statements for the Eye were the conduits for the Fears to travel, and FR3-D1 had INTENSE EYE GRAVITY that was Specifically Tuned to gulp up supernatural stories from the interwebs
unfortunately the Intense Eye Beams coming off him DOES tend to place FR3-D1’s IT workers directly into a position to get Eyed into intense paranoia and fear of being watched (rip Klaus, stay strong Colin)
this did not happen when Starkwell used to work with them bc they knew how to handle FR3-D1 but alas once the Eye folks all fucked off it left Klaus (and now Colin) open to both paranoia attacks and possible Consequences for asking too many questions
Speaking of which
the Web (or an analog (jonny and alex drop titles for entities in this world if smirke didn’t make up the same ones challenge)) took notice of what was goin on and got operatives into the OIAR
Lena is one, or else she works for one. (Insert here’s how annabelle caine can still win theories here)
Klaus figured out too much and got in the way of Machinations and thus the whole *gestures*
Gertrude and Decker noticed and separated from the OIAR as soon as they were able to bc they realized that shit had gone South but are still out there doin the good work
Alice ALSO done got recruited from out of the Magnus program as a child
The reason she keeps pushing people away from the sus stuff and seems to know more than she claims to is bc she is their PLANT still working for the OIAR
She got Sam hired bc he’s still got eldritch eyes (in general, but maybe also Eyes) on him and she wants him somewhere she can keep an eye on him AND keep him inside a spooky space so it’s less likely an unknown actor would come after him
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ash-pile · 11 days
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Starting a thread for myself of theories and ideas about tmp. Gonna update it as I listen to episodes.
I’ve listened to 11 as if this first post. Also I think it goes without saying but there will be spoilers here, I might not have a ton of info but I do have and reference stuff in the episodes
Jon/chester/computer bois:
I think that Jon is using the cameras and things to see and listen, which is why he’s able to give statements that are very close to what’s happening with the characters.
Also I think he is trapped, but idk if he’ll ever get out. Maybe if he and Martin get out then Jonah Magnus can too so they’ll have to choose.
I wonder if they’ll be the same if they escape?
Or if there is a jon and Martin in the world too?
The entities:
-I saw someone else say this (don’t remember who or where tho) but I think that when the web and Jon pulled the entities thru the crack in reality in tma, they got squished and melted together.
- It would explain why statements often multiple fears now.
- They are so squished/interwoven that they litterally can’t separate.
Can they still do rituals/summonings?
Alice
-Another thing I saw but makes so much sense. Alice used to hold Lena’s job/she’s secretly the boss-boss of OIAR
-would explain why she and Lena got the message that Sam was trying to access restricted files.
-I mean why would Alice of all people see that. Lena make sense but Alice would only see it if she had the same kind of access
-also It might not end up being canon but I want Alice, Sam and Gwen to end up together as a poly. The whole scene with the mocha and Alice being confused but not hostile to Gwen was sweet and I want more of that trio
Celia
-I think she and the others who weren’t in any fear domains were brought here, so Georgie and Melanie could be there too.
-Would also explain why she seems to know more about the archives that most, cause she would have heard about them from those two.
-Maybe she ends up in random places regularly hence the ‘not again’ because the world recognizes she isn’t supposed to be there
-or she’s like Micheal. Tma 198 did reveal that the cult was taken back to their domains, maybe Micheal/something like him got to her before the end?
So she’d be able to jump around with doors. Probably not on purpose tho.
-either theory explains why she’s looking into dimensions and space and physics things
Lena/OIAR
-I think that when Jon and Martin and Jonah and the fears came through, they came through at a different time but same space. The explosion from the gas destroying the building would have been brought over at the same time and thus destroyed the archives in this world
-and maybe if it was an important place for the eye/the eye is ‘staying’ there/leftover energy from the panopticon, maybe thats why redcanary was so affected and pulled out their eyes. They were forced to by some kind of eye powers
-so with that, I think OIAR formed to document what changes came about after the fears came through. And their database doesn’t work with the fears separately cause they aren’t separate any more
-I haven’t figured out what Lena’s deal is yet, I just think she’s aware of the fears in someway and uses them/avatars/whatever the monsters would be called now to control the amount of fear being spread
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portuguesedisaster · 1 year
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Darkness fear possesses people. Got it.
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