#d.gray-man theory

[seijitheclown]

Who is the Bookman waiting at the Campbell Residence?

I'm back with another theory that bugged me for the last two days I need to put it down. This theory here will contain spoilers regarding Chapter 249/251!

So my theory starts with the following information from the panel above (both from Chapter 222). Lucia says "Bookman has woken up" and:

This scene takes part as Allen was found by Kanda/Johnny, as Allen is on the run for 3 months.

The implication here that it's "just" Bookman. Well, ... which Bookman? As Hoshino confirmed in her last Broadcast Bookman and Lavi are hold hostage for about 4-5 months which will be learn later on, that means around this time of the Story Bookman is still hold hostage by the Noah, same for Lavi.

And for now we know that Lavi will return but not "the same as before". So he is not dead (now), the referenced Junior is Past!Bookman Junior (PBJ for short). There is only one Junior per Generation, so if one is gone another has to be born or the Clan is in danger.

So... who is it?

It's talked about that "Junior" isn't there anymore to carry on the collected memories but also told this will solve once Allen arrives, the scene takes part right after Cross(!) tells Allen to go to the Residence. Mother holds the other key with the Information regarding Zeugle after Allen tells her Cross appeared and told him about Katherina (and we have a huge hint that Cross is still alive by Mother).

So we have an injured Bookman in the twin's old home who was not conscious for quite some time. Bookman Sr. is not injured around that time as Desires just pressures him, Lavi is, but I doubt Lucia would address Lavi as "Bookman-sama" as he is only the apprentice so far, also Lavi is conscious despite being in pain.

You know who is also injured by that time and we all pretty much expect that he is not dead....? Cross. Who was/is suspected to be a Bookman/Bookman Jr even by a lot of people...? Cross. Who has a striking resemblence to Lavi? Also Cross (yes I know some suspect they are related).

Then we have another indicator: Urcampy. It could be that Cross either left Urcampy there (I love the theory both of the Twins have a Golem, but eh) and then we have the information that Cross uses a spell to appear way younger than he is. Another drop of information we got from the recent Broadcast (28.4.24) from Hoshino is that the girl in the panel above is indeed the Lucia we meet in Ch. 251 again and that it has something to do with the Residence. Could it be the same magic Cross uses? But in the opposite direction? To make her appear younger or older depending on how it's needed?

Cross walks upon the lines all the time, he can do as he pleases, he is above the law. He interacts with the Noah casually, Road treats him like an old friend (Vol 27) despite him having not only one but two Innocence (which is, another really interesting information), he has obtained knowledge nobody else has. He can modify Akuma, he uses a Corpse and her Innocence. Why is he not killed despite the fact he knows the true identity of the Earl? He is above the Black Order and Central makes a deal with him, yes he's a good Exorcist, strong and all that. But he doesn't get the "you are a traitor" treatment Allen got, ... what has he going on there?

We don't really know why he cares for Mana, how they met and whatever deal/relationship we have going on (no I don't really go for the Cross = Cyrus theory here). We know by now Cross most likely knew PBJ, but not Past!Allen. As he has no indication on what he looks like aside the age, not even a hair color, personality or anything else aside the information that an Allen is the host and that Mana got told that "Allen" is the key.

This fuels my theory that Master and Apprentice parted, one followed Mana and the other Nea to record their part of history as the both weren't able to engage anymore without trying to kill each other/the Noah side needed to regain anyways after Nea killed them all but the Earl/Road.

So I am back with this panel. This is a Bookman. But which? I had an tad of an idea that this could be 'our' Bookman in younger years but by now I think I was wrong.

Could this be Cross as his role as Bookman? One side of the face is hidden, just like Cross'. Also while we are at hidden face, I am by now sure that Cross mask is a reference to either the same mark PBJ has, or he has the same mark because he is the Master to even that PBJ. In one of the recent Volumes Allen is asked if Cross has a limited vision because of the mask and Allen denies (it's in Komui's Lounge in either Vol 27 or 28... i can't recall it rn I read too many things the last days) and says Cross has a very good vision and can see well despite the mask.

Another point is that Cross is not named Marian Cross, it's a fake identity. We basically know nothing about him. Other than he has forbidden knowledge, even about the hidden side of the war, something only a Bookman should have.

Does Bookman sr. knows? Well, I am not sure about that. In Ch. 251 it's mentioned that not all of Zeugle know each other, they could be fighting each other in the same war until they reveal they are from the Clan, so.. it's pretty much possible that the Order has basically 3 Bookmen among them.

Desires might address Bookman sr. that he was friends with the former generation of Noah but ... he can't access his Noah memories, therefore Bookman could play pretend and maybe truly doesn't know shit about Nea or he covered his fellow Bookman aka Cross.

.. so yeah. I needed to get this out of my head. I have literally no idea if any of this makes sense or if anybody would agree with me, but I am certain we have a different Bookman here and that the Bookman Clan/Zeugle play a way bigger role than we thought.

#dgm #d.gray-man #bookman #the bookman theory #bookman jr #you have no idea how much this bugged me #does this make sense even??? #seiji has too much in his brain here #clown go back into the circus

[ploepy]

LAVI, EXPLAIN!!!!!!!!!!! You can't just drop this line and move on 😭

#d.gray-man #ploep talk #dgm spoiler #dgm #dgm vol 28 #lenalee being the heart suddenly sounds a lot more plausible #dgm theory

[commanderdazzle]

oh, now I remember why I stopped reading d.gray-man at volume 14.

EDIT; Actually, I'm going to elaborate on this, feel free to revoke your likes if you disagree.

D.gray-man fan "theories", especially the ones popular on the subreddit, drive me up the wall, some of them are in direct contradiction to the themes of the series, or came about because people only read fan translations/don't even read the official properly (here I acknowledge that Viz isn't helping by translating the names shittily, and yes I mean travesties like "Waiizurii".)

The most egregious one being the "Allen is a grown adult who got de-aged" thing, because literally the only persons word we have to go on is Nea's, and the fact that like 90% of the fandom choose to believe him is absolutely insane. Is it because he's popular for some odd reason? That's weird to me because, as a Sheril stan, I wouldn't believe a goddamn word Sheril says. Why do Nea's fans believe him?

Next, while at first I was skeptical of the idea, I now really really really hope Grave Of Maria actually IS Katerina Eve Campbell, because I hate "Road is Katerina" even more as a plot point.

And speaking of Road, I will be livid if "Road isn't a physical entity as we see her, but a dream being projected by someone sleeping somewhere" actually comes true. Road has done WAY TOO MUCH in the plot to not be a 100% real physical entity of her own, from the eye stabbing to the kissing to the action rescue, and her interactions with the other Noah, I will literally be so fucking angry about this one.

Anyway, sorry for tacking this onto an existing post, I didn't want to clutter the tags. Please react as you see fit!

#i love Hoshino dearly #But my favorite characters just straight up disappear #miranda lotto #arystar krory #sheril kamelot #and the fandom literally doesn't give a shit about them #every time I see someone say there's only a “main 4” #or main 5 with link #I go completely berserk #there's 6 main characters and i don't care who disagrees #and I'm still livid that people think Allen is a grown man who aged backwards #d.gray-man #d.gray man hallow #dgm #dgm theories #fan theories

[scarareg]

Crazy to think that the biggest inspirations for the new shonen generation are Naruto,Bleach and D.Gray-man

#Naruto #Bleach #D.Gray-man #not complaining those are my babies but one would expect more mangakas looking up to OP but nope #I have the theory that people got sooo frustrated with the wasted potential of Bleach that they wanted to creat something similar but great #and D.Gray-man is just peak shonen right there peak writing peak art peak everything is great💖

[metalandmagi]

In honor of Women's History month, I just want to remind people that some of the most influential and popular manga in the anime community are written/illustrated by women. And I'm not just talking about groundbreaking shojo like Sailor Moon, Fruits Basket, Card Captor Sakura, or Black Butler (or things like Chihayafuru, Migi to Dali, Sakamoto Desu ga?, Nana, Natsume Yuujincho, Revolutionary Girl Utena, Violet Evergarden, A Silent Voice, and a million more). To be clear, those series are also amazing, and I'm not demeaning them in any way. They deserve just as much respect as everything else.

But right now I'm talking about shōnen series or series that are usually marketed towards men specifically or have appeared in shōnen magazines. I mean things like:

Beastars, made by Paru Itagaki

Gangsta, by Kohske

Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic by Shinobu Ohtaka (which I promise isn't what my screen name is a reference to, even though I love this show).

D.Gray Man by Katsura Hoshino

Dorohedoro by Q Hayashida

To Your Eternity by Yoshitoki Ōima

Mushishi, made by Yuki Urushibara (aka Soyogo Shima).

Noragami which is written by two women, collectively named Adachitoka, similarly to romance author duo Christina Lauren.

Blue Exorcist by Kazue Kato

Inuyasha (and Ranma 1/2 and Urasai Yatsura) by Rumiko Takahashi, which I know for a fact served as a gateway anime for a shit ton of people across generations (but especially for people my age).

I have to shout out Posuka Demizu, who illustrated The Promised Neverland, which is my favorite manga series. She may have given the characters weird looking facial proportions, but damn if she ain't one of the most detail oriented (and sneakiest) artists out there.

And finally, a little story you may know called Fullmetal Alchemist, written by Hiromu Arakawa (who also wrote Silver Spoon, The Heroic Legend of Arslan and lots of other stuff but I wanted to highlight those two specifically).

There's also been speculation that a small hidden gem called...what was it again?...Oh yeah, DEMON SLAYER is written by a woman. But Koyoharu Gotouge's gender hasn't been confirmed so it's still just a theory.

idk, I just love women.

#women's history month #anime #fullmetal alchemist brotherhood #fma #fmab #beastars #inuyasha #to your eternity #fumetsu no anata e #blue exorcist #noragami #mushishi #d.gray man #magi labyrinth of magic #dorohedoro #gangsta anime #the promised neverland #yakusoku no neverland

[jeidafei]

Hi, DGM fandom! I'm jeidafei. You may have seen me in Kougeki-scans' scanlation of D.Gray-Man.

I know Kougeki releases have been delayed for these past few chapters. And people have taken to releasing their own translations on Reddit and MangaDex as early as a few days after the Japanese release. We at Kougeki have asked people to wait if they could. People have told us to, basically, go d*e.

And of course, you are perfectly entitled to say so. You are perfectly entitled to release your own translations and not wait. After all, we at Kougeki are just fans of D.Gray-Man, similar to you. We have zero claim over the series.

I normally stay out of the fray when it comes to quarrels with these 'snipers' until now. When I saw the quality of the translations some of these people are putting out.

(Specifically, Chapter 250 on MangaDex)

Japanese is a difficult language. D.Gray-Man is a difficult manga to translate due to its ongoing status, complex nature and plot twists. I have made mistakes myself that others have pointed out. I have my own interpretations that might be different. I readily forgive mistakes I understand are due to the complex Japanese grammar, and the confusing mysteries of the D.Gray characters.

But these are not it. These are just blatant laziness and lack of basic knowledge of even the most recent developments in D.Gray-Man. Or even simple logic. These are the results of people dishing out sub-par work quickly just to get the most exposure possible.

So while we wait for Kougeki's version, I am going to point out these egregious mistakes. We need transparency so that going forward, you can make your own decisions on whether it is speed or accuracy you are looking for.

The original Japanese text says "7,000 years ago" (七千), not "17 years"（十七）. A difference any beginner Japanese learner would notice. Even most D.Gray-Man fans without Japanese knowledge would probably realize something is off based on what we know of the story so far.

The original text says "Do(es) the passion/sentiments run so deep, you must reincarnate into a human who resembles Nea?" (the word 'regret' is simply not there). I think 'passion' or 'sentiments' are more compatible here, considering earlier theories about Tyki, the Noah of Pleasure.

Jasdevi is saying they were at their limits anyway and wouldn't be able to keep restraining Apocryphos for long. When Wisely orders them to dispose of Apo, they scream "Oni!" (Demon) which is quite similar to "Onii-san" (Elder brother), but most people would probably know which one is more fitting in this scenario, even without Japanese knowledge.

When Desires asks Wisely if he is just going to set Apo free like that, Wisely explains that this way, Apocryphos (not Desires or Wisely as in the translation), can keep searching for the Heart for them. Again, basic story knowledge.

Wisely didn't say "Fine, enough already"; this bubble is a continuation of the earlier bubble, spoken by Desires. Together, he is saying "Wouldn't you just spit it out already!?"

In Japanese, many words sound the same and the meaning can only be determined by context or the Chinese characters (kanji) used. In this case, "kikai" can mean either "machine" (機械) or "opportunity" (機会) or "strange" (奇怪), among a dozen others.

Yes, it's difficult, I know. But, you see the kanji. You know the context. I'm sure you can take a guess.

There are a couple more minor mistakes (ones that don't impact your understanding of the story too much). But I'm just going to leave you with one more, the most conspicuous mistake:

The chapter is named "Curse's End" by this translator. Actually, it's the opposite in Japanese. "Owaranu" is a form of "Owaranai" which means "not ending", which fits the revelation of this chapter by Wisely that their 35-year curse has yet to come to an end.

So, there you have it.

As you can see, I'm not shaming people for not being as fluent in Japanese. Not everyone can dedicate almost two decades to learn a language. As I have pointed out, most of these mistakes are rookie-level, and should have been picked up in double-check if that someone is familiar with D. Gray-Man at all. With these nigh unforgivable mistakes, even Deepl and Google Translate are more accurate.

This is a matter of someone not giving enough of a sh*t, plain and simple.

I'm also not gatekeeping scanlation whatsoever. I'm just pointing out the mistakes and actual text because the fandom deserves to know. With the localization drama going on, it proves faithfulness to the actual text and accuracy matters.

Of course, anyone has the right to put out their translation. And I have the right to point out whether they can be trusted. I'm not passing judgment. I'm just providing evidence so the bystanders can decide for themselves.

Lastly, from the bottom of my heart, I thank everyone who has supported the work of Kougeki Scans and waited for our release. I apologize for the delays. We're working on the latest chapter and will release 249 and 250 very, very soon.

#d gray man #dgm #d gray #dgm 250

[arimiaromage]

I made a rough d.gray-man timeline for the Earl/Allen/Mana shenanigans and some people found it useful so I'll throw it here too. should be, like, 90% accurate at least until more chapters come out lol.

spoilers up to ch 247

- Adam/original Earl meets Catarina in Edinstown, disappears sometime later, and Mana & Nea are "born"

- Catarina raises Mana & Nea

- Nea meets past!Allen, Mana & Nea meet Cross Marian and the Noah clan, Nea awakens as a Noah (but doesn't have Noah memories)

- Nea gains Adam's memories*, makes past!Allen his pianist/partner in crime who controls the ark

- Nea kills the Noah, Catarina is heavily injured possibly by Mana/the Earl

- Mana becomes the Earl, kills Nea in front of Road & Cross, regains control as Nea tells him to find "Allen", at some point during this past!Allen asks Nea to let him hide Nea's memories

- Mana goes... somewhere... and is himself for a brief time but the Earl takes over again

- several years pass (around 28ish years) as Mana is the Earl and Cross searches for "Allen"

- Allen is sold to the circus as an infant

- Mana wakes up one day as himself—amnesiac of the past 28ish years up to when he was with Nea—and in Edinstown he joins the circus to find Nea

- Mana & Allen find each other but Apochryphos messes things up, Earl tries to take over Mana again, Cross tries to kill Allen, Mana & Allen flee the circus after Allen's innocence breaks Mana's memories

- 3 years later Mana ""dies"", Allen supposedly calls the Earl, and Cross finds Allen, somehow in this time Mana returns to being the Earl

- 3 more years later Allen is sent to the Black Order, i.e. the beginning of the manga

*we don't know when Nea gained Adam's memories but he had them after death so I think it's mostly safe to say he had them while he was alive, as it was probably a cause to him killing the Noah

**in the circus flashbacks in chapter 233 Cross says that "Allen became Nea's host 35 years ago" but at this point in time it was around 28ish years ago, as it's 35 in present day. I think this is a typo but feel free to make theories around it lol

#dgm #dgrayman #dgm spoilers #allen walker #mana walker #cross marian #this should be mostly accurate until she throws some more curveballs our way lol #cause we have no damn clue about basically anything timeline wise for pasta #someone was like “I'm so confused on the timeline” and I was like “oh let me make a quick bullet point list” #and then several people were like “wtf this makes so much more sense how did you remember this” #and I'm just like “well you see I've fixated on the Walkers”

[sacredfire44]

Considering writing a Daemon AU for D.gray-man, but is the fandom even alive enough to read it????

I like the idea of the complications of necromancy and akuma and Noah when your literal soul is something outside your body, something physical and visible.

What magic is used to get around it? What ways do Akuma affect Daemon? Does the magic keep the daemon whole, controlled by the new invading soul in it’s body? Do daemons shift with the new owner, the new soul, or does the Akuma magic keep them trapped in this form, tortured as much as the other half of their soul, chained to a form not meant for itself? Do akuma’s souls feel it, when you touch their daemon? I can’t imagine they react outwardly, but perhaps through Allen’s eye, he can see them flinch, see them scream and cry and beg for mercy for their daemon, if not for themselves. Can Allen see the daemon’s soul as well, it’s true form, chained and restrained and tortured within itself?

What do Daemon mean for Noah? I like the idea that they unsettle when Noah are reborn, that the rebirth changes them so fundamentally that their daemons must change as well, must rediscover what and who they are. But do they always resettle into the same form as their previous lives? I doubt it. There seems some separation, at least for Tiki, from the original Noah memory. But for Wisely, it seemed to be a one-to-one reincarnation. Perhaps it depends on the individual, on how much they remember and connect with their previous selves, on how much they identify with them.

And what of the Second Exorcists? Are they reborn with their daemon? Do they even HAVE daemon anymore, or did they fail to follow them into this life? If they did, are they the same as they had been the last time? Do the souls remember, even when the brains do not? Do the daemon remember their past lives? Do they see these children as themselves, or are they so different that even the other half of their souls can no longer recognize them? Or are the daemons just as clueless, just as new?

And Neah… is he still considered alive? Does his daemon remain, alive and alone? Does his soul still long for his brother, for his best friend? Do they need to stay nearby, need to cling to the other half of their soul?

Oh god. Oh god Timcampy is Neah’s daemon. Hidden in plain sight, disguised as a golem.

Wait. Neah and Mana were the same person once. Could Timcampy be BOTH of their daemons??? Ohhhh boy, and combined with the theory that Mana sealed his soul inside Allen with the curse, and how much Mana cared about his little Pierrot, and how much Neah and Allen had to care about each other for his reset to make sense, of course a piece of their soul would love him too, of course a piece of their soul would mourn him even if Neah would not allow himself to, and of course their daemon would WANT TO STAY CLOSE-

I may be posting some polls soon about what Daemons characters should have, or I may go take that one weirdly-specific Daemon quiz from the perspective of the characters.

#dgm #d gray man #d.gray-man #Allen Walker #Neah d campbell #spoilers #I think? not taking the chance #Daemon AU #His Dark Materials AU #Neah walker #mana walker #mana d campbell #kanda yuu #fanfic ideas

[frankencanon]

***trembling with the urge to share stupid absolutely ridiculous outlandish theories*** What if the title "D.Gray-man" is a reference to The Picture of Dorian Gray????!!

#d.gray hmm?????????!!!?!?! #d.gray-man #dgm #seriously though WHAT does the D stand for because (spoiler alert) now we're seen certain important characters have it as a middle initial #and i used to think the “gray-man” bit referred to the noahs but now they're being colored differently so they're not gray anymore?!?!!??!?! #i'm so fuckin confused. #hoshino EXPLAIN DAMMIT #and WHERE is LAVI #hoguwtujbfrgdgjsyfyunjofsuggghij

[neversetyoufree]

Ok I cackled at your dgm vnc meme — priceless 😂😂 It’s been years since I’ve read dgm I can only remember it was on hiatus forever, you do know if it’s still actually continuing? Also thank you for this blog, you have such great insight and I love reading your theory posts 👌

(The meme)

First of all, thank you!! I'm so glad you like my vnc posts :).

As for Dgm, yes, it's continuing! The giant hiatus that everyone remembers actually ended way back in 2015. It's been in more or less continuous serialization since then. It's just being serialized really slowly.

Due (I think) to Hoshino's continuing health issues impacting the speed she can work at, D.Gray-man is currently being published in a quarterly magazine. This means there are 4 new chapters per year (in January, April, July, and October). We've gotten 28 new chapters in the past 8ish years.

However, despite this snail's pace, post-hiatus D.Gray-man is still, like, really good. The most recent chapter as of writing this, 247, is genuinely one of my all time favs. And the art is utterly gorgeous!

The very newest chapters can be harder to find, but if you're interested, I know that everything up to the most recent chapter is on this manga site. (Though I've never opened that site on a device without adblock, so I'm not sure how safe it is in that regard). The sad clown fandom will be happy to welcome you back :).

#capping off this post with an image from the aforementioned chapter 247 #one of the dgm scenes of all time honestly #anyway. the fact that I'm a long-time dgm fan really tempered me when it came time for vnc's hiatus lmao #when you first discover your favorite manga right after it goes on a 2.5 year break #and then its return is QUARTERLY #a 1 year break in your new favorite later doesn't seem so bad #ask #anon #dgm #dgm 247 #dgm spoilers #I mean I don't think this panel is really that much of a spoiler? #you get to see that Link and Tiedoll meet back up with the fugitive gang I guess #but there's no context #ID in alt text

[kitty-bandit]

Chemicals Between Us

Fandom: D.Gray-man Rating: E Pairing: Lucky (Tyki x Lavi); Pieshipping (Link x Allen) Total Words: 65.2K Tags: Modern AU; Omegaverse AU; Sexting AU; Unrequited Laven

Chapter 10: Sweet Little Lies

Lavi walked out of the apartment entrance. For a moment, Allen thought his friend had seen his forgotten phone and was hurrying down to try and catch him. But that theory was abandoned as he watched Lavi get into a car idling on the street. Before he knew it, the car was gone and so was Lavi. Allen’s eyebrows knit together in confusion as he stood on the corner, watching the car disappear down the crowded street. Lavi had said he was staying home all day—not to mention he was in the middle of a shift at work, wasn’t he? Did he take a half day? Where the hell was he going? And why did he lie to Allen about it? A sudden queasy feeling filled Allen’s stomach. He didn’t know what was going on, but he knew he didn’t like it.

Read on AO3.

#dgm #dgrayman #d gray man #lavi #lavi bookman #tyki mikk #lucky ship #tyki x lavi #allen walker #howard link #linkllen #pieshipping #allen x link #Chemicals Between Us #kitty bandit writes fanfiction

[charitybell]

I’ve been Rereading D.Gray-man and because it’s been a long while I’m remembering the old stuff way way better than any of the later chapters. Which means my mind is spinning with theories I feel are way too out there and that I’ll need to wait til I get everything reread to see if it’s worth putting out in the world.

Also Jasdevi slays so hard. Fashion Icon.

#d gray man

[neapologist873]

Hi hi. This will be less of a theory and more of important observations and comparisons between the characters of D.Gray-man and the stories it's directly inspired by and taking inspiration and ideas from--those being "The Portrait of Dorian Gray"and the Bible (specifically the New Testament).

Here is a brief rundown of Dorian Gray's plot before I get into the details:

"Basil Hallward is a renowned painter who happened to meet the young lord Dorian Gray at an event. Normally, Basil is a very particular and aloof person, finding others boring or not worth his time. But something about Dorian...the very first time he lays eyes on him he is captivated. Yet he says that, more than being interested, he could feel a budding sense of fear. He describes the young man as being exquisitely beautiful, like someone you'd only find in myths and folklore. He I afraid of painting Dorian, since paintings can hold and reveal the painter's feelings and the book describes him as worshipping Dorian. He admits to all of this to his friend Lord Henry Wotton--a cynical person who takes delight in watching people fall into depravity as a believer in a "New Age of Hedonism". Lord Henry laughs off Basil's concerns and instead insists on meeting Dorian, much to Basil's dismay. He knows that the beauty and innocence he finds inspiring will be gone if the two were to meet, yet he arranges it all the same. From there forth, a painting of Dorian is made, one that Dorian grows jealous of after Henry saying nobody will love Dorian after all his youth and innocence is gone. The painting then takes on unusual properties, growing ugly to reflect Dorian's soul as he begins to blackmail and kill while still remaining young and beautiful on the outside. The painting becomes the true nature of his soul."

Right away, it is clear that all of the Noah share similarities to Dorian. Noahs have a peculiar relationship with reflections--when Nea was still slumbering, he could only appear in reflections. The piano room in the Ark is made solely of glass and Allen first saw him in the window panes and mirror in the bathroom at the Order. Then there is this scene above. The broken glass shards show Joyd, who starts to appear a lot more after this. While Tykki is no saint, he is described as being the most human-like of the Noahs and he has a special separation between himself, the host, and his Noah soul (this was even noted by Wisely). After Allen's failed exorcism attempt, Tykki's throat was branded with stigmata scars that resemble Kanda's and Lenalee's as crystal type users. This detail will become extremely important on this blog.

And there is also the scene with Adam and Mana, right after Nea's betrayal and death. This scene plays with the reflections a lot and seems to suggest that Mana was the true nature or soul of the body, until he isn't anymore.

So clearly Nea and Mana take after Dorian the most, since they have a more clear descent into "evil". It is Mana who is like the "portrait of a sorrow", though, along with Nea and even Tykki who bare the same face. And it is Adam--the Noah inside of them who takes on the role of the Earl--who is the ugly. Just as Dorian became ugly like the portrait in the end, Adam represents this with his entire being and even with his new face after destroying Mana's that looks just like Nea's.

Moving on, I think Lord Henry can also be used to represent the Noahs themselves, not their hosts. To be more precise though, I think Joyd is clearly based on him, which makes sense as he's the Noah of Hedonism. Lord Henry is like the devil on the shoulder and is the catalyst for everything, and Joyd definitely seems to have direct ties to Nea and whatever happened on that day 30 years ago. Lord Henry acted like he was Dorian's friend even though he merely just wanted to see what would happen if he were to be corrupted. This is similar to how Cross remarked that the Noah tricked Mana by acting like family, even though they really just wanted the Earl back. He seemed to start listening to them more than Nea, though, making Nea a bit similar to Basil who was also killed by Dorian. For both Dorian and Mana, it was hard to know who was truly on their side, so it was just easier to turn on those that actually had their best wishes at heart (this is indicated around chapter 187 I think? In which the Earl starts to recall memories of Nea and Wisely remarks how Tykki looks just like him). 

Speaking of the Campbells, Allen's name comes from the character Alan Campbell in Dorian Gray, who was a scientist in the novel. It seems like the Allen of the past in DGM is someone of this profession as well, and Ven and I are convinced that he was the apprentice Bookman before Lavi, especially with his lines about the Helix of Life. Though that is a theory for another time and I or Ven will make a separate post diving into that. But the important takeaway of this is that Alan dies at his own hand due to Dorian's blackmailing of him and because of guilt he feels at helping him dispose of Basil's body. This is similar to how past Allen takes on Nea's memories, though it is uncertain what became of him. The two of us have many, many theories though, so prepare for that.

I'm thinking that Sybil, Dorian's ex-fiancee who was his first victim could also be Katerina, as she is meant to be Eve, the Earl Adam, and Mana and Nea Cain and Abel. Sybil sacrificed a lot for Dorian, and that was her demise. It was her pure love that killed her. And flashbacks seem to imply that the Earl and Katerina were in love, but something about that led to the Adam she knew disappearing, leaving behind Mana and Nea. However, I'm not too confident in saying that Katerina is the same as Sybil. But perhaps I'll dabble in this thought more in the future.

Since I want to keep this relatively short, consider this the first part of potentially many character analyses. I'll also be coming back to this post a lot when I finally collect all of my thoughts to create a separate post on my personal thoughts on Tykki and Joyd's role in the story.

#dgm theorycrafting #dgm spoilers #dgm #d gray man #wit whisks a theory #dgm character analysis and comparisons part 1 #i have many thoughts on tykki prepare for me to talk about him way too much

[xdarkabyssx]

I should put together a d.gray-man theory board with red string and everything. I am OBSESSED and have so many THEORIES!!!!

#i dont have anyone to share them with either #rip the fandom which is so so so small now and none ofnmy friends are still in it #dgm

[johannwolfgangvongoethe]

Reading Umineko for fun and profit? hopefully?

multiple of my twitter mutuals love this game and talk about it all this time. and it looks really interesting, doesnt it, despite its incredibly intimidating length.

so, there is very little going in that i know about! and i am excited to experience it. :) (assuming i can fight my way through the whole thing) apparently they are all on an island. and someone dies. or something like that. if you are around people who love the game, it is inevitable to know some of the main characters, at least on a surface level. there is obviously beatrice, the woman in the painting, who my (similarily clueless friend) once called "the joker for trans women", which accurately describes her vibes. (i mean this in the most positive way. i am on the edge of my seat) otherwise i really only know battler because of his stupid name (its like hes a shonen protagonist - he has to BATTLE. FIGHT MAN) and the two girls who frequently get drawn alongside each other (the blond and the blue one) that aside, i had the vague mind to ask my friend for specific content warnings i usually look out for and they arent actually in there! even though my friend described the game as "well, in theory, umineko needs a bucket full of content warnings but if i were to list them like an encyclopedia, it would spoiler half of the thing" (great sign)

anyway, so i will write whatever thoughts i have about it. this absolutely will involve spoilers. the version i have is english and has newer sprites. (sort of sad, i actually genuinely think the original round boxxing glove artstyle has an incredible amount of personality to it and despite being wonky, the facial expressions are great)

intro + opening

kinzo in his musty dusty study talks to danjo, his doctor. despite them being friends, their relationship as a doctor and resisting patient is likened to a game of chess. and kinzo is obviously losing. i really like the analogy. his struggle with alcohol and health and his inability to improve his habits are direct moves against his friends medical advise. yet he is also framed as a very wealthy character, a king of sorts. so either way, whether he lives (the doctor convinces him) or dies (he succumbs to alcoholism), the king is lost. is this purposeful? who knows. really paints a picture of him though; there is nothing he wishes to write in his will, he needs no advise, he is actively destroying himself, and he wont leave any inheritance. so adding to his physical health, he really isnt doing well mentally, huh... makes me wonder How Much Of his sickness is related to drinking. it seems like something else is going on, too. him dying to alcoholism would paint a different picture than him being terminally ill and choosing to end his life this way (while still suffering from alcoholism but! you know). maybe then the lost king makes sense - he is lost either way, but he could still choose to make a few last good moves. also he made some sort of contract with beatrice and she has him wrapped around her pinky. well, we shall see.

this line specifically does not seem to bode well. beatrice what are you going to do to those people.

also i didnt watch the opening. my friend told me to watch this one instead :) good music

episode 1, part 1

battler has less dignity to him than i thought. idk what i expected. his name really is that stupid. he is a bit cringe but adorable nonetheless.

Both groups are at the top of my must-kill list. george is voiced by suzumura...

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free space for those who know about my affliction of being a lavi d.gray-man fan. sometimes i can still hear his voice. his glasses do the scary anime villain thing. for now he is very nice, though i am fully expecting some bait and switch for his personality.

anyhow. some more notes:

does battlers upside down cross zipper mean anything??????? i like to imagine hes just a bit chuuni.

everyone in the family has that silly little emblem on their clothing

jessica is an instant fave for me personally bc of how she speaks

eva and natsuhi have some incredible beef going on in the back. love the toxicity going on here. both of them already seem like there is a lot to them, just from the first expressions

there is also some obvious conflict between the servants and the ushiromiya family and also... just between the servants, which is most visible in kanon

apropos. kanon transgender? eyebrow lift

so grandpa beat his kids and grandkids with his own fists and wooden sword. AND his hobby is dark magic. damn

the family is unwell, it seems

i have to strangle battler with my own two hands

the family introduction is very cute and they seem very lively and real, like an endearing bunch. battlers internal monologue is very on point for an 18yo. so sorry about whatever is going to happen. also are their weird western sounding names and the architectures of the guesthouse related to their patriachs obsession with beatrice? (points at her.... white woman.... i think) i wonder how the flight attendants knew how to pronounce all that. its funny to imagine the staff took little notes on it when they checked in.

knowing battler is a mamas boy is a very interesting little bit of info. "father issues damage you but mother issues rewrite your dna" or however that post goes. i absolutely believe in this. its horrifying. knowing battlers mother died and then he lived with his grandparents AND THEN THOSE DIED TOO. GIVE HIM A BREAK!!!! ..... wait this game is about mysterious murders isnt it. oh god.

we are informed there used to be a torii on the coastline of the island but it got destroyed by a lightning. ominous. maria also reacts to this. kumasawa wants to elaborate further on local myths but jessica stops her. there are also no seagulls (ah.... namedrop) to be seen anywhere. lets put a pin in all that for now. children with promonitions are a common trope after all.

now this is a bit of a personal thing but the fact they have a rose garden in full bloom on october is ridiculous. and youre trying to tell me they smell too, despite obviously being modern crossbreeds? get real.

welp. glass shatters. the clock strikes 12 o'clock. thats where im pausing the notes for now.

all that said, dont you think spending that much time talking about how much battler wants to touch his cousins boobs was strange :( dont you think

#seagullposting

[bootlickerhawks]

ARE you caught up on D.Gray-Man?

If so, or from wherever you are in it, how do you think it will end? For the main cast and the Noahs.

Yep! I recently reread the manga (my yearly tradition for 7 years straight 😤) and caught up with all the chapters

I have no clue how the ending will look like cuz Hoshino introduced a lot of new plot points recently: The Millennium Earl being the pillar, Noah clan "pretending to play family with the Earl" (which holy shit that threw me in for a loop), time travel/time loop theory looking more and more likely and god knows what's going on with Apocryphos and the Heart (I do have a crack theory that innocence is alien technology that landed on earth way back when but that's a whole different discussion), and I have no clue how it's all gonna tie together. 

But in general, I think the ending will be bittersweet, very bittersweet ;w;

As for the main cast… 

There's not a doubt in my mind that Lenalee will be fine. She'll live in peace with her brother in the end. There's an 70% chance she'll be the narrator/POV character for the final chapter. I've seen theories that her arc will be abt confronting Levllie which I would like to see

Kanda, I'm sorry to say, is def gonna kick the bucket 😔 But he'll get his closure with Allen and it's gonna be emotional and I'll cry like a baby ;w;

Lavi is alive (and might have already become Bookman?), but given past comments from Hoshino and her editor it sounds like Lavi isn't gonna have a happy ending :(

iirc Hoshino's editor claimed that when he found out abt what Hoshino had planned for Lavi he shivered, so sadly no sunshine and rainbows await my og blorbo ;w;

There's also the theories of Lavi being the Heart or becoming the Noah of Wrath that I really like but idk how likely they are. I used to be pretty confident in the Lavi-Heart theory but now I'm starting to think that the Millennium Earl might be the Heart? or at least part of it? (my reasoning being that if the Earl = Pillar, and the Pillar looks very similar to a Fallen One, so we can assume that the Pillar is linked to innocence. Therefore! The Earl is linked to innocence and might be the Heart!)

(And I think it’s pretty likely that Chaozi will be the one to become the Noah of Wrath.) 

So Lavi will be alive at the end of the series but as a Bookman it's likely he'll reject companionship and end up alone. I really want Lavi to redefine what it means to be a Bookman and find a healthier middle ground but Hoshino's comments don't give me much hope ;w;

Allen... oh Allen... I have 0 clue what Hoshino has planned for Allen (and Neah). I get the feeling that Allen isn't gonna survive at the end but at the same time the current arc has been focusing a lot on his suffering so killing him off would be like kicking a puppy (*insert morbid allen the dog joke here*) 

Neah is an even bigger mystery and I also have no idea what to expect from him. I look forward to him and Allen having a real conversation and I think it's possible we'll see them "fuse" into one person?? Maybe Neah and Mana will sacrifice themselves to save the world and/Allen? maybe??? Who knows! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Neah is a wild card and I really want to find out what his plan is, it must be pretty important if someone like Cross is willing to spend decades trying to carry it out. I personally think his plan is linked to the time-loop theory: if there's a time-loop he's probably the only one who can break it or something along those lines. 

Link will be fine, I think? Maybe?? Link is my second fav so I'm eager to see where his arc will go. Atuuda has opened up an interesting realm of opportunities for his character.  

Johnny’s another wild card, I have no idea what Hoshino has planned for him (other than to be Allen’s anchor). 

On the Noah side, Tyki will definitely be fine. He'll probably fuck off with his human miner friends at the end. I think we’ll see him team-up with Allen and co towards the end (and it’ll probably have to do with why Tyki looks identical to Neah). 

I want to say Wisely will be fine too? But that's prob my own bias speaking lol. I like him so I want him to be fine 🥺

Similar to Tyki, I think Road will team-up with Allen and co but idk if she’ll be alive by the end. She’s one of the oldest characters and she’s from the past generation of Noah. I could see her making a dramatic sacrifice to save Allen or Tyki. Then again, we already saw her sacrificing herself for Allen against Apocryphos so idk if Hoshino will want to rehash that 🤔

Mana/the Earl’s situation is so fucked up, and with the curve balls Hoshino has thrown our way, I have no idea how it’s gonna end. I think it’s possible that Mana will sacrifice himself, either with Neah or Allen, to save the world. But honestly anything is possible 😅

In general, I think the Noah clan's motivations will be revealed to be sympathetic, probably more sympathetic than whatever the Heart/Innocence is trying to accomplish. Personally, I think the Noahs are trying to save/purify humanity (there has to be a reason why the akumas become more human-like with each level) and prevent the Pillar from, you know… exterminating all life on Earth.   

#asks #dgm #once again i've written a ramble that is over 900 words long #i didn't mention the other noahs cuz i dont care abt them and i expect most of them to just be obstacles #long post