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daenysthedreamer101 · 2 months
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Daenys the Dreamer, the woman who foresaw the Doom of Valyria
When Daenys was still a maiden she had a powerful prophetic dream, showing the destruction of Valyria by fire.
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salialenart · 1 month
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Daenys Targaryen with Gaemon Targaryen
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targaryensource · 1 year
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TARGARYEN WEEK Day 4: Favorite Historical Event - Lord Aenar’s maiden daughter Daenys, known forever afterward as Daenys the Dreamer, had foreseen the destruction of Valyria by fire. And when the Doom came twelve years later, the Targaryens were the only dragonlords to survive.
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Valyria before The Doom
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dragon-of-the-soutn · 7 months
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So recently I’ve been seeing a lot of people (mainly on HOTD tick-tock) say that one of the reasons they are ‘team Black’ in the show is because those characters such as Daemon, Rhaenyra and Corleys tend to be more in touch with and happy to embrace there Valyrian customs and heritage. While characters like Aegon, Aemond and Helaena are just blond Hightowers who don’t know what it means to be ‘true Targaryens’ or have been ‘raised wrong’ in terms of there Targaryen heritage.
(Please note that this is going to be a longish post that will be discussing lore from ASOIAF found in books and other material such as the world of ice and fire but because most of this discourse is happening around the show I’ll be discussing the characters as they are displayed in the show.)
Now there is so much to unpack in that but I think the most import thing to talk about is what Valyria and that culture truly was. Because yeah the dragon riding and blood magic is very cool but on the flip side Valyria was an empire that conquered the known world through bloody conquest. Then enslaved there new and unwilling subjects and put them to work in mines and in a hundred other horrible places. These mines were death sentences for the slaves who worked there as they were forced to dig for gold and jewels beneath volcanos such as the fourteen flames, where the Valyrian built there capital city’s on top of those fourteen volcanoes. And it’s suspected that they kept them from erupting by using blood magic and sorcery which was fed by there slaves who were unwilling sacrifice in those rituals.
In the books and show itself the Roynar who are the ancestors of much of Dorne and House Martell itself came to Westeros because they were fleeing Valyrian conquest. The free city of Braavos was founded by slaves who escaped Valyria, it’s the main reason the city is one of the few places in Essos that is staunchly opposed to slavery.
Now while this is technically unconfirmed (this is info given to Arya from a Faceless man) it’s believed that the cult of the Faceless Men was founded in the Valyrian slave mines because each slave was praying for death, so as a kindness the first Faceless Men gave it to them.
Then we have the incest. Believed to have been practiced to keep the dragon riding bloodlines strong, controlled and kept in certain families. Now I don’t think this is a hot take but incest is bad. In any context it’s bad. Please don’t go around snogging your relatives.
The blood magic is interesting as it appears that in ASOIAF most of the magic systems whether they be Green seeing and tied to the Old Gods or fire magic and tied to Valyria are based in blood. For example a prevalent theory is that the early Valyrian’s tampered with there blood so that it was easier for them to bond with dragons. Personally I don’t think there’s anything special in Valyrian blood. I think they probably did mess with it as we can see through some Targ stillborn come out having dragon like features, but at the end of the day anyone in ASOIAF can do some level of magic as displayed in characters like Marwin the Mage (who is most likely half Hightower btw) and even Jaime Lannister who had a prophetic dream but only around a magical thing which was a weirwood stump. And the Targs (particularly the early ones) were always around dragons which in this case are the magical objects along with having messed up blood magic blood. Which is cool but can’t be good for them. Also Green Seer magic seems to involve cannibalism which again is bad!
Also the doom of Valyria occurred because these people decided to build there major city atop 14 active super volcanos and then dug into the super volcanoes thinking everything would be fine and dandy. They were killed because of there own hubris.
Which is how we get onto the idea that the Hightower’s somehow ‘infected’ and ‘poisoned’ the Targaryen bloodline and ruined everything for everyone. Which is a very dangerous line of thinking even when we’re just discussing a book series. It leads into ideas of blood purity which again are disgusting and horrible and should never be considered good. Ever.
The Hightowers are not the reason the Tags rotted away. They were always rotting. Also Viserys made the choice to marry into the Nobel House with the most ties to the Faith of the Seven. We can argue about how much influence Otto had on the matter and obviously he did but at the end of the day Viserys still made that decision. He could have put his foot down and said no but he didn’t. Like he married a fantasy catholic and now everyone is shocked that the fantasy catholic is serious about her religion.
Also the reason Aegon, Aemond, Daeron and Helaena ‘act like Hightowers’ is because Alicent raised those kids not Viserys. Whatever you think about Alicents parenting she at the bare minimum parented. Viserys ignored his children from his second marriage in favour of trying to sooth his guilt over murdering Aemma and he focused his efforts on Rhaenyra and her children. So yes ‘the Green’ kids act like Hightowers because guess what Alicent was the only one who put any effort into raising them and raised them the only way she knew how, as Hightower. But like also her kids all ride dragons, Alicents grandkids are bonded to dragons. They are Targaryens. Even without the dragons they would still be Targaryens. And if we followed that logic than every Targ born after the dance wouldn’t be a ‘True Targaryen’ because they didn’t have dragons or were half Martell or Blackwood and those families have ‘poisoned’ the Targ bloodline. I cannot stress enough how gross that line of thinking is even when we’re using it to discuss a book series.
And the characters in the story who are the most fascinated by the lost glories of Valyria such as Viserys and Daemon are focusing on the lost prestige of there ancestors dead empire. They either don’t think about the horrors of what that place was, or there fine with them which says a lot about there characters and the way they view themselves and the people they rule.
I repeat Valyria was not a nice place. It was not a good place. It’s an interesting place and it’s affects on the Targaryens are fascinating and I would love to learn more about it but it was an evil empire.
The closest thing we have to Valyria remaining in the books is the free city of Volantis. Which is an old colony of Valyria, still has none dragon riding descendants of Valyria living there and is the biggest slave city outside of slavers bay. Volantis is a horrible place.
My point is placing Valyrian and in a sense Targaryen customs and heritage on a pedestal means that we ignore all the dodgey and horrifying stuff that entails or at the very least don’t look at it critically and that’s not good.
And yes this is only a book series so we don’t need to be so serious, but I would make the argument that when one of your major reasons for supporting one side in a conflict is because there more ‘pure anything’ than another then you need to take a step back and reevaluate.
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gracielikegrapes · 8 months
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It was just an idea when Ashes on the fire (AOT) came on my playlist, y'know the GOOD bit (like 3:15 or somthing) this is just doodles, no titan caused the doom of valyria lol.
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muadweeb · 1 year
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Gorghan of Old Ghis once wrote that a prophecy is like a treacherous woman. She takes your member in her mouth, and you moan with the pleasure of it and think, how sweet, how fine, how good this is....and then her teeth snap shut and your moans turn to screams. That is the nature of prophecy, said Gorghan. Prophecy will bite your prick off every time.
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edrawingarts · 7 months
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Lord Gaemon Targaryen otherwise known as “Gaemon the Glorious”.
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Gaemon was the son of Lord Aenar Targaryen and had at least one sister, Daenys Targaryen. He came to Dragonstone along his family in 114 BC.
Gaemon was married to Daenys and together they had several children, Aegon, Elaena, and at least one younger daughter. Aegon and Elaena eventually inherited the rule of Dragonstone from Gaemon.
Gaemon was called "Gaemon the Glorious", and he is remembered as the greatest Targaryen Lord of Dragonstone during the Century of Blood.
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Guh anyway Gaemon is such a PRETTY BOY, like the vlayrian genes are valyraing. In my silly head of mine he would be the son of Aenar’s 4th wife (go on my page to find out who that is) making him younger than Daenys.
Master list: here.
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midwesternnerd-asoiaf · 10 months
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On Valyria and the Doom
Warning: this is mostly conjecture
I want to write in-depth theories on the history of Planetos, but in order to do that, I need to address the fading of magic.
And in order to do that, I have to talk about Valyria.
“Perhaps magic was once a mighty force in the world, but no longer. What little remains is no more than the wisp of smoke that lingers in the air after a great fire has burned out, and even that is fading. Valyria was the last ember, and Valyria is gone” - Maester Luwin
The prevailing view in Westeros is that magic died in the west when the doom fell on Valyria. And I do believe that that view is mostly correct. However, I also don’t think that magic didn’t suddenly stop working one day. I posit that because of Valyrian practices, magic was pulled from other regions of the world and concentrated in Valyria.
This is because Valyria was a conquering, enslaving, brutal empire. The function of an empire is always to extract value from outlying regions and pull it into the center of said empire. Whether that value be in the form of gold, or slaves, or crops, or mineral resources, the outcome is the same. And in the world of Planetos, there is another resource: magic.
The concentration of magic in Valyria may have been purposefully done by the Valyrians. Or perhaps it was a natural consequence of their imperialism. Whatever the case, this would explain why Luwin refers to Valyria as the “last ember” of magic. As Valyria concentrated more and more magic on itself, there was naturally less magic in other places. Although it does seem like magic was able to keep going strong in far-flung Asshai, magic was weakened everywhere even remotely near to Valyria.
But we all know what magic is like on Planetos. It’s strange, and esoteric. It is a sword without a hilt. It’s powerful and dangerous and unpredictable and…
Explosive.
With so much magic concentrated in one place, Valyria would’ve been a magical powder keg. Just one thing going wrong could’ve caused the magical chain reaction that destroyed Valyria and created the Smoking Sea. Perhaps a volcano goes off, causing all of the concentrated magic to violently react and destroy everything. And with that explosion, all of the taken magic is gone. It doesn’t flow back or anything. It’s gone.
And once all the magic got exploded, it took a while to really start coming back. First, it starts coming back into the edges of the affected region, in the lands of always winter with the Others. And then it flows inward, bringing direwolves, bringing giants, bringing resurrection, bringing dragons and flaming swords. The greed of the Valyrians damaged the magic of Planetos, and now it’s beginning to heal. For better or worse.
TL;DR
The Valyrian Doom was caused by the Valyrians concentrating a bunch of magic in one spot, and because magic is dangerous, the magic blew up. This damaged the magic of Planetos, and now the magic is healing.
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harlyncreates · 2 years
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Daenys “the dreamer” Targaryen.
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silvermoon424 · 11 months
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What's your theory on what caused the Doom of Valyria? 🤔
oooooh, good question!! There are several theories posited in canon so I have some choices. I think my favorite one is that the Dragonlords of Old Valyria kept sending assassins to murder each other's fire mages as part of a power struggle. The fire mages were responsible for keeping the Fourteen Flames- a chain of active volcanoes surrounding Valyria- dormant with magic.
When too many mages were killed, there wasn't enough magic to keep the Fourteen Flames subdued anymore and they all erupted at once. The resulting cataclysm wiped Valyria off the map. There's also definitely some magical deviance afoot in the ruins of Old Valyria, because every time that place is mentioned/visited something horrible and unnatural happens (shoutout to my girl Aerea Targaryen who fucked around and found out).
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salialenart · 4 months
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Daenys Targaryen, called Daenys the Dreamer
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mother-of-felines · 2 years
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Who else would like to watch a series about the Doom of Valyria?
I don’t know much about it but from what I do know, it reminds me of the story of Atlantis.
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dinastiatargaryen · 1 year
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Targaryen, a única família de Senhores de Dragões a sobreviver a Perdição de Valíria.
🔥🐲
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asoiafreadthru · 7 months
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A Game of Thrones, Daenerys I
Inside the manse, the air was heavy with the scent of spices, pinchfire and sweet lemon and cinnamon.
They were escorted across the entry hall, where a mosaic of colored glass depicted the Doom of Valyria. Oil burned in black iron lanterns all along the walls.
Beneath an arch of twining stone leaves, a eunuch sang their coming.
“Viserys of the House Targaryen, the Third of His Name,” he called in a high, sweet voice, “King of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm.
“His sister, Daenerys Stormborn, Princess of Dragonstone.
“His honorable host, Illyrio Mopatis, Magister of the Free City of Pentos.”
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