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genericdre · 3 years

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YES awkwafina's bullshit SUCKS SOME MAJOR FUCKING ASS. however shang chi is kinda HUGE for the asian community ??? so many ppl pushed to get it to happen. like. as a little kid i genuinely thought i wasnt allowed to be a superhero bc i was asian. and now we're FINALLY getting a movie n my little sister is gonna b able to watch a movie with an asian super hero and ohhhhh. this is !!!! important !!!!!!

uhhhh im gonna get rambly anyways - i have not and will not watch pretty in pink bc its. ✨racist✨. enough that my parents warned me not to see it ! i have not and will not watch music bc it is. gross. and horrible. ableist and blackface like how did yall manage to get both.

however ! i do listen to queen latifah despite her anti-korean comments. because her music spreads a message abt sexism in the rap industry and while i am all :( thats still like ! important !!!!

AND it would b fine if i as a korean person DIDNT want to listen to her stuff. however it would b uncool for me to go an tell people that they're gross for listening to her music an that they shouldnt play it or whatever cause like. understandable. representation and equality. important.

anyways point is stop trying to get shang chi to tank. idc !!! if u dont want to watch it !!!!!!! stop actively discouraging others and calling them racist for watching it !!!!!!!!

the last time i said this i got "wtf is a poc movie" so like. to make it clearer or whatever. if the first poc centric movie that one of the most mainstream series has put out in years bombs horribly. that is not uh gonna help with anti racism thats actually just gonna ensure we dont get any rep .

I have nothing to add radish you literally said it perfectly

#like I’m white so I really don’t have a place to say #like at least on the whole Aquafina thing #Bc I honestly have no idea what her tea is #BUT #I do know how trailers and media coverage works #and the Shang-chi trailer looks like it’s been purposefully made to look meh #I can’t explain it but the pacing of the trailer is so horrible #and they choose the lamest lines and scenes to put into the trailer #also people only really know about this movie if they’re deep in the mcu world #like I even only found out about it a few weeks ago while watching the black pink movie #and I’ve only ever seen simu liu post about it #and I follow nearly every marvel actor and marvel insta page #sooooo #Idek #it’s felt weird this whole time

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g3nosarchive · 3 years

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ok i genuinely think a lot of other people have this problem but stop inserting yourself when xyz issue is mentioned. when someone is telling you that a person, a celebrity, some franchise is harming their identity or anyone’s identity as a minority, or part of a certain race or religion or anything shut the fuck up and accept it.

they do not need to know your emotional attachment to said thing, your disbelief, your horror, your personal experience - we didn’t ask for all that. we know just how bad it is, cus yk it harms us maybe? we’ve already gone through the cycle of being angry and indignant and now we’re here trying to get you to understand in the hopes that as a friend you do what you’re meant to do when you became friends with us. we are not your constant ball of anger to use whenever you find something that’s “crazy, unbelievably, shockingly” once again, a hate crime, when you decide you want to feel angry and care about it.

more under the cut bc i talk too much

by doing that, you’re making an issue that you didn’t even know about suddenly yours. ask yourself, what is the purpose for telling anyone all that? to get them to sympathize with you personally so you can get a pass because you didn’t know? of course you don’t know, of course you’re unaware, that’s the whole reason why you’re being told in the first place. do not water down the issue or even try to play the ‘everything has some issue like this so there’s no point in going this far’ card. especially as a white person. the reason why you don’t know primarily is because it doesn’t affect you and it doesn’t cross your mind.

when you watch a show with a black character, you don’t care about how off the character design is or how stereotypical and borderline racist the comedy gag surrounding said character is. when you listen to your favorite white music artists or watch your favorite movie with a majority white cast, white staff, white team, and white theme, you don’t care to analyze just how outdated and stereotypical the way that token asian character is portrayed. some of y’all don’t understand and will never understand the mental struggle and awareness forever plugged into the brain of lgbt and/or poc, especially black people when we consume anything, when we go anywhere, when we meet new people, to constantly catch those micro aggressions and know what to avoid.

so when someone tells you insert classic hot mess is racist and you should stop supporting it, one of the worst things you can do beside outright rejecting it is to defend it and insinuate that we don’t know what we’re talking about, that we need 30 different sources to prove it all, that you don’t think (for example taylor swifts dream colonized africa mv) is bad. you try to say the thing or person that is actively promoting all this homophobia, racism, transmisogyny etc needs to be kindly educated, is trying their best, will learn soon enough, just wasn’t educated, will do better in the future (esp looking at u kpop stans). does their apparent regret but refusal to properly apologize actually matter? the damage has already been done.

that in itself is a privilege i could never have. i don’t even try being a fan of any major white celebrity or any kpop group because i guarantee if i search up their name with ‘racist’, ‘sexist’, ‘homophobic’, ‘transphobic’, ‘cultural appropriation’ behind it something or some image is bound to show up. you will all say “oh they haven’t done anything yet” but when it comes out that they did, they have, and they do not care about who it affects, suddenly it’s a bombshell dropped on you out of nowhere.

it’s not that hard to spot these things actually. if your fav is constantly putting themselves against people of color, saying shady shit about non cishets while being a cishet themself, saying one thing and doing another, or has been silent when their voice was expected to speak up, shouldn’t you notice? y’all will reblog all these posts but in reality only 10% are actually reading and listening and actually digesting this information for future use.

and i think the thing that pisses me off is this is all from personal experience where i’m speaking from. over the past 2 days the amount of times if i’ve heard about the “tea that dropped w meghan markle” is ridiculous and annoying. a girl texted me and i sat there and i realized that she does this on a daily basis to fuel my anger and get me to validate her own useless anger. of course i knew about it and i wasn’t surprised at all - she’s still a black woman.

almost every black blog on here, when they get big enough, deals with some sort of weird shit surrounding their blackness. if you get big on speaking about issues you are now this emotionless token ‘smart black person i can actually trust’ to use as your replacement for google. this is not to say asking questions is bad, but it is so easy to pull up some of the shit you guys ask for. some people get called slurs directly, targeted for being too black or not black enough, attacked for their features and etc and someone mentioned this before but the only people that care in those situations are other black people themselves. white people will have blm in their bio but turn the other way the minute some anon starts acting up in their mutuals’ inbox, calling them a dark1e because they felt confident enough to post some selfies. and then you get sad when we dont go to you for any kind of support?

i’ve stated sometimes that asking me questions on issues and things is okay, but one of the main reasons i say that is because whether i say it or not, i’ll be asked questions and expected to know everything and i am your personal walking encyclopedia and ofc it’s natural for me to have all this information in my head, as if i didn’t research it myself. but then i think about the numerous amounts of people that specifically say not to ask them this shit because it really does tire you out, that they don’t want to have to deal with this in any space but they still get them.

and then the ones that don’t even know themself so people will use them as an example and say “well this person didn’t know and they’re ‘marginalized identity’ so it should be fine for me too”. good god just apologize, show that you really care, change your behavior and move on. do you think it was fun being asked the statistics for george floyd’s and other black peoples death in class? that you were being inclusive and giving me a chance to show off my intelligence, to prove to others that i really had something up here and you were my greatest star eyes white friend that gave me that chance? i cant close my posts like this properly but i want you to think about that shit and actually ask yourself if you’d do that. a lot of you will read this and think “i’m not that type of racist” “i don’t have those deep seated prejudices in me” yes you do. you just haven’t been called out on it.

for all the shit ive dealt with above, if i’ve ever talked to you about this before dont come to me to apologize i do not need it and you are not the only person i’ve received this from. i guarantee you that there’s about 20 other people i’ve thought about while writing this post considering i’m a black person in the real world, so keep your guilt to yourself an deal with it

white people don’t add on to this

#important #antiblackness #george floyd #death mention #ok to rb #more than ok but #here it is 😇#ill rb this everyday if i have to

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redeyessharplies · 6 years

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Dear Anon Who Asked Me About White Privilege

I didn’t answer your question on what white privilege means to me because when people talk about white privilege they often do so in a “white Americans vs African American’ sense and since I am a mixed Filipino Australian I don’t really have the right to speak about it in relation to that.

I would never try to talk for someone elses experience because I dont have the right to. However I can talk for the things I have seen and experienced.

What does white privilege mean to me as an Australian?

White privilege in Australia looks like the government patting itself on the back for making an apology for the stolen generation while refusing refugees entrance and protection. White privilege as an Australian looks like going to Bali and disgracing our national reputation with the excuse of ‘its fine everyone does dumb shit in Bali the locals are used to it’. White privilege here is talking shit about visiting teams in the cricket, including making racist jokes at their expense, but using the guise of sport and competition to ignore it when they are offended. White privilege is listening to people complain about how selfish our Indigenous people are for taking back their sacred lands.

White privilege is when in some small towns if you run over an indigenous person because they fell asleep on the road where it’s warm, the police will tell you to get back in your car and keep driving. Because if the family finds out they will hunt you down. Because your life is worth more.

What does white privilege mean to me as an Asian POC?

White privilege when you’re an Asian POC is hard because you want to speak up and say what your white friends are doing is wrong but a lot of the time they’ll dismiss what you say because it isn’t as bad for you as it is for other minorities. It’s turning my music up when I was in high school and the guys would play “Spot the Aussie” in Sydney and joke about the Asian invasion.

I think an experience I had that really pointed out just how white privilege effects me personally as a biracial person happened last year near Harmony Day (ironic because it’s a day we celebrate that Australia is a multicultural country).

I was with a group of six guys, there were seven of us all together, of the seven six of us were POC’s. We were recording a music video for a rap song and the guy who was in charge of the shoot was a white Australian. He had gone back to his car to get something and we were hanging out waiting for him. We were doing the video at a beach area where there were a lot of families around and I noticed the way that people, specifically white mothers, were looking at us and telling their kids to move either closer to them or just generally away from us. The fact that one of the guys was practicing his rap which he had written in his mother tongue really seemed to have them on edge. Then our white friend/director came back over and you could see the change.

As soon as he came over and it was obvious that he was with us, they all seemed to relax. Some would still look over now and then but usually one smile from him and they would be put at ease.

We hadn’t been doing anything wrong, we weren’t smoking or wearing anything associated with gangs, or anything, but we needed a white person with us for the surrounding people to relax.

I know this probably isn’t what you had in mind, and I guess some of this is more racism in general as opposed to white privilege. I could easily talk about how jobs are given to white Australians more often than POC’s or any number of other examples that can be seen not just here but on a global stage but this is a more individual account. So yeah...

#ooc #white privelage #racism #personal

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do-you-have-a-flag · 6 years

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racism isn't unintentional, they were well aware of what they were doing when they reduced poe to harmful stereotypes and sidelined finn in favor of white ppl, and it was a deliberate and homophobic choice to make everyone straight, none of this is unintentional which is kind of the entire issue and they do not deserve leniency or forgiveness and im glad that it's reflected in audience reviews b/c frankly LGBT and fans of color didn't like it for good reasons dont invalidate that b/c ur white

“at this point im so distracted by the homophobia and racism that every single character being out of character is just like the icing on the cake, like have your opinion on the movie but don’t be surprised that fans we’re digging the blatant racism and homophobia (and seriously, never again say they meant well when writing in racists tropes, thats fucking gross dude)my mood is u using “or*entalist” while trying to explain that you’re not ignoring the racism in the fandom… you literally said it was good intentions gone wrong that led to the racism we saw on screen, it wasn’t! it was white dudes who loved kylo ren as much as every other white person and hated all of the poc in the movie, if lgbt/poc fans are saying the movie was shit you know they’re saying that b/c we got shafted so dont be like “well it had good parts” like who cares, it was bigoted”

firstly: I use the term orientalist in the context of the racist exotification of east asians by western countries, england and america have a history of this, so does australia, I’m specifically addressing that exact form of appropriation as opposed to, for example, the appropriation of black culture, it was an attempt to conjure up specific associations to make a point and i’m sorry i wasn’t clear enough in my use of the word I assumed i would be understood but I should have worded myself better.

like i said before, I can’t speak for the entire lgbt community by from my tiny place in it and for myself I never expect a mainstream genre film coming out at this point in time to give us anything more than maybe audience baiting, tv shows have more freedom but even Star Trek, a franchise of similar standing to star wars, only managed last year to make canon gay characters a thing that wasn’t subtextual and it was only a few seconds of screentime. Is it disappointing and frustrating? Absolutely! we need to keep pushing for representation. but i wouldn’t call it’s exclusion homophobia but rather a result of the inability for the franchise to go beyond what’s safe in representation due to the homophobic culture of the west and in overseas markets (such as china).

If we’re going to change this garbage representation we have to think nuanced about it, individuals can be pressured to change but we have to understand who they answer to. Money is of course the root of all this, the fear of losing their biggest over seas market is one thing, if Disney owned Marvel movies edit the race of their character to avoid losing Chana’s audience don’t you think that Disney owned Star Wars might be in the same shitty position in terms of LGBT content? You don’t think that a franchise so entrenched in military skirmishes that WARS is in the title might have some other motivations that we need to examine critically? after all the Pentagon funds movies provisionally based on how positively they show militaristic content, and space fascists aside let’s not forget it is about generals and fighter pilots and bombardiers. there are a lot of institutions at play here in the influencing of how the movie show’s it’s content. it’s not just one man it is many making these bad decisions.

And as for racial representation as i stated i love the casting personally of poe and finn and rose, and the various resistance members, but I cannot speak on their characterisation and stereotypes and would like to see the arguments against them laid out because this really is the point i have least perspective on.

Racism based on skin isn’t something i face because growing up in australia my mum immigrated here after the white australia policy was already ended, australia is still a racist country and the type of racism my mum and i faced was based on accent and sterotypes about “wogs” and horrible nationalism and islamophobia. SO I don’t get a say in if it’s bigoted or not. But I do want to be able to talk to people who, because of my weird accent assume i’m american, will let their guard down enough for me to amplify the voices of people of colour concerned about this film. I want to be able to talk to people who because of my presentation of femininity assume i’m straight, will let their guard down, and i can talk to them and about why i think lgbt representation is important and should have been in this film.

my enjoyment of a movie doesn’t make it morally pure, i don’t believe any movie is morally pure, but i think we have to rate these things complexly and I care that it had good parts because kids deserve to see themselves in fun genre movies and this film was a baby step and coul have been better but if people keep buzzing about the stuff they want then the garbage money driven execs might be less resistant next time around

star wars is too big a franchise to die, it survived the prequels after all, so we have to be SPECIFIC with our criticisms if we want change.

listen, you seem determined to hate me and that’s fine, I’d rather you didn’t but you don’t have to like the movie that’s okay.

bigotry is pervasive in many cultures, we have to get rid of it, and your anger and frustration is an important part of that.

but i’m only gonna respond with my thoughts and feeling and my thoughts are that if we wanna fix things we have to be clear and nuanced in our discussions before we outright dismiss this type of film, my feelings are that it’s fiction shaped by the climate it was made in and the responses to it are also shaped by that climate and from my position in al this i have some criticisms but overall don’t think it is the be all and end all battlefield for representation.

anyway, another bias i have is i assume that people working on a franchise they love are gonna go in with good intentions, they have their own blind spots and biases that result in bad writing and casting decisions. being aware of these things is not excusing them it’s putting them in context. wanna change it? write about it. be clear. make a vlog. record a podcast. you sent me a message and that amplified your words so that’s a good step forward but you’re still being really vague be more specific

i agree with your concepts but not your specifics because you’re being too general with me.

i don’t appreciate your tone because i have, you know, emotions, but my emotions aren’t what matter here, i still see what you’re saying and while i don’t agree with how you’re coming at it i think you’re being hyperbolic based on truths. they should have done better.

listen, i don’t know who you are but i’m not here to fight you, hey, what would you recommend I watch instead in terms of film? I can think of some decent scifi and fantasy content that have POC character and/or LGBT content in terms of tv that i have and haven’t watched (luke cage, star trek, the exorcist, raising dion, sense8, Shadowhunters) but it’s not enough and in varying levels of quality but if you have movie recs you think are good on this measure i wanna hear them because everyone deserves good scifi and fantasy stories

#Anonymous #long post

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nonbinary-support · 7 years

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so my own culture has a third gender (hijra), but is it okay if i don't really identify with that already existing identity for personal reasons and instead prefer agender or nonbinary? because it'd probably be easier for me to come out to my parents if i did identify with it, but it just doesn't fit, and it makes me feel like i'm disrespecting my own culture by not identifying with it.

i have other friends who feel similar to you with their own cultural/third genders!

you are not obligated to identify a certain way for others! identify how you want, and how you feel. if you dont feel like a hijra, that’s okay! you are not any less south asian (i know hijra is prominent in a few south asian countries so thats why im keeping it general) for not identifying as a hijra!!!

listen, if white people can be agender and still be white, poc who come from cultures with third genders can be agender and still be their own ethnicity/race.

you’re fine, anon!

-mod tabby (someone who is also struggling with cultural gender stuff)

#queue #Anonymous

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ace-shitcourse · 7 years

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It's not just one person though? It's a lot of people--some ace, many white, most cishet--saying "this asian mlm with body issues and canon anxiety cannot possible be sexually attracted to his fiance." If you think that's okay, I want you to self reflect.

i like how i said i wanted this conversation to end but you just. keep coming back....

i have not seen anybody say “this character cannot possibly be sexually attracted to his partner”, first of all

second, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS SHOW. IF THIS CHARACTER HAS CANON ANXIETIES, BODY ISSUES, ETC. I DID NOT KNOW AND IT IS UNFAIR OF YOU TO EXPECT ME TO KNOW

For the millionth time, as an asian bi ace, I see no issue with other people headcanoning an asian mlm as being ace-spec. i know i dont speak for all asians, but that is my view, and you can’t make me be offended by other peoples headcanons. i have no reason to be. it’s fine if other people are, their feelings are valid, but not everyone is going to agree

again for the millionth time, who is making the headcanon matters. fine, yes if a cis heterosexual white person is headcanoning this character as ace and you find out their reasoning is essentially “gay sex is gross” yes that is homophobic. or if their reasoning is essentially “poc having sex is gross” yes that is racist. but you can’t assume that everyone thinks that!

and as I stated before, I personally think that asians are actually fetishized by society and white people in particular, so your almost insistence that it’s wrong to headcanon this asian character as anything BUT sexual kind of makes me uncomfortable and kind of is offensive to me and plays into the “asians are fetishized by society” thing. but again, thats just me.

and you can’t really say asians are not oversexualized or fetishized, at least a little bit. especially by white people. and if you, anon, are not asian, I’m asking you to listen to me, a Real Life Asian, when I say that yes, we are, and if you won’t listen to me when it comes to this and continue to insist or imply that i don’t know what im talking about, I’m gonna have to ask you to self reflect on why you won’t listen to an asian person when it comes to how society treats and views us.

(and if you are asian, i apologize, and if you don’t think society treats us that way at least somewhat, fine, but respect that I see it that way and am made very uncomfortable by it)

now please... i am sick of hearing about this character and this anime. i literally do not care about yuri on ice. at all. please stop bringing it up and please. i have said my points. i have stated my views. please leave me alone about it. im so tired.

#ask #next person who brings yuri on ice into my inbox gets blocked #and im only half joking when i say that #Anonymous

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