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antimony-medusa · 1 year

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Okay so inspired by nothing in particular (it's inspired by reading the notes on the ace swag final poll, fun stuff in there), I have been thinking about being Cringe. Cause like, you enter a fandom, and usually, you find out shortly that somebody else hates that fandom. There is no fandom niche enough that it's not Weird to somebody, and there's no fandom mainstream enough that it's not Annoying to somebody else. And given the fact that some people do hatred recreationally, there's often going to be somebody mad enough about your fandom that they're going to go on diatribes about how your fandom is bad and actually harmful and destroying the fabric of civilization, etc. They're gonna pull out anything negative and blow it up until it's the size of the skyline and attack you for liking this negative thing.

Fun times, we've all seen it.

And the thing is, there's an impulse to have this happen and immediately find somebody else to point to and say, yeah, well, I might be weird, but at least I'm not THAT guy. I might read YA, but at least I'm not a Furry— those guys are sexual deviants! I might be into actual play podcasts, but at least I'm not into mcyt— those guys are all harmful and my guy is fine. I might be into danmei, but at least I'm not into bandom— rpf is so gross. I might be a furry, but at least I'm not into mainstream romance novels— senseless drivel aimed at middle class white women. Y'know. Immediately find someone to punch down on.

And boy do I understand why you want to do that, when people are pointing at you, but I don't actually think that it's helpful.

Cause like, every fandom has a logical train of thought and reasonable human impulses behind it. You might not share those impulses— I'm not a furry I don't think, I don't really get true crime— but that doesn't mean I can't have it explained to me by a very patient person in in the writer's workshop common room and go "oh, yeah, kinda pretending to be an animal, but you're gay about it, yeah, makes sense", or "oh yeah, morbid curiosity from the safety of your headphones, it's like a horror movie but real" and nod. Like there isn't a fandom or group out there that doesn't look weird from the outside, and there isn't a fandom or group that can't be explained if someone has thought about the human psyche enough.

And that isn't to say that there isn't sometimes salient critiques for what fandoms are doing or not doing— to grab the two examples above, I have heard people talking about issues with true crime reinforcing the current fucked up justice system, or bigotry at furry cons. But a) most of the time, there is already somebody inside that community that's fighting against those issues, and you just threw them under the bus with the problem they're trying to fix b) you don't usually know the nuances of the actual conversation and problems, you saw a couple callout posts. You saying "Yeah I'm a board game nerd but at least I don't play competitive trading card cames, those guys are doing nothing but feeding the capitalist machine" is not usually helpful towards fixing the ctg scene. It's just a cheap way to score points.

Like, I assure you that the YA scene is aware of the calcification of the genre into a tighter and tighter romantic form and their dependence on going big on tik-tok to sell enough to keep publishing. They know.

You specifically saying that your fandom is better cause it's not [problems you heard about other fandom having] is not actually going to make the person who's hating on you stop hating. They already decided that you're the person they're better than and that they're punching down on, you passing the punching down on to another fandom just makes more people sad on the internet, and potentially starts yet another chain of someone punching down at someone else. The wheel grinds on, everybody gets punched.

I guess this is just kinda turning into a "why hate on the internet, what good does that do" post, which is broader than I meant it to be. But like, there's a difference between thoughtful critique of problems (complicated to do fairly but very necessary) and finding someone new to curbstomp to make yourself feel better/morally superior (look, I'm writing this on a mcyt blog, we've all seen this happen, it does not increase the joy in the world).

Like in MCYT, we all decide to punch down on [other server we hate], or RPF, or people who write kidfic, or people who write e-rated fic/art, or people doing the popular trope of the moment, and sure, it lets you feel morally superior for the moment, at the cost of slapping the guy next to you. Haven't we had enough slapping the guy next to you? There but for the grace of god (got a fun idea/watched the wrong stream/ended up in the wrong brainstorming circle/got fixated on the wrong funny guy) goes I. You're not better than another group just because you saw a couple more callout posts (usually from people inside the community trying to fix things) about them.

We are all Cringe. There is nobody who's not Cringe. Don't say that you're not Cringe because someone else is more Cringe. Stop that.

#discourse #This is another thing where the public/private rule applies too I think #cause social media is public and what you do there is governed by different politeness rules #walking into your friend's dms and saying GOD I AM SO ANNOYED BY [other fandom] is a normal human impulse #posting that where other people can see that is potentially much more like shouting in the face of a random person #idk this is potentially something where me having a thousand followers is warping the perspective #cause I try to be really aware of the fact that who knows what people who see my posts are into #there's nobody I can throw under the bus and not have them see it #if you have eight followers all of which you know #you're much more effectively in a private space #idk #boy reading the tags on that ace swag poll was kinda a Oh Yeah They Really Hate Us moment #I forgot that cause I was just happy over here #but boy are we still an internet's favoured punching bag #and I just think making an effort to not continue to punching bag people might be good #fandom meta

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lamentablequeen · 2 months

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i need to be picked up and put in my home biome right the fuck now

#what do you mean i cant see a mountain from here #i read like eight papers today on human modification of landscapes specifically intentional burning #and i was like. jesus christ #i neeeeeeeed to be on the west coast again!!!#we do it different etc #im being tortured tantalus style by this list of native species of the central coast range!!!!!!!#stop mentioning places i live and native plants i know ill cryyyyyyyyy #robin wall kimmerer the ecology writer of allllll time you have changed how i think about place so much #i need to see a redwood or sequoia tree or ill throw up #(technically they are sequoias but whatev.)

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bookwyrminspiration · 2 years

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can you just like imagine being James Holden? he grew up in Montana with eight parents then ran away to join the military, got kicked out, and became an ice hauler, which is like the equivalent of being a garbage truck driver in terms of how essential yet unappreciated it is, but then the truck fuckin got exploded by politics and long story short two years later he's got a psychic connection to this entity/extraterrestrial disease that breaks the laws of physics and reality and has become the most well known person in the universe now making calls affecting the fate of all of humanity, talking to world leaders and reshaping history.

imagine being a garbage truck driver and then a few years later the president is calling you like hey I need your help and you're like yeah this is normal and then you discover a billion planets while discovering new physics and go "well...that's going to be a political problem :/" like he was just an ice hauler a few years ago how did he get here

#james holden #the expanse #like yeah I know how he got there. but like how did he get there #also some of the time measurements might be off it's been a while okay #shout out to holden for having eight biological parents though. pretty cool of him #anyway #like his life so radically changed #and he just always looks so tired of it. just like ah shit here we go again #sci-fi is just like that sometimes I guess #anyway holden isn't even my favorite character I just can't stop thinking about it

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heart-of-a-rebel16 · 6 months

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Djwivrsjdhdhv *trips over myself to drop into your inbox*

Friend friend

In your tags earlier on your post, you know the one the one-

When you were asking why The Bendu, a Lasat God, was on atollon????

I've been searching, but I can't pinpoint where exactly the star cluster leading to Lira San is located, but considering that some time VERY long ago, the Lasat people left Lira San and settled on Lasan, there's a good chance they made stops along the way, maybe stayed for prolonged periods of time.

Maybe the manifestations of The Ashla/The Bendu/The Bogan made attachments to some of these places. What if Atollon was one of the stopping points along the way from Lira San to Lasan?????

Okay bye now I have a one shot I'm working on and an interview I'm preparing for, so do with the above ramblings of a mad fan what you will-

OH THATS SO COOL!!!!!!!!!!!

In a similar vein, Lira San was hidden just like Atollon was (though obviously not to the same degree), so maybe there should be a manifestation of the Ashla on Lira San just like the Bendu (except with way less spider caves, lucky for Zeb).

pardon my brief theological ramblings for a bit, but I’m bouncing between the bogan, Bendu, and Ashla being a pantheon and being triune (meaning they are at the same time distinct and the same whole, I.e in trinitarian christianity Jesus is fully Jesus and fully god at the same time). If they were triune, that’s actually pretty fascinating, because it prevents something like tcws mortis arc from happening (where one kills the other), because they are fully each other and fully separate at the same time. It also strengthens that the force is genuinely neutral, and that they truly are consubstantial in the fact that they are of the same substance but perform different actions/uses.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, if they’re a pantheon of gods, a) that makes it way, way easier for them to operate separately of each other, b) it allows for lesser gods in the hierarchy of Lasat gods, c) it allows for infighting among the gods (i.e a celestial war, which could maybe still fit with the consubstantial triune thing if I got freaky with it?). Maybe the bogan could not be evil just like the ashla maybe couldn’t be good, they’re just manifestations of light and darkness. AND THEN, that allows for sects and cults to form where extremist groups elevate one of the three above the other and twist their desires to fit their own agendas (I’ve already kinda started with this on Stars Go Dim, be on the lookout for Eversor :3).

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canarymemories · 25 days

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until i found you

rating: general audiences archive warning: no archive warnings apply relationship: sena izumi/tsukinaga leo additional tags: fluff, established relationship, domestic fluff, there's a dash of naruritsu in there for the naruritsuers in chat, merch collector leo my beloved, trans male character, it's for a really brief line but., nui izuleo my beloved, they are so cringe (affectionate) to me 🥺, humor published: 2024-04-05 words: 11,039

summary: leo places a nui of himself in izumi’s waiting palms.

or izumi babysits a nui while leo is out of the country for a week.

here on ao3

#my fics #izuleo #enstars #nui izlo is finally out there in the world 🥹🥹#today is actually exactly eight months since i started writing it #and i only thought it would be like 5-7k and here we are lmao #i'll miss this fic not being in my drafts i think fkslsl #anyway i have so many things to say abt it so you'll probably see me talking abt it again

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moe-broey · 2 months

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Whew!!! Side Order is sooooo stressful I have been mauled and maimed by 10,000 fish just hordes and hordes of fish that want me dead killing me badly. I rbink I deserve a little break, something to unwind 😊 *brainshifts back into my Inkling and clocks into Grizzco's*

#splatoon #side order #I FINALLY STARTED PLAYING IT LMFAOOOO listen. i do things on my own time.#i think i do have to do crop rotations every now and again unfortunately like i wanted to draw #but i think i needed. Different Activity #MAN I'M SO SAD I MISSED OUT ON SPLATOON 2 pearl and marina are soooooo 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺#i feel like i'm missing SO MUCH LORE HERE TOO LIKE. fully putting myself in eight's shoes #i Vaguely know The Lore all second hand. going into it i did want to honor eight. i made a v cute eight #man it is wild going into it without the full context of the octo expansion though LMFAOO #poor eight........ endless horrors ......... always in some Situation........#SAD. well at least we have gay rights and they/them pronouns 👍

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fadefromthelight · 9 months

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Happy Eight-Six day to my favorite Eight-Six driver <3

#i did not think i was going to finish this in time but here we are!#i'm low key obsessed with wataru and it's totally not a problem what so ever lol #and as always click for better quality #initial d #wataru akiyama #fan art #my art #faded art #wataru <3 #also i know the eight-six day is also in june but i forgot then #but i will take any excuse to draw wataru we need more wataru fanart

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letmetellyouaboutmyfeels · 1 year

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That's so weird because my reaction to S4 finale is it was the moment that convinced me Buddie was going to be endgame. Now two seasons later and we could be heading back to that same ending for the season depending on the events of the finale leaves me doubting things ngl. The only things I'm clinging on to are the couch theory, Eddie saying that relationships with people you meet at a rescue never works, and the fact that we're being introduced to these women so late in the season. It just seems like the writers even know they're giving this the most superficial things so that they can fix what they did in early S7.

To put it bluntly it just sucks that you know if this was gonna be the final 2 episodes that instead of going towards a story they've been telling since S2 they decide to put Buck and Eddie with women we don't even know their last name or anything about them. But they got renewed and will be moving to ABC so they can do the story they wanted to tell and I imagine these women will be kicked to the curb early in S7.

Okay, I'm gonna be real honest with you. I've seen that you've sent asks to a few of my friends, all generally saying the same thing. So to see you send me this ask makes me feel like you don't really want to have a discussion and aren't looking for actual support or positivity, you just want to keep being upset and tell people until someone agrees with you and tells you that your opinion that the writers made a shitty choice etc is valid.

So, to repeat a few things my friends have said:

They have not been doing Buddie since season two. I don't know why people persist on claiming this. Buddie was never the original plan. They did not decide to have Eddie get with Buck in season two. In fact in season two they seemed kinda unsure what to do with Eddie since he wouldn't be with Maddie any longer, but they still wanted the character, and Ryan, on the show. For my money, they started exploring the possibility of Buddie and discussing it seriously in season three, and season four was when they locked that in.

Now, I don't know about you, since you're a stranger on the internet, but to me, as a writer, it is a much, much better choice for them to have taken the risk rather than cram Buddie together, for a few reasons.

One: They cannot walk it back once Buddie is together. You're telling me you wanted them to sacrifice their story's integrity to give us a rushed unsatisfying get-together? Get out of my house. Watching television is, inherently, a gamble because it means you might get your stories unfulfilled. If you can't take that risk, then leave the casino. I am willing to risk it because I want a truly satisfying get-together, not something that was rushed and therefore isn't worthy of the delicious slow burn they're building.

Two: How many times do I have to scream at everyone to consider the behind the scenes issues before people start actually listening to me? Oh, forever? Because everyone is operating in bad faith and nobody wants to actually listen? Good to know. This will be the last I say on the matter.

We do not know what behind the scenes was going on in addition to the cancellation. What if certain Fox executives weren't supportive of Buddie? You're telling me that the writers and cast and crew should have, right when they'll need new jobs, guaranteed that their last employers will talk shit about them for disobeying orders and putting two characters together that they were told not to put together?

This is purely conjecture on my part, but I have seen time after time in fandom certain cast members and certain crew members and certain writers want a ship to become canon, and others not, and I have seen the way that back and forth played out, and guess fucking what? NOBODY WANTS TO LOSE THEIR FUCKING JOB. NOBODY WANTS TO BE PREVENTED FROM HAVING ANOTHER JOB.

Now, again, that's pure conjecture, but Fox really hasn't treated OG well for a while in terms of renewal, marketing, etc. And I have never, EVER, seen a show snapped up by another network so quickly. It's always "we got cancelled!" and then a few days or weeks later it's "we were saved by another network!" ABC was ON it. This gives me hope for a lot of things, like perhaps a 22 episode season. But given Fox's lack of promotion and appreciation for OG, it wouldn't surprise me if the cast and crew wanted Buddie and some people in the network didn't, and that is why we've been delayed on Buddie going canon. And while YOU may cry viva la revolution, it's much easier to have your principles when you've got a belly full, and while it may suck creatively there is no reason to piss off your bosses right when you need them to write you a recommendation for a new job because your show got cancelled - and while I'm sure they were hopeful, given the cast's social media I do not think anyone knew until it was publicly announced that they had, indeed, been saved and gotten another season.

My point is, this is just one theory I'm pulling out of a hat like a rabbit. We do not know what other BTS stuff is going on that made them choose to delay Buddie until season seven.

Three: To go back to point one, I do not think you've seen the reactions when a ship goes canon poorly. I was there, Gandalf. I was there the day that Booth and Bones got together. I was in the trenches. It soured SO many people, including me, on the show. To quote MBMBAM: YOU DIDN'T STICK THE LANDING! YOU JUST FLIPPED IN THE AIR FOR TWENTY MINUTES!!!

Sticking the landing when getting a ship together is possibly the most important moment in the couple's story. You cannot fuck up that landing. The writers chose to take the chance on it never happening in order to stick the landing the way they wanted. If that pisses you off, FINE. But stop coming into our inboxes to say the same thing over and over again about it, because we do not agree and we are never going to agree. We are at an impasse.

Now, to move onto some other points, WHY IS EVERYONE CONVINCED THAT EDDIE WILL STILL BE WITH SOMEONE WHEN THE SEASON ENDS!? WHEN DID WE DECIDE THIS!? He could be! But holy shit he could just go on one date with her that fizzles out! We have no clue! If someone in this fandom can see into the future and knows for sure this is going to happen then give me the winning lotto numbers right this second!!! Give them to me!!!! I need to fund my world domination campaign!!!

And finally, I feel like you've answered your own concerns, here. Given that you have sent similar asks to my friends, I don't think you're actually interested in allaying those concerns, because you keep answering your own questions and repeating yourself ad naseum. I could be wrong. Again, I don't know you. But this sure seems to be the case given that you're saying to me similar stuff you've said to my friends in asks they've already answered.

But to look at your own ask, you just said why we shouldn't be worried. "It seems like the writers even know..." YES. YES, THEY DO KNOW. I would love to know who the hell decided that television shows are made by the Television Fairy who creeps into the studio at night and waves her magic wand to create all the good stuff we see on our screens while the writers sit around with their thumbs up their asses.

Let's imagine you are a showrunner and you are going into the second half of your season, and you learn that it is extremely likely this season is actually your last. You guys start negotiating quietly with other networks to move the show, while hoping against hope this is not, indeed, the end. But this means you now have, what, nine episodes? To put all your characters in a place that is, if not ideal, at least somewhat positive for your audience?

You can't start any too-major arcs. You can't end on too bad of an emotional cliffhanger. This means some things will wrap up faster. Other things will get pushed forward. And some things have to be delayed, because they might never happen, and you can't give people a third or a half of an arc. Which means that you're going to be throwing in some filler for those characters instead, and doing things differently than how you might have wanted.

I do not know how many times I have to explain this, but television is not fanfiction. When I sit down to write a fic, there's not a damn person in the world who can tell me what to do. I write the story that I want, and if someone doesn't like it, they can hit the bricks.

Television is not like that. Television is one of the biggest group projects there is. Picture the worst group project you had to do in school and then times it by ten. Welcome to the television and film industry. The fact that any film or show, even the truly awful ones, gets made is nothing short of a miracle given all the people involved and all the ways the ball can be dropped. As a show runner, you are answering to multiple executives, to the creators, to the executive producers, to your own writers' room, and to the fans. You are trying to balance what everyone tells you to do, what the fans want you to do, and what you and your (hopefully trusted) writing team want and plan to do. I could never be a show runner and while there are quite a few with whom I've got bones to pick, I cannot deny that they all do a job I would never, ever be capable of pulling off. I'd quit on day three.

So, yeah, they gave Buck a temporary girlfriend as filler, to kinda cap off his current arc if this was the end, or to provide more layers to his full arc if they got another season. If you don't like that, then that's okay. Nobody is telling you to like it. When you come into someone's inbox like this, the assumption is that you're looking to be reassured, and so that's why you're getting the responses that you are. The previous people who've answered you have been trying to reassure you and allay the concerns you seem to have.

But it seems to me like you want a more full conversation, and possibly, that you just want to rant and vent. That's fine, but find a friend for that. Join a discord server. Because when you send the same stuff over and over again to different people, all of whom give you basically the same reply, it just makes you look like a very obstinate stick in the mud who wants everyone else to join them in being upset, and people don't much like having the same conversation multiple times, or being pushed into being upset when they're not.

You might just have to agree to disagree, and move on. Find other ways to get this out of your system, because my inbox, and the inboxes of others, is not the place for your venting in circles.

Now, in spite of my firm tone, I hope you will believe me when I say that I hope you're taking care of yourself, and that you are staying safe in this scary world, and that you have a good rest of your day.

#mads answers things #pedropascale #I'm closing my inbox guys I refuse to discuss this any further #genuinely I mean this with all sincerity I think some of you need to go into the Supernatural fandom and learn about the backstage drama #because that was a BIG lesson for me as a fan in how BTS can seriously affect what you see on screen #and no I do not mean this in a shipper way #I mean this in a 'what the hell was going on during seasons six through eight' kind of way #for example all the jokes you're seeing about 'what happened last time we had a writer's strike'?#THAT'S SUPERNATURAL #DEAN WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO GO TO HELL #SAM WAS SUPPOSED TO LEAN INTO HIS DEMON POWERS AND EMBRACE THEM IN ORDER TO SAVE DEAN'S SOUL #BUT THE WRITER'S STRIKE HIT AND THEY SAID SHIT WE'RE OUTTA TIME UM. GUESS YOU'RE GOING TO HELL!!!#and then they had to GET HIM OUT OF HELL #so Sera Gamble (YUP IT WAS HER DON'T GET ME STARTED OR WE'LL BE HERE ALL DAY)#said hey what if we actually DID have angels #(previously angels were not supposed to exist. hunters were God's agents on earth. it was demons vs hunters. no angels.)#and one of those angels was sent to rescue Dean? since Heaven would be invested in this too?#(I don't know if they already had the Dean-as-Michael idea or if that came up along with the angels idea)#and so Sera Gamble created the angel Castiel #who saved the Righteous Man from Hell #AND SHOCKWAVES WERE SENT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE POP CULTURE SPHERE #AND AN ENTIRE GENERATION OF FANDOM WAS AFFECTED BY THIS DECISION IN A DOMINO EFFECT ARGUABLY NOT SEEN SINCE AMOK TIME #I know we like the idea of our stories existing in a vacuum separate from the real world #and that our stories are told the way the writers want to tell them regardless of all else #but that is unfortunately not how it works when the story you're telling #requires millions of dollars and the involvement of dozens if not hundreds of people #we have GOT to give our creative teams some fucking grace for the realities of how their jobs operate #we must we must we must

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