what do you think lily's flaws were likely to have been? I hear so many people complain about her being a "Mary Sue" and I feel like it's true that the narrative doesn't really give us problems with her character in the way that it does for James/the other marauders.
Love this question!! I actually think we do see some of Lily's flaws in the narrative, they're just not quite as obvious (or grievous) as Sev's or James's.
In her conversations with Sev in the Prince's Tale, we see that she's willing to overlook pretty unforgivable behaviour because of her friendship with/loyalty towards Sev. He's friends with Mulciber and Avery, he calls the attack on Mary 'a laugh'. In the post-SWM conversation, she displays awareness that Sev calls other people 'mudblood'. Sure, she's not okay with it, but she still tolerates it; it's not until this actively affects her that she decides to end the friendship. I read this as a mixture of naïveté but also just willing blindness. She knows better deep down, but chooses to ignore it because of her love for Sev.
Another thing Lily-haters tend to harp on is her defending James, Sev's bully, to him in this conversation. And I do somewhat agree (although I think it's ridiculous to hold this as worse than everything Sev does to her) but I think it's another sign of her willingness to overlook certain behaviours that she shouldn't. She wants to believe that there's good in everyone because that's easier than facing reality. I don't read this line as 'you should forgive James for everything', I read it more as 'why can't everyone get along because that would be easier than dealing with conflict'. In some ways she's right, because there is good in both Sev and James-- it's somehow both her greatest strength and her greatest weakness. This blind trust is what gets her killed, it's what causes her so much pain in SWM, but it's also what saves her son in the end.
Another thing I think we see in SWM is her temper. Like I've said I think Harry gets his anger issues from Lily rather than from James, and I think she's impulsive, reckless, quick to anger. She leads with her heart. It would have been more rational to get a teacher but she dives into the confrontation personally. She insults both James and Sev pretty viciously in this scene (totally deserved, but still). Her giant squid rant is not some well thought out moral indictment of James's character or actions but an emotional response, a personal attack borne of anger. It's very similar to Harry's numerous all caps rages throughout OotP in which he takes out his anger on the people around him.
When thinking about Lily I think it's fair to extrapolate from Harry's character, because they're meant to be similar. Thematically, DH is largely about Harry realising that he's much more like Lily than he realised. Dumbledore says he was counting on Hermione to slow Harry down: Harry represents the intuitive approach, Hermione the logical. Too much reliance on intuition can't save the day, but neither can too much reliance on logic. It's about balance. Sev is the Hermione to Lily-- his learned ability to put aside his emotional needs and impulses for the greater good is ultimately how Lily protects her son through him.
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Sorry someone dragged you into their mess. Fans are always rabid over their guy faves and it's so annoying. The lesbian side of the fandom is at so much peace, just shipping all the gals together and playing with them like barbie dolls. Haven't seen one argument over there.
im not surprised..... im glad we're all aware the issue is Man Enjoyers who cannot be normal about men
(and also people who think you can only play the game one way and if you divert from that at all you deserve execution)
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yap session up ahead (its about the gachas)
i have to save for the haruka 4* in april and then there are TWO haruka four*s in may with one day trip and the rerun of tied by painful hope
tied by painful hope is limited but the other two are event gachas so if i pull other times they wont show up asdjghfahsd so now i have to grind for the haruka cardsa djfhajsdhga I REALLY REALLY WANT THE BEYOND THE ADVANCING WHEELS ONE BECAUSE SHE LOOKS SO PRETTY IN IT??
(page break cuz there is a LOT MORE)
LIKE HELLO???? i also kinda want the bon voyage one
THESE HAS COSTUMES TOO ARE YOU KDDING ME OH MY IM GOING TO EXPLODE
I ALSO REALLY REALLY WANT TIED BY PAINFUL HOPE BECAUSE I REALLY REALLY WANT THE SHORT HAIRED HARUKA CARD???
what i think ill do is pull for the one on april til i get the card then grind for the two in may
based on how much i have by the time the gacha comes out ill pull a specific amount and then stop then grind more and towards the end of the bon voyage event ill analyze how much i have and how much i should pull
and then ill spend the rest on the tied by painful hopes card
i also kind of want to pull for the mafuyu kitty event cuz its ALSO limited but i may just wait for next year to pull if i get all the haruka cards
there is ALSO an evillious chronicles rerun in may so hopefully that doesnt tempt me to make a detour
I ALSO MIGHT PULL FOR THE HONAKANA WEDDING EVENT BECAUSE THOSE CARDS ARE SO PRETTY?? HELLO??
i might get tempted to pull for the crying mafuyu card in july
and then ill grind for all three haruka bday cards in october because you know what happened LAST OCTOBER??? 70+ PULLS AND NOTHING I WILL NOT LOSE THIS TIME. I REFUSE. I ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO LOSE TO THE HARUKA KIRITANI BIRTHDAY CARD THIS YEAR
I WILL GET THE SHINY BIRTHDAY CARD
and then i might pull for darkness fiesta mafuyu on the rerun but thats aside the point
and then right after that they have the niigo world link gacha... AND THEN THE SANRIO CARDS??? AJHFDJASHFA THEY HAVE A RERUN FOR FLY TO THE FUTURE IN DECEMBER BUT I ALREADY HAVE THAT CARD!!!! IT ONLY TOOK LIKE FOURTY PULLS (which isnt that bad)
wait i think im missing cards
THERES THE SPORTS EVENT
ughh its in september so i wont have as much saved for the bday cards as i want BUT it IS permenant gacha so ill probably do controlled pulls
and then obviouslt theres brand new style with the new fits but thats just two stars
THERES *TWo* IN OCTOBBER ARE YOU KIDDING ME I CANT
and then theres valentines day card and the one from the minori event that just happened
hoping haruka comes home in the first few pulls so i can pull for other characters too
i honestly just really want the overly luxguriys night the IF card and the bday cards the most (AKA THE LIMITED ONES)
oh yea and the new years one (theres a rerun for it in jan) SIGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
btw im basing all of this off the japanese gacha schedule so if they change it when doingi things on en i will explode
honestly im hoping i dont get too tempted to pull for other cards from characters i really like but i only really like two characters to want to pull for (being haruka, duh, and mafuyu) hOWEVER i may also go for wondersho world links cuz MAN those are so cool
I LOVE PLAYING CARDS SYMBOLISM
OMG WAIT the card where she (hrk) broke the door handle is also a perment card so i dotn ahve to worry abt that TOO much WAIT AND SO AS WELL AS THE UPCOMING TWO CARDS?? WAIT WHY IS THE WIKI CONTRADICTING ITSELF?? anyways i NEED the birthday cards
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