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enderwoah · 2 years

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tommy could have made wilbur stay

tommy could have made him stay but tommy didnt try because wilbur said that leaving is what he wants to do and tommy doesnt want to keep wilbur where he doesnt want to be (which by extension means wilbur doesnt want to be with him) so he's not going to force it upon him but he couldve and him letting wilbur leave was one of the most selfless things i have seen anyone ever do on that server because HE COULD HAVE MADE WILBUR STAY DO YOU SEE THE VISION.

tommy waited until wilbur was completely out of earshot to just break down fucking sobbing because there is no way in HELL that he wanted to let wilbur go there but tommy is just too kind of a person he's too selfless he cares too much and if wilbur staying wasn't in wilbur's best interest then similarly. there was no way in hell he was going to make wilbur stay. even if he couldve. because he definitely couldve. he's wilbur's little brother if he really wanted to dig his feet into the sand and beg wilbur to stay and scream all the reasons as to why this is a terrible idea and why he can't believe that he's trying to leave tommy after all this. he could've. and wilbur would've listened, given enough time.

fucking time. thats really all tommy needed to do. stall. because wilbur was doing The Thing. you know what i mean. the thing where you really really really dont want to fucking do this one thing so you set a time limit/time frame for it to just force yourself into it. but as soon as that timeframe passes for whatever reason you just slump and go "welp guess i cant do it anymore." wilbur made it a point to say that he showed up on the dsmp while it was storming, didnt he? he said at least once that he HAS to go before it stops raining or else...?

or else what. there was no reason. it was just his little "i need to do this" timeframe. do you see my vision. tommy just needed to wait for the storm to pass. the sun was rising, it was lightening up, you could see wilbur getting more and more anxious to leave, and if tommy just tugged on his coat and pleaded with him to stay for a little bit longer, the storm would have passed, wilbur's timeframe would have ended, and most likely all of his fucking fight to leave would have let up.

but tommy didn't. he didn't even let wilbur see how fucking upset he was. if wilbur really did lah-di-fucking-disappear the last thing he saw was tommy laughing through his tears, stupidly repeating how he was going to "fucking utah," but as soon as wilbur was gone those gut-wrenching sobs of absolute fucking grief were let out. because tommy was too kind to make him stay. too selfless to grab his coat and weep and beg because he knows that wilbur would have listened. jesus christ. Jesus Christ.

#you dont understand #crimeboys are the only EVER #i cried multiple times after the stream ended while talking with me friends #and not a single time was because of c!wilbur #this ending was so mean #it was so foul #dream smp #dsmp #dream smp spoilers #wilbur soot #tommyinnit #i hate this #i hate it here #im so mad #(in a good way the stream was good)

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lovelyisthedawn · 2 years

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tell me what you want me to say

fandom: dream smp word count: 1,799 relationship: wilbur soot & tommyinnit

Tommy immediately falls into step just a few paces behind him.

Wilbur stops short. “You don’t have to follow me anymore, Tommy.”

(In which Tommy confronts Wilbur about what happened in the prison with Dream and the discs. Takes place directly after Wilbur’s 6/6/22 stream ‘inconsolable differences.’)

read it on ao3 here!

#there has been so much discourse about this stream but as ever i just wanted to write them having a discussion about what happened (tm)#which. cwilbur fucked up. and i wanted ctommy to go off a little about it. so that's what i wrote #still pov wilbur though because i love him the most #dream smp #mcyt #dream smp fanfic #my writing #mine #my fic #dsmp #dsmp fanfic #tell me what you want me to say #wilbur soot #tommyinnit #crimeboys

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tobi-smp · 6 months

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absolutely nobody wants to see me rant about the end of the dream smp for one millionth time in october 2023, but the anniversary has people talking on my dash so now I'm infected with one of the same 4 thoughts I always have about the dream smp

obviously there is a Very Very large number of reasons that people have a complicated relationship with the dream smp, both in universe and out. and the worst for me are the Obvious out of universe reasons that don't need to be repeated here.

but the cake for In Universe reasons is definitely still the crimeboys ending. it was the final nail in the coffin for me back when I hadn't realized that the coffin had any more nails it could take in the first place, and it's a big part of why the parts of the series that I Do very much so enjoy are very often painful to look back on.

and this isn't because wilbur is a bad writer or a bad actor (or tommy for that matter), even at the time I had Really enjoyed the lead up to the end, even and Especially in that final stream sending wilbur off.

I had my issues of course, I haven't exactly been quiet about that, but in retrospect I Understand the circumstances much better and respect wilbur's choice to get out of there as cleanly as possible.

we still don't know Exactly what was happening behind the scenes, including and Especially with dream, but we Do know full well that dream stopped interacting with the entire rest of the server leaving countless story lines (that he'd Intentionally made himself integral to) left to dry with no way to move forwards while they waited for interaction that would never ever come.

wilbur's choice to move forwards with his send off of his character on his own terms, even with and especially Because of the clear scheduling issues, was the smartest decision he could have made considering the circumstances. I would very much so argue that his character is the Only One that got sent off with any amount of dignity largely Because he stopped playing dream's little game. and I do have to wonder if wilbur escaping the narrative wasn't inspired more by the real life circumstances at the time.

but no matter how satisfying I find it, no matter how much Good I see in it, no matter how much I respect and agree with the choice to do it, I cannot think about wilbur's ending without a Deep ache.

and it is for one single reason

he left tommy behind on purpose, this time fully with the knowledge of the situation he was leaving him behind In.

the abandonment that characters like tommy, niki, and fundy felt after the 16th are ultimately understandable ways of dealing with grief, but weren't Fair to truly hold against wilbur. wilbur didn't Leave, he didn't make the decision to allow the people important to him to be hurt in his absence. he committed suicide because he was sad.

wilbur getting on that boat, truly Knowing what dream did to tommy in a way that only tommy and dream knew, and leaving tommy alone on that beach affected me in ways that nothing else on the server ever has. and that truly is not a good thing.

now, I Think that what was likely supposed to happen is that dream was Supposed to interact with tommy regularly after the prison escape, and that that was supposed to build up to Some natural conclusion. we don't know what that conclusion would have been, but it was certainly nothing like what we got. and meanwhile wilbur's final arc was supposed to progress along side it, building Up To the logsted stream and his full understanding of the abuse dream had done and the affect it had on tommy.

we Know that at one point tommy had spoken about having a soft ending with wilbur. and After wilbur's ending actually did happen he'd mentioned that he might cameo on the server from time to time. that sounds like a soft ending to me.

it makes thematic sense, it makes sense with the pieces we got leading up to the final stream, it makes sense with the characters. and it couldn't happen, because dream refused to move any plot forwards and tommy of all characters couldn't move on without dream. again, both Thematically and because of what was happening behind the scenes.

and this is. frustrating beyond reason. that the snot genuinely poisoned one of the best aspects of the entire server because he was actively killing it but still didn't want to let go.

you can call it speculation, and it is, but this is what I believe and will continue to believe until tommy or wilbur say otherwise.

and on paper I just want to be able to say that the things that I don't like about the ending are bad because dream forced them to be bad and therefore I can just pretend like they never happened and substitute canon's reality with my own (or at the very least excuse it for being the way that it is).

and I have tried to do that ! both in chewing on the ending on its own terms And in imagining many Many ways that it could have gone differently (an activity I'm quite fond of regardless of circumstance).

but it just !

in a completely biased and nevertheless Extremely Honest word, hurt my feelings.

I cannot stop thinking about how they Intentionally set up wilbur finding out about dream abusing tommy, Made Sure to cover every base so the audience Knows that wilbur knows that it was physical, mental, and emotional abuse, Knows that wilbur is fully aware that tommy almost committed suicide, and Knows that wilbur was Deeply Emotionally Affected By This Fact.

and then had him leave. had him Plan Possibly Months Ahead Of Time. had him try to sneak off, only telling tommy the truth when he caught him by surprise and forced it out of him.

tommy opened up to somebody about exile in real honest terms for the very first time, to one of the people that he trusted the most, and that person Chose to leave him trapped with that very abuser out to get him Even Though he understood the danger and cared about him very deeply.

he knew that tommy was in danger, he knew Why tommy was in danger, and him leaving tommy behind was pre-meditated.

and it's Painful not just because of what it implies about their relationship As A Whole (because it's impossible to accept this as true without it affecting how we look back on what came before), but because those same implications makes it Impossible to imagine their relationship having a future.

people tried to play it off like a Soft Ending, like wilbur was just going to get therapy and then come back and they were just gonna hug it out and have a nice healthy relationship. and to be fair to those people, none of us could have predicted that tommy was going to be bombed and then reincarnated with none of his memories. that was Not in my predictions for the next phase of his character arc.

but, shitty sequel bait ending that everyone who cares has disavowed aside (way aside, into a deep pit to never be seen again), if I were tommy I would feel unimaginably betrayed.

where they left off is Not a place to reconnect with a healthy relationship when they're ready, because This Was A Traumatizing Event In And Of Itself.

I don't have to prove this, c!tommy proved this himself when started holing up in his house and abusing potions of invisibility both because he feels completely and totally Unsafe walking anywhere on the server when people can see him And as a relapse back into potion addiction reminiscent of his addiction post-exile.

he was at his absolute lowest point, his abuser and murderer escaped from prison ready to torment him and everyone he cares about for Literally forever. he was Desperately trying to find any form of stability, Desperately trying to reach out to for anyone he could trust, and he Intentionally opened up to someone he Did trust completely once. someone who made him feel safe, someone he trusted with his entire life.

he opened up Because he wanted that relationship, Because he wanted wilbur in his life, Because wilbur had wanted Him in His life. he wanted to cross that gap between them. he was making himself vulnerable to Extend that trust To wilbur.

and wilbur stopped talking to him for months and then left.

that's not going to do good things to his mental health or stability. tommy was Already displayed active suicidal tendencies BEFORE dream broke out of prison.

if he'd managed to kill dream for good and the characters went about their lives tommy would have to let wilbur go. rationalizing what happened, justifying wilbur's decision, would not be healthy.

he can accept that wilbur made the right decision for Himself. he can accept that Wilbur needed to leave, that Wilbur needed time to himself.

but tommy clinging on to wilbur's memory, justifying that he was left for dead with his abuser On Purpose, would not be healthy.

tommy would Need to realize that what happened wasn't okay. there Is no going back to having a relationship with wilbur. wilbur was Allowed to make the choice he did, but it Was a choice.

I can't bare to think of the alternative. where tommy is abandoned, deeply damaged by that abandonment, has to face his abuser and murderer Without someone he'd once considered a brother, and then turn around and just answer wilbur's call the moment Wilbur decides he's ready to have a relationship again.

that would just. be sad. genuinely awful.

and I can't let that go. the decisions they made were Sensible, I can see how it was necessary for wilbur to Have a proper send off when he did. there's no Satisfying way to re-imagine this series of events without it not Being the end.

but it tried to depict itself As a soft ending, As the characters having a future together, when it simply is not. if wilbur escaped the narrative then he left the people he cared about to be victims of the narrative Knowingly.

and it's frustrating Because I can see how it'd happen by accident. How the implications would be both meticulously set up and gone completely unseen.

but for my money, if I were to fix it on its own terms. with no additional screen time after, no change in the streams leading up to the end, and the understanding that tommy's story could not end at this point by necessity (the same restrictions that they had at the time)

I would have wilbur ask tommy to come with him. I'd have the reveal be that wilbur wanted to take tommy with him The Entire Time but knew that tommy was stubborn and attached to the server. but the moment he understood Exactly How Bad It Was he knew he needed to get them out of there Now.

so he did his best to hold dream off for now, and Immediately went to work setting up their escape (we don't need to understand How the portal to utah works, just that it took some time to set up).

it would recontextualize some of their earlier interactions, it would recontextualize his absence after the logsted stream, and it would recontextualize why wilbur didn't tell him until now.

and of course, because tommy has to stay (and because tommy is tommy) he refuses. he refuses not because he doesn't Want to go with wilbur (he wants to be with him more than anything, he wants to feel safe more than anything). but because he can't abandon the people on the server, because he can't let go until he knows dream is gone, because he will never ever feel safe until dream is dead.

and it can be a big dramatic blow out that Ends with that quiet awkward understanding, not with the characters being emotionally in sync but Knowing that this is how this moment has to play out. that same melancholy, that same understand that a choice is being made that can't go back, But It's Mutual.

It's Mutual And Born From Love.

because wilbur Wanted to save tommy, because tommy Wanted wilbur to stay, because they both understand why things aren't happening that way.

and they'll still be Hurt after. their relationship will still be impacted. this will still be something to Work Through rather than the magic soft fix that will make their relationship healthy and fluffy again.

but it's Fixable. if tommy survives there's a relationship still in tact to build on. there's a future where they both trust each other again one day, to find comfort and stability in each other. to put in the Work to build a life once the horror finally ends.

of course, if I had a say a lot more than this would've been changed. but it's a thought that plagues me because of how plausibly it Could have been what we'd gotten. because it would have worked without changing anything and it still would have hurt me at the time but it would have been the Good hurt. not a goodbye forever but goodbye until I can see you again. Goodbye And I Love You.

(at least until tommy got exploded with a bomb and forgot that wilbur existed. yippie)

#discourse #neg #been ages since I've used that #dream smp #dsmp #wilbur soot #tommyinnit #I'm not tagging the snot because I hate him

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clingyduoapologist · 1 year

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Sorry but I don’t think I’ll ever be able to get over the arginnit fiasco. You’re saying that Tommy, completely independently, went “y’know what would go perfect with this lighthearted pumpkin carving stream? A bit where I get locked out of the house and scream at my friends before disappearing and returning with mud and twigs stuck in my hair and a haunting expression on my face :D” and then just… Did that?? DAYS after Wilbur announced an arg?

And like, that on its own is weird, but instead of clearing anything up, this motherfucker decides to double down and deliberately string along his fans with a series of increasingly bizarre bits including such hits as: pretending to not know what an arg is, the infamous crimeboys table fiasco, a seemingly omniscient malevolent landlord, and a fucking demon possessed doll.

All because, in his own words, this guy wanted to study his fan base like lab rats and see how far he could push the arg theory before it snapped.

Tommyinnit, ladies and gents

#I fucking hate my streamer so fucking much #he’s given us more analog horror content than ranboo has 😭😭😭#Tommyinnit #arginnit

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proudfreakmetarusonniku · 5 months

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something I’ve been thinking about with wilburs ending.

i get that him leaving the smp was essential to his mental health, and i get this is a problem cc!wilbur couldn’t really solve because cc!dream refused to ever let his character take a fucking L, but him just Leaving his brother with the sadistic abuser he knew tortured him into nearly committing suicide, like, Obviously Does Not Work. again, not cc!Wilbur’s fault, but it’s a massive issue with the end of his storyline because it makes Wilbur the character look completely careless for leaving someone in a dangerous situation when we're given No indication he couldn’t do anything to help, we're given No indication he couldn’t have taken tommy with him and even if they split up immediately from there had his brother in a safer and better place with No extra effort on his part. obviously no one is Owed help but leaving an abused teenager in a situation where he is vulnerable when there’s no obvious reason that they can’t provide help easily makes him look like an idiot at best and like he Doesn’t Give A Shit about his Literal Brother at worst.

and what bothers me about it is that there feels like a simple fix playing on the Literal Prior Crimeboys stream. and that's the idea that Wilbur thinks that Dream is after Him and not Tommy because he destroyed the discs.

which makes the fact he didn’t even Offer tommy an escape if he had one the whole time make sense! he thinks tommy is Safer in the smp because he thinks that his abuser will leave. he thinks that by leaving Quickly and without letting tommy know where he is, even if it hurts him, he's making sure he can never be hurt again by dream. he Is trying to protect his brother, but he’s tragically gotten the whole situation Completely Wrong. and that’s sad, but it feels logical!

and i'm not saying wilbur being too afraid to say goodbye to tommy is Bad on its own, that’s fine, that’s not the part i think needs this. it’s that Wilbur apparently had a Safe Place he could go to this whole time and he didn’t ever think of even offering his little brother- who he Knows was abused so badly he nearly killed himself- the opportunity to go there. I’m not saying they should have been Together, i'm saying it seems bizarrely callous to Leave an abuse victim in a dangerous situation when you have a seemingly Easy way to get them out. and idk. maybe that’s what they were going for, but the finale fucked it up. wouldn’t be suprised. but it still bugs me.

(and I’m not even Entertaining the idea of utah being death because I refuse to have half the fucking finales in this series romanticise the shit out of suicide, either as an Escape from the Narrative or a Way to find Peace, because that’s genuinely vile shit)

#Dream smp #dsmp critical #A bit #i am not mad at Wilbur for this at all btw I think it’s mostly the finale being shite that fucked things up #but still. it just makes everything so awkward #abuse tw

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firesnap · 2 years

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I love talking about Wilbur's flaws. I love talking about how he absolutely fucked up that prison confrontation. I love talking about how Ho16 absolutely foreshadowed/set up Wilbur doing this Tommy.

My thing is everyone is talking about parts of it that I don't find interesting. Wilbur doing something Tommy flat out doesn't want to do, and acting like he's being strong by making it happen, is pretty typical of their relationship. I'm not saying it wasn't a fucked up things to do. It absolutely was and pretty much something I'd expect from him. Wilbur still thinks he's the man who comes up with plans and helps Tommy get out of shit -- even if that's not how Tommy sees him anymore.

Wilbur still thinks their relationship is "if you're scared we'll do it together." Him pushing through with his plan just feels like it wasn't him treating Tommy like Tommy wasn't important, but instead doing what he thought Tommy always wanted from him -- be the protector and the problem solver. It's the same behavior we saw from him with Tubbo, but this time it was fueled by anger and grief. The issue is, again, Wilbur went in guns blazing with zero idea of how truly fucked up the Dream and Tommy situation is. The issue is, again, that Wilbur just assumed what he was doing was right without asking Tommy if that's what Tommy wanted. Tommy just wanted him to listen and stay.

And all this is being talked about to death and I'm just repeating things.

My thing is that I'd rather talk about the truly fucked up shit the stream set up and has been setting up. They talked about suicide, repeatedly, throughout that stream. They focused on talking about how there has to be other choices -- specifically running away -- multiple times. Suicide is a constant theme that comes back over and over and leads to Tommy admitting he had wanted to die too.

And then Wilbur flew in the face of everything they'd talked about by trying to turn Tommy's issues into a reason for him to die. He took something that was about Tommy and made it about Wilbur's lack of regard for his own life. He did it in front of Tommy and put at Tommy's feet both that some part of Wilbur is still very much wanting to die and that Wilbur would be willing to die for Tommy. Tommy's frightened because Wilbur is unpredictable and hard to read and, worse, Wilbur doesn't even realize that he's essentially putting Tommy in Pogtopia 2.0. He watches Wilbur lie, he watches Wilbur rush off unequipped and unarmored, he watches Wilbur yell that he's fine with it all ending and he has to just play witness. Again.

Like, a huge part of CrimeBoys have never actually left Pogtopia and just repeats the old patterns again and again and I wonder if they'll ever address that.

#dsmp babbling

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bonesandthebees · 2 years

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honestly was that stream perfect? no, there were a lot of pacing issues and some ooc moments especially with the latter half. but we got the exile talk with confirmation of how dark it was, and cwilbur not only realized the depth of how bad exile was, but he immediately switched to wanting to protect his brother and get revenge for what cdream did to him and tbh that's all i ever wanted so like i'm satisfied

also we got c!crimeboys dancing together and literally nothing is ever gonna top that i'm imprinting that into my BRAIN

#dream smp #dsmp spoilers #dsmp #c!wilbur #c!crimeboys #c!tommy

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cupcraft · 1 year

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Rust this rust that. I'll always be thinking about Gunk and Ishmael from the raft stream

The day we grt another crimeboys stream like raft would be the best day ever

#tea.cakes #ask #cup.crimeboys

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strangleetomz · 2 years

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hello fizz! how's your day been?

Anywho- could you possibly do number 23 with lee!wilbur with either ler!techno or ler!tommy? Have an amazing day/evening!

- Shark Anon 🦈

did this with cc!wil & tommy bc im better at writing cc’s then i am c’s hope thats alright

and theres a read more option bc its a bit longer than the others

“Nothing tickles me.” Wilbur said flatly to the camera, Tommy right by his side. The crimeboys were filming an IRL you laugh you lose, and it was the start of the stream.

Tommy gave Wilbur a knowing look, he knew that wasn’t true.. in both the sense of he’ll laugh at anything and that he’s crazy fucking ticklish.

“Not true,” Tommy muttered with a light smile, but Wilbur and chat heard it nonetheless. Wilbur cocked an eyebrow.

“Excuse me?” Wilbur questioned. What was Tommy getting at?

“I said,” Tommy spoke up, “not true.” Now Wilbur was really confused, and chat was flying by with a bunch of “?????”’s, “HUH?”’s, and “WHAT”’s.

“Has the challenge started?” Tommy asked, raising Wilbur’s confusio and now starting his nervousness.

“Yes, why..?” Wilbur suddenly regretted answering that question, as for as soon as he did, Tommy pounced onto him and began tickling the ever living shit out of him.

“ACK- TOMMY NOHOHO!” Wilbur cackled, trying to pry off Tommy’s tickly fingers that were mercilessly scritching up and down his sides.

“You know, Wil, for this to be a you laugh you lose, you’re doing an awful lot of laughing,” Tommy grinned evilly, switching to wiggling his fingers between the spaces of his ribs. Wilbur squealed.

“TOHOHOHOMMYHEHEH! NAHAHA NOHOHOT THEHEHERE PLEHEHEASE!”

Chat was flying.

AAWWWWW

TICKLISHBUR!

GET HIM TOMMY

CLIP

THEYRE BROTHERS YOUR HONOR

TOMMY DONT KILL YOUR BROTHER

Tommy giggled along with his older brothers cackling, not keeping up with the tickling for too much longer. However he knew the clips were already circling twitter by now.

“Yohohou.. are suhuch a dihick..” Wilbur panted, before realizing that all just happened infront of chat.

“Wait.. DID YOU SERIOUSLY JUST TICKLE ME TO BITS INFRONT OF 25,000 PEOPLE!?” Wilbur yelled, and Tommy began cackling.

Let’s just saw Wilbur avoided all social medias for the next 3 days after that stream.

#fizzthelee ficlets #lee!wilbur #ler!tommy #mcyt tickle #crimeboys

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sajdd · 2 years

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will crimeboys ever stream together again. or am i just living a lie. am i dreaming of a false reality. living with false hopes.

#where the fuck are they

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stellocchia · 2 years

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I know you haven't done it in a while but do you have any fanfics you've read recently that you would recommend?

Oh, I do!

So, first of all I've been reading The Oath of Hippocrates by Melatonin_High which, I gotta say, I'm really really enjoying.

It's a still ongoing Superhero AU where Tommy is an overworked child medic, the rest of SBI are villains (and Wilbur especially is Concerned Big Bro™) while Tubbo and Ranboo are both vigilantes I think. I'm 9 chapters in at the moment, so I haven't caught up with it yet, but yeah, pretty damn cool.

Also, My Wingless Prince by FractalFiction was another cute one. It's a oneshot of basically just Wilbur adopting Tommy. Very cute. Though I'm especially biased because I adore dadbur so...

Then, right after the latest stream I read best served cold by hoodienanami which was honestly perfect for the mood.

Basically, you know Wilbur's hallucination of beating the ever-loving crap out of Dream? This is basically that but if it actually happened.

I've also read Extension by Jk_Kat again, and actually finished it this time. No idea why I dropped it the first time around.

In it basically, Tommy is a blind airbending badass and he gets himself adopted by the rest of SBI. It's a good read and I know I recommended it in the past, but yeah! Deffo one to read.

Then there was Rule of the Beasts by RadioSilencer which I also really liked. The premise is that, basically, Dream hands Tommy over to the Antarctic Empire to avoid a war against them? It's nice, and I've really liked the interactions between Tommy and the rest of SBI so far.

If you find what you're looking for - be sure to send a postcard by BialyLis Then, of course, I can't not suggest this. It's the third part of my favorite Fostercare AU series I'm ready now. It's just... it's so good man. The whole series is top tier, and, of course, this installment is great too.

It's definitely a longer read to catch up with everything but it's so worth it. The characterization for all of SBI works so well, it's really really great.

And last of the dsmp ones I've read more recently is nocturnal animals by bonesandthebees (bonesandcacti). Which is a Vampire AU and it's so good.

Basically, Tommy's a vampire hunter and he finds one vampire that is too sad to kill and ends up making him reevaluate all of his morals. That vampire is Wilbur.

I have been consuming a huge amount of crimeboys content in case it wasn't obvious.

I have also been reading a ton of other fics, but they're mostly TOH. So like, dunno if you guys would be interested in that.

#anon ask #dream smp #fanfic recommendation

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bugflies00 · 2 years

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okay genuinely i have so many thoughts about this stream and idk if i have time to post them all but they are so overwhelmingly positive.

like i dont know how to phrase the fact that this is the most dream smp a stream has felt in months. dyou know what i mean?? like this genuinely felt like what the server is, what it used to be before everyone distanced themselves for a bit. it was the perfect balance of humour and stupid bits with raw emotions, it was ccrimeboys being goofy and protective and caring and dumb and sad and it was utterly perfect. like it’s them. it’s genuinely them im so fucking happy.

and the exile discussion like we have genuinely been waiting for that shit since 2020 its a year and a half and they did that fucking discussion and they blew it out of the park (i am Genuinely never recovering from tommy saying that sentence. saying, out loud, “this is where i went to kill myself.”) and cwilbur got metaphorically punched in the gut with the realisation that his idol did that to his brother, and of course he immediately turned around and dreamed of violence on dream because how could you possibly envision a world where wilbur does not care, first and foremost and above all else, about tommy? how can you?

and finally we’re getting the culmination of the suicidal ideation we’ve seen build up in cwilbur for months now, his self loathing and how it only increased when he saw what a man he used to revere did to his brother and how his first thought was to put himself on the line

and the parallels. oh my god the parallels im frothing at the mouth there were SO MANYYY. of course c!crime and their disastrous habit to threaten suicide to get cdream to do what they want (im clawing at the walls of my cage for that one), but also the beach party scene. the BEACH PARTY SCENE i am sobbing i am on the floor. last time tommy tried to hold a party he was still under cdream’s full control and no one showed up but dream and he was alone and depressed and suicidal and he thought no one loved him anymore. and now you have tommy, dancing and laughing with wilbur on that same fucking beach, joking that he’s holding that party again. like a second chance. like healing, almost. not really, because there’s still that plan of wilbur’s looming in the horizon, but a better shot at healing than he’s ever had in the past because he’s on that same fucking beach but wilbur is here.

and the DISCS FIASCO. c!crime and trust i would write an essay if i were a better analyst like genuinely . but TOMMY’S ACTING IM BLOWN AWAY EVERY TIME they are so incredible like ctommy was so close to tears there and i genuinely melted like this guy is just. holy fucking shit that was one of tommy’s best acting moment in my opinion. and DREAMMM fucking evil bitch as usual with his cheery voice talking about the prison lobby being his living room while ctommy’s a hair away from a full blown panic attack. Genuinely delightful. AND OBVIOUSLY WILBUR’S ACTING but i feel like this goes without saying

and the whole thing with the book. wilbur, proving over and over again how much of a fucking lie “i never cared about l’manberg” was. how much he loved that country. and once again proving all the lmanberg antis wrong Lmao get fucked losers it was always good at its core because it was the most tight knit community on that entire server. and c!crimeboys have always known that because they’re the ones who made it that way, that’s why they keep coming back to it. “independence or death” because they may have moved on from the country but they’re still the same people battling the same fucking prick in power, they’re still wilbur and tommy with nothing but an iron chestplate, a couple sticks and very little self preservation against the manipulative bastard that is dream with his power plays and mind games. that’s what it comes back to, at the end. and i fucking love that

this is perhaps my favourite lore stream since at least disc finale if not 2020. and goddamnit they did us right because of course they did it’s crimeboys and i always had faith in them

#mcyt #crimeboys #wilbur soot #tommyinnit #c!crimeboys #c!wilbur #c!tommy #alex.rambles.txt #tw suicide mention #JESUS i typed that whole thing in a frenzy i just blacked out and didnt emerge apart from checking quotes

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miceeonvenus · 2 years

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My insane ramblings from the Wilbur stream:

HOLY CRAP C!TOMMY THAT'S C!TOMMY IT'S CRIMEBOYS TIME

PFFFF TOMMY UNDER THE WATER

Tommy just refuses to talk about Fundy's suicide hmmmmmmmm wonder if this reminds him of something

"Uhhh we went on that holiday to the beach." "No." DO YOU HEAR ME SCREAMING

theyre continuing to talk about it hslsjldhlfshlkhd

LOGSTEDSHIRE THEY NAME DROPPED LOGSTEDSHIRE

IS THIS THE TOMMY APOLOGY STREAM ARE WE GETTING THE TOMMY APOLOGY STREAM ARE WE GOING TO LOGSTEDSHIRE???????

HE DOESN"T WANT TO TELL HIM TUBBO EXILED HIM

hes determined it was a holiday ;-;

wilbur wants to talk he wants to get better hes trying to do better he is doing better and hes trying to help tommy be better and feel better and he doesnt want to make him upset so hes giving him a safe word

thyere gonna see the tower theyre

parrallels of crime boys and clingy duo sailing to what is going to be a an upsetting event and joking and havign fun as they sail before it all goes downhill

"its almost as if theres a server operator listening to us" DREAM

my heart is beating so fast my heart is beating out of my chest

HE THINKS THE TOWER IS LIKE A BEACON AOUGUHHHH

WILBUR REMEMBERS GIVING TOMMY THE COMPASS

"Maybe you deserved it" WILBUR WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT

Wilbur fainted when Tommy told him he tried to kill himself...

Why is Wilbur visiting Dream in prison???? How is Dream in prison again??????

"Fond memories!" Bad choice of words Dream... that was a bad choice of words to say to a very angry brother that has tnt

holy shit wilbur

ok ok it was a dream

wilbur really want to kill dream oh this is all i could have asked for

actually no now im scared wilbur is going to die again

am i sensing a server wide event? wilbur wants to draw dream out by alerting the whole server? throught he prison alarms?

wait wasnt dreaming holing up in the prison last we saw him? he was in there messing with sam?

ERYN!!!! ERYN IS ON!!!!!!

WHAT IS CHAT GOING ON ABOUT TECHNO FOR?????? TECHNO LET DREAM OUT LAST I CHECKED

CRIME BOYS DANCING AND SINGING TO CAT TOGETHER THEYRE FINALLY HAVING THE BEACH PARTY IM CRYING

"I don't need armour" YES YOU DO WILBUR

sir why do you need to avoid showing the screen to open your enderchest why aren't the discs put away

tommy talking about listening to blocks with schlatt, fundy, and tubbo fondly :(

"Do you ever miss when things were just simple." Yeah :(

im so scared tommy wont have enough time to leave before dream shows up

im genuinely so scared i cant take this

NO DREAM ON SCREEN I AM SCARED OF DREAM BEING ON SCREEN

tommy is sheilding wilbur from dream OUGH

LITERALLY PUT THAT AXE AWAY DREAM

DREAM BROKE THE PORTAL SHIT SHIT SHIT WILBUR I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO TRICK DREAM BUT YOU DO HAVE A FLINT AND STEEL RIGHT THERE I WISH TOMMY COULD KNOW

I KEEP GETTING ADS AT THE WORST MOMENT ThIS IS THE WORST TJEY ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CONFRONTATION AN D BAM THREE ADS

WILBUR DONT THREATEN TO KJILL YOURSELF AS POWER OVER DREAM DONT PARALLEL TOMMY DURING THE DISC CONFRONTATION LIK ETHAT

the pain in tommys voice as wilbur tried to kill himself and have tommy's discs burnt

Wilbur was smart in what he did, tricking both Tommy and Dream, but he caused so much panic and pain for Tommy as well but it makes sense! it makes sense

tommy's silent little nod after wilbur tells him to never let Dream know the discs arent gone :(

"You're a good kid Tommy. Thank you for trusting me." ILL CRY ILL DO IT

#i decided to write this all in a blank document as i watched #so it all goes in one post now #anyways im going to thin k about this for forever and ever #icy rambles #dream smp #crime boys #tommyinnit #wilbur soot #voidtag d

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