#marcus x ivanova

[conundrumoftime]

Fandom grandma tales: how I survived canon ruining two of the ships I liked.

(Written after a discussion with some of my TROP fan pals about how canon can break your heart re: shipping, and how fandom manages. There are spoilers here for the entire run of Babylon 5, and for one story JMS wrote after it. yes, that story. sorry.)

Babylon 5 was a sci-fi space opera show that ran from 1993 to 1998. It is sci-fi of the era of 22-episode seasons, of huge ensemble casts with characters who get their own B- and C-plots, with an effects and casting budget that doesn’t always match its ambition, and - something it was quite pioneering in, at the time - grand pre-planned story arcs. 

It’s the first fandom that I was involved with in internet spaces as it was running, or at least when its final season was (there’s Discourse and drama from earlier years that I missed). Its showrunner, J. Michael Straczynski - ‘JMS’ - was very active in (non-fanfic) fan community spaces, and you always knew exactly what he was thinking about things because he was part of the discussion around them. There was also fanfic, which he didn’t stop but didn’t go near on the grounds of legal liability for story ideas. 

Most of the fanfic in the early days as the show was airing was focused around two big ships, of which one was canon endgame (Delenn/Sheridan) and one was canon all-ends-in-despair (Marcus/Ivanova). I, as a teenager discovering a developing online fandom for the first time with all the overwhelm and excitement that causes (ask me anything about what reading fic was like before the days of tags/ratings/warnings!) got into Marcus/Ivanova and also into one of the minor ships, Delenn/Lennier.

Delenn/Lennier was never, ever going to happen in canon. This is obvious; it clashes with Delenn/Sheridan which was JMS’s baby darling OTP, the show’s big love story. Delenn is married for the later part of the show. Lennier is her diplomatic aide, is absolutely devoted to her, and they have a very intense mentor/student relationship, which it seems is kind of standard in their culture (when Delenn’s own mentor died she went briefly insane with grief and started a genocidal war over it) but is still Very Intense. He is canonically in love with her, but that’s as far as the explicit canon statements go.

However. HowEVER. Canon also gives us, for that relationship, some wonderful ship fuel. Lennier knows about every bad thing Delenn has done, including all the stuff she doesn’t/can’t tell her husband. He’s her link to her previous world and culture and stands by her even when they kick her out. She says at one point, “without him, I would stumble and fall and never get up again.” 

And then… we had Season 5, the final season.

Season 5, for various complicated production reasons, was operating a little outside of pre-planned story arcs and in this season the Delenn/Lennier stuff ramped up about three gears in one go. It was still very obviously never, ever going to be canon, and was almost certainly not intended by the creator (who wrote most of the episodes himself) to look like there was even anything there. At this point Delenn is married; any relationship with her aide would not only be going against the show’s OTP, but going against it in the sense where she’s cheating on her husband, and there is Just No Way JMS would have gone there. And yet! Season 5 gave us:

A scene where Lennier says he can’t stay, it’s too painful to be around her now she’s married, and she’s devastated and has the following conversation with her husband about it:

S: I got your message about Lennier. Is there anything I can do?

D [snapping]: Almost certainly not.

S: Is it because of me?

D: In part, I think so.

S: Yeah, I was afraid of that. Well, as we say back on Earth, three’s a crowd.

D: On Minbar, three is sacred.

S [slightly uncomfortable laugh]: Well, I don’t think I’m ready to handle that one, Delenn.

Delenn then calling Lennier back to the station to do some secret mission thing for her, which involves her sneaking out of her bed while her husband sleeps to meet Lennier in a darkened alley behind a bar, where she tenderly strokes his face and they have a whole conversation about whether her husband understands her or not.

A scene where Lennier comes back from his secret mission to meet both Delenn and Sheridan, Delenn goes to greet him with a hug, and Lennier does this very pointed step back and nod in the direction of her husband, and she pulls back and just sort of pats him on the arms instead. 

I MEAN.

But, the issue here is not what fans did about it but what canon did about it. Canon did the canon equivalent of dragging that ship outside and shooting it in the head. 

In the final few episodes of the entire series, Lennier tries to kill Sheridan, runs away in shame, and then someone finds his diary in which he’d been writing for ages about what a bad decision he thought Delenn had made and how her whole marriage was an awful idea. Even to this day, it’s fun/awful watching people go through a first-time watch when they get to season 5 and hit that. ‘Character assassination in the form of a diary’ was a whole thing for a while. It’s been 20+ years and the actor who played Lennier is stilll mad about it (not because of shippy stuff, but because he - correctly! - thinks Lennier absolutely would not have done that). 

What *fandom* did, on the other hand, was Fixed The Problem.

Delenn/Lennier was not at all a big ship when the series was airing, and for a few years after. Then the fandom dynamics started to change. With less pressure on what canon was going to do, it felt like fandom had more space to play around with things it didn’t do. Fanfic got less interested in trying to fit within the overall story being told and started spinning off in all its own directions. And *this* ship started getting bigger and bigger. People did really interesting things with it, canon divergence went in all directions, everyone wrote a fix-it story of some variety, some authors did a great series of connected stories based on an idea that Minbari have three genders, the quality of the writing has been brilliant. And I think without that absolute whiplash feeling of what happened in canon, there would never have been this feeling of “well I’m not having THAT” which led to all this.

We did not need canon! Canon had done its thing. And canon had broken our hearts enough ways with many of the other stories it told (entirely on purpose) and we weren’t just going to sit back and let it ruin us forever.

By comparison, the other ship I was into was Marcus/Ivanova. This is entirely doomed. Susan Ivanova’s love life is just perpetually doomed. The first partner of hers we meet is an ex who’s interested in getting back together, but then it turns out he’s just using her to infiltrate the station for the fascist terrorist group he’s secretly joined. Then she falls for an archrival of hers, Talia, who works for Psi Corps, the organisation she loathes most of all things - but it’s okay because it turns out Talia is starting to question them too! Maybe these crazy kids can make it work! They have one night together and then OOPS turns out Talia was being secretly controlled by a sleeper personality implanted in her by Psi Corps the whole time. Ivanova’s love life is doomed. 

So for two seasons, she has this sort-of-flirty, sort-of-bickery, sort-of-friendship going with Marcus, who is on the surface of it very much “why not fall in love at first sight like a true romantic, YOLO!” but it turns out is actually deeply messed up himself and full of survivor’s guilt and pain and, you get the clear impression, would have died of shock if she’d actually called his bluff on the OTT flirting and said “yeah, let’s go for it”. And then he sacrifices himself to save her life. It is a very tragic ending, it is absolutely the way he would have wanted to go, she wakes up both furious and absolutely distraught, says that the last thing she heard was him saying “I love you”, says she wishes she’d at least slept with him once, and says that in a way all love is unrequited. PAIN. 

So, lots of fix-it fanfic, lots of ‘Marcus comes back to life’, lots of canon divergence AUs where he doesn’t die and they live happily ever after and both get over their huge levels of unresolved pain. Pretty standard for that kind of pairing. And as a pairing it doesn’t get in the way of any big canon pairings, it doesn’t imply anything icky like mentor/student power imbalances or adultery. And JMS clearly quite liked it. So that’s better, right?

NO. It was WORSE.

JMS wrote an Marcus/Ivanova story himself, published in one of the sci-fi magazines, to try to give them a happy ending. This happy ending involves Marcus, many many years in the future, waking up from the cryogenic suspension he’s in (it’s sci-fi, keep up, keep up). Ivanova is long dead, but he isn’t about to let this get in the way, so what he does is to *create a new Ivanova* by getting some kind of DNA + computerised memory/personality bank thing, finding a doctor who will clone her, putting himself back into animated sleep until the clone reaches the age Ivanova was when she died, then - THEN, I’M STILL GOING - takes her to a distant planet where, with her memories wiped and their spaceship having deliberately been crashed BY HIM so there’s no way back, they live out their lives in peace.

WHAT.

That pairing still does okay in fandom but it’s not really taken on a post-show world of headcanons and riffing on other people’s ideas and tropes in the way that Delenn/Lennier has (and we all just pretend that story never existed). 

So! This has been my experiences in the field of What We Do When The Show Has Thoughts On That Non-Endgame Ship We’re Into. Fandom manages. Fandom will see you through. And in the words of Susan Ivanova:

Babylon Five was the last of the Babylon stations; there would never be another. It changed the future, and it changed us. It taught us that we have to create the future, or others will do it for us. It showed us that we have to care for one another, for if we don’t, who will? And that true strength sometimes comes from the most unlikely places. Mostly though, I think it gave us hope that there can always be new beginnings - even for people like us.

#fandom grandma #fandom history #non-endgame ships #shipping #canon and non-canon ships #babylon 5 #delenn x lennier #marcus x ivanova #that story's not canon if I say it's not canon #b5 #what in the actual hell was that diary anyway #snarky bill mumy interview forever in our hearts #never have I seen a more perfect ot3 setup and YET

[itberice]

#Babylon 5 #Babylon5edit #Susan Ivanova #Marcus Cole #Susan x Marcus #Claudia Christian #Jason Carter #my edits

[therighthandofvengeance]

Marcus: I hate having a crush, I always act so stupid when I’m around mine.

Ivanova: you’re always acting stupid, Marcus.

Marcus: …don’t think about it too much.

#who are queue? what do queue want? #incorrect babylon 5 quote #susan ivanova #marcus cole #source: @therighthandofvengeance #she’s oblivious #obvious x oblivious

[dixongrimesgirl]

Someone needs to write Susan Ivanova and Marcus Cole Fanfic. I have read all the ones on archive of our own and even written a couple myself. I just love these two so much and want them to live on and get to be in a relationship together like they deserved. I love these two so much!

#susan ivanova #marcus cole #babylon 5 #Babylon 5 season 4 #Commander Susan Ivanova #Marova #Marcus Cole x Susan Ivanova

[jewish-ship-showdown]

Ships that have already qualified (read before submitting):

Jude Lizowski/Jonesy Garcia

Tyler Kennedy "TK" Strand/Carlos Reyes

Peter Parker (Spider-Man)/Gwen Stacey

Willow Rosenberg/Winifred "Fred" Burkle

Francine Frensky/Muffy Crosswire

Susan Ivanova/Marcus Cole

Kate Kane (Batwoman)/Renee Montoya

Barry B. Benson/Vanessa Bloome

Jake Peralta/Amy Santiago

Willow Rosenberg/Tara Maclay

Jack Zimmermann/Eric "Bitty" Bittle

Justin "Ransom" Oluransi/Adam "Holster" Birkholtz

Danny/Reuven

Larissa "Lara" Bogdan/Jasmine

Kelsey Pokly/Isabella "Stacks" Alvarado

Rebecca Bunch/Audra Levine

Rebecca Bunch/Greg Serrano

Rebecca Bunch/Nathaniel Plimpton

Samantha "Sam" Manson/Danniel "Danny" Fenton

Bruce Wayne (Batman)/Selina Kyla (Catwoman)

Bruce Wayne (Batman)/Clark Kent (Superman)

Clark Kent (Superman)/Lois Lane

Harley Quinn/Pamela Isley (Poison Ivy)

Barney Guttman/Logan Nguyen

Leah/Chanan

Shay Goldstein/Dominic Yun

Marvin/Whizzer

Trina/Mendel Weisenbachfeld

Perchik/Hodel

Tzeitel/Motel

Monica Gellar/Chandler Bing

Molly McGee/Libby Stein Torres

Rachel Berry/Noah Puckerman

Fiddleford McGucket/Stanford Pines

Cristina Yang/Owen Hunt

Cristina Yang/Preston Burke

Levi Schmidt/Nico Kim

Rose Lalonde/Kanaya Maryam

James Wilson/Gregory House

The Baker and/The Baker's Wife

Kim Possible/Ron Stoppable

The Jewish People/The Shabbat Bride

Alec Hardison/Parker

Max Eisenhardt (Magneto)/Charles Xavier (Professor X)

Steve Rogers (Captain America)/James "Bucky" Barnes

Arnold "Arnie" Roth/Michael Bech

Arnold "Arnie" Roth/Steve Rogers (Captain America)

Billy Kaplan (Wiccan)/Teddy Altman (Hulkling)

Bobby Drake (Iceman)/Hank McCoy (Beast)

Bobby Drake (Iceman)/Johnny Storm (The Human Torch)

Layla El Faouly/Mark Spector (Moon Knight)

Matthew Hawk (Two-Gun Kid II)/Clint Barton (Hawkeye)

Peter Parker (Spider-Man)/Betty Brant

Peter Parker (Spider-Man)/Eugene "Flash" Thompson

Peter Parker (Spider-Man)/ Felicia Hardy

Peter Parker (Spider-Man)/ Harry Osborn

Peter Parker (Spider-Man)/Katherine Anne "Kitty" Pryde

Peter Parker (Spider-Man)/Mary Jane "MJ" Watson

Peter Parker (Spider-Man)/Wade Wilson (Deadpool)

Steve Rogers/Bernadette "Bernie" Rosenthal

Wanda Maximoff/The Vision

Midge Maisel/Susie Myerson

Hal Emmerich (Otacon)/Solid Snake

Casey Goldberg-Calderon/Lunella Lafayette

Fran Fine/Max Sheffield

Ben Gross/Devi Vishwakumar

Winston Schmidt/Cece Parekh

David Jacobs/Jack Kelly

Seth Cohen/Summer Roberts

Scout Touzani/Elias Wyrick

KJ Brandman/Mac Coyle

Lavinia Asimov/Poison Oak

Phineas Flynn/Isabella Garcia-Shapiro

Anon's Mom/Dad

The person reading this & their partner

Jerry Seinfeld/Cosmo Kramer

Simon Lewis/Isabel Lightwood

Danielle/Maya

Bram Greenfeld/Simon Spier

Miryem Mandelstam/The Staryk King

David Rose/Patrick Brewer

James T Kirk/S'chn T'gai Spock

Worf Rozhenko/Jadzia Dax

Kanan Jarrus/Hera Syndulla

Brian Jeeter/Krejjh

Bobby Singer/Rufus Turner

Jonah Simms/Amy Sosa

Reish Lakish/Rabbi Yochanen

King David/Yonatan

Devorah/Barak

Moses/Tzipporah

Ruth/Naomi

Yaakov/The Angel

Rowan Roth/Neil Mcnair

Klaus Hargreeves/Dave Katz

Cecil Palmer/Carlos The Scientist

Josh Lyman/Donna Moss

Little Ash/Uriel

Lucille "Lucy" Kensington/Dr. Edison "Ed" Tucker

Fox Mulder/Dana Scully

Anshel/Avigdor

Alec Hardison/Parker/Eliot Spencer

Wanda Maximoff (The Scarlet Witch)/Jericho Drumm

Bruce Wayne (Batman)/Shondra Kinsolving

Bruce Wayne (Batman)/Talia Al Ghul

Ben Grimm (The Thing)/Alicia Masters

Velma Dinkley/Daphne Blake

Velma Dinkley/Marcie Fleach

Didi Pickles/Stu Pickles

Velma Dinkley/Coco Diablo

Babushka (Tatiana)/Dedushka (Ivan)

Kitty Pryde/Illyana Rasputin

Natasha Romanoff/Wanda Maximoff

Marc Spector (Moon Knight)/Clint Barton (Hawkeye)

Hillel/Shammai

S'chn T'gai Spock/James T Kirk/Dr. Leonard "Bones" McCoy

S'chn T'gai Spock/Dr. Leonard "Bones" McCoy

Frankie Bergstein/Grace Hanson

Annie Edison/Jeff Winger

Maxine Myers/Paula Cohen

Baby Houseman/Johnny Castle

Tevye/Golde

Michael "Mike" Wazowski/Celia Mae

Talmudic couple having gay sex in the attic

Tim Drake/Kon El (Conner Kent)

Violet Baudelaire/Quigley Quagmire

Reuben Kent/Feliks Kaufmann

Anshel/Avigdor/Hadass

Amram/Zelikman

Anshel/Hadass

SUBMISSIONS ARE OPEN UNTIL MAY 8, 2023 @ 12:00 AM EDT

#info #if you have any reasons a ship shouldn't be on this list let me know since I don't have the ability to fully vet everything #there are a small handful im still considering #will update as more submissions trickle in

[measlyfurball13]

What your favorite Babylon 5 ship says about you

As in, relationships, not actual ships, although if I had to pick an actual ship it would be the Warship Agamemnon (or any of the earth ships lol) but anyways back to the point! In the style of these videos.

G’kar x Londo: you believe in the inherent eroticism of trying to kill each other.

Londo x Vir: you believe in the inherent eroticism of wacky sidekicks.

Lennier x Delenn: let’s be real, you just wanted good things for Lennier. And really, who wouldn’t?

Sheridan x Delenn: your top priority is keeping things canon and keeping things wholesome.

Ivanova x Talia: It was 1995 and you just about fainted when you got honest-to-god canon femslash. . . but you’re still not over that your gays got buried so fast it’s only second to Destiel at this point.

Ivanova x Marcus: you watched a man simp for an entire season and you cheered for him every step of the way.

Marcus x Neroon: You think that “opposites attract” is a highly underrated trope.

Garibaldi x Sinclair: you believe in the inherent eroticism of old friends. Also you have a thing for dads.

Sheridan x Kosh: you believe in the inherent eroticism of wise and mysterious mentors. . . or you’re an alien fucker.

Lyta x Kosh: you believe in the inherent eroticism of telepathic connections. . . or you’re an alien fucker.

Morden x anyone: you have a thing for Morden and you aren’t ready to admit it.

Bester x anyone: you have a kink for evil authoritarian figures and you ARE ready to admit it. --- I haven’t seen any other ships. . . add them if you think I missed some.

#babylon 5 #absolute nonsense #shitpost #to again emphasize: this is a SHITPOST

[toliveanddieinstarlight]

Season 3! Episodes 1 and 2

Episode 1: Matters of Honor

Kosh is such a sassmouth - or he would be, if he had an actual mouth.

Aw, yay, I couldn't remember how soon Marcus Cole showed up in the season. Nice to see that it is right fuckin up top!

I love how Londo starts off kind of amused here, clearly interested though.

And then he remembers: oh... it was a bad dream.

And then he remembers: OH. It was a bad prophetic dream.

Londo’s internal monologue right now is just soft cursing in Centauri.

I love that Delenn can absolutely throw down alongside Marcus and Lennier.

Love that White Star reveal.

Ivanova and Marcus have their first real conversation and he immediately overshares. Marcus you are a massive dweeb and I love you.

Episode 2: Convictions

Brother Theo. Even though my interest in religion for myself was quickly waning even by this time, he and his monks's mission felt so remarkable to me. The idea of a religious order being devoted to "learning all the names of God" was just something else. It's also very cute how hard Ivanova tries to say no to Theo, but he's just so damn amenable and polite and has all his bases covered.

It's kinda dumb, but it makes me a little happy to imagine that humans are such goofy dipshits, we're still telling "how many X does it take to screw in a lightbulb" jokes.

I love that Andreas Katsulas plays this scene quietly amused but also full of barely-controlled rage.

"I fear I have served the present by sacrificing the future." For some reason I remembered Lennier delivering that line to Londo. Still, fuckin scathing.

#babylon 5 #babylon 5 spoilers #delenn #marcus cole #lennier #londo mollari #david endawi #brother theo #g'kar

[salmonthestoryteller]

The last post reminded me that I do not have good luck with ships in series. XD

Here's from the ones I mentioned plus a few. (Spoilers involved.) (All Gifs from Gif searches.)

Hige x Blue (Wolf's Rain)

Well, everyone is WR technically dies. (And is technically also still alive.) And Blue and Hige die together, and it's just all: 😭

Zack x Lyta (Babylon 5)

Who apparently nobody likes enough to make good gifs for. Anyhow, Lyta tossed Zack for Byron... Who I can't even find a gif for... No real loss. Seriously, Lyta, I'm a lesbian and even I would have chosen Zack over Byron.

Ivanova x Talia (Babylon 5):

If you've never watched the show- Yes! They are Canon. Talia ends up being a sleeper agent. When her other personality is released the one we know is destroyed, essentially killing her though her body lives on as the other person. 😭

Ivanova x Marcus (Babylon 5):

So after losing Talia, Ivanova gets a new romantic option later in the series in Marcus... who kills himself to save her life.

I am not even joking. She loses both her love interests over 4 seasons, and I shipped both and still got no HEA. (It remains one of my fav series despite this. Not sure what that says about me.)

AusHun (APH/Hetalia)

I adore them, but there are no Canon ships in Hetalia. I lie, there is HRE x Chibitalia. But that's like first crush/love and historically would end with their goodbye and HRE dying. Every other relationship is up for interpretation. (Which is something all APH fandom loves and lives for, including me.) But technically, Canon wise, my ship is divorced. (But, no not an official ship even if they were married. I understand how confusing that might sound to non fans. XD )

Sinbad x Maeve (The Adventures of Sinbad):

Y'know, even though they were my final choice while looking for a happier ship they technically don't get an HEA. In season 2, Maeve is washed overboard and we spend a good portion of the season searching for her. Only to end with the notion she's safe but not returning any time soon, and he has to go on without her for now. So I mean, it's possible for them to have a future HEA, but where the series ended it didn't happen.

I think this might explain my love of old movies... at least I got my HEA.

#romance #shipping #wolf's rain #babylon 5 #aph #the adventures of sinbad #ladyhawke #krull #the ghost and mrs. muir

[delennthewise-blog]

Rewatching B5 S4 Ep 9-13

ahaha Lennier

G’Kar and his prosthetic eye is great!

oh my Ivanova and the Drazi

Lennier is the sweetest

Minbari has some really really strange rules

oh young Delenn

No mercy

A child of Valen, Delenn is a Great x? Granddaughter

I feel really bad for Lennier

Franklin and Marcus field trip

Captain Jack, why is it always Jack??

a young married couple ahaha

Garibaldi is a mess

Marcus is such a ham

Sheridan is rather disrespectful to Minbari rituals

eww Parasites

Ivanova has huge wlw energy

Drakh?

Marcus you romantic

Delenn on her own is badass

Loony Toons product placement

The Zathras-ing

oof Garibaldi’s ex is back

G’Kar “great it’s fucking Londo”

Zach *bangs head against wall*

that Star shaped thing Marcus is eating, I’d like to try

Shouldn’t Delenn be the “One who will be?” as she’s probably going to live than Sheridan?

Delenn’s prosthetic isn’t looking good this ep

more Neroon time

After a Fashion

Londo, what. the. actual. hell.

Lennier would take a bullet for you

Neroon noooo...

#Out of Council >> OOC #mun rewatches b5

[itberice]

#Babylon 5 #Babylon5edit #Susan Ivanova #Marcus Cole #Susan x Marcus #Claudia Christian #Jason Carter #my edits

[therighthandofvengeance]

Poor Sheridan. He keeps sending Ivanova on missions with someone who’s madly in love with her, and she just keeps interrupting every single romantic endeavor of which he ever finds himself to be a part.

#babylon 5 #b5 #for once it's not an incorrect quote #john sheridan #susan ivanova #again: older brother and younger sister #himbo and the bi tale as old as time #susan x marcus #john x delenn #and Julie Mustante that one time #“John x Delenn” x a very tired and exasperated Susan Ivanova #I love Susan Ivanova. I despise her timing in Sic Transit Vir. #Susan Ivanova can do no wrong. that being said… how dare she abruptly end such a tender moment between John and Delenn #and on the other hand #here we have John J Sheridan: Wingman Supreme #Susan and Marcus keep going on adventure after adventure together and Susan still has enough time to go interfere in her C.O.’s love life

[dixongrimesgirl]

Sleeping Like Ivanova(AKA Not At All)

"Marcus. Marcus! MARCUS!" she yells and he finally wakes up. "Right sorry." he says standing up from the Minbari bed. She tries to position herself on the Minbari bed. "One day I like to be stationed somewhere with a big 4-poster bed and a canopy and maybe a window of a garden." she says. "I like gardens. And big 4-poster beds." he replies. She turns her head to him and gives him a weird questioning look. He realises what he had said and leaves. She tries to stay on the bed never mind get comfortable but she has no luck. After hours of trying she finally comes up with an idea. She lays all of the little triangle pillows into the form of a rectangle on the floor and lays on top of them. Just as she lays down Marcus's voice comes through telling her to come to him. She groans and gets up.

That night once they've returned to Babylon 5 Ivanova is walking with Marcus back to her quarters. When they arrive he asks "Can I come in? If you'd like. I don't have to" he rambles. "Yeah come in" she says. They walk in and the door closes behind them. "Do you want something to drink?" she asks but when she turns around his face is inches away from hers. They stand there staring at each other until she rests her hand on the back of his head and pushes him into her with a kiss. The kiss is hungry and she unbraids her hair. She grabs him by the collar and gestures for him to follow her. She takes off her uniform and sits down on the bed. She lays down and he climbs on top of her, their lips meeting again. She pulls his shirt up and he helps her remove it. She runs her hands over his chest and he sighs. She goes to take off his pants but he cuts her. "Ladies first" he says. He struggles to unclasp her bra but once he does he moans. He kisses every inch of exposed skin and when he flicks his tongue over one of her nipples she moans and arches into his mouth. He pulls back and she lifts her hips up as he slides her underwear down her legs and throws it onto the floor to meet their other discarded clothing. He removes his pants and underwear and climbs on top of her. They kiss until she flips them over so she is now straddling his waist. She sinks down onto him and they both moan. "I'm not going to last long" he says. "I know. It's your first time." she replies. She rises until only the tip is inside her and then slams back down. He's cumming in no time and watching him, the look on his face and the sounds he's making has her cumming after him. She collapses on top of him. She eventually gets off of him and lays down beside him. "So was that as good as you had imagined?" she asks. "Way better." he replies causing her to smile. He leans over and kisses her. "Because if you think I didn't do a good job I can through you out an airlock." she says and he laughs before kissing her again and she kisses back. They both hum from bliss and soon they are both fast asleep.

#BB5 #Babylon 5 #Susan Ivanova #Marcus Cole #Marcus Cole x Susan Ivanova #Ivanova x Marcus #smut

[jewish-ship-showdown]

QUALIFYING SHIPS UNDER THE CUT

Send me an ask or direct message if 🠺 You feel that any ship shouldn't be on here and explain why 🠺 You have any questions at all 🠺 You just want to say hi

Jude Lizowski/Jonesy Garcia

Tyler Kennedy "TK" Strand/Carlos Reyes

Peter Parker (Spider-Man)/Gwen Stacey

Willow Rosenberg/Winifred "Fred" Burkle

Francine Frensky/Muffy Crosswire

Luna Armoza/Matilda Franco

Susan Ivanova/Marcus Cole

Barry B. Benson/Vanessa Bloome

Michael Mell/Jeremy Heere

Jake Peralta/Amy Santiago

Willow Rosenberg/Tara Maclay

Jack Zimmermann/Eric "Bitty" Bittle

Justin "Ransom" Oluransi/Adam "Holster" Birkholtz

Danny/Reuven

Annie Edison/Jeff Winger

Larissa "Lara" Bogdan/Jasmine

Kelsey Pokly/Isabella "Stacks" Alvarado

Rebecca Bunch/Audra Levine

Rebecca Bunch/Greg Serrano

Rebecca Bunch/Nathaniel Plimpton

Samantha "Sam" Manson/Danniel "Danny" Fenton

Bruce Wayne (Batman)/Clark Kent (Superman)

Bruce Wayne( Batman)/Minkhoa Khan (Ghostmaker)

Bruce Wayne (Batman)/Selina Kyla (Catwoman)

Bruce Wayne (Batman)/Shondra Kinsolving

Bruce Wayne (Batman)/Talia Al Ghul

Clark Kent (Superman)/Lois Lane

Harley Quinn/Pamela Isley (Poison Ivy)

Kate Kane (Batwoman)/Renee Montoya

Martha Kane/Thomas Wayne/Alfred Pennyworth

Tim Drake/Kon El (Conner Kent)

Barney Guttman/Logan "Logs" Nguyen

Baby Houseman/Johnny Castle

Leah/Chanan

Shay Goldstein/Dominic Yun

Marvin/Whizzer

Trina/Mendel Weisenbachfeld

Perchik/Hodel

Tevye/Golde

Tzeitel/Motel

Monica Gellar/Chandler Bing

Amram/Zelikman

Molly McGee/Libby Stein Torres

Rachel Berry/Noah Puckerman

Frankie Bergstein/Grace Hanson

Fiddleford McGucket/Stanford Pines

Cristina Yang/Owen Hunt

Cristina Yang/Preston Burke

Levi Schmidt/Nico Kim

Rose Lalonde/Kanaya Maryam

James Wilson/Gregory House

Ashlyn Caswell/Big Red

The Baker and/The Baker's Wife

Kim Possible/Ron Stoppable

Ellie Williams/Dina

The Jewish People/The Shabbat Bride

Alec Hardison/Parker

Alec Hardison/Parker/Eliot Spencer

Arnold "Arnie" Roth/Michael Bech

Arnold "Arnie" Roth/Steve Rogers (Captain America)

Ben Grimm (The Thing)/Alicia Masters

Billy Kaplan (Wiccan)/Teddy Altman (Hulkling)

Bobby Drake (Iceman)/Hank McCoy (Beast)

Bobby Drake (Iceman)/Johnny Storm (The Human Torch)

Katherine Anne "Kitty" Pryde/Illyana Rasputin (Magik)

Layla El Faouly/Marc Spector (Moon Knight)

Matthew Hawk (Two-Gun Kid II)/Clint Barton (Hawkeye)

Marc Spector (Moon Knight)/Clint Barton (Hawkeye)

Max Eisenhardt (Magneto)/Charles Xavier (Professor X)

Natasha Romanoff/Wanda Maximoff

Peter Parker (Spider-Man)/Betty Brant

Peter Parker (Spider-Man)/Eugene "Flash" Thompson

Peter Parker (Spider-Man)/ Felicia Hardy (Black Cat)

Peter Parker (Spider-Man)/Harry Osborn

Peter Parker (Spider-Man)/Katherine Anne "Kitty" Pryde

Peter Parker (Spider-Man)/Mary Jane "MJ" Watson

Peter Parker (Spider-Man)/Wade Wilson (Deadpool)

Steve Rogers/Bernadette "Bernie" Rosenthal

Steve Rogers (Captain America)/James "Bucky" Barnes

Wanda Maximoff (The Scarlet Witch)/Jericho Drumm

Wanda Maximoff (The Scarlet Witch)/The Vision

Midge Maisel/Susie Myerson

Hal Emmerich (Otacon)/Solid Snake

Michael "Mike" Wazowski/Celia Mae

Casey Goldberg-Calderon/Lunella Lafayette

Fran Fine/Max Sheffield

Ben Gross/Devi Vishwakumar

Winston Schmidt/Cece Parekh

David Jacobs/Jack Kelly

Seth Cohen/Summer Roberts

Reuben Kent/Feliks Kaufmann

Scout Touzani/Elias Wyrick

KJ Brandman/Mac Coyle

Lavinia Asimov/Poison Oak

Phineas Flynn/Isabella Garcia-Shapiro

Anon's Mom/Dad

Babushka (Tatiana)/Dedushka (Ivan)

Hillel/Shammai

The person reading this & their partner

Didi Pickles/Stu Pickles

Captain Rivka Maror/Isaac The Wizard

Shulamit/Aviva

Jerry Seinfeld/Cosmo Kramer

Violet Baudelaire/Quigley Quagmire

Simon Lewis/Isabel Lightwood

Danielle/Maya

Bram Greenfeld/Simon Spier

Miryem Mandelstam/The Staryk King

David Rose/Patrick Brewer

Velma Dinkley/Daphne Blake

Velma Dinkley/Marcie "Hot Dog Water" Fleach

S'chn T'gai Spock/James T Kirk

S'chn T'gai Spock/James T Kirk/Leonard "Bones" McCoy

S'chn T'gai Spock/Leonard "Bones" McCoy

Worf Rozhenko/Jadzia Dax

Kanan Jarrus/Hera Syndulla

Brian Jeeter/Krejjh

Bobby Singer/Rufus Turner

Jonah Simms/Amy Sosa

Reish Lakish/Rabbi Yochanen

Couple having gay sex in the study hall attic (Talmud)

Avraham Avinu and Sarah Imanu

King David/Yonatan

Devorah/Barak

Moses/Tzipporah

Ruth/Naomi

Solomon's Muse (female)/Solomon's Muse (male)

Yaakov/The Angel

Velma Dinkley/Coco Diablo

Rowan Roth/Neil Mcnair

Klaus Hargreeves/Dave Katz

Cecil Palmer/Carlos the Scientist

Josh Lyman/Donna Moss

Little Ash/Uriel

Lucille "Lucy" Kensington/Dr. Edison "Ed" Tucker

Fox Mulder/Dana Scully

Anshel/Avigdor

Anshel/Avigdor/Hadass

Anshel/Hadass

Maxine Myers/Paula Cohen

#jumblr #jewish #judaism #info #poll #polls #brackets #actual bracket coming soon im trying to work out how to make it accessible #rules and propaganda form coming soon

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8, 30, 50

8. OTP?

I don’t actually have a lot of ships for popular characters - the only relationship I’ve ever had strong feelings for also spawned my NoTP because I was just that emotionally invested in this series. So there’s a series by R.A. Salvatore inside the Forgotten Realms world called “The Legend of Drizzt,” and it starts with the Icewind Dale trilogy and has a lot of books thereafter. Somewhere in this pretty good book series, Salvatore makes the inexcusable decision to force a romance with a woman who just had her actual husband killed and a dark elf who’s been having regular friendly drop ins with the queen of a nearby city. So yeah, I deny Cattie Brie x Drizzt Do’Urden and I reject that canon, and substitute it with Alustriel x Drizzt because they belong together and are fantastic.

Also Hagrid x Madame Maxime because that needs to be finished.

And maybe Susan Ivanova x Talia Winters. But Susan x Marcus is good too.

30. Meaning behind your URL

This name was actually a tidbit from a conversation my friends and I had last year at University during lunch. We were trying to come up with ridiculous band names, and we went from mythical creatures spontaneously combusting to Hydra on Fire. It’s not super catchy and not super personal to me, I just think it’s a funny inside joke.

50. What is your favorite movie?

Gah, this one is hard...I have a particular fondness for cult classics that are not particularly stand out in any way, but are sensational just because of how silly, goofy, or culturally outside the norm they are. Especially the old ones. But I recently watched a mockumentary about vampires living in New Zealand that I would watch infinite times, so we’ll go with “What we do in the shadows.” Also Sparkly David Bowie and all of Labyrinth.

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by Eliann_SleepingCat

A multiple crossover between four different universes.

The ghost of the Mary Celeste seems to be the focal point of a particularly mean time break involving just about everybody from all walks of - time ...

Words: 600, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English

Fandoms: Sapphire and Steel, The X-Files, Babylon 5, Star Trek

Rating: General Audiences

Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply

Categories: Gen

Characters: Sapphire (S&S), Steel (S&S), Fox Mulder, Dana Scully, Susan Ivanova, Marcus Cole (Babylon 5), Jeffrey Sinclair

Relationships: Sapphire & Steel (S&S), Fox Mulder & Dana Scully, Marcus Cole & Susan Ivanova

from AO3 works tagged 'Babylon 5' http://ift.tt/2CiQWl0

#IFTTT #ao3feed #fanfic #Babylon 5

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#Babylon 5 #Babylon5edit #Stephen Franklin #Marcus Cole #Susan Ivanova #b5edit #Susan x Marcus #my edits