In regard to the vice honteaux discussion that went on in the community recently, I'd like to share some of my classics background. Cicero, a Roman philosoph who was an extensive part of the education curriculum at Louis-Le-Grand and other revolutionaries' schoolings, has an account of the Cataline conspiracy. In this writing, he discusses conspirators' immoral vices and behaviors.
McPhee touches on this in Robespierre: A Revolutionary Life, with an excerpt shown below, and Marisa Linton discusses it as well.
Knowledge and understanding of the classics, at least the basic principles, is absolutely fundamental when critically interpreting the Revolution, and eapecially decisive, convoluted moments like the Indulgents' (Danton and co.) split with "Robespierrests" in late 1793-early 1794.
I swear to god this man comes back to get me at least once a year EVERY SINGLE YEAR I CONVINCE MYSELF HES NOT THAT CUTE BUT THEN IT HAPPENS AGAIN. AND AGAIN. AND FUCKING AGAIN.
WHY IS JACK'S (Jack McPhee, aka gay guy from Dawson's Creek who is heavily paralleled to Mike Wheeler) FIRST TIME AT A GAY BAR SCENE LITERALLY RINK 'O MANIA???? WTF
I know the duffers LOVE to parallel Mike to Jack, but idk if those were just a common combination of lights or if this means something lol, I know that the rink 'o mania scene is EXTREMELY queercoded with all the music and queer imagry in the background so I think the Duffers did this on purpose