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#mike is a bitch at times
Jargyle high, trying to cheer El up after the whole Rink o Mania thing is just amazing, especially considering Mike was being all bitchy about it
Kudos to Jonathan and Argyle for possibly making El feel slightly better. Mike, go get a boyfriend and stay away from El for a bit. El, go steal yourself some Eggos :)
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bylertruther · 1 year
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i feel like a lot of ppl forget tht max is not a mean person. she was a bit standoffish at first, but that's because a group of boys were "stalking" her (lol) and she was struggling with her new situation. once she realized they were cool, she warmed up to them, wanted to be in their party, and got upset when she felt like they were playing hot and cold with her. and yes, this includes mike, too.
she wanted and tried very hard to be mike's friend. she repeatedly tried to find common ground with him, impress him, talk to him, and extended, like, 9384030 olive branches even though he refused them, lashed out at her, and pushed her away every time.
the same is true in season three. when lucas and will are poking fun at mike, max takes mike's side and defends him. it's only when she becomes friends with el and learns more about their relationship that she changes towards him a little, but that's not even entirely true. her behavior towards him is entirely reactive. once again, he's the one lashing out at her because he's jealous of their friendship, and max is swift to "give him the medicine" every time he tries her. still, that doesn't mean she doesn't like him lmao. she's just not gonna take his attitude without giving some back. that doesn't make her bitchy or mean, though.
like... the jokes are funny, yeah. but with every fandom joke it seems, this joke ends up turning into fanon character interpretation that eventually becomes what people think canon!max actually is. and it's, like... whoa. max? you think max mayfield of all people would be mean for no reason?
max, who didn't give up on mike even when he was mean to her? max, who told lucas that she's angry and sorry but doesn't ever want to be like her brother? max, who stood up to her brother for being a racist, abusive piece of shit because no one else would or could? max, who accepted the risk and showed up to help people she'd only just met even though it was dangerous? max, who never held el snubbing her against her? max, who defended her and mike despite everything? max, who took el in, listened to her, helped her, and immediately became her bestie and heart? max, who defended el all the time and always believed in her? max, who goes to help a stranger crying in the bathroom stall despite having a supremely shitty time herself? max, who refuses to let anyone else take her place in their battle plans? max, who accepted the risk, knowing that failure meant a painful and sadistic death, and sacrificed herself anyway to save the world?
that max?
yes, she's sarcastic. yes, she can be hotheaded. yes, she can be snarky. yes, she absolutely will serve you some attitude right back. but for fucks sake, dude... that doesn't mean she's mean and definitely not unprompted. :/
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bylrndgm · 1 year
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hellfire t-shirt mike, you'll always be famous (breakfast/pep rally)
jesus, how am i gonna survive a whole week without you guys?
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ickypuppi3 · 1 year
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something about argyle getting the wrong end of the stick when he sees billy and steve (who are totally just friends) doing their thing and deciding to pull a very confused steve to the side for a shovel talk like-
argyle: [putting a hand on steve’s shoulder] i’m a chill guy, man
steve: .. uh yeah? yeah you are
argyle: but that’s my boy
steve: [looking around, confused] hargr- um, billy?
argyle: uh huh, and i don’t wanna see him hurting
steve: i’m not gonna.. we had a fight like one tim-
argyle: he’s a sensitive dude, y’know [tapping steve’s chest] in here
steve: what is happening right n-
argyle: [walking away] treat him well is all i’m saying, man, ‘cause i’ll be watching
steve: .. ok?
[a few minutes later]
billy: hey harrington, you good?
steve: i, uh- i think so..?
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chirpsythismorning · 1 year
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Mike low-key fuming here bc Will was a little too quick to turn down going to see a movie
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dizzybevvie · 1 year
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Why was the Until Dawn fandub literally life changing
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evilsartcorner · 8 months
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nyxi-pixie · 2 years
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hello yes i would like to submit my evidence for why will is the 'excuse me he asked for no pickles' bf bc.
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will wanted to leave he was just like ugh lucas ur in my way MOVE BITCH 🙄😤😤😤
and then mike is like ohshitohshitohshitohshit MY BOYFRIEND NOOO i gotta parkour around my bestie real quick give me a second
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bylertruther · 11 months
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those mike pov fics that really actually show the difference between mike and will's exterior behavior in the sense that mike sees and knows that will is less "tough" and "masculine" than him, but he doesn't think anything negative of it at all and is trying to break through to will who is trying to hide that bc he feels shame or embarrassment for it..... they jus hit different .
and when will sees that mike won't judge him for his sensitivity and that he actually loves that about him? that mike doesn't view him as any less of a man or view it as abnormal? and so he comes out of his shell and becomes so much more vibrant? bro im tearing up just thinking abt it like—
AND WHEN THAT IN TURN MAKES MIKE COME OUT OF HIS SHELL, TOO, AND BECOME MORE EXPRESSIVE AND VULNERABLE?! GODDDDDDDDD
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avengedbiologist · 3 months
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Green death changed me as a person.
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Mike is going have a heart-to-heart with Hopper in s5 Theory with a capital “T”
At the end of season 4 we have this very minor Mike/Hopper bonding moment which is honestly pretty cool considering the fact that they didn’t really leave on good terms in s3. It emphasized that the “hatred” towards each other was a short lived phase and not anything serious or overly concerning. Their interaction set the path for their relationship to be better in s5 than it was in s3!
Hopper:“you grew”
Mike:“you shrunk”
This is their dialogue in this scene and it immediately shows us that both of them are past what had happened the summer before, while still keeping that dynamic they’ve got going on with Mike having the freedom to be snarky and not overly cautious around Hop. They also hug afterwards which indicates that Mike is comfortable around him.
“You grew” is of course not only about Mike’s hight! It’s a comment on Mike having made progress in growing up, and that he’s more mature than he was last summer. This was their very first interaction since last summer though! They have not seen each other in 8 months and so Hop doesn’t actually have any evidence for the second meaning of “you grew”………yet!
I think this scene was foreshadowing the fact that Mike and Hopper will actually fully mend their relationship in s5 by having an impactful scene together! And I’m pretty sure it’s gonna be a heart-to-heart and variation of a coming out scene!
Why do I think that?
At the end of season 3, right after that very awkward kiss between Mike and El, El goes to Joyce and they talk about the speech Hop wrote, and Joyce says:
“It’s the speech Hop wrote for you and Mike” – “you know. The heart-to-heart” – “he never talked to you didn’t he?”
The speech was for El and Mike! They were all supposed to have a heart–to–heart together but as we know, that didn’t work out at all.
Could this also mean that Hop will have a heart-to-heart with El and not Mike? Well, yeah. But I honestly don’t think it does! Hopper wanted to teach them an important lesson with his speech. The message behind his words was the important thing and by reading the letter El got that message! It might’ve not been in person but El already received that heart-to-heart that she was supposed to get. Mike didn’t.
Hopper’s speech/letter:
“I know this is a difficult conversation but I care about you both very much and I know that you care about each other very much […]”
Hop cares very much about both of them! YES, Hopper is El’s dad and YES, he’s going to be biased in a lot of different situations, siding with his daughter, but he also cares very much about Mike! So when Hop finds out about Mike and El’s current situation, I don’t think he will be an asshole to Mike again!! He said he cares very much about him but he has yet to show that he really does! And if he’s just an asshole to him again in s5 then he’s contradicting himself, their scene in s4 would be totally misleading and it would just be bad writing which is why I’m actually certain that Hop will even try and be there for Mike if he sees that he’s in distress over something!!!
This whole sentence also feels like it could foreshadow a heart-to-heart with Mike and Hop because the way it is phrased can totally be applied to Mike and El’s current situation!
“[…]a difficult conversation[…]” -> a heart-to-heart with Mike and Hopper would definitely be a difficult conversation because the main topic is a sensitive one, Mike already struggles with opening up and talking about his feelings, the suggestion of a breakup is difficult and the situation is just overall complicated!
“[…]but I care about you both very much and I know that you care about each other very much[…]” -> anyone who cares about Mike and El sees that they’re both not happy and that this is not working so the conversation is very much needed because Mike sorting out his feelings and a breakup is the best for the both of them!
“I care about you both very much” , “you care about each other very much” -> those two fragments are almost identical in sentence structure and wording which is usually done when trying to emphasize a connection between two separate things! So I’m gonna take a wild guess and say that Mike and El care about each other in a similar way that Hop cares about both of them: platonically!! Which reminds me of “Care. But you don’t love me anymore?” It’s almost like Hop will suspect that Mike doesn’t love El but cares about her endlessly nonetheless! And because Mike cares about her so much he should break up with her because that’s the best for her as well!!
“So we can build an environment where we all feel comfortable, trusted and open to sharing our feelings”
Mike is so clearly included in this!! Hop doesn’t only want El to feel comfortable and trusted enough to be open to sharing her feelings with him, he wants for Mike to feel and do the same!!! Can y’all imagine what kind of cement block would’ve come crashing down on Mike if he had heard Hopper say this to him during s3?? A person representative of a father figure (not to mike but narratively) actively trying to arrange things in a way that makes Mike feel comfortable to talk about his feelings??? Mike is in desperate need of that heart-to-heart!!
I feel like this sentence is also very telling that it all rather leads to a Mike/Hopper heart-to-heart than to a El/Hopper heart-to-heart in s5 because while El does have internal struggles, her main struggles are external and she doesn’t seem too have a deeply rooted inner conflict that impedes her relationships with others. Mike on the other hand has exactly that! Mike has this internal conflict that leads to him constantly repressing his feelings which he’s shown to also not be comfortable talking about. Which makes me think of “I never really… unpacked.” The fact that Mike has never actually talked about his feelings is such a significant problem and as of right now it’s one of the things that stand at the forefront of his character!! Mike’s character arc can not be satisfyingly concluded without him talking about his feelings which means it’s inevitably coming in s5!! And Hopper’s letter kinda seems to tease that exact moment!
“[…]changing. And I guess, if I’m being really honest, that’s what scares me. I don’t want things to change. So I think maybe that’s why I came in here. To try and maybe stop that change. To turn back the clock. To make things go back to how they were.”
This is the part of Hopper’s speech that directly resonates with Mike which is emphasized by the camera being on him all throughout! Mike has realized something about himself that inevitably will bring a lot of change along with it and that’s what he’s afraid of! He doesn’t want things to change so he represses his feelings in order to not have to face the change that would come with embracing them!! He’s so scared of things to change for the worse that he pretends that things are exactly like how they were before he had that realization!
That’s just not how life works. It’s moving. Always moving wether you like it or not. And yeah, sometimes that’s painful. Sometimes it’s sad. And sometimes, it’s surprising. Happy.”
And this is the part of Hop’s speech that plays directly after the camera pans away from Mike! This is something Mike does not consider! Even less at the end of s4!! But it is most certainly something Mike would’ve needed to hear! That things can change for the better!!
The last sentence is also emphasized on. It feels like a big reveal before Hopper sums up his speech, which is why I believe that that’s where it’s headed. This is a piece of wisdom Hopper gives Mike! Mike will take it and life will be surprising. Happy. Change for the better!
There’s also actually a rainbow in the shot when Hop says “and sometimes, it’s surprising” and Mike coming out as gay would definitely be a “surprising” thing for the GA! [not for us though haha] And it will result in happiness 🌈
As I said in the beginning, Mike and Hopper’s little bonding moment at the end of s4 really set the path for their relationship to be better than it had been and I truly honestly think that a heart-to-heart/coming out is the only way to achieve that due to their very aggressive talk in the car in s3!! That was the furthest from what Hopper had intended to do so I think it would be really satisfying to have Hopper actually give that heart-to-heart which he had planned all along!!! Their relationship also really deserves a redemption from that car talk!
We also have to consider that Hopper was also in the shed when Mike opened up to save Will in s2 so Hop even suspecting something isn’t totally far fetched! A heart-to-heart would also open up the possibility for an insanely fantastic parallel/call back to Mike and Hopper’s scene at the end of s2:
Hopper:“it’s okay”
Mike:“No! Nothing about this is okay!”
-> There’s of course a big chance that this won’t happen!! But I honestly would love to see Mike coming out to Hopper!!! Something about it just feels so right and it makes sense too, so why not?
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vitamin-zeeth · 1 year
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Simon Fairchild is actually my best friend. If I were in tma I would be a vast avatar and we would go round fucking with people together by jumping off high places and disappearing. He gets me like nobody else fr that old man is my soulmate
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redshoes-blues · 2 years
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It’s the 90s and Mike and Will are in college together.
Mike loves Weezer and Will ruthlessly makes fun of him for it.
Mike has a cassette tape of the blue album that he deliberately hides from Music Snob™ Will Byers. He keeps it in his sock drawer or something. But one day Will needs a pair of socks because he walked to Mike’s place in the rain, so Mike tells him to go upstairs and grab a pair of clean ones. Well, Will does that and finds the secret cassette. 
And he just dies. Because Mike is always making fun of Weezer with Will, to the point that it has become a bit between the two of them. 
Will definitely doesn’t want Mike to be embarrassed about what he listens to, so the next day he sets out to make Mike a mixtape. This isn’t new behaviour by any means — they’re always exchanging mixtapes (Will takes after Jonathan’s New Wave + Post-Punk + some Grunge, Mike is heavily influenced by everyone around him).  But this time Will is on a mission.
He loads the tape up with the usual culprits: The Cure, My Bloody Valentine, Bowie, The Smashing Pumpkins, the Pixies, Nirvana, even the Cocteau Twins. 
So when he hands the tape to Mike, Mike is appreciative and excited to listen to Will’s finds. He knows whatever is on there will be good, because it takes some good shit to get the Will Byers music seal of approval. When he goes home after college he pops in the tape and cranks up the volume. He’s vibing to Will’s choices, impressed as usual, but then he hears it. The familiar kick of the drum at the start of Undone - The Sweater Song. And even though it’s stupid, his heart melts because oh my god Will knows him so well. 
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malhare · 5 months
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MIKE....
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blue-cookie-for-percy · 6 months
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Ok LISTEN Roderick and Madeline are giving Jaime/Cersei what with the cunty attitudes and codependency minus the incest especially with the "You two die together. You came into this world together, and you go out of it together."
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demadogs · 1 year
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i despise when people bring up how noah auditioned for theo for the goldfinch and they make it about byler like plz for the love of god try to separate finns characters if you hear that and only think “omg think of the byler edits!!1!1” i am so embarrassed it feels like youre shipping the actors not any characters
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