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julietookoff · 1 year
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February 2023 Tour
So some of the maintenance we did on our 11 year old RV:  replace part of a rotted slide-out floor, paint the yellowed ceiling fixtures, get front seat covers, a new driver’s side window, install a microwave over-the-stove, replace the 2 house batteries, "new" mattress and just scrub and touch-up everything.  We took it to Henkel's RV Sales August 9, knowing it was off-season for RV sales. . . it is still there!  We were hoping it would sell around the time of the big RV show in Tampa, but that's been a few weeks ago. . .  It’s still in good shape; as Shorty said, “Nobody’s got any money now.”
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Closing on our house was July 22, 2022.  We found a G.E. dishwasher at an outlet store in Clearwater, a G.E. stove at an estate sale, and fridge, washer and dryer at Lowe's.   By the time we got the mattresses, shower curtains, and things you need to live, our first night in the house was July 29.  We still had to commute to Holiday to finish working on the RV at our tired senior pace.  We decided we're going to die here, because we're too old to move again. . . we were so worn out.  But dang, we're loving it here!
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We continued commuting (about 35 miles each way) to see Shorty most weeks; a few times he came up to see us at the house.
The first two things I cooked in the new house were sheet pan chicken/taters/ corn on the cob and chicken parm on the sheet pan.  After 10 years with an RV oven, I had a heuge two-shelfer and two giant sheet pans I had been dying to use.  I had been collecting recipes from Julia Pacheco, my fav You-Tube home cook, for about a year.  To Corny's (and Bob's) delight, I have been cooking up a storm!  I also started a little canning.  I have wanted sodium-free beans for a long time - and the pressure canner takes them from dried, right outta the bag to squishy soft in 40 minutes.
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^stuffed Manicotti
Corny watched and I re-watched Breaking Bad on one of the many TVs we've found in storage auctions.  This one came with a guest subscription to Netflix.  We watched "Better Call Saul".  He was Corny's favorite character.  I've always loved Bryan Cranston.  Then we watched all the Jurassic Park movies.
Here's a little tour.  The walls are a very light grey; flooring is grey vinyl:
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^This is where I have my oatmeal with Piggie and Poco
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Master bed and bath:
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Life of Christ cross - all the little boxes were delivered to Shorty's house over the past year and accumulated in storage.  It was like Christmas, opening them all up and displaying them!
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Bedroom 1, Den and bath 2:
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Poco got a cute little 2' fence surrounding the patio.  Corny doesn't worry so much about him wandering away now.
Backyard visitors:  flock of 6 wild turkeys, pond turtle  
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Fledgling woodpecker chatted with me and clung to my leg for several minutes when I went to pick up my bedside dresser.
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Without gutters yet, when hurricane Ian headed our way in September, we made two trips to a county park to fill sandbags.  Some young, energetic people took pity on us old, slow-moving, moaning people and helped us haul the heavy bags to the Jeep.  Corny made a few bucks selling flashlights and lanterns he had gotten on clearance months ago, thanks to Ian.
In November I did a big 2-week Georgia county run.  I only got the Jeep stuck once, in mud covered by leaves.  A Lumpkin County Sheriff had me out within minutes.  I have about 1/3 of GA counties to visit:
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On Thanksgiving Shorty brought Bob up to the house.  They arrived at 5pm; the turkey finished at 7:30pm.  I made real gravy for the first time in decades.
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Corny had some kidney procedures in November, then found himself in the hospital for an infection in December.
Shorty told us on Dec. 1 he was moving "up north".  He heard rumors that Hyundai was hiring contractors to do his job so he promptly took his 3 weeks vacation.  When he went back to see if he was on the schedule, they were like "Who are you?".  He had worked there 10 1/2 years.  We were so glad they did what we couldn't - kick him in the pants so he would get a better job.  The little shit decided to move to Elkhart, Indiana to be able to afford a house of his own.  We miss him - my life has certainly changed.  I would plan all week what to bring him or ask him or tell him.  But we are very happy for him to be out on his own and experiencing real freedom for the first time.  He left for Elkhart Dec. 3 so now we just text.
We didn't have much notice, so Christmas was basically cancelled.  We went to Buffet City on Christmas Eve.   I made 4# of candied pecans to send up north and give to the neighbors and Liam - Shiloh Builders' Number Two.  They are building a house right next door which Chick, the owner of Shiloh, is going to live in part time.  They are using the garage as their office.  
I threw a tapestry over the TV for Christmas.
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Corny scored a home run and got me a Kitchen Aid accessory that peels, cores and slices an apple all at the same time!  I made my first apple pie since I was 20-something years old.  I was always too impatient to peel apples.
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We continue going to storage auctions.  The latest score was an entire tub of Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon cards.  I went through them all to check for the big buck$ cards.  There weren't any.  When I get back from BamaRama (GC9TB1Z) I will list them on Facebook Marketplace for prolly $20/box.  
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Life is Godd!
We fit out.
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linusbenjamin · 1 year
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tagged by lovely @tisdae thank you so much, this looks fun!
rules: shuffle your ‘on repeat’ playlist and post the first 10 tracks, then list 10 songs you really like, each by a different artist. then tag 10 people to do the same thing.
10 tracks from my “currently on repeat” playlist:
1. starman by david bowie / 2. louisiana woman mississippi man by conway twitty&loretta lynn / 3. something stupid by lola marsh (from better call saul) / 4. maroon by taylor swift / 5. budapest by george ezra / 6. black by pearl jam / 7. karma by taylor swift / 8. the end of the world by skeeter davis / 9. twilight time by the platters (thanks wandavision) / 10. goodbye yellow brick road by elton john
10 songs I really like (by 10 different artists):
1.you’re on your own kid by taylor swift / 2. something stupid by lola marsh / 3. a horse with no name by america / 4. no way down by the shins / 5. roadhouse blues by the doors / 6. da vinci riot police by george ezra / 7. have you ever seen the rain by creedence clearwater revival / 8. lua by bright eyes / 9. baby blue by badfinger / 10. porch by pearl jam
tagging whoever wants to participate! <3
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mymelodic-chapel · 3 months
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Creedence Clearwater Revival- Creedence Clearwater Revival (Swamp Rock, Blues Rock) Released: July 5, 1968 [Fantasy Records Records] Producer(s): Saul Zaentz, John Fogerty
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ronzombie · 1 year
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Songs that remind me of every single one of my f/os because why not
Romantic F/O
- Daryl Dixon - The Night We Met
- Otis Driftwood - Gorehound
- Xavier Thorpe - Tiny Dancer
- Kurt Kunkle - The Gummy Bear song (obviously)
- Carl Grimes - I Walk The Line
- Jacob Black - No Surprises
- The Joker - A Gangster's Wife
-Saul Goodman - Male Fantasy
-Nancy Wheeler - Thérèse
Queer Platonic F/O
- Dee Shvagenbagen - Two Punks in Love
- Sal Fisher - The Other Side Of Paradise
- Connor Murphy - Sincerely, Me
- Colin Gray - Friday I'm in Love
Parental F/O ( green = in-law ) , ( bold = biological )
- Lucifer Morningstar - Little Lion Man
- Eve - Habits
- Dale Dobson - Welcome Home, Son
- Billy Black - Sleeping on the Blacktop
- Mama Firefly - Mama's Broken Heart
- Mazikeen (step-mom) - WTF Are We Talking For
- Chloe Decker (step-mom) - Paradise: Coldplay
- Tucker McGee (God-father) - Blood (End Credits)
- Michonne Hawthorne (God-mother) - My Mom: Kimya Dawson
- Maggie Greene (adoptive) - The Light Behind Your Eyes
- Glenn Rhee (adoptive) - Yellow: Coldplay
- Slenderman (adoptive) - My Family: Migos
- Tim Wright (adoptive) - You're Gonna Go Far, Kid
-Bobby Singer - Home: Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros
Sibling F/O ( green = in-law ) , ( bold = biological )
- Violet Harmon - Creep
- Alyssa Foley - Fez's Interlude
- Heavy Shvagenbagen - Alien Boy: Oliver Tree
- Baby Firefly - House Of 1000 Corpses
- Tiny Firefly - Sick City
- Trixie Espinoza (step-sister) - Habits
-Rory Morningstar - Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)
- Toby Rogers (adoptive) - Constant Headache
Platonic F/O
- Dylan Lenivy - Psycho Killer: The Wrecks
-Ryan Erzahler - Mad World: Gary Jules
- Seth Clearwater - Boys Will Be Bugs
- Coraline Jones - Bruno is Orange
Enemy F/O ( italic = would fuck )
- PHILIP BLAKE - Dearly Loved
- Shane Walsh - Daddy: Korn
- Merle Dixon - Run Rabbit Run
Pet F/O
- Jangers Dobson - Fireflies: Owl City
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adondeirhoy · 2 years
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Hoy en la historia de la música https://ift.tt/W2kuxgc (For English see below) 28 de mayo de 1968 Creedence Clearwater Revival publicó su álbum debut homónimo. La banda era conocida como The Golliwogs. Saul Zaentz compró Fantasy Records, y le ofreció a la banda la oportunidad de grabar un álbum, con la condición de que cambiaran su nombre. El álbum incluyó una versión de “Suzie Q” (de 8 minutos, una canción de Dale Hawkinsq), y se convirtió en el único éxito Top 40, de CCR no escrito por John Fogerty. Comenta y dinos que quieres escuchar en @pontikradio y taguea a tus amigos. Escucha nuestra estación de radio 24/7 sin anuncios SALVA este POST para que puedas volver a leer esta info.⁠ Today in music history May 28, 1968 Creedence Clearwater Revival released their self-titled debut album. The band was known as The Golliwogs. Saul Zaentz bought Fantasy Records, and offered the band the opportunity to record an album, on the condition that they change their name. The album included a cover of "Suzie Q" (an 8-minute, Dale Hawkinsq song), and became CCR's only Top 40 hit not written by John Fogerty. Comment and tell us what you want to hear on @pontikradio and tag your friends. Listen to our radio station 24/7 without ads https://ift.tt/W2kuxgc ⁠ ⁠SAVE this POST so you can read this info again. ⁠------ #pontikradio #hoyenlamusica #thisdayinmusic #todayinmusichistory #oldies #oldiesbutgoodies #oldiesmusic⁠ #music #musica #retromusic #musictime #musiclegend #CreedenceClearwaterRevival #FantasyRecords #SaulZaentz #JohnFogerty #TomFogerty #StuCook #DougClifford #CCR @CCR #sixties #rocknews https://ift.tt/TlPnaZF
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meduseld · 3 years
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Waiiiiiiiiiiiit a second. Did Stephenie Meyer accidentally make an M/M pairing canon. Like, you know Life and Death: Twilight Reimagined? She genderswapped everyone BUT Bella/Beau's parents. That way all the canon pairings still happen and SM could keep it hetero. But SM. You made Sue Clearwater a dude: Saul Clearwater. And if canon pairings remain, and the events will proceed roughly the same..... Charlie gets to hook up with a dilf and I for one am happy for him
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Jotting down basic ideas for chapter 3 of Done Broke Loose (sorry guys Jules does NOT make an appearance in this fic, though I’m sure she will get mentioned a few times)
Vampire vs. Wolves baseball anyone?? (probably just a brief mention, haven’t worked out all the details yet. So please don’t get your hopes up, just in case)
it’s about 2 and half to three years AFTER the end of Breaking Dawn.....that is not a typo. Not only does Lee and his family get transplanted from one world to another but also fast forwarded....
The Clearwater family is about to grow even more (Holly and Harry MAY get mentions soon-ish)
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panlight · 2 years
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Hitting you up with another Life and Death ask.
Why do you think Meyer chose to keep Charlie as a man but have Billy become Bonnie? (Same with Renee).
The Volturis, I get since they come from ancient European eras where men were philosophically believed/practically supported to be the ones with the decision-making power. But to me it feels like a female Charlie/male Renee would have worked and would have been different despite Meyer's desire for things to not be so different from Bellaverse. We still could have had a depressed but managing "Carla", aka, our resident police chief and our flighty "Raymond" who couldn't stand being in a rainy small town and wanted to go sky diving. These things dont feel that gender exclusive for the early 2000s.
Billy could still be Bonnie I guess. I dont know a lot about the Quileutes' social organization of the genders on the modern age but I have the vague impression that women hold a bit more esteem and have positions of leadership like men do. Or maybe I'm horribly offbase?
The answer she initially gave was that she couldn't imagine "Raymond" getting custody of Beau at the time. She said that mothers pretty much always got custody, therefor Beau would have lived with "Carla" in Forks and it would have changed the story too much.
I mean, eh, I don't know that I buy that. Certainly there's truth to what she said but also like, this a story about vampires and shapeshifters and psychic powers so "a dad got custody in the late 80s" isn't THAT out there. Although I suppose it does make more sense that if the father were going to get custody it would be more likely to be stable Charlie vs flighty Renee than flighty Raymond getting custody over stable Carla.
But yeah I do think there are still a lot of gender expectations baked into the story, as much as she said the point of the project was to prove that Bella wasn't weak because she was a girl, but because she was human. That point is undermined by the changes she made in backstories. Some are fine. Carine just isn't going to be able to work as a doctor the same way Carlisle was back in the 1700s. But there's no reason Beau can't like the same books Bella does, or that Earnest couldn't have been abused by his wife and taken their newborn baby to safety only for the baby to die or whatever. Royal and Rosalie's deaths are very different. That stuff didn't need to change but did based on ideas SM has about what men and women experience. Re: Bonnie Black, I think I remember reading some comment from SM about how something might happen between her and Charlie. Because obviously Charlie can't get with the surviving Clearwater parent (Saul) now because that's another man and SM wouldn't write that. Although given her takes on gender, I wonder if she'd even have Holly Clearwater die of a heart attack, or is that a "manly" way to die and she'd change it?
In the present day, the Quileutes have a five member tribal council who are elected for staggered three year terms. I believe the current council is five men, but there isn't any reason a woman couldn't be elected, and the General Manager of the tribe and Operations Manager are both women. So Bonnie could certainly have still been a leader in the community, no problem.
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rolloroberson · 3 years
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That time when John Fogerty was sued for plagiarizing John Fogerty…
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Fogerty v. Fantasy, Inc.
Saul Zaentz, owner of Fantasy Records claimed that "The Old Man Down the Road" shared the same chorus as "Run Through the Jungle", a song from Fogerty's days with Creedence Clearwater Revival years before. (Fogerty had relinquished copyrights and publishing rights of his Creedence songs to Zaentz and Fantasy, in exchange for release from his contractual obligations to them.) Zaentz sued (Fantasy, Inc. v. Fogerty) but the defendant Fogerty ultimately prevailed when he showed that the two songs were whole, separate and distinct compositions. Bringing his guitar to the witness stand, he played excerpts from both songs, demonstrating that many songwriters (himself included) have distinctive styles that can make different compositions sound similar to less discerning ears.
After prevailing as defendant, Fogerty asked the court to require Zaentz to pay for the attorney fees he had spent to defend himself against the copyright infringement claim. In such (copyright) cases, the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit required prevailing defendants seeking recompense to show that the original suit was frivolous or made in bad faith. This case, Fogerty v. Fantasy, Inc., became precedent when the U.S. Supreme Court (1993) overturned lower court rulings and decided that Fogerty could be awarded attorneys' fees without having to show that Zaentz's original suit was frivolous. The lower courts then decided that Fogerty should have his attorney fees, totalling $1,347,519.15.
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30000songs · 5 years
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#246 - Bayou Country - Creedence Clearwater Revival
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Okay John Fogerty I’m sorry. You totally could have filled Saul Zaentz’s insane contract if you had a little more luck.
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diceriadelluntore · 4 years
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Storia Di Musica #130 - Creedence Clearwater Revival, Bayou Country \ Green River \ Willy And The Poor Boys, 1969
Se il 1969 è stato un anno leggendario, per loro lo è forse ancora di più. Quasi per caso infatti nel 1967 Saul Zaentz, che comprò la casa discografica Fantasy, chiese a questo gruppo di ragazzi californiani di incidere un disco: la Fantasy già aveva messo sotto contratto John Fogerty (chitarra e voce principale, e strumenti a fiato e percussioni), Doug Clifford (batteria) e Stu Cook (basso e cori), a cui poco dopo si aggiunse il fratello di Fogerty, Tom (chitarra ritmica e cori) che si chiamavano The Blue Velvets. Incisero un brano, Cast Your Fate To The Wind, che fu un successo perchè divenne sigla di un programma della National Educational Television e cambiarono nome in The Golliwong (dal nome di una bambola protagonista di show televisivi alla NET) . Poi John Fogerty e Stu Cook partono per il servizio militare e la band si scioglie. Zaentz si ritrova sotto contratto i Golliwong, che però una volta riunitisi cambiano nome definitivamente: dal nome di un caro amico di John Fogerty, Credence Newball, prendono Creedence (scritto con due “e” per assonanza con creed, fede, credo), poi da una spot di una birra lo slogan Clear Water e siccome si erano riuniti Revival: Creedence Clearwater Revival. Quella che sarà una delle più formidabili band del rock americano esordì con l’omonimo Creedence Clearwater Revival nel 1968: ci sono ancora echi di psichedelia, sebbene sin da subito il gruppo punti su tre cardini differenti: la voce potente e inconfondibile di John Fogerty, lo stile che si rifà ad una rivisitazione del country e della musica del Sud degli Stati Uniti, ma soprattutto la fiera appartenenza alla cultura bayou e alla musica swamp ( i bayou sono delle zone paludose del Sud degli Stati Uniti, la swamp music nacque in Louisiana agli inizi degli anni ‘50, ed è considerata la mamma della roots music che è attiva ancora oggi). Nell’esordio, più che i brani originali, si ricordano le splendide cover di I Put A Spell On You di Screamin’ Jay Hawkins e quella acida e storica di Suzi Q di Dale Hawkins. A fine 1968 sono ancora in studio, e a febbraio del 1969 esce il primo disco di questo trittico che regalerà ai CCR 3 album top ten tutti milionari in vendite, 4 numeri 2 nelle classifiche dei singoli e altri brani in top ten nelle B-sides. Bayou Country è il disco di Proud Mary, primo grande successo della band e in seguito una della canzoni più coverizzate della storia (ricordo quella di Ike &Tina Turner, che fece la fortuna del duo): lo stile prende forma e spicca la voce di Fogerty nelle bellissime Born On The Bayou, che è una dichiarazione di intenti, Graveyard Train, Keep On Chooglin’. Il ritmo della loro creatività è infernale e c’è l’esigenza di scrivere e pubblicare nuovo materiale: registrato a Marzo, Green River esce ad Agosto del 1969: contiene la title track che è uno dei loro cavalli di battaglia, e che diventerà una delle canzoni più conosciute del loro catalogo, a cui si aggiungono gli echi western di Tombstone Shadow, la gemma di Bad Moon Rising, la cover di The Night Time Is The Right Time ( classico del soul di Nappy Brown del 1957) e la bellissima Wrote A Song For Everyone, ma si ricorda anche la bellissima Lodi: piccola cittadina della California dove Fogerty nacque (ma non visse che pochi giornì lì) racconta la crisi esistenziale di un cantautore bloccato lì perchè perso e senza un soldo, e il ritornello “Oh Lord, stuck in Lodi again” (pronunciato “low-die”, lento morire) venne usato dalla cittadina come slogan per farsi conoscere. Al culmine della popolarità, vanno anche a Woodstock, dove però non concedono alla pubblicazione la loro esibizione (uscirà solo nel 2019, a 50 anni dal quel 17 Agosto del 1969 quando si esibirono al Festival). Dopo una incredibile e seguitissima esibizione all’Ed Sullivan Show, a Novembre del 1969 esce Willy And The Poor Boys: per il titolo, Fogerty si ispirò all’orsetto Pooh, e in Down On The Corner (ennesimo singolo in classifica) immagina questo piccolo sgangherato gruppo di musicisti di strada che suona agli angoli delle strade per un nichelino; nel disco altri classici come Fortunate Son, sarcastica e sferzante invettiva contro i privilegiati che non partivano per il Vietnam (It ain’t me, it ain’t me, I ain’t no senator’s son, son\It ain’t me, it ain’t me, I ain’t no fortunate one, no), Cottonfields di Leadbelly, The Midnight Special, rilettura della canzone che parla della prigionia dei campi del sud, e addirittura due strumentali, Poorboy Shuffle e lo splendido Side O’ The Road. Se proprio vogliamo continuare, Cosmo’s Factory del 1970 ha addirittura più hit e classici (tra cui Travelin Band, Looking Out My Backdoor, Run Through The Jungle, Up Around The Bend, Who’ll Stop The Rain, Long As I Can See The Light e la lunga e celeberrima rilettura di I Heard It Throught The Grapevine) a dimostrazione della incredibile facilità di scrivere grandi pezzi (brevi, incisivi, cantati e suonati benissimo) di una delle band più vincenti di quel periodo meraviglioso.
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the-summer-sun-au · 4 years
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In the kitchen at work. This pig reminds me of the pig in the song, 'Vanz Kant Danz' by John Fogerty .
The song title refers to Saul Zaentz, Fogerty's former boss at Fantasy Records, who famously tried to sue Fogerty for plagiarizing himself (specifically his Creedence Clearwater Revival material, to which Zaentz held the rights)
So yeah Saul Zaentz was a Greedy pig!
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ketterle replied to your post “Do you ever just lie down on your couch, gaze up...”
if i could tenderly kiss the person who was in charge of the music on the show, i would. it’s so good! (apart from a few oddly anachronistic choices, but hey, the rest is nothing short of iconic & showstopping. also including the character playlists 💕)
I would absolutely love to shake the hand of music supervisor Thomas Golubić, of SuperMusicVision! I looked up the rest of his credits just now, and according to SuperMusicVision’s tunefind page, he also did the music for Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul (which I haven’t seen but stand up, combined Halt-The Americans-Leftovers-Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul nation, I KNOW YOU EXIST!), and also -- wait for it -- he was the music supervisor for Six Feet Under. !!!
Which maybe sounds like me name-dropping peak tv just to be smug but I swear I’m not, I’m fangirling because the work is consistent?! He works mostly on character dramas and dramedies that are known for their acting, writing, and for being ‘sad’ anti-hero type shows, he apparently makes playlists for a lot of his characters as part of his process, and it’s just so clear that understands what this type of show and its characters need? 
Ages ago I read an interview where he talked about how Gordon listens to Creedence Clearwater Revival because that was what he listened to in the ‘70s, when his life felt good, before Dallas and the failure of the Symphonic and getting stuck at Cardiff and with tons of debt, and I guess, the tl;dr here is that I haven’t been able to stop stanning since!
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makistar2018 · 5 years
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John Fogerty on the Taylor Swift Imbroglio: ‘I Know Exactly How It Feels’
The veteran rocker had deja vu in hearing of Swift's battles with her former label, recalling his struggle to win his Creedence publishing.
By CHRIS WILLMAN July 8, 2019
When we think of public battles between major recording artists and their current or former label heads, we think… well, as of late June 2019, we’ve thought Taylor Swift and Big Machine. But for more than four decades prior to that, everyone’s first go-to was John Fogerty versus Fantasy Records chief Saul Zaentz. There’s plenty about these two situations that is different — the Creedence Clearwater Revival singer/songwriter was going to battle over his publishing, not his master recordings — but there’s also enough in common that music biz aficionados with long memories couldn’t help but hear echoes of Fogerty’s decades-old struggles in Swift’s fresh laments about not being able to own her own work.
Variety wanted to see if Fogerty himself is tracking the parallels. Getting him on the phone from a tour date in Norway, we weren’t disappointed. An edited transcript of our conversation about Swift follows.
Have you followed Swift’s career or her recent travails?
I remember first riding with a 15-year-old Taylor Swift in an elevator in Detroit, and I’ve loved her and her songwriting and her records ever since. She’s a great role model for my daughter and kids in general, and she’s always projected that she’s strong and not going to get knocked down by a slight wind. When I first heard this news, I felt really empty inside, just really sad, because I know exactly how it feels, you know. It was almost personal, almost like she was a member of the family, because we’ve followed her career pretty closely. She’s a wonderful artist and she deserves to be able to continue that without having a heart full of sad feelings. I didn’t really even think of myself at all, at first. And then after about a few minutes had gone by, I just thought to myself, “Somewhere, Saul Zaentz is laughing.
”I sure recognize this situation. Because I’ve had that happen to me in a very similar way. What I fought for was my publishing – the ownership of the songs I had written. Because I was in a band, and there were four of us, and we hardly ever got along in the later years, the idea of us trying to get together and get our masters back (was unthinkable). So I was fighting for my songs, but it’s kind of the same thing. I’m appalled that she really wasn’t offered the chance to buy them, because her money would have been just as good as the next guy’s money.
Her lawyer (Don Passman) said that she was not given a chance to buy it. And I believe that statement. I don’t believe the cover-up PR spin doctors on the other side trying to say that Taylor turned down the opportunity, because there’s probably nothing more on this earth that she would want more than those masters. As in my case, it’s not so much about the money as it is about owning your children. After such a long period of having so much of the benefit go to somebody else, in the back of your mind you think that you’re finally going to be given the chance to own what you created. It’s only right. In my case, I’ve waited 50 years already. I’ve got about another five years to go of just waiting it out. 
So you have it calculated down to the moment when your publishing rights will revert to you?
Yeah, by law … My songs seemed to fall under an earlier copyright law, which was changed somewhere around 1973, I think. That’s why you hear people now being quoted talking about 35 years for their masters, but before 1970, that law was not in place. The publishing law was that the first publisher would own the publishing for 28 years, with an option —  their option — to renew one time. So you add those two together and that’s 56 years. So here we are. [Laughs.]
And Taylor may have to wait a long time for her masters. In this world of social media, maybe things can be more immediate than they were for me. As you probably know, at one point my frustration and sadness was so great that I stopped playing those songs for quite some time — about 25 years. By the way, I don’t recommend that to anyone. [Laughs.] It’s a horrible career move. It’s terrible. But that is indeed what I did. I still don’t have my songs back. So I can’t say that that strategy was a good one.
This feels like war, in a way, where each side thinks of the other as the instigator. You hear rumblings from the Big Machine or Scooter Braun camps that any future negotiation over the masters just became more unlikely because she went so public with this. Does that strike a chord with your situation?
In the court case that I had against Saul about the slandering case, my lawyer asked him when he was on the stand, “Isn’t it true, Mr. Zaentz, that you have a vendetta against John Fogerty?” And before it came out of my lawyer’s mouth, Saul had screamed at the top of his lungs, “It’s an answer to a vendetta!” You could see steam and smoke coming out of his ears. [Zaentz died in 2014.]
In a situation like this, the label and artist each tend to feel like they are responsible for the other’s success and deserve payback for it. Did Taylor make Big Machine, or did Big Machine make Taylor? You were in a similar situation, as very much the artistic figurehead and key success story of your label.
I had two meetings at Bill Graham’s house with Saul, and Saul said a few things that were a little not in reality. One of the things he said at some point was, “Well, we discovered Creedence.” They were a tiny little jazz label. Saul, before he managed to purchase the label with some financial backers, was the sales representative at Fantasy, and so we knew him through that. But there was absolutely zero artistic input or anything like that. Other than Vince Guaraldi and “Cast Your Fate to the Wind” in the middle 60s, they had never had a hit record until “Susie Q,” which, while I didn’t write it, sold about a half million records. And then even at that point, all of us were at a very small level of show biz. And if it hadn’t been for someone kind of turning everything on its end and starting to write some great songs and make some great records out of them…
As everyone with a brain knows, it is the artist. All the lawyers and the PR men and the rest can stand around and take credit for what’s going on. But without the artist, nobody’s going anywhere. And that’s true in Taylor’s case too, obviously, even though she was quite young… Think of all the numbers of people on the planet, and there are just a precious few who are gifted enough as artists to create things that get the public excited enough to want to spend money, especially in the numbers that Taylor has enjoyed for the last 15 years. People like managers and label execs and all that seem to take that part for granted when they’re making these sort of statements. If they only could have a little bit of humility and realize how rare somebody like Taylor Swift is in the universe. And she’s quite young, still. Twenty-five years from now, she’ll utilize even more of what she’s got.
Would you have any advice for her, based on your experience in being part of a public struggle like this?
Boy. Well, as I already mentioned, I wouldn’t stop singing the songs. That’s something I did, and I don’t advise that. That really harmed my career. That’s something I learned. But I did it for me, you know. That was a point of self-pride and dignity, I guess, and that’s why I did that. I did the best I could with the hand I was dealt.
But I would say that she seems, especially in this world of social media, I’m quite certain that 99% of her fans are on her side. The main thing is to have a support group. It’s horrible to have to do this alone. Especially because the name-calling starts, and when people run out of the truth, they start trying to attack your character. I think my advice would be to keep doing what you’re doing. I think her fans want her to stick up for herself, because she always has. … I’m sure she could have raised the money to have this happen. It sounds pretty spiteful that Scott (Borchetta) wanted to sell the label to her only real enemy, as far as I know. He was the manager of Kanye, and Kanye did some pretty dreadful things publicly to Taylor.
Her side has said the only deal she was offered to get her masters back was to basically…
“Give us more!” [Laughs.] I remember early on, way back, Saul Zaentz offered to get us into this offshore tax plan, and he sat at his desk and said, “Well, I’m going to get you into this plan, and in return you guys will sign a 10-year contract.” I took that back to the guys in Creedence and I said, “Uh, I don’t think this is a very good plan. He wants us to sign for 10 years so that we can have a small percentage of ourselves.”
When you stopped doing your old Creedence material for all those years, was that a matter of pride, or was it because you did think it would force their hand and finally get them to give you back your publishing?
I think it was more of a feeling that they’ve done this horrible thing to me, and gee, if nothing changes, then why would I keep doing the same thing? In other words, if you go in to negotiate with somebody, but you keep giving them everything that they want, well, there’s no pressure on them to do anything to change. It became very much a point of valor. Plus I felt that if I was out there screaming “Proud Mary,” I just thought I would probably end up in a bar somewhere, having a gig playing for 10 people, and being a complete screaming alcoholic and insane and living a horrible life. I didn’t really know a way out, but it seemed to me if I kept performing those songs in front of people, and hating myself more and more for doing it, that there would never be a positive end to that.
She would likely never do anything as radical as you did in excising old songs from the setlist, but it might influence how many she includes, if this isn’t resolved and she’s not enjoying the thought of singing them live.
Yeah, you’re very angry inside. It’s like somebody twisting the knife every day. That’s probably why I felt so empty when I first heard the news. And I’m not smart enough to know what her way out is. It would be great if people kind of outside of her circle maybe decided to help. I went to Bill Graham. I thought that he would be a fair witness, like in the old “Stranger in a Strange Land” book — a person that would be respected by both sides and could figure out the answer. But sadly, that didn’t work out either.
Good people think, “Wow, these two neighbors are just screaming at each other every single day. The rest of us should get together and figure out a way to mediate.” Perhaps her lawyer can get some people to actually get in there and mediate and try to actually find a solution for the right reason — because it’s the right thing to do. [Laughs.] I’ve just said something so blazingly unknown to the music business, but it’s the way us normal people think.
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John Fogerty on the Taylor Swift Imbroglio: ‘I Know Exactly How It Feels’
The veteran rocker had deja vu in hearing of Swift's battles with her former label, recalling his struggle to win his Creedence publishing.
By CHRIS WILLMAN
When we think of public battles between major recording artists and their current or former label heads, we think… well, as of late June 2019, we’ve thought Taylor Swift and Big Machine. But for more than four decades prior to that, everyone’s first go-to was John Fogerty versus Fantasy Records chief Saul Zaentz. There’s plenty about these two situations that is different — the Creedence Clearwater Revival singer/songwriter was going to battle over his publishing, not his master recordings — but there’s also enough in common that music biz aficionados with long memories couldn’t help but hear echoes of Fogerty’s decades-old struggles in Swift’s fresh laments about not being able to own her own work.
Variety wanted to see if Fogerty himself is tracking the parallels. Getting him on the phone from a tour date in Norway, we weren’t disappointed. An edited transcript of our conversation about Swift follows.
Have you followed Swift’s career or her recent travails?
I remember first riding with a 15-year-old Taylor Swift in an elevator in Detroit, and I’ve loved her and her songwriting and her records ever since. She’s a great role model for my daughter and kids in general, and she’s always projected that she’s strong and not going to get knocked down by a slight wind. When I first heard this news, I felt really empty inside, just really sad, because I know exactly how it feels, you know. It was almost personal, almost like she was a member of the family, because we’ve followed her career pretty closely. She’s a wonderful artist and she deserves to be able to continue that without having a heart full of sad feelings. I didn’t really even think of myself at all, at first. And then after about a few minutes had gone by, I just thought to myself, “Somewhere, Saul Zaentz is laughing.”
I sure recognize this situation. Because I’ve had that happen to me in a very similar way. What I fought for was my publishing – the ownership of the songs I had written. Because I was in a band, and there were four of us, and we hardly ever got along in the later years, the idea of us trying to get together and get our masters back (was unthinkable). So I was fighting for my songs, but it’s kind of the same thing. I’m appalled that she really wasn’t offered the chance to buy them, because her money would have been just as good as the next guy’s money.
Her lawyer (Don Passman) said that she was not given a chance to buy it. And I believe that statement. I don’t believe the cover-up PR spin doctors on the other side trying to say that Taylor turned down the opportunity, because there’s probably nothing more on this earth that she would want more than those masters. As in my case, it’s not so much about the money as it is about owning your children. After such a long period of having so much of the benefit go to somebody else, in the back of your mind you think that you’re finally going to be given the chance to own what you created. It’s only right. In my case, I’ve waited 50 years already. I’ve got about another five years to go of just waiting it out.
So you have it calculated down to the moment when your publishing rights will revert to you?
Yeah, by law … My songs seemed to fall under an earlier copyright law, which was changed somewhere around 1973, I think. That’s why you hear people now being quoted talking about 35 years for their masters, but before 1970, that law was not in place. The publishing law was that the first publisher would own the publishing for 28 years, with an option — their option — to renew one time. So you add those two together and that’s 56 years. So here we are. [Laughs.]
And Taylor may have to wait a long time for her masters. In this world of social media, maybe things can be more immediate than they were for me. As you probably know, at one point my frustration and sadness was so great that I stopped playing those songs for quite some time — about 25 years. By the way, I don’t recommend that to anyone. [Laughs.] It’s a horrible career move. It’s terrible. But that is indeed what I did. I still don’t have my songs back. So I can’t say that that strategy was a good one.
This feels like war, in a way, where each side thinks of the other as the instigator. You hear rumblings from the Big Machine or Scooter Braun camps that any future negotiation over the masters just became more unlikely because she went so public with this. Does that strike a chord with your situation?
In the court case that I had against Saul about the slandering case, my lawyer asked him when he was on the stand, “Isn’t it true, Mr. Zaentz, that you have a vendetta against John Fogerty?” And before it came out of my lawyer’s mouth, Saul had screamed at the top of his lungs, “It’s an answer to a vendetta!” You could see steam and smoke coming out of his ears. [Zaentz died in 2014.]
In a situation like this, the label and artist each tend to feel like they are responsible for the other’s success and deserve payback for it. Did Taylor make Big Machine, or did Big Machine make Taylor? You were in a similar situation, as very much the artistic figurehead and key success story of your label.
I had two meetings at Bill Graham’s house with Saul, and Saul said a few things that were a little not in reality. One of the things he said at some point was, “Well, we discovered Creedence.” They were a tiny little jazz label. Saul, before he managed to purchase the label with some financial backers, was the sales representative at Fantasy, and so we knew him through that. But there was absolutely zero artistic input or anything like that. Other than Vince Guaraldi and “Cast Your Fate to the Wind” in the middle 60s, they had never had a hit record until “Susie Q,” which, while I didn’t write it, sold about a half million records. And then even at that point, all of us were at a very small level of show biz. And if it hadn’t been for someone kind of turning everything on its end and starting to write some great songs and make some great records out of them…
As everyone with a brain knows, it is the artist. All the lawyers and the PR men and the rest can stand around and take credit for what’s going on. But without the artist, nobody’s going anywhere. And that’s true in Taylor’s case too, obviously, even though she was quite young… Think of all the numbers of people on the planet, and there are just a precious few who are gifted enough as artists to create things that get the public excited enough to want to spend money, especially in the numbers that Taylor has enjoyed for the last 15 years. People like managers and label execs and all that seem to take that part for granted when they’re making these sort of statements. If they only could have a little bit of humility and realize how rare somebody like Taylor Swift is in the universe. And she’s quite young, still. Twenty-five years from now, she’ll utilize even more of what she’s got.
Would you have any advice for her, based on your experience in being part of a public struggle like this?
Boy. Well, as I already mentioned, I wouldn’t stop singing the songs. That’s something I did, and I don’t advise that. That really harmed my career. That’s something I learned. But I did it for me, you know. That was a point of self-pride and dignity, I guess, and that’s why I did that. I did the best I could with the hand I was dealt.
But I would say that she seems, especially in this world of social media, I’m quite certain that 99% of her fans are on her side. The main thing is to have a support group. It’s horrible to have to do this alone. Especially because the name-calling starts, and when people run out of the truth, they start trying to attack your character. I think my advice would be to keep doing what you’re doing. I think her fans want her to stick up for herself, because she always has. … I’m sure she could have raised the money to have this happen. It sounds pretty spiteful that Scott (Borchetta) wanted to sell the label to her only real enemy, as far as I know. He was the manager of Kanye, and Kanye did some pretty dreadful things publicly to Taylor.
Her side has said the only deal she was offered to get her masters back was to basically…
“Give us more!” [Laughs.] I remember early on, way back, Saul Zaentz offered to get us into this offshore tax plan, and he sat at his desk and said, “Well, I’m going to get you into this plan, and in return you guys will sign a 10-year contract.” I took that back to the guys in Creedence and I said, “Uh, I don’t think this is a very good plan. He wants us to sign for 10 years so that we can have a small percentage of ourselves.”
When you stopped doing your old Creedence material for all those years, was that a matter of pride, or was it because you did think it would force their hand and finally get them to give you back your publishing?
I think it was more of a feeling that they’ve done this horrible thing to me, and gee, if nothing changes, then why would I keep doing the same thing? In other words, if you go in to negotiate with somebody, but you keep giving them everything that they want, well, there’s no pressure on them to do anything to change. It became very much a point of valor. Plus I felt that if I was out there screaming “Proud Mary,” I just thought I would probably end up in a bar somewhere, having a gig playing for 10 people, and being a complete screaming alcoholic and insane and living a horrible life. I didn’t really know a way out, but it seemed to me if I kept performing those songs in front of people, and hating myself more and more for doing it, that there would never be a positive end to that.
She would likely never do anything as radical as you did in excising old songs from the setlist, but it might influence how many she includes, if this isn’t resolved and she’s not enjoying the thought of singing them live.
Yeah, you’re very angry inside. It’s like somebody twisting the knife every day. That’s probably why I felt so empty when I first heard the news. And I’m not smart enough to know what her way out is. It would be great if people kind of outside of her circle maybe decided to help. I went to Bill Graham. I thought that he would be a fair witness, like in the old “Stranger in a Strange Land” book — a person that would be respected by both sides and could figure out the answer. But sadly, that didn’t work out either.
Good people think, “Wow, these two neighbors are just screaming at each other every single day. The rest of us should get together and figure out a way to mediate.” Perhaps her lawyer can get some people to actually get in there and mediate and try to actually find a solution for the right reason — because it’s the right thing to do. [Laughs.] I’ve just said something so blazingly unknown to the music business, but it’s the way us normal people think.
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