#sebaciel meta

[midnightasteris]

The theme of love in Black Butler

The irony of the Book of Murder side chapter is that Sebastian was portrayed as the "Ice King" which is an allegory to his supposed lack of emotion towards Ciel, that he only stays at his side and protects him because of the contract, and nothing more. The irony is that he no longer protects him just because of the contract. Sebastian has actually grown to care for, maybe even love, Ciel. But since he's a demon, he would deem those feelings impossible. He is supposedly just a "heartless beast", or so he thinks.

The theme of the "heart of ice" is also seen in the song "Hallucination" Sebastian sings to Ciel in the second musical, "My once frozen heart is now burning and melting as I close my eyes"(source). Sebastian addresses that those growing feelings are too silly for him to even think about. He is aware that his heart is melting for his master, but he always dismisses it, until it's "too foolish to whisper" and "too late to conceal". The story is more than just a corrupted soul obtaining his revenge. It's about a demon learning to love a human.

#sebaciel #black butler #ciel phantomhive #sebastian michaelis #kuroshitsuji #Sebaciel meta #kuroshitsuji meta #Sebastian is so in love with Ciel #and in the most recent chapter it just became more evident #midnightasteris #OTP: monochrome no kiss #Hallucination #BOM side chapter

[lunerium]

Hello dear person. I hope I don't bother you… I come messaging you because I have no one else to talk to about it … I came to really like the couple between Ciel and Sebastian but it's hard to find content about them And I did not read the manga yet I wanted to know if there was Sebaciel content in the public arc school ? And if according to you, what was the arc that had the best content about them ?

Hello again, @canonicallytrue heh. I'm sorry I haven't answered all your asks, but finally, I've had some time to start writing.

I answered your question about which arc had the most sebaciel in it, in this post.

But your question about the sebaciel moments in the public school arc did catch my eye. After all, the new season is still being released, and there are many sebaciel moments that we have yet to see.

Their "first meeting" is notably Sebaciel. Sebastian is completely in his role as "Professor Michaelis", and pretends that it is the first time he has seen Ciel. It is an amusing interaction between the two because they are just going to pretend they don't know each other. Also, the fact that this entire arc is filled with shojo tropes, and this is one of the first shojo moments we see. Where the heroine falls, and the love interest offers a helping hand.

Onto the next moment, or rather, moments. We have their late-night rendez vous. They are so intimate, so clandestine, that perhaps even a rumor got spread that Phantomhive was always in Mr. Michaelis' office late at night. I would give anything to know what the students truly thought about that.

First, this rather erotic pose Ciel does for Sebastian. He got a little too caught up in his role as a student, he refers to him as a professor even in private, heh. The pose he is doing, as if attempting to seduce him, doesn't help much either.

Adding this little exchange between the two. And yes, Yana surrounded them in shojo bubbles :)

A Sebaciel moment that became iconic throughout the fandom: The Library Scene. The famous moment where Sebastian urgently pinned Ciel against the bookshelves, late at night, while covering his mouth. Not only that, but the scene right before that, where Sebastian carefully sneaks a secret note to Ciel while he is teaching the class. A moment truly worthy of a romance novel.

Onto our next moment: When Ciel "thanked" Sebastian for recommending him to the team. Yes, Professor Michaelis recommended Ciel to the team, and Ciel had to thank him. But was it truly necessary to create a whole shojo scene? Ciel runs into Sebastian's arms like two lovers seeing each other after being apart for a long time, the way he so genuinely smiles, and lightly blushes. Also, the shojo bubbles all around them. Yana intended to make them canon from the very start. Those two students walking past them must've thought these two had a romantic affair going on.

The way Sebastian so tenderly and lovingly looked at Ciel here, with genuine affection. This was not acted. This was truly romantic. And also, he carried him bridal style all across the field, while letting Ciel rest his head on his shoulder. I screamed a little during this scene.

Sebastian, again, looked at Ciel with the most tender eyes. And then, he made his pastries. He truly was showing his romantic side a little too much in this arc, huh. Pastry-making and acts of service are his love language. Even Ciel is impressed at Sebastian's efficiency, but Sebastian only wants to see a smile on his master's face <3

The last and most cathartic Sebaciel moment of all, is when Sebastian absolutely loses it over thinking that Undertaker might steal Ciel away from him. Just the thought of it, he was losing it. He even imagined Ciel being stolen by the Undertaker like his damsel in distress, surrounded by rose petals. And then he admits to Ciel, that the thought of him getting stolen away is just something that he cannot afford. He cannot even afford to fathom it. He has gone completely and obsessively feral over Ciel, to the point of delirium.

And that concludes this little blog, I hope these Sebaciel moments made your day :) Bonus:

The Season 4 ED, although not part of the school arc by itself, it is part of the fourth season. I will never grow tired of it. It is just so romantically beautiful.

#sebaciel #sebastian michaelis #black butler #ciel phantomhive #proship #kuroshtisuji #kuroshitsuji meta #meta #kuroships #Season 4 #public school arc #sebaciel meta

[thatgirlonstage]

Okay I’m too tired to keep listening to Dark Heir but I’ve got a whole bus ride home so I’m going to spin Black Butler thoughts at you all.

(Idk how coherent this is, I’m sorry if it’s rambly my brain is SO dead but it wants to Talk so)

I’m thinking about… the gradual build of Sebastian’s fear that he could actually lose Ciel, as we go:

The asthma attack in Circus Arc: not ultimately serious, but a danger to Ciel’s wellbeing Sebastian had not been aware of and cannot easily fix

The fight on the Campania, where Sebastian is very seriously injured himself, to the point where he’s in danger of losing Ciel to Undertaker because he can’t physically stop him from being taken,

Which leads into THIS fucking moment in school arc:

which is entirely fueled by Sebastian’s fear that Undertaker will snatch Ciel out from under him, AGAIN, because he did it before

AND THEN GREEN WITCH ARC HAPPENS, where Sebastian gets within literal minutes of losing Ciel to the gas, and WOULD HAVE if Sieglinde hadn’t been there or hadn’t been willing to help them

And still in Green Witch Arc, even AFTER Ciel has physically survived, Sebastian nearly loses him anyway because he backslides so dramatically into a PTSD episode that it nearly voids their contract

All of which is why by the time you get to the Blue Cult Arc, Sebastian is so genuinely afraid he might not be able to protect Ciel that the scent of blood from a single needle prick makes him do. This.

And now, with bizarre dolls getting ever more advanced and better at hiding from Sebastian’s senses and the whole police force mobilized against them, I’m very ready for Sebastian in Brighton to be doing everything short of wrapping Ciel in 19th century bubble wrap. I’ll frankly be shocked if he lets Ciel out of his sight for more than five minutes.

But the thing is. The thing is. Narratively, there isn’t much further you can ratchet up the stakes for Sebastian (at least until you get to the moment of truth with the contract and eating his soul, which is a different conversation). Ciel being put in danger or hurt again isn’t going to do all that much to alter their relationship at this point. Sebastian is already about as whipped as the poor guy can get.

What would be a change, is Ciel nearly losing Sebastian.

There’s been—for obvious reasons—much less risk and fear on that front. There has been some build for it:

Red Butler Arc, encountering reapers, Ciel sees Sebastian fight an enemy who can actually hold their own against him for the first time (and while I don’t think this is confirmed, I suspect Grell’s chainsaw eating his shoulder is the first time Ciel sees him get injured for real (as opposed to allowing himself to get shot and playing dead just for the sake of being a dramatic bitch))

Curry Arc, Agni successfully fights Sebastian to a tie (which is why I’m VERY interested to see if Soma turns back up in the Brighton arc as well, feat. angry Kali powers)

[The murder arc is a fake out, because Ciel knows he’s fine the whole time]

On the Campania, Ciel sees him get very badly injured. This is the one and only time Ciel has real cause to fear for Sebastian’s safety, as such.

And since then, while Sebastian isn’t quite untouchable, he hasn’t really suffered any serious injury or physical danger to himself. There have been defeats or fights that didn’t end perfectly for him—such as the school arc fight—but Sebastian hasn’t been existentially threatened. Ciel, I think, still has pretty high confidence that worst case scenario, Sebastian can always just pick him up and make a run for it (indeed, part of the reason things got so bad on the Campania was because they were trapped on a boat). And even if Sebastian couldn’t save him, Ciel—to the extent it’s even occurred to him—doesn’t have a lot of reason to think he couldn’t save himself.

This is now the second time Ciel has lost everything—his title, his name, his home, his safety, his dignity and respect. The first time was worse, obviously, but he’s got to be feeling the similarities.

The first time, Sebastian pulled him out of his despair by offering him the power to escape.

Now, the second time, he at least still has Sebastian by his side. A Sebastian who is going to be laser-focused on protecting Ciel from all possible threats.

But what happens if Ciel thinks he might lose Sebastian too?

#black butler #sebaciel #black butler meta #god I’m so ready for Brighton to be UNHINGED

[thefawnfallacy]

Personally, I imagine that Black Butler would be rather bland without the undertone of sebaciel. The psychosexual aspect of sebaciel that permeates the entirety of the relationship between Ciel and Sebastian genuinely helps to broaden the world around them and the ways in which they interact with it, especially Ciel as we already know about the trauma regarding sex and his body that he has.

It also adds a layer of depth to Sebastian that takes him from being a “stereotypical” demon to a multifaceted character that could potentially see Ciel in a romantic light that deviates from his shown nature of using sex as a method of perfunctorily gathering information. This also ties into the ways in which Ciel is still his means of nourishment while simultaneously providing an undercurrent of emotional stimulation that typically wouldn’t be associated with demons. (especially since we already know demons can express familial and platonic feelings, i.e. Hannah, Alois and Luka).

#I’m just yapping here but! #kuroshitsuji #sebastian michaelis #ciel phantomhive #sebaciel #meta?? I guess this can be a meta #black butler #yana toboso

[justshipit]

Is sebaciel canon yet threads

Thread 1

Thread 2

#Is sebaciel canon yet meta thread

[psych3-delic]

Hi, I'm a og Sebaciel who mostly stopped following the fandom happenings after R!Ciel reveal. I still remember the old Kuro forum with its wonderful metas. I just returned to Tumblr and it is completely filled with hate for the ship now. Did something happen? Back then people mostly let others ship in peace. I'm just very surprised at the general animosity.

haha I'm perhaps the wrong person to ask. I quit reading wayy before you (Green Witch arc) and just came back to the fandom a few months ago. Surprised me too. Back then, if you're into Kuroshitsuji, you are into SebasCiel. No question.

My best guess is that these ppl are born from the sjw wave, which gave birth to the puriteen movement. They assign moral values to contents they consume and vice versa, making consuming contents their only personality trait. In other words, they believe if you condone something in fiction, you must condone it in real life as well. (In which case, they should just smell their own backside cos Kuroshitsuji is a dark fantasy and literally had a demon committing mass murders by a 13yo kid's order 🤷🏻‍♀️ but I guess murder is cute to these people).

Fandom ethics has also gotten worse. People felt entitled to dictate other's opinions. They have this unhealthy parasocial relationship with characters, idols, actors... and demand those idols/author to comply with their own moral codes. Else they boycott. Else they doxx. They're even advocating for the removal of fanfictions they deemed "morally corrupted". Most of them are Westerners too, applying Western logic and moral values on a story that is inherently Japanese by a Japanese author. These people do not know the history of fandom, how it got where it is today and what older generations have overcome. They feel entitled to not learning how to co-exist with one another.

On a final note, I'll tell you that the Asian fandom are doing just fine :)) we remain somewhat the same and the Japanese fans especially don't give a shit about these proship-antiship discord. To them anything is fair game. I much prefer staying on that side of things than going to the trenches with these immature imps tbh :))

#Kuroshitsuji #black butler #ask #SebasCiel

[allsebaciel]

I am what you would call "the OG fan", when I was first active in the fandom, the circus arc manga was just getting released. I've been in this fandom for longer than some antis have been on the face of the earth.

Sebaciel was always a thing.

I do miss the metas and theories that ran rampant before the downgrade in quality also known as the twin twist. It was a good time! Actually, you'd expect early fans to have more discourse because early BB held onto more subject matter than modern BB does.

But no, this fandom used to be normal about fiction. Most OG fans who are not shippers are neutral about S/C or just don't bother talking about it. Because, you know, that's what you do when you don't ship something.

This new type of fans being brainwashed into thinking that enjoying fictional media is in any degree a merit of morality is sad, but unsurprising for the twitter callout generation.

#off

[cielconsumer]

1) you're so correct in your tags on that one post, grell absolutely kisses all proshippers, with tongue too, and 2) bc you called her your f/o, I'm just imagining yall cuddled up reading porn together (ignoring how meta it is, would grell enjoy sebaciel or would she be too jealous of ciel? LOL)

grell kisses every kissable place of every proshipper canon I’m her proshipper husband

and she’d probably like stuff that’s Sebastian fucking her AND ciel

[midnightasteris]

Sebastian is expressing his love for Ciel through flowers

When looking back at all of Yana's previous artworks, where she depicts Sebastian and Ciel often in pictures with flowers, many have debated the significance of flower symbolism in Yana's pieces. While Yana has said that she enjoys playing with flower symbolism in Black Butler art, she never quite stated the reason behind that. It was not until a while ago when I found this information about the significance of flower language in the Victorian era that I understood how much Yana pays close attention to historical context:

"In the Victorian era, when expressing emotions was often considered inappropriate, the giving of flowers was a common way to convey feelings without speaking them aloud." (source).

this gives further meaning to all the flower symbolism Yana uses in her pieces. It's not merely an artistic choice, and it's not merely her liking flowers. It is part of the narrative. Back in the Victorian era, flower language was the most common way people expressed emotions because being open about emotions was improper, especially in high social classes.

which means that her flower drawings with Sebastian and Ciel have way more textual meaning with the flower language. It even gives it an explanation through the lens of the story, rather than her artistic choice. If given an explanation through the narrative, Sebastian may be gifting all those flowers to Ciel as a way to express something in particular. And if we remember correctly, he's gifted him yellow mimosas (they symbolize secret love), and of course, Yana's most recent artwork where Sebastian is giving Ciel a bright red rose in a cup of tea (Which symbolizes romantic love, lust, desire, passion). Perhaps Yana's flower symbolism is tied even more to the story per se because it's saying that the flowers are Sebastian's way of expressing his repressed feelings towards Ciel. This ties more into the theory that Sebastian's character development slowly ties into the fact that he cannot explain why all of a sudden he's falling in love with this mortal human.

Here's the mimosa art, for a deeper look into it. Ciel is wearing the mimosas over his head, in something that might appear to be a hat. Who is the only person who dresses Ciel? Sebastian, of course. Sebastian made sure to delicately place those yellow mimosas over Ciel's head. He wanted to make sure Ciel received the flowers, if not the message.

And a closer look into the new GFantasy cover. The position of the red rose takes significance because it's in a teacup, which means that Sebastian directly handed Ciel the rose, since he is the one that always makes Ciel his afternoon tea. He gave Ciel that rose because he wanted Ciel to notice.

Thus, the historical context takes on more significance when considering what could've been considered an "impropriety" and therefore not morally correct to declare out loud. Sebastian appears before Ciel with yellow mimosas and red roses, while trying to subtly convey the message that he is, indeed, in love with him.

#sebaciel #black butler #ciel phantomhive #sebastian michaelis #kuroshitsuji #meta #meta post #sebaciel meta #Flower language #Symbolism #midnightasteris #Sebastian x Ciel #Ciel x Sebastian #red roses #Yellow mimosas #All part of the language of flowers #the language of love

[lunerium]

Sebastian belonged to Ciel and Ciel belonged to Sebastian the moment they met.

Sebastian gave himself to Ciel the moment they met. Sebastian was summoned by the cry of Ciel’s soul, by the sheer corruption that he so desperately sought. Sebastian went to that sacrificial room not because of the amateur cultists attempting a satanic ritual, but because he was looking for Ciel. He wanted to own Ciel. He chose Ciel.

And when Ciel accepted to surrender himself to the devil, Sebastian marked him. He marked Ciel’s eye and his own hand with the symbol that would bind them together. Sebastian marked him, corrupted him, made him his.

But at the same time, he gave himself to Ciel. The contract is more than just Sebastian granting Ciel his powers. It is Sebastian turning himself in to Ciel, belonging to Ciel, wholeheartedly devoted to Ciel. From the moment that contract was signed, they belonged to each other in the most primal sense.

In this panel, Sebastian says “the power of the devil is yours” which means that Sebastian wholeheartedly let himself be controlled by Ciel, to be owned by him.

Therefore, Sebastian told Ciel, “I am yours”.

#sebaciel #sebastian michaelis #black butler #ciel phantomhive #kuroshitsuji #proship #kuroshitsuji meta #meta #character analysis

[k-s-morgan]

I find your metas, ideas & fics really great! I love your hannigram and SebaCiel ones! They are so well thought out and written beautifully!

Do you have any headcanons or particular things you like to write for hannigram and/or SebaCiel?

Thank you so much!)

I think I'm enjoying pretty similar tropes and elements across most of my fandoms and ships, Hannigram and Sebaciel included. Such elements as obsessiveness, jealousy, and betrayal/argument & the need to make amends give me perpetual enjoyment.

For Hannigram:

I love exploring Will's darkness in particular. Describing his conflicted and changing attitudes to murder always delights me, as well as watching him become more confident and self-assured.

Possessive Hannibal, whose jealousy is quiet but lethal, who will smile at a potential rival in public and then attack them away from others, in some dark parking lot, making a delicious meal out of them and feeding it to Will.

Protective Hannibal who understands that Will doesn't really need protection but who feels wildly defensive of him anyway. This is far from canon, but I love the idea of Hannibal who's hovering over Will every time he as much as breaks a nail :D

Both Hannibal and Will losing control of their cold masks and letting rage/passion/violence surface.

For Sebaciel:

I enjoy describing the endless layers of denial Sebastian is experiencing in regard to his feelings for Ciel. In canon, I always found it funny how he's obviously attached, is ready to die in his urgent need to protect Ciel, goes above and beyond demon butler aesthetics, feels jealousy, tries to prolong their contract, clearly enjoys himself, and yet he's still certain that he'll be able to kill Ciel when the time comes.

Protective & possessive Sebastian and Ciel give me life.

Writing about the games they play with and against each other is my most favorite thing ever. I often don't know who's going to be a winner myself, so it's very exciting.

Ciel's coldness/cruelty. I adore Ciel in his darkest moments, it always says so much about him, and including these moments in my fic is delightful.

I have a lot of headcanon, but they tend to be small, so I cannot readily recall them. Just, in most cases, as I watch Hannibal or Black Butler, I keep finishing/expanding different scenes in my mind, coming up with numerous details I find fitting.

#hannigram #sebaciel #hannibal #black butler

[lunatic-fandom-space]

Oh god so, since ive been watching and reading black butler a lot again Ive obviously also been thinking a lot abt it and it made me unlock this memory qnd have this kinda harrowing realization

For context, I was pretty active on Wattpad at the time, specifically the german side, specifically the german minecraft youtuber side, although I was slowly getting into fully fictional ships at that point as well. One day, one of the people I followed made this "book" or whatever that was like, a roleplay ? Idk the way it worked was that you would 'apply' by just making your character under the comments of one chapter and then go to the comment section of the next chapter where the creator had a comment that was like "RP starts here" and then you replied to that and thats where the rp took place. There wasnt really any direction to this whole thing lmao it was called like "Wattpadtown" or smth and the "premise" was literally just "a bunch of people who got some weird bullshit goin on hanging out in this wacky town" and the entire roleplay was basicalld just one extended shitpost, I really wish I could find it and read through some of it because it was WILD

We ended up being like 8 "main" people in this roleplay (rip to all the other people who applied lmao there were a lot surprisingly enough) and I actually became somewhat close friends w/ the person who started it although we never took it out of the wattpad comments section, at me most we would pm eachother so we've unfortunately lost contact lol. One thing to note about all 8 of us was that we were all pretty big billdip shippers. This is important bc the reason I got into Black Butler because of billdip basically lmao

Like, idk if these were that popular in other fandoms, but there were a lot of these Ask or Dare book for Billdip were you would ask your favorite characters/ships questions or tell them dares or whatever and then someone would write the weirdest most poorly written bullshit around it and its really funny I hope they still make those. But yknow, just having two guys interact in your ask or dare book is kinda boring so you'd get a lot of crossovers with other pairings, popular ones were like Willdip, Mawill, Tomco I remember a german one that had the bluehaired guy x the redhaired guy from Assassination Classroom that was fun. And obviously they would do Sebaciel, like, those two ships are soooooooo in the same ballpark its insane. Anyway, so Im reading this one ask or dare book, mostly for the billdip stuff but Sebastian n Ciel are also there and in one of the chapters they get this dare: "everyone, watch the corset scene from the anime" I remember this very vividly. These ask or dare books could get very meta btw. So they do that ig, and we get their reactions idk how Bill n Dipper reacted but Ciel is all flustered and Sebastian is all flirty or whatever bc the characterization in these books is the bane of my existence. Whatever, the important part is, Im kind of intrigued now bc I was coming out of that in that phase where anything gay seemed like, Scandalous and Exciting(tm) because I was starting to get used to it by that point bc I read a lot of gay fanfic HOWEVER media that had like, canon gay shit in it still seemed Scandolous and Exciting(tm) because yknow, i didnt know a lot of that and its also just different consuming fan content vs Actual Media(tm) yknow. So I watched it and I enjoyed it and I got to The Corset Scene and.. I was not disappointed thats for sure

So thats my story, lets get back to the roleplay stuff. Me and those 8 people would often talk (still in the wattpad comment section) about like, other stuff and one evening the creator wrote like "Heyy can anyone recommend an anime to me, I just binged attack on titan again but now Im sad again because my fave Marco died and like, yeah I have this theory that hes still alive as a titan but still :'( need something to cheer me up" idk why I remember this so vividly now because Ive only watched a single episode of aot so this is borderline incomprehensible to me to this day but whatever. I know she liked billdip and since I liked billdip and then I watched black butler and really liked it I jumped on the chance to tell her to watch it. ALSO I knew that she looooved pretty anime guys and Sebastian is a very pretty and very anime guy so I knew she would adore it. So then she tells me that shes gonna go find and watch it and Im like "YESSSSSSS pls tell me what you think"

Less than 10 minutes later she writes me back like "okayyyyy Im loving it so far (and Sebastian is reaaaallly cute xD) I just have one question tho: why do they have british accents" and I didnt really think anything of it I was just kinda like "Yeah it takes place in 19th century england ig" but I just came to a weirdly upsetting realization; she was definitely not watching it in japanese but also, they dont do accents in the german dub which means......... Ciel and Sebastian have british accents in the english dub.

#this ended up being wayyy longer than I thought lol #but the Historical Context was just too IMPORTANT yknow #also i literally gasped when I realized that #i dont know why it never occured to me #like it seems obvious to me now #but its still so upsetting #like theyre insufferable enough just by virtue of being two guys in victorian times #you dont have to constantly remind me of that via their accents man #OH GOD #claude faustus with a british accent im gonna fucking die #some personal shit #kuroshitsuji #black butler

[soubiapologist]

WHO IS LIKING MY TWO YEAR OLD LOVELESS META ON TWITTER WITH A FUCKING BLACK BUTLER ICON AND A PAGE PLASTERED IN UNIRONIC SEBACIEL!!!!!!!!!!!!! IN GOD'S YEAR 2024!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS AIN'T ABOUT YOU

#IM SO SCARED IM SO SO SCARED

[azuresins]

tw: suicide mention, mentions of SebaCiel, at the end.

I got into it today... with like a million people, I’m... so tired.  I’m not tagging this because it’s not for the faint of heart and it’s not really a ‘meta’ so much as it’s. ... just. Rambling and screaming into the void, but.  This is really sad (duh), but I feel it must be said: O!C was suicidal; the minute he lost everything... and he still is. I feel like that gets overlooked; often.  Just because he made the contract and found a goal; doesn’t mean he hasn’t stopped being Suicidal since.  O!C has a lot of drive for vengeance, but that fuel is temporary, he has acknowledged it is temporary, and Sebastian knows this as well. Sebastian knows this. What is interesting is Sebastian’s reaction; learning how ready O!C was to accept his fate surprised him. However, similarly to Ciel’s panic attack in the Green Witch Arc; I don’t think the weight of that reaction, has sunk in yet for the Demon-- and what that actually means. Just how little value O!C sees in himself and by extension, his soul. He knows it’s valuable to Sebastian; but for himself? It’s currency. This was established right away, within the hour of them meeting. (I’ll come back to this).  In case it wasn’t obvious, O!C is likely deeply, deeply looking forward for the sweet release of Sebastian ending his life; because he’s in constant emotional anguish. He admitted that he knows he can not go on pretending to be his twin forever, and doesn’t want to. 

Sebastian saved his life in more ways than one that day; even if it was meant to be temporary, so he could consume him.  I’m not saying their dynamic is healthy; or that Sebastian is ‘good’  All I’m saying is, that if left to his own devices, I don’t believe O!C would have lived very long, had Sebastian not come along. We know he was in a dire situation... Even if he had survived that; are we really going to believe that he would have gone home, to face the others as ‘the spare?’ The survivors guilt, trauma, and suicidal tendencies would have been right there waiting for him; with no outlet or means to get revenge. That much would be unchanged. I doubt he would have considered impersonating Ciel forever; when he already said, he couldn’t keep that up forever.  It’s a well-known undisputed fact that sometimes suicidal people often fall into patterns of living “for all the ‘wrong’ reasons”. For some examples; an abusive boyfriend, living to get high one more time, living to hurt their enemy... these are perceived, as piss-poor reasons to live by outsiders looking in. ...But many suicidal people have done this before. Lived, for a ‘foolish’ reason.  The truth is, there are no foolish reasons to live. Everyday that someone makes the choice not to take their own life is a victory, a battle won, regardless of that reason. There is potential in life. Life is so valuable; so precious, and I think that’s one of the messages that this story is trying to convey in one of the darkest ways. Life is so valuable, that a Grim Reaper would would try to play god and defy his own existence; bring life instead of death.  So valuable, that those who dare end it in suicide, get punished to work in the afterlife; until they reach some abstract state of nothingness.  So valuable, that I think, the two main characters of the story are going to have some kind of conflict about it.   I’m not saying that they’ll ever say it out loud, or put it into words. Perhaps in actions. But the fact of the matter is...  O!C’s soul means everything to Sebastian; he’s admitted he enjoys being a butler more than a ‘demon.’He knows that he is picky about the souls he chooses and countless times people have been confused as to why he is relentlessly pursuing O!C. O!C’s soul is precious to him.  And at the same time; it means. Nothing, to O!C. O!C is content to throw it away without a second thought; living only for selfish revenge and nothing else. That’s what makes the Green Witch Arc so important; but that’s a whole other ramble for another time.   Coming back to Sebastian learning this when they first met: I’m NOT saying that Sebastian is going to go as far as to change his mind, of his own accord. I’m not saying he’s going to have a change of heart either, or be so selfless that he gives him a chance to opt out just to test him (like in the anime; what the fuck was that?).  ...But I do think that in time it WILL sink in, really sink into the demon’s complex psyche, that urging and encouragement for the vengeance, is one thing; but. It’s going to his him like a train that O!C wont exist after he ‘eats’ him; and the potential of him becoming something even more and greater than he is, will be gone. Sebastian wont get to taste an O!C overcoming his feelings of wanting die; an O!C truly knowing he is giving Sebastian something that is more precious, than he realizes now. He wont ever get to taste an O!C with a will to live.  The soul he craves, is a soul that wants to die. -- Is that honestly what makes it taste better? No, because every interaction they’ve had, implies the opposite. When O!C is defeated or starts to lose his resolve, Sebastian has been known to absolutely flip his shit.  Sebastian likes his Master burning with passion and strong, wants him to feel the satisfaction of revenge and to feel like a whole bitter, angry, cackling evil boy.  But we as humans know, that feeling will be temporary. What will happen to him, or the contract, should the revenge go awry? Or even completed; without that satisfying kick they’re both hoping for?  My gut tells me, Sebastian will feel very, very weird and torn about it all before the end. And I think it’s just... All going to go terribly wrong for him; maybe for both of them.  But it doesn’t even matter what I think--  The facts remain: If the contract is fulfilled and Sebastian takes his soul... in O!C’s mind he’s easing the burden of O!C taking his own life; and becoming a WORK HORSE as punishment for that suicide. Because that was easily O!C’s fate if left to his own devices.  O!C doesn’t WANT to exist anymore, he wants to NOT exist even as a soul. Suicide-by-Demon; our Ciel’s perceived salvation.

This is also honestly, the number 1 reason why... I don’t ship Sebastian and O!C in the context of canon. Even after O!C is aged up; I hesitate to call it ‘shipping’ and not ‘hate-fucking’ if that’s the only thing, that has changed. So much has to change. If they are to really love each other. I want to see O!C overcome his own self-hate  ... find. Other. Goals. And still want to see the demon. Because he wants to. Because he grew fond of him.

People liken O!C as a lamb being raised for slaughter, but I want that stupid demon to realize he’s gotten attached to said lamb; realize the weight of the stupid lamb’s words about himself and realize WHY he was so willing to throw himself away; and for it to actually affect him, a bit. To have to choose between eating the lamb, or knowing one day, that Lamb will become a powerful Ram that changes the fate of many, and he had a part in it. That satisfaction of knowing “I raised that thing and he’s fucking up the whole world...” That isn’t to say he can’t pursue him another time; but he’d have to sit and think about his own attachments, think about how much he values them and his own aesthetics and place and role in the universe, and come face-to-face with his loneliness as a demon, and saying goodbye to the name and role of “Sebastian.” 

And no I’m not even saying this hypothetical love even has to be romantic because there’s so... many forms of love. 

It’s just as they are now? Right now in the manga?... all of what I previously mentioned, is exactly what Undertaker meant when he told Sebastian that all he does is make O!C miserable. As things currently are... 

To LOVE Sebastian and encourage his presence, is also, to hate himself.

Unless you’re into the angst or don’t give a fuck if the dynamic is healthy or not, in my humble opinion, for relationship between them to be any semblance or stretch of the imagination of what could be considered actual ‘love’ --  that has to change... 

#tw: suicide mention #black and blue #mm #out here at midnight pouring my heart out about them again are we #if anyone actually reads this far you deserve awards and treats #if you respond to this just please be tasteful and careful ///

[smorgasbordofobsessions]

shoutouts...

sorry this is late it just took a while to compile it’s been SUCH a great two months!! i’ve enjoyed myself so much with kuro/bb and i’m honestly sad to say goodbye to a series that i love. these are the blogs that i followed during my two months, and they’re all great! i’ve seen so much from them all, and the talent in this fandom is truly unreal!!

i’ll sort them by category, and list their last update if it’s a dead blog:

ART/GIFS:

@peonacotton​ : truly a doll and their artwork is sooo good! glad they’re a part of the fandom!

@silvercrystal​ : their gifs are beautiful and i have been know to reblog them right after posting haha

@l-amour-du-ciel​ : beautiful, beautiful art

@yilanoff​ : the realism!!! stunning work across the board. i highly encourage you to check out their work and shop

@blackbutlerfanzine​ : a nonship fanzine that shipped out earlier this year; from the link provided on their blog, it is not possible to buy this anymore; last updated 2months ago

@earlgreyandco​ : art, edits, shitposts; their sebagni art is cute!

@thotseb : into bottom!seb and more shitposts? here you go haha; more sebagni too!

@stale--baguette : AMAZING COLORINGS!! i’m super into the pastel

@smilexblack : cosplayers! and their art is cute, too

@qtpiecaps : screencaps! these are the ones i used myself

@meannalee​ : ah so good! i especially like their fanart of mey rin.

@digdig0319 : i really like their style!

@sebastian--art : love their style and their lighting choices are really great

FANFIC:

@chromehoplite​ : everything they write you need to read

@a-smutty-wuss​ : nsfw blog that posts other content besides kuro but it’s mainly kuro

@lushcorp​ : more aesthetic than shippy but it fits here

@rabiid-bunny : their cyoa fic was quality!!!

@amanitus : their fic “prepositions” is just... i would buy this. their writing is stunning, and the back and forth between sebatian and ciel is something yana needs to take notes on

@teasmudge : ooohhhh boy oh boy the smut is real nice

@ladyvexll : nsfr for a great reason

AESTHETIC:

@demxnicfiend​ : not a lot of kuro, but the vibe for sebastian is on point

@ggreyearl​ : love the theme for this blog

@noirserviteur : theme and content are on point

GENERAL/MISCELLANEOUS:

@todaysreapers​ : posts about the daily life of reapers

@kurolizzie​ : “all about lizzie!”

@heartciel​ : a regular blog that has some kuro

@kuroconcepts​ : a kuro meme blog haha

@ociel-namesuggestions​ : what it says on the tin

@abybweisse​ : the meta is great

@abybweissekuromother3​ : same person but the blog for their major meta theory

@akuma-hoshi​ : multifandom but has a lot of kuro

@funtomrabbits​ : has asks and theories about the series; i like the theme of this blog

@just-sebaciel-things​ : what it says on the tin

@phantombrothers : general kuro blog

@crunchy-snowflake : this blog makes me so happy because soma IS best boy

@kuroshitsuji-effervescence : general blog for kuro

#kuroshitsuji #black butler #shoutouts

[midnightasteris]

Sebastian and Ciel in the new chapter (repost)

Well first of all:

SEBASTIAN AND CIEL ARE BACK IN THE MANGA. GO READ THE LATEST CHAPTER RIGHT NOW

Now, for this specific panel, I noted something quite interesting.

Sebastian in here called him "Earl Phantomhive" he never did that. He usually called him "my lord" or "young master".

But here he called him Earl phantomhive to let him know that he is the only one that deserved that title. That before his eyes, he is the only earl phantomhive.

And Sebastian cannot lie, so his words were true to heart. He believes that our Ciel is the only Earl, at least to him.

No one can snatch the title away from O!Ciel, and Sebastian only recognizes him as the true Earl, as his "one and only master", as he said when they first met.

I was wrong when I said I could not love them more.

#black butler #sebaciel #ciel phantomhive #sebastian michaelis #Sebaciel Meta #Black Butler Meta