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Nissan Silvia
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Daniela Silivas on the balance beam at the Summer Olympics, 1988. Photographed by Bob Martin.
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hol’ up, the girl in lottie’s cult is named lisa??? like, lisa and lottie?? ? the book that inspired the parent trap???
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freifraufischer · 2 years
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A non-exhaustive list of gymnasts whose ages are known to be falsified.
“Dick does she look 14 years old to you? [...]  I tell you we have a story going around the gymnastics community that is pretty traditional that when a young Romanian girl is asked her age she looks to her coach for the answer.”  --Bart Conner, 1985 American Cup
Since Wikipedia can’t be trusted to be right for a lot of details of gymnasts careers...
Olga Bicherova
Born in either 1967 or 1968, during Bicherova’s elite career the age requirement was that you had to turn 15 in the year of competition.  Either birthdate would have made her too young for the 1981 World Championships where she won two gold medals, one in the all around and one with the team.  If you take the 1967 birthdate she could have been age eligible for the 1982 World Cup where she won 5 medals, 3 of them gold except that one of the requirements of the World Cup at that time was previous participation in the World Championships.  [In fairness to Bicherova the above picture is slightly mean of me to use as she never grew very tall.]
Ecaterina Szabo
Born in 1968, during Szabo’s elite career the age requirement was to turn 15 in the year of competition meaning her first year of senior eligibility should have been 1983 and 1983 is when her first major titles occurred.  Except she was competing as a senior in 1982 winning a number of international invitationals (which she may have been eligible for anyway because juniors and seniors often competed together at those).  It’s unclear to me why her birthdate was changed though it might have simply been something that happened when the government changed her name to hide her Hungarian ethnicity.  Szabo’s first language is Hungarian and she was born in Transylvania as Szabó Katalin.  She still goes by Katalin in her private life.  She was of age during the 1984 Olympic Games and the 1983 World Championships
Olga Mostepanova
Born in 1970, during Mostepanova’s elite career the age requirement was to turn 15 in the year of competition (or 14 for the World Championship that qualified for the Olympics).  She has said herself that while she was competing her passport was wrong by “years”.  By the accounts as I understand them her first senior year should have been 1985.  Mostepanova was the top Soviet gymnast in 1984 winning the alternative games held for countries that boycotted the 1984 Olympic Games (and the reality of her age falsification makes playing ‘What if?’ for who should have won the 1984 Olympics awkward).  Aside from her 5 Friendship Games gold medals, she would have also been age ineligible for the 1983 World Championships where she won 4 medals, 2 gold (team and beam) and 2 silver (all around and floor).
Oksana Omelianchik
Born on January 2, 1970, during Omelianchik’s elite career the age requirement was to be turn 15 in the year of competition and her first year of eligability was 1985.  None of Omelianchik’s elite career honors are tainted however she says at one point she was given a passport with her birthdate shifted by a week (which would have made her able to compete in the 1984 Olympic Games).
Daniela Silivaș
Born in 1972, during Silivaș’ elite career the age requirement was that you turn 15 in the year of competition meaning her first year as a senior elite should have been 1987.  In 1985 she won a European bronze medal on beam, a World Championship gold medal on beam and a silver with the team.  She also won 3 medals at the 1986 World Cup.  She was of age for the 1988 Olympic Games
Kim Gwang-suk
Only the universe knows what year Kim Gwang-suk was actually born.  She was listed as 15 years old for three consecutive years by the North Korean government from 1989-1991, and then 17 years old at the 1992 Olympic Games.  She may have been as young as 11 when she competed in the 1989 World Championships.  In 1991 she won the World Championship gold on the uneven bars and at least one of her birth years means she might have been age eligible for that competition (which may be why FIG was reluctant to take away that medal, officially they decided that as she wasn’t personally involved in the fraud she could keep it).  The North Korean team was banned from the 1993 World Championships for the sloppy fraud.
Alexandra Marinescu
Born in 1982, the age requirements changed in the middle of Marinescu’s elite career.  For the 1996 Olympic Gams you had to turn 15 in the year of competition and starting in 1997 you had to turn 16.  The Romanian state issued her a passport giving her birthdate as 1981 and it is worth noting that this was the post revolution Romanian government.  She competed at 1995 Worlds, 1996 Worlds, and the 1996 Olympic Games with a stated birthdate that would make her just old enough to compete in those competitions.  In fact she was younger than both Dominique Moceanu and Vanessa Atler.  At no point during her entire elite career which lasted 3 years was Marinescu of age.  She has 3 World medals (2 gold for the team in 1995 and 1997, 1 silver on beam from 1996), and one Olympic medal (bronze in the team from 1996).  The FIG database still lists her incorrect birth year and the Romanian gymnastics federation claims that she is lying about the age falsification (as well as other abuses she has been outspoken about).
Dong Fangxiao
Born sometime in January of 1986 (the exact day is still disputed), during Dong’s elite career the age requirement was to turn 16 in the year of competition.  Her first year of senior competition should have been 2001 but she competed at the 1999 World Championships under the rule at the time that if you are eligible for the Olympic Games you cold compete at the World Championships the previous year.  She won a bronze medal at both 1999 Worlds and the 2000 Olympics with the team.  In 2008 she applied to be a technical official at the Beijing Olympic Games she listed her true birthdate instead of the 1983 birthday under which she had competed.  An investigation of the case resulted in both medals being stripped.
Hong Su-jong
At different competitions during her career Hong Su-jong was entered with a birth year of 1985, 1986, and 1989.  At some of these competitions she was entered with a different birth year as her twin sister Hong Un-jong (Olympic and World Champion who has never herself been implicated in age falsification).  Hong Su-jong’s most significant medal was the 2007 World silver on vault which she is believed to be of age for but she competed at the 2004 Olympic Games with the 1985 birthdate and for that competition she was too young.  Hong Su-jong was eventually banned permanently from competition and North Korea was banned until October 2012 meaning that her sister was unable to defend her 2008 Olympic vault gold.
You may notice that He Kexin is not on this list...
During (and after) the 2008 Olympic Games questions were raised about two time Olympic Gold medalist He Kexin’s age (as well as that of several of her team mates).  Unlike all of the above cases where either inconsistent age information was entered at official FIG competitions or the gymnast themselves have stated that their birth year was changed, He’s birthdate has always been consistent in FIG documents and she herself has always denied falsification.  Her age was listed as earlier in entries for some domestic meets and that was reported by foreign press as evidence that she was too young.  This ignores the fact that age falsification (in both directions up and down) was common by city and provincial teams in China to enter age bracketed competitions and that is what may have been going on.  Either way these competitions are not governed by the FIG so the inconsistent birth information at them was not their problem.  I am generally agnostic about He’s birth year.  There is strong circumstantial evidence to suggest that her age was changed (that doesn’t have to do with domestic competition forms or her appearance) however I understand why the FIG investigation decided that there was not enough evidence for them to act.
Sooooo the only people punished for age falsification have been Asians.  That’s kind of racist isn’t it?
Two things can be true at the same time.  Yes it is highly suspicious that only North Korea and China have been punished for this while there are documented cases of European federations also doing this.  However I think it’s important to note that these cases are not all the same.  North Korea was punished for providing inconsistent birthdates for the same gymnast at competitions.  The evidence of the offense was right there in FIG’s paperwork.  China was punished when Dong applied to be an official with FIG giving an inconsistent birth year.
All of these other cases involve gymnasts whose paperwork was consistent during their careers.  
The fact that FIG is only accepts that level of proof and unwilling to accept (especially in Marinescu’s case) the gymnasts own statements about their birth year certainly doesn’t make them look like they are particularly interested in punishing this kind of cheating unless absolutely forced to.  I would offer the counter point that FIG is not the police and they do not have the ability to determine if there is something else going on with such public statements and they often came out well after the standard 10 year statute of limitation for stripping medals (except in the case of Marinescu).  Some have suggested that FIG was reluctant to act on Marinescu’s statements because stripping Romania of those medals would promote China who was also age cheating at the time.  I don’t think you have to go to that place when the answer is just as likely that FIG has a very narrow standard of proof for revoking medals on the basis of age falsification and has even erred on the side of allowing the gymnast (Kim Gwang-suk) to keep a medal won while clearly under age.
Are FIG officials racist against Asians?  There is a lot of evidence for that.
Has FIG only punished Asian nations for age falsification?  Yes.  But it’s more a case that North Korea is really bad at this and the Dong case has fairly unique circumstances.
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gymfanconfessions · 2 years
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“This is mad random but the 1988 Romanian Team compulsory pianist deserves some recognition for being the only team pianist in Seoul to not rush through the music. Instead they took the their time and slowed down each phrase, especially the scalic passages, so that the gymnasts could hit all of the accents and flow with the music. This is one of the reasons that made Silivas’ compulsory floor the best at that games, in contrast to the Soviet compulsory floor routines which sadly felt a bit rushed.”
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mad-quixotic-tales · 2 years
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Your Azula flat-earther post made me snort coffee into my nose and I followed immediately, only to find you’re the author of The Boo Chronicles!!! 😍😭🙌
I LOVE THAT SERIES SO MUCH. IT’S SO GOOD AND FUN AND NICE. I love your writing!! I hope you have a great day! 💕
hahaha omg thank you and hello! welcome to my little home of hardly curated but diligently tagged fandom and writing content! i hope ur nasal cavity has recovered
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aescheretalks · 2 years
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ʻAmusia pē ʻa e matangi na. ʻOku ne angi faʻiteliha kae hopoate pē kita.
He ʻofá ʻoku loka siliva
I envy the wind. It surges freely, but I succumb myself to this love: a silver locket.
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limeade-arcade · 6 months
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Put my Angel Oc Siliva in @hoaxghost 's File recovery style!
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dozydawn · 9 months
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“Daniela Silivas of Romania in tears during the Summer Olympic Games in Seoul, circa September 1988. Despite her disappointment, she won six medals in these Games - three gold, two silver and one bronze.”
Photographed by Eileen Langsley.
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moonmeg · 9 months
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Alternative ending:
Philip is adopted by Siliva and Andy.
Even if he's grumpy about it.
:)
(y'all there's only so much angst I can take. Your art is incredible btw! Definitely should consider making comics or graphic novels!)
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(Tysm 🥺🥺💕)
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moonlight-if-knight · 4 months
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ROs reaction to MC trying to seduce them to coax them into letting them doing something hella dangerous? I wonder who will give in and who will not
Derek: No. No way around it, no condition. A definite no. His better judgment won’t let him permit something dangerous.
Max: He can be persuaded... But it really depends on what MC wants to do. Nothing too extreme, and he’s in. Otherwise, he’ll say no.
Alex: Easy. He’ll say yes. No matter what it is. MC doesn’t even have to convince him. Just one condition: he’ll come along. More so if it’s something very dangerous as he’ll want to be close to protect them.
Jere: He’ll say no and be very vocal about convincing MC to not do it.
Siliva: She’ll likely say no, but it depends on the situation.
Lorian/Locke: They will think about it logically and can either agree or disagree.
???: They will say no. They will never forgive themself if MC gets hurt.
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freifraufischer · 10 months
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Daniela Silivaș (ROU), FX, 1988 Olympic Games
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