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ben-the-hyena · 9 months
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Rewatching AOR again, and I realized something about the exchange between SkekSo and SkekZok when they think SkekMal is dead and deserves a funeral rite, with SkekZok being embarrassed admitting there is no rite since none of them died since the beginning
Originally I saw it as "strange", SkekYi and SkekHak did die, it was as if they ignored them. So I interpreted it as them not counting them or even having forgotten about them (after all the movie shows they did forget about Aughra too)
Then we all saw the tableboard with all the Skeksis titles on which was "Spy Master" we all suspected to be SkekUng, and there were 2 other ones, the Merchant and the Steward. 18 in total. So we supposed those were SkekYi and SkekHak. Especially since apparently in the new canon from the novels SkekHak IS still alive so who knows, AOR being even different it wouldn't be far fetched they both would be. Unless those were for flashbacks or storytelling
But upon listening to it again, SkekZok says "no Skeksis has died since-" then pauses as if self censoring or scared, and finishes more nervously and vague "the beginning...". Now sounding like it's not that no one died from the start, but no one died SINCE the start but they had at this very moment. Which is making me think that Skeksis (so SkekYi and/or SkekHak) DID die at the beginning, but it was not talked to again out of fear of death, out of censorship, and that it was so early there was no rite and they just got rid of the bodies. Making more sense why SkekSo would ask for a rite supposing perhaps SkekZok had actually done some sort of rite instead of none, rather than assuming there was one planned in case one would die which is weird from a species who refuses to see Death as a possibility
Making me also think. Everybody at this moment thought comatose SkekMal was dead. "None" of them having died, it was logical they would not know an actual dead Skeksis fall into ashes since it was not the case of other species. But if indeed SkekYi and/or SkekHak died at the beginning they should know. Meaning either they forgot/self-censored and self-convinced to forget as a denial of their mortality, OR they did not fall into ashes. Meaning my headcanon that the Skeksis originally wouldn't fall into ashes when dying but do so now only because they are very ancient and years catch up all of sudden may be true after all !
And if TDC AOR Tactics' comment that SkekMal's mask looks like a Skeksis skull is to take seriously and canon, it could truly belong to obe of them like I HC it is
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cringenaynayturtletot · 6 months
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Forgot my login to my dark crystal tumblr so this is going on here too lol
For a Native Thra au! So skeksis and urru originate from Thra instead of being an alien species. All of the skeksis are older than drawn, just wanted to draw them younger cause I love giving them so much hair and feathers.
Anyways! This is the royal family. I don't have names for the parents yes, but from left to right (And top to bottom), here are their kids:
SkekSo (Future heir/emperor obv), SkekPyre, SkekDili, skekMiri, skekHue, skekScya, skekPip, and skekHak. The next image is skekHak with his partner, skekYi. I have skekSil being their kid in this, so lil Sil is there, too.
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skekheck · 8 months
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I have a question regarding skekYi and skekHak. So I’ve read the Creation Myth comics, but I don’t think either of them are ever named. On top of that, on the wiki I see that skekHak is called the Machinist of Merchant, and that skekYi either never had a role or was the Steward. I gotta ask, where is this information coming from? Both their names and their roles because I can’t find them from any book materials.
I did a bit of digging to get the following information, but I'm not sure if this is complete or correct as the places I found them were barely sourced. If anyone knows where I can find the following or have additional information I can check out, please let me know!
With that being said, it's likely their names were canonized publicly on the official Dark Crystal website. They are the only Skeksis without titles. Strangely skekHak's other half, urHom, is the only one of the two pairs to have a title (he was called "the Carpenter"). To my knowledge, there is no official reading material that states which Skeksis is who. It likely may come from outside material, like interviews, though I have not found them if they exist.
In the J.M. Lee novel continuity, only skekYi died at the beginning. (This part I was able to find in Flames of the Dark Crystal so likely the rest of this paragraph can be found in that book or the other three but I don't have the time to verify.) SkekHak, on the other hand, survived and was known as the Machinist. He was responsible for remodeling the Crystal Castle to suit the Skeksis' tastes. SkekYi apparently is known as "the Deceased" in the novels, but I can't find where this is said (if it ever was).
It's been changed for AOR, though. In the Crystal Calls, at the 19 minute mark, there is a billboard with 17 out of the 18 Skeksis titles (skekGra is missing from the list). However, there are three unique titles we've not seen yet: Spy Master, Steward, and Merchant.
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(This was pulled from the Dark Crystal Conjunction on Facebook (I believe)). The new Skeksis are highlighted in red meanwhile the original Skeksis from the movie are in black. So people have assumed the Spy Master is skekUng's original title (especially because it's so similar to Garthim Master). And we know skekGra was known as the Conqueror and later the Heretic so it's safe to assume Steward and Merchant belonged to the last two Skeksis. However neither Skeksis were given an official title designation and this could likely be retconned in future material.
Something to keep in mind is that the Dark Crystal's continuity is fickle. Everything is considered canonical yet is continuously changed and contradicting each other. So what is true in the tetralogy is not true for the AOR continuity and vice versa. Both may not be true for other reading material as well. It is mainly based upon which media you are referring to. You will also notice a lot of this is speculative so I would treat it as such until we get official confirmation. (Or sources are provided. This is why citations are important).
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darkskek · 1 year
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Round 1
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loveforskekshod · 1 year
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It's a rebirth of SkekHak or SkekYi made with magic and science starting with the bones and internal organs forming and covering everything with the muscle tissues and the skin at the end while he's incubating inside SkekTek
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plummyplums · 3 years
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Some UrSkek thoughts/ideas, cut cuz it's long
skekOk the Scrollkeeper + urAk the Scribe = OkAk the Historian
These roles are quite similar; people who write and record things. Thus, this one was easy for me. OkAk would be the one who recorded and knew all of UrSkek history, and would likely have a large library.
skekAyuk the Gourmand + urAmaj the Cook = AyukAmaj the Chef
These roles go hand-in-hand, one who eats and one who cooks. Thus, I went with the logical mix; a Chef, one who improves and creates new dishes. They would obviously be the chef of the UrSkeks, providing meals for the others.
skekGra the Conqueror/Heretic + urGoh the Wanderer = GraGoh the Explorer
While I was tempted to make GraGoh an artist due to their shared interests during AoR, I went with their official titles, both known for traveling. I think GraGoh would be the type to be constantly finding new places, meeting new creatures, and relaying the things they learn to the other UrSkeks.
skekHak the ??? + urHom the Carpenter = HakHom the ???
Unfortunately, we don't know what skekHak's role was. Thus, I can't combine their roles as I did with the others. For them, I speculate that skekHak would have ended up being some sort of craftsman or builder, and it would have extended to HakHom.
skekUng the General/Garthim Master/Emperor + urIm the Healer = UngIm the Leader
After the deaths of skekSo and urSu, skekUng took over as Emperor of the Skeksis. I'm not sure what their role would have been before this, as I can't find any real comparison between them. Maybe a Medic? Like, a battle medic.
skekLi the Satirist + urLii the Storyteller = LiLii the Entertainer
Though we've never seen them, these two were also easy for me. In my mind, Lilii was the one who would come up with humor and stories to entertain the other UrSkeks, based on the halves' titles.
skekVar the General + urMa the Peacemaker = VarMa the Strategist
In the case that the UrSkeks would ever have to fight, it would come down to VarMa to figure out what to do. They're a master negotiator, but also skilled in battle when need be. All in all, they would be the one to figure out how to best face a conflict.
skekNa the Slave Master + urNol the Herbalist = NaNol the ???
Honestly, I have no idea what to do with these two. Their roles seem completely unrelated to me. If y'all can come up with something for them, let me know, I'd be excited to see.
skekSa the Mariner + urSan the Swimmer = SaSan the Sailor
Similarly to GraGoh, SaSan would be a constant traveler, the only difference being that they focused on the sea.
skekLach the Collector + urSen the Monk = LachSen the ???
These two seem like complete opposites. Honestly, I'm not sure what to do with them. Maybe something to do with sorting or rating.
skekSil the Chamberlain + urSol the Chanter = SilSol the ???
While I can't quite figure out exactly what I'd want their role to be, with their titles being so different, but I know that they were likely an assistant to whoever bore the title of Leader. Perhaps something to do with speaking, due to skekSil's tendency to mess with people through words.
skekSo the Emporer + urSu the Master = SoSu the Leader.
They were the original leader of the UrSkeks, before the role was passed to UngIm with their death.
skekTek the Scientist + urTih the Alchemist = TekTih the Researcher
They spend all of their time trying to learn new things, trying to find information about the world around them. Unlike GraGoh and SaSol, however, they don't travel, instead researching through books and experimentation.
skekEkt the Ornamentalist + urUtt the Weaver = EktUtt the Tailor
EktUtt was likely the one who provided clothing for all of the UrSkeks, and in my mind, were the most materialistic UrSkek. They like high-quality clothing that tells a story and expresses the wearer.
skekMal the Hunter and urVa the Archer = MalVa the Warrior
MalVa was likely one of the physically strongest UrSkeks, fighting/killing for food and to protect the others when needed. They likely worked closely with ValMa, both dealing with battle more than the other UrSkeks.
skekYi the ??? + urYa the ??? = YiYa the ???
Legit have no info on either of them. No idea what they could've done.
skekShod the Treasurer + urYod the Numerologist = ShodYod the Mathematician
They're a master of math, with their accounting skills moving to skekShod. If UrSkeks had a system of currency, they totally were the one who handled it.
skekZok the Ritual Master + urZah the Ritual Guardian = ZokZah the High Priest
Their titles are near exactly the same, so I treated that as ZokZah being extremely ritualistic and focusing on tradition, moreso than any other UrSkek.
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.My starting date for this image was in February, I can’t believe it took me this long on and off to finish it. Another round of gelfling skeksis and urru which, like my first drawing of them, is their own clan rather than part of the specific one from the show. Basically always twins born that are considered as one person. Want more info about that/want to see SoSu, here’s the link to the first drawing: https://glitterfilledtrashcan.tumblr.com/post/631916487744077824/had-some-inspiration-to-draw-some-gelfling-au-for
I decided to do HakHom and YiYa because they’re related to SoSu in this. HakHom is SoSu’s brother. YiYa is their wife, and they’re SilSol’s parents, making Sil and Sol SoSu’s nephew(s). YiYa make and sell their own pottery, and HakHom are architects. Hak is more of an interior designer though, while Hom is more of the actual architect/planning side. Both HakHom and YiYa were killed before SilSol reached adulthood, but are obviously still alive at the age SIlSol is now in this
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punkcalf-art · 4 years
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SkekHak the Toxicologist
"This may... what's that saying again? Oh yes! Sting a little!" 
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ben-the-hyena · 9 months
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Idea for the Natives AU : as said, previously, Skeksis speak Skeksish in-universe, and almost all Skeksis and UrRu speak UrSkeksish with each other which is like Italians and Spanish speaking a language in the middle of it that is like Latin but not dead, but the ones we know happen to be perfectly fluent in Gelfling, the standard/main/universal language of Thra like English is to Earth
In the AU obviously it's nor spoken by everyone, only politicians, diplomats, scholars, royals, merchants, traders, army translators, religious and officials in general have to know it. All the canon Skeksis are nobles in the AU minus SkekTek (who is fluent in it for usefulness when studying foreign sciences), SkekSil (who figured it is best to know it to manipulate more people and integrate the court even more) and SkekHak (the Merchant so he had to sell his products to most people possible) who entered the court (in SkekHak's case his own, SkekYi and he living in another town) by themselves
So by this logic so must their descendance. Most do in fact. But some have more difficulties than others, or don't see it as useful. None of SkekTek's kids or grandkids speak it since they barely count as courtiers anyway. SkekSa's adopted kids on the contrary only speak Gelfling since she raised them the Sifan way and doesn't see herself as a Skeksis by the end of her life. SkekVou (SkekZok and SkekVar's middle son) is a bit too dumb so couldn't even get the pronouns and articles thing (SkekSish doesn't seem to have any) and so gave up, and his own child only knows school bases since he doesn't see why they should know it since he is doing well without it. SkekEi (SkekNa's adoptive daughter) had to learn it from the moment she was adopted which was when she was a preteen instead of it being taught from a young age so even if fortunately for her she had facilities and learned it quickly she still has an accent the canon Skeksis don't have. Twins SkekNetk and SkekSsaz (SkekSil and SkekUng's sons) do speak it but badly, usually being mischievous and uninterested in class, resulting in them knowing how to understand it and read it but when they speak it they sound like SkekSil but NOT playing dumb but genuinely because they too have a hard time with the grammar differences and essentially literally translate what they think (a little nod to how it used to be what they wanted to imply for SkekSil in the test audience dub lol) and the fact that not only they butcher that is so simple to him but also sound even more like their mother has SkekUng cringe and enrage when he is with them on a mission that requires speaking to Gelfling. SkekSsaz' eldest daughter, SkekMet, has severe dyslexia so she can barely read her own language let alone another so out of frustration got disgusted from learning Gelfling through books and completely gave up too not even bothering remembering the few she knew finding it useless anyway. SkekFih, mate of SkekLong (SkekVar and SkekLong's eldest son) being just a guard didn't have to but perfected basic sentences for his stay in Ha'rar and learned more there giving him a level like the twins' after 6 unum there with an extra accent. SkekSosh (SkekLach and SkekLi's eldest biological son) doesn't speak it because he never wanted to bother lowering himself to slave language, and with a father as irresponsible as SkekLi who never took care of him and SkekLach who whines about anything bothering her therefore having taught her son to feel the same being the one to raise him, none of them opposed or cared to
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polarwooly · 4 years
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For someone with literally zero screen-time skekHak has sure managed to weasel her way to my heart… (I headcanon skekHak as she/her, fight me)
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bogprincess-kira · 4 years
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Finished my design for skekHak the Executioner! The paper rolled a bit while I was working, and my photo editing tools aren't great, so I know the image isn't perfect, but there are slightly better close-ups under the cut.
Heavily inspired by @polarwooly 's design; I knew I wanted to make her a Cassowary since I started working out her personality, but I wasn't sure if people would like it until I saw how successful their Hak was, and that motivated me to finally finish this.
I haven't designed HakHom yet (because I still haven't figured out how I want to draw Urskeks), but she'll be a very important player in my AU, so I figured this'd be a good way to get some ideas while practicing Skeksis. The robe design on the far right is just a hypothetical, since... Y'know, fried chicken. But it was still a lot of fun to design!
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skekshroom · 4 years
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hello dark crystal community
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holic-user · 4 years
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My idea for a Dark Crystal AU
EDIT: Decided to call this 'Revived AU' because two of my friends suggested it.
I had this idea that all of the skeksis and mystics who died before the great conjunction had resurrected and they're younger.
My friend suggested that maybe an imprint of their essense was left on Thra so they poofed up
Maybe they have to wait for the next great conjunction to arrive. For the meantime, they must survive and find their place among Thra's residents. Oh yeah, there's gelfling survivors in this AU.
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skekMal would target Jen because he reminds him of Rian.
Jen: "I'm telling you that I'm not Rian!"
skekMal: "Nice try fooling me, I know that lying tongue anywhere"
So urSu comes to the rescue to save Jen (again). And while the two are fighting off Mal, the hunter felt a sense of deja vu as the two were able to push him off.
'Just like father and son'
Maybe Mal runs off after realizing that this mystic belongs to skekSo so he can't hurt him. Then urSu and Jen have a heartfelt reunion with tons of hugs. They'll be catching up and Jen would tell him all about Kira.
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Tih, Sen and Ma would band together and follow urSu. Jen gets to meet Tih again. Sen and Ma meet Jen for the first time. Naturally they're very curious to hear the story that their master had raised a gelfling.
San just wanders the waters again.
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Aughra would be ecstatic to meet urVa again, she would visit some of skeksis to nag at them. Maybe Mal is afraid of Aughra now.
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I'd imagine the first ones to die to be unhinged. It'll be skekHak, urHom, skekYi and urYa.
Hak and Yi being crazy and are extremely deadly. They are more akin to beasts and speak in garbled talk. While Hom and Ya are despondent and have little awareness of what's going on. Any injuries they receive, they have little to no reactions to.
Hak and Yi actually hunt together so they're more fearsome to encounter than Mal. They're a deadly duo who communicate to each other without needing speech. The other skeksis didn't recognize these two at first.
Thank @ben-the-hyena for Yi's flamingo beak
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So would demand the other skeksis to follow him but they were like "Nah, we just resurrected so no way would we spend another lifetime following you".
This lead him to do some self reflection or him trying to come up with plans of getting his throne back. So far his only allies are Var and Mal to assist him. So and Var live with each other while So struggles to come with terms that this is his life now. Var is taking this in stride and is always there for the former emperor.
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urVa is trying to discover the beasts who had been destroying Thra and killing indiscriminately. The mystic is wandering the woods to find the source.
Mal is trying to figure out what has been scaring off the other animals since his traps aren't catching anything for days. He found tracks that he recognized as skeksis.
Mal has been discovered by the duo, he couldn't believe that these two beasts are skekHak and skekYi. He tried calling out for them to cease or else. But they didn't listen and Mal couldn't hold them back. Then urVa comes to his aid and they worked together. They were able to fend off the two skeksis. While urVa and skekMal are nursing their wounds, they began conversing with one another with no venom between them. For the first time, they understood one another and slowly began the start of their friendship.
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Lach would be really sad that Ok wasn't there with her. She goes back to doing what she knows best: pillaging. Jen and Kira received reports that a rogue skeksis is seen riding away on a Phegnese with many Arduffs following her. She's a BAMF and I love her. Thanks @candythemew for the barbarian/pillager idea!
A phegnese is this bird creature from the books. It's really cool!
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Maybe OkAc visits her and they'll both be crying.
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Sa and Tek are not on anyone's side, I like the thought of these two just bunking together since Tek needs some protection. It's nice that Sa can have some company that isn't out to betray her. Tek appreciates having a friend that isn't a dick.
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Li and Lii, I know really nothing about them. Maybe they can be sassy neighbors or be dabbing on the others.
EDIT: I forgot to talk about Gra and Goh! They're so happy to be alive and together again. They often visit Jen and Kira, they recognized Jen as Rian's son. They're the fun uncles.
I see these two spending more time together and constantly hugging each other. Goh is happy to meet the other mystics and Gra is busy making fun of So's cruddy house.
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A commission piece for @bogprincess-kira on their take on skekHak. Called the Justice, this scary lady is not one to be trifled with. Also, note the stylish beard-axe.
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