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taivyart · 10 days
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Our baby girl and Queen
Daenerys Targaryen
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your-gracelyn · 1 month
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Borrowing your 6x great grandmother’s outfit
“From my blood come the prince/ss that was promised….”
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TG stans and Targaryen antis complaining about Aegon's dream getting added to HOTD is so fucking funny to me. Like it makes so many of their theories and metas about House Targaryen null and void.
But one thing that does take the enjoyment out of watching their tailspin is when they accuse GRRM or even the HOTD writers of adding it in after the fact to retcon things. This is blatantly wrong.
The Prince that was Promised prophecy is directly referenced in the dream. The propht is something that had been established by GRRM in ASOIAF. It's referenced multiple times, especially in relation to House Targaryen. It's the reason why Aerys and Rhaella were made to be married, Rhaegar talks about it in Daenerys' vision, and Maester Aemon talks about it. The only time it's not referenced in relation to the Targaryens is Melisandre and Stannis, which is a false reading of the prophecy.
The Targaryens have had dreams about apocalyptic events before, and the Prince that was Promised has massive textual significance to the house. Other houses don't talk about or even seem to know about the prophecy. Therefore, no it's not pulled out of thin air that the prophecy came to them as well as to the Red Priests, neither is it a very big leap in logic. Also, no, Aegon's dream was not made up by the HOTD writers, George was the one who brought it up to them.
So, no, Targ antis and TG stans, Aegon's dream is not something the HOTD writers or GRRM pulled out of their asses. Also the books aren't over yet, so it's not retconning anything if George writes it in (and he did), it's just revealing something he's going to go into in the books. Just because you're bitter about House Targaryen's importance and Rhaenyra's rightful claim doesn't mean you can go accusing the writers of being shitty without evidence. There's plenty of other instances of the HOTD writers being shitty that actually exist.
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asoiafcanonjonsnow · 1 month
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Jon's Journey Through Melisandre's Visions
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"A grey girl on a dying horse. Daggers in the dark. A promised prince, born in smoke and salt. It seems to me that you make nothing but mistakes, my lady. Where is Stannis? What of Rattleshirt and his spearwives? Where is my sister?" - Jon XIII, ADWD
It's fascinating to see that Jon narrates Melisandre's visions as they unfold in his life. Each part of her prophecy seems to play out for him. First, Alys Karstark's arrival matches the grey girl on the dying horse. Then, Jon experiences betrayal, mirroring the daggers in the dark. Now, with the possibility of Jon's resurrection, could the promised prince part of the prophecy be next?
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evax3 · 1 year
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DAENERYS APPRECIATION MONTH | Day 7: Underrated visions, dreams and prophecies hosted by @fireandbloodsource and @asoiafdaenerysdaily​
Azor Ahai – The Prince that Was Promised
“What fools we were, who thought ourselves so wise! The error crept in from the translation. Dragons are neither male nor female, Barth saw the truth of that, but now one and now the other, as changeable as flame. The language misled us all for a thousand years. Daenerys is the one, born amidst salt and smoke. The dragons prove it.” Just talking of her seemed to make him stronger. [...]
“The sword is wrong, she has to know that… light without heat… an empty glamor… the sword is wrong, and the false light can only lead us deeper into darkness, Sam. Daenerys is our hope. Tell them that, at the Citadel. Make them listen.” – Maester Aemon [Sam IV, A Feast For Crows]
“From smoke and salt was she born to make the world anew. She is Azor Ahai returned… and her triumph over darkness will bring a summer that will never end… death itself will bend its knee, and all those who die fighting in her cause shall be reborn.” – Haldon Halfmaester [Tyrion IV, A Dance With Dragons]
“When the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt to wake dragons out of stone. Dragonstone is the place of smoke and salt.”
Jon had heard all this before. “Stannis Baratheon was the Lord of Dragonstone, but he was not born there. He was born at Storm's End, like his brothers.” – Jon and Melisandre [Jon X, A Dance With Dragons]
...because Dany is Azor Ahai and Jon is Nissa Nissa and I will defend this theory until my last breath. 
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the-wanderer · 1 month
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From my blood come the Prince That Was Promised and his will be the Song of Ice and Fire
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Jon (Aegon) and Daenerys = The Prince/Princess That Was Promised (at least in the GoT show, we'll have to wait and see the book outcome)
The last Targaryens
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lightofthewst · 10 months
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“no one ever looked for a girl," he said. "it was a prince that was promised, not a princess. rhaegar, I thought…”
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“what fools we were, who thought ourselves so wise! the error crept in from the translation. dragons are neither male nor female, barth saw the truth of that, but now one and now the other, as changeable as flame. the language misled us all for a thousand years. daenerys is the one, born amidst salt and smoke. the dragons prove it." just talking of her seemed to make him stronger."i must go to her. i must. would that i was even ten years younger."
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belladonna-nights · 1 year
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My favorite dead guy <3
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I have a couple of jumbled thoughts about how King Arthur’s legend connects to ASOIAF, mainly in relation to the three children of destiny in the story. I’m talking about Daenerys Targaryen, Bran Stark, and Jon Snow. I was mainly thinking about how each of them would fit into the concept of a “once and future king” - really the idea of the return of the true king - and the concept of “pulling a sword out of a stone” as a miracle that proves the true king’s identity (i.e., Arthur pulling a sword out of a stone to signify that he is the true king of the Britons).
Daenerys
So right off the bat, Dany is a very obvious Arthurian parallel. She’s already got the prophesied savior thing down but what’s most interesting is that she’s already had her pulling a sword out of a stone moment; hers happens at the beginning of her story/hero’s journey. At the end of AGOT, she birthed dragons from stone, an act that cemented her status as Azor Ahai and also the true Targaryen heir. It’s interesting to think about how Azor Ahai and King Arthur intersect because part of the Arthurian legend (that makes him the once and future king) is that when Britain is covered in darkness and needs him most, then Arthur shall be reborn. Dany’s dragons are born at the tail end of AGOT to parallel the return of the Others in the beginning of the book. So Dany takes on the role of King Arthur in that way. Darkness has returned to Westeros and as the legend of Azor Ahai goes, the king must return (with his mythical sword) to lead/save his people.
Dany birthing the dragons from stone essentially signifies her rising as the true king to save her people from the darkness. Dragons have been likened to swords in ASOIAF so Dany, the king who is risen again, pulls three metaphoric swords out of stones. No one can deny that she is the true king either because she is the only one to have woken dragons in centuries. And thinking about Arthur and his sword in the stone, he pulled his out publicly; there were witnesses who could attest to the miracle. That’s the same thing with Dany. The birth of the dragons (the metaphoric swords) was done publicly - that’s why she is hailed as “the Unburnt”. Her miracle being a public spectacle is very important.
Another thing about Dany being a very public (and undeniable) true king is that she is set to contrast Stannis Baratheon. Stannis is introduced in ACOK as Azor Ahai but almost immediately, it’s clear that he is not the prophesied hero. He does not check any elements of the prophecy; in fact his wizard tries to shoehorn him into the prophecy instead of having him be a more organic hero. And Stannis supposedly pulls a sword out of a stone, by forging Lightbringer, but his is fake. Stannis’ Lightbringer is not the real deal. Its fire does not give off any heat (as noted by Maester Aemon) and he has woken no dragons from stone. Melisandre is trying to create an opportunity for that to happen though, which might be how Shireen dies (as Stannis tries to recreate Azor Ahai’s Nissa Nissa).
But then Dany has woken dragons from stone. Dany’s Lightbringer is literally fire made flesh. So while Stannis is not Azor Ahai, Daenerys is. And it’s also interesting that both Dany and Stannis claim to be the true king of the seven kingdoms. So GRRM gives us two versions of the true king, but one seems to be more aligned with fantasy conventions than the other. Note that Melisandre refers to Azor Ahai as the king in her ADWD chapter. So if Azor Ahai is the true king and if Dany is Azor Ahai, then Dany is the true king (I’m talking about this from a purely fantasy perspective).
So yeah, Dany is pretty close to King Arthur in how she fulfills the role of the prophesied savior. And as the sword in the stone proved that Arthur was the true king, then the dragons prove that Dany is the true savior (as noted by Maester Aemon).
Bran Stark
Bran, on the other hand, is a little trickier to pinpoint. He doesn’t have anything that outwardly (and obviously) marks him as the prophesied savior; contrast this to Dany who has her three dragons and is Azor Ahai Reborn. It even seems like his story is moving him further and further away from the Arthurian framework. We all know that quote from GRRM about how Bran appears to be a young King Arthur in the beginning of AGOT, that is until he gets defenestrated by Jaime Lannister. Bran can’t follow in King Arthur’s footsteps to become a knight, but he does gain magical powers and becomes the closest thing to a wizard boy in ASOIAF.
But I don’t think that Bran’s connections to the mythical king are severed. That’s because he’s still connected to the Fisher King myth (which is an Arthurian myth). Bran’s story seems to be a reconstructed version of young King Arthur’s; the fantasy version. In a way, I’d argue that Bran is a weird blending of the knight, the wizard, and the king. That’s because as Bran builds his magical powers, he sits on a weirwood throne; this weirwood throne connects him to his regal lineage. He’s the (soon to be) last greenseer all while being the reigning (though exiled) Prince of the North and of Winterfell. The two destinies (wizard and king) are not separated imo, but rather combined. He’s got elements of both Arthur and Merlin. He’s the Fisher King and he is also Sir Percival; instead of waiting for someone to heal him and the land, he will do it himself. Like Daenerys, Bran is a magical child of destiny. He seems to be following the last hero’s footsteps and will definitely be one of the saviors of the world. So his weirwood throne is quite indicative of the blending of the wizard and the king.
One of my favorite quotes about Bran is how he thinks that Old Nan is conflating him with the previous Brandon Starks who lived before him. To Old Nan, he is Brandon the Shipwright and Brandon the Burner; he’s Brandon the daughterless and Brandon the Breaker; and he is Brandon the Builder come again. In the same way that Daenerys is the accumulation of House Targaryen’s legacy, Bran Stark is the physical manifestation of House Stark and its history and magical calling. So in a sense, Bran is the ‘once and future king’. Like his ancestors, he is and will be the King of Winter. So then I have to wonder what his ‘pulling a sword out of a stone’ moment will be. I don’t think it’s happened yet actually. I think it’s something that might happen much later in the story.
First, we have to identify what Bran’s sword will be. Dany has her dragons (figurative swords) so I think it’s also possible for Bran’s to be non-literal. I think it will be his magic, whatever powers he manages to gain as he trains under Bloodraven (who imo, is the twisted Merlin to Bran’s Arthur). Since Bran is connected to the myth of the Fisher King, I think his story is more about healing. This already seems to be the case as he’s connected to Brandon the Builder who arose during the age of heroes. Brandon the Builder is credited with having crafted (or having helped to craft) several magical structures all over Westeros; he presumably built these after the Long Night. So I think that’s going to be the same for Bran the Rebuilder. Once the wars are fought and the dawn has come again, Bran Stark will follow his ancestor’s footsteps to help the land heal by building new structures all over Westeros.
Like Dany, I think Bran’s miracle has to be a public spectacle so that it can serve justification for him rising to kingship. The true king is the one who heals the land after all. So I’m thinking of his sword in the stone moment being more akin to Aragorn in LOTR. In Return of the King, Aragorn is hailed as king because he’s a healer. The people hear stories of a healer and this serves as the signal that their true king has returned to them. If Bran is to follow the Fisher King/Arthurian framework, I can see this being his ending. He will be shown to have healing abilities, and this causes the people to rally behind him and proclaim him king. There’s even real world basis for this since there was the belief, in medieval times, that the king’s hands had healing powers.
Perhaps for Bran the Rebuilder, healing = building. And building will require magic. Perhaps he will start to build things slowly throughout ADOS until after the Others are finally defeated and his work is presented to the world. What that looks like though, I’m not entirely sure. But if it’s a physical structure that represents the return of light and life (and healing) to the land, I’m thinking that it could be similar to the Hightower which is said to have been built by Bran the Builder (or his son). The Hightower has a beacon of fire at its top which provides light for incoming ships. Also note that the Hightower is likened to a sword in the books so it’s essentially a sword (made) out of stone; that it’s a fiery sword gives Lightbringer vibes. But building a physical structure takes years and we may not have time for that, so perhaps Bran may raise a magical structure that will serve as the foundation for something much bigger. He could even enlist the help of the children of the forest (and giants lent by Jon Snow) before they die completely.
A few other closing thoughts about Bran, I’ve said before that Bran is a reconstructed version of young King Arthur. I plan to do a deeper dive of this later on but there are times where Bran seems to be following some of Arthur’s footsteps. If anyone has read The Once and Future King by T. H. White, Bran (imo) seems to be a reconstructed Wart. Like Wart, Bran’s journey is kickstarted by the arrival of the king. There’s hunting, knights, and monsters involved in both stories. Wart also meets a wizard, Merlin, who introduces him to a world of magic. Merlin teaches young Wart how to become different animals at one point in The Sword in the Stone. That sounds an awful lot like what Bran Stark is currently doing. Bran is going to Merlin’s Bloodraven’s school of magic, and is learning to assume the conscious of different beings (ravens, weirwoods, his direwolf, even poor Hodor). So I expect Bran’s sword out of a stone moment, like Wart’s, to happen towards the end of the story; except Bran’s sword won’t be literal but figurative.
Jon Snow
If there’s a character who will probably follow the Arthurian framework to a tee in ASOIAF, I bet that it’s Jon Snow. Jon is King Arthur, down to his very conception and birth; Rhaegar and Lyanna seem to be GRRM’s version of Uther and Igraine, but some would argue that they also parallel Lancelot and Guinevere and/or Elaine and Lancelot. In this way, Jon has connections to the Fisher King myth, and he could also be a blend of Arthur and Galahad. Jon is the prince in hiding (like Wart was in The Sword in the Stone), and he might even be the true king; remember that the black bastard is the real king of the castle. And along with Daenerys, Jon is the other half of the Azor Ahai/prince that was promised legend.
Many readers have noted that Jon’s story parallels Dany’s, but few recognize that his story and Bran’s are also linked. Where Jon shares Valyrian legends with Dany, he also shares some of the northern legends (e.g., the last hero) with Bran; so the legends of ice and fire converge and blend into Jon Snow. I believe that Jon and Bran are two separate versions of Wart from TOAFK. But where Bran’s story is an upended version where a few detours lead to the boy-wizard and the boy-king blending into one, Jon’s story follows the narrative beats of an archetypal hidden prince who is destined to be king; so really Wart’s story without the many diversions which is the more archetypal blend of the knight/warrior and the king. Just like Bran’s story, there are knights, monsters, wizards, and kings in Jon’s; though Bran’s story is a great deal more fantastical. What’s interesting is that Merlin is a little more hands off in Jon’s story than in Bran’s. Bran is eager to learn magic from his wizard mentor but Jon is not. So Bran gets the full experience of being tutored by a wise wizard mentor whereas his brother is left to his own devices; imo I think this is because Bran is Arthur as the wizard whereas Jon is Arthur as the knight. Jon has Bloodraven (arguably one of ASOIAF’s Merlin figures) who takes a more hands off approach with how he offers guidance; Bloodraven gives him cryptic advice in the form of Mormont’s raven. But Jon also has Melisandre, who is Merlin if the wisened old wizard mistook Arthur for someone else; this is how Stannis gets to the Wall to be directly contrasted with Jon Snow. One wizard knows Jon is the true king but the other doesn’t (or rather, chooses to ignore all the signs that point to his special status).
But what Jon has over Bran (and Dany) is that he has a very literal sword - Longclaw. So again, he is the typical fantasy blend of the king and the knight/warrior - as we would expect of the hidden prince. Because Jon has a literal sword, I’d expect his sword out of a stone moment to be less figurative and closer to the Arthurian framework. I don’t mean that Jon will literally find a rock and pull a sword from of it, but that he will wield a literal sword that will be representative of his identity as the true king. More specifically, I think Jon will at some point in the story wield Lightbringer, the flaming sword of heroes. There’s a bit of seeding for this in ADWD, where Jon dreams of himself armored in black ice and wielding a sword that burns red. Here, Jon is very obviously being marked as the legendary hero (further confirmed by Mel’s numerous visions).
So if Jon will wield a literal sword but if he won’t pull it out of a literal stone, what will be the miraculous moment for him? It could be that his literal death and rebirth will be the public spectacle needed to cement him as the hero reborn, but it could be something else that marks him as Azor Ahai. Jon has to actively “pull the sword” so his Lightbringer can’t be something that comes by accident/passively. Imo Jon has to actively forge/create Lightbringer for it to count as a sword out of a stone moment. Since Dany is our blueprint for fulfilling the Azor Ahai miracle, I have to note that multiple things happened in her last AGOT chapter. The first was the birth of the dragons and the second was her surviving the fire. So Jon’s “sword out of a stone” miracle will have to be separate from him surviving/rising from death. And Dany’s miracle signifies her role as Azor Ahai: she is the mother of dragons, the fire to the Others’ ice. So what’s Jon’s Azor Ahai role?
I think GRRM has already given us a peak of what Jon’s role as Azor Ahai will be. In ASOS, Jon has one of his recurring Winterfell crypt dreams and at some point, he sees that the world is plunged into darkness. Once that happens, he remarks that “a light had gone out somewhere”. Well earlier in the book, Jaime Lannister had a seemingly prophetic dream where he was in the bowels of Casterly Rock holding a flaming sword. At some point, the flames of Jaime’s sword go out and death rushes in. I mean to do a much deeper analysis of how these dreams are connected but to keep things short for now, I think Jon saw the light of Jamie’s sword going out.
Why do I mention this? Well I think this will be Jon’s pulling a sword out of a stone moment. Jon sees the light go out and darkness setting in. So I think that his role in the upcoming war for the dawn will be to restore the light which has gone out from the world. As it was said that Arthur would restore Britain after a period of darkness, Jon will restore light to Westeros after the Long Night; since he was the one to see the light go out, then he must be the one to bring it back. And restoration is pretty recurrent in Jon’s story. Part of his arc as the leader of the Night’s Watch is that he is trying to restore the order back to its true purpose; I think this is represented in his ASOS and ADWD dreams, where we see light going out of a sword (ASOS dream) and light coming back and being wielded as a sword by Jon (ADWD dream). Another act of restoration - specifically the restoration of light - happens when Jon lets the wildlings through the Wall. He remarks that light comes to Castle Black in places where darkness had settled long ago.
So it might be that Jon’s Lightbringer, a flaming sword, will serve in part as a symbol of light returning to Westeros. We have Lightbringer as a sword, but we also have Jon as the one to literally bring the light; what is Lightbringer - the sword or Jon? It could be a bit of both. Jon is the sword in the darkness and he is the fire the burns against the cold, as stated by his Night’s Watch vows. And if he is reborn in a funeral pyre (as some readers believe) then he would be a dragon woken from stone. There’s a lot of potential for different things to serve as Jon’s public miracle. He could be the sword to be lit up or it could be that a different (literal) sword has to be obtained.
But since Jon is very closely following Arthur’s story, I expect that it will be an actual sword that will herald him as the true king risen. We have a lot of foreshadowing of Jon ending up as some sort of king and given that he is a deconstruction (not subversion) of the fantasy hidden prince-to-king archetype, I expect this rise to kingship to happen at the end of his story (as it happened for Aragorn, Cor, Seoman Snowlock, etc.); of course, GRRM will put his own spin on it. I’ve actually started to come around to the idea that Jon won’t be king in Winds but in Dream. I think that might be more aligned with some of the themes presented in the story. Because Stannis says that the correct order is to save the kingdom to win it. Given that this is said in a Jon chapter, I think it’s meant to serve as the blueprint/foreshadowing for the true Azor Ahai’s (Jon Snow) journey. Jon will save the kingdom, which will then lead to him to winning it. And if we go back to Jon being one of GRRM’s deconstructed/reconstructed Warts, then Arthur became king at the end of The Sword in the Stone. Which might mean that Jon’s flaming sword of light might be forged toward the end of ADOS to signify his rise to kingship; and to parallel Dany’s sword in the stone appearing in book one.
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mattyalwayssmokesweed · 11 months
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I really hope Jaime is the Valonqar in Cersei’s prophecy, firstly because it would represent he has finally broken free from her circle of abuse, and secondly because him chocking her with the same gold hand she gifted him is too poetic.
That being said, if it’s not Jaime I don’t want it to be Tyrion, because he already got his “revenge” with Tywin— I want it to be Arya, to fully cement the the misogyny in westeros and the way they interprete prophecies; Daenerys is the Prince that was Promised, and Arya the Little Brother— especially because Jon always calls her little sister
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lenskyq · 11 months
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to deny that Daenerys is a clear candidate for the role of Azor Ahai/TPTWP, and to state that the only real Azor Ahai will be Jon Snow, people like to use an argument related to Rhaegar and prophecy. allegedly, Rhaegar ran away with Lyanna because of the prophecy, because he believed that their child would turn out to be the Promised Prince, that because of this, Rhaegar provoked Robert's Rebellion, that Rhaegar ordered the pregnant Lyanna to be guarded at all costs, and if after all this Azor Ahai turns out not to be Jon, then this allegedly would not make any sense.
let's miss the fact that before the book comes out, we can't be 100% sure what really happened between Rhaegar and Lyanna, what were the motives of Rhaegar, etc. the theory that this is related to prophecy makes a lot of sense, given Rhaegar's fascination with prophecy, but it's by- it's just a theory. I don't want to remember the HBO adaptation, but if believe it (we won't do that), then Rhaegar ran away with Lyanna only because of love. no other motive other than "love" was mentioned, even the theory that Rhaegar was motivated by a prophecy was not confirmed in the show.
anyway let's just take it on faith that Rhaegar did what he did because he believed that TPTWP would be born from their union with Lyanna. this does not change the fact that Dany is still the most likely Azor Ahai, who fulfilled literally every point of the prophecy. but now it looks even more interesting.
Rhaegar ran away with Lyanna and provoked Robert's rebellion, which destroyed the entire Targaryen House because he believed it would lead to the birth of TPTWP. He believed that TPTWP would turn out to be his son, but the prophecy is insidious, remember? Before that, Rhaegar thought first of himself, then of his son from Elia. The actions of Rhaegar, which he performed to fulfill the prophecy, led to the fact that pregnant Rhaella, along with eight-year-old Viserys, were forced to flee to Dragonstone, and in the greatest storm in the history of Westeros, Daenerys Stormborn was born, born among the smoke and salt.
Because of what Rhaegar did, his dynasty was destroyed. Daenerys and her abusive older brother were forced to survive on the streets until she was sold into sexual marital slavery to Khal Drogo so that Viserys could get an army and recapture the Iron Throne from the man who took it from the Targaryen dynasty because Rhaegar took Lyanna from this man. At the wedding with Khal Drogo, Daenerys was presented with three dragon eggs. she entered the funeral pyre with them, seeing the bleeding star, and woke up the dragons from the stone.
Daenerys has always been underestimated. she was never considered a worthy candidate. Viserys sold her to a Dothraki to make himself king, Illyrio has been secretly working all this time for the ascent of the Young Griff, and he certainly did not even think that even if Daenerys survives, she will become a powerful queen in her own right. would it be not surprising that Rhaegar would sweep her aside and not even take her into the equation, believed that TPTWP would be his son? because "no one thought about the girl, a prince was promised, not a princess." but again Daenerys deceived the man's expectations.
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ohnoitsmyra · 1 year
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elizabethtudors · 2 years
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on prophecy and house of the dragon
grrm likes a good prophecy.  no prophecy rules larger over asoiaf than the prince that was promised prophecy.  it is quite literally the titular role.  therefore, it was quite interesting to me and many others when in the opening episode of house of the dragon, that very prophecy pops up.
at first, I read introduction of the prophecy as a sort of tragedy of the greek chorus.  we see viserys explicitly tell rhaenyra that aegon the conqueror thought that of his blood would come the prince that was promised to save the people from a long winter and his would be the song of ice and fire.  note, the show uses the word “prince” not the more gender neutral expression of “dragon” of the original prophecy as pointed out by maester aemon in affc.  I assumed, especially when viserys repeats elements of this prophecy to alicent in episode three in the form of his own personal dragon dreams that this was to be a case of tragic foresight.  the obsession for a male heir to be the prince that was promised is only extra tragic when we, the viewers and readers, know that obsession of viserys that would pass down to his daughter would be at the centre of an event that would kill off the targaryens in a way they never recovered from, all because they didn’t as aemon pointed out in affc “look for a girl.”  instead, rhaenyra and her claim is usurped for her bother, a male claim.  the irony that likely when the prince is promised finally arrives, it is likely dany, a woman, who fulfils that destiny (according to aemon at least).  
and while I think that reading is still a part of the tragedy, what the latest episode showed it’s actually more complicated than that.  we see rhaenyra struggle with the burden of legacy as viserys did in episode three by saying to viserys that she feels as though the burden is too heavy.  viserys is too weak to tell rhaenyra that she is the prince that was promised.  he does manage to mistakingly tell it to alicent though.  alicent, unaware of this prophecy of the burden that is passed from king to heir, believes that the aegon he is speaking to is their aegon.  viserys’ dream for a male heir, an heir named for the man whose dream he passed on to his daughter, brings forth nothing but destruction in its wake when the hightowers name him king in rhaenyra’s stead.  all because of a prophecy, a secret, that alicent does not have the language or knowledge to understand.
the first blood that alicent draws in the dance is from the dagger with aegon’s prophecy.  where to rhaenyra, that dagger is symbolic of her history, of heritage and prophecy, to alicent, it is merely another blade.  the same is true when viserys tells alicent of the prophecy and aegon’s dream.  to her, it is just another name and surely a symbol that her son is chosen to rule by viserys.  to viserys, it is his dying plea that he believes in his daughter.  this prophecy element in house of the dragon isn’t just a tragedy of gender but also one of heritage.  it is the blunt knife that will cut viserys’ children into two.  no one ever bothered looking for a girl just as no one bothered explaining why the targaryens believe they are divinely fit to rule westeros to an outsider like alicent.  and the realm will burn fire and blood for it.
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the-not-so-dark-age · 6 months
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Some random thoughts on Daenerys and Rhaegar's role as character to serve Daenerys' story
Thinking again about "the dragon must have three heads" and I'm 99% sure it's all meant to be Daenerys, she is the dragon and her dragons are the three heads
She needs no men to fulfill her destiny as the Prince(ss) Who Was Promised and as Azor Ahai, rather all the men who will try to be another head of the dragon will bring pain upon her or themselves, and Quentyn Martell imo is proof of this; Young Griff won't likely ally with Dany and rather cause more destruction and while I hope Jon won't kill Dany like in the show I think he'll be a bigger problem if he's resurrected and comes back a LOT different. These men don't make things easier for Dany but rather they are actual or potential obstacles for her in her mission to save the world (Quentyn is already dead but surely Dorne won't be happy that he died due to Dany's dragons while she was absent and after she had married another man even if he proposed)
And of course Hizdahr isn't one of the three heads even if I don't think he's actually plotting against Dany (he's still very suspicious tho)
But aside from all the proofs we already have in the book and that are kinda explicit (like the "born amidst smoke and salt" etc) I think another proof is Rhaegar.
Yeah the guy himself. I've just said Dany needs no man but I think Rhaegar having some positive usefulness to the plot of a female character would be nice
First of all, something that really hit me in ACOK during the House of Undying chapter was the scene Dany saw of Rhaegar, Aegon and Elia and how Rhaegar looks straight into Daenerys while he's saying "There must be one more. The dragon has three heads".
Daenerys is the one more head. She is the dragon too at the same time, Drogon/Viserion/Rhaegal being the three heads; but Daenerys wasn't born yet and Rhaegar was convinced he needed to fulfill the prophecy, be it with Elia or Lyanna.
Second proof is again from the House of the Undying visions, the one of a dying prince in the water which is 99% Rhaegar: as he died he said a woman's name...and I think it was "Daenerys". Not Lyanna, not Visenya (if he hoped for another girl to recreate the original conquerors trio), not Elia nor Rhaenys
Daenerys wasn't born yet the moment Rhaegar died on the Trident but we know many characters have prophetic dreams so maybe in his very last moments Rhaegar understood he didn't need to make Elia or Lyanna give him more children...because Daenerys would be the person he'd waited for his whole life. He should have just waited a bit more and he would have met her...
It would be extremely bitter and it fits Martin's style, it would make you wonder if it had all been for "nothing", if Rhaegar didn't need to kidnap Lyanna etc (even tho the rebellion had other causes and Rhaegar and Lyanna are just one of them, and sooner or later someone would have surely fought against a king like Aerys II)
Third proof which links Rhaegar to be himself a proof that Dany is TPTWP is another dream Dany has in AGOT, after the miscarriage and while she has a high fever: she sees a knigh in black armor, Rhaegar, but when she opens his visor she actually sees her own face. I think this could mean Rhaegar, the man who was considered to be the prince that was promised, the last dragon is just the herald to the real last dragon, the real prince that was promised, the dragon with three heads: Daenerys.
His whole existence has been about that: first he believed to be the prince, then he understood he had to make way for the prince and that was Rhaegar's life mission. So while he did make a mess for "nothing" since TPTWP wouldn't come from his blood (in the strict sense of parental relation - again for me because I'm almost sure it's Daenerys and not Young Griff nor Jon Snow), in some way he may still "help" in recognizing and finding the real TPTWP even if he's doing it in other people's visions and he's long been dead. And more so, this would give Rhaegar a much more active role in Daenerys' arc rather than just being a mythical and nostalgic story people tell her, putting him as a concrete and "positive" (in the sense his character won't directly harm Dany) contrast to Viserys, who's had a deep impact on Daenerys but on the negative sense since he was an abuser to her.
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the-wanderer · 27 days
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Wonder when Aegon the Conqueror had his dream about the long night & the great war, if he ever considered it would be his dagger that killed the night king
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