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snek-disappearedagain · 3 months
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my idea for how we can solve the kalim and jamil drama is everyone reads the jp translations of chapter 4 instead of relying on the en translations because the en translations messed up and changed a lot of things which. yk. not good. so like whenever anyone gets the chance please read the jp translations on the mirahaze twst wiki, not just for chapter 4 but also probably for the fireworks silk event because a bunch of things were changed in that too.
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twsted-kinks · 11 months
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TWST Dick and Pussy Headcanons (NSFW)
>minors and ageless dni<
Content warning: Descriptions of genitals. Includes terms dick, cock, cunt, pussy. May include kinky stuff idk yet but bdsm and piss is always possible.
Doing both Scarabia and Ignihyde cause not a lot of characters, so I am doing both dorms.
Parts: Heartslabyul, Savanaclaw, Octavinelle, Scarabia & Ignihyde (here), Pomefiore, Diasomnia
Kalim
Pussy
Boy's got a pussy just as cute as he is. Kalim has a lot of pubic hair that is kept clean. He has a cute happy trail thats fun to run your fingers through. Kalim doesn't have a high libido. His is actually either kinda low or he just doesn't have too much of an interest in sex. He'll jerk off from time to time, but he just isn't super into it. He'll rarely ever instigate sex, but you can rile him up. I think he's probably somewhere on the ace spectrum, maybe demi, I'm not sure and neither is he. He just knows he likes you and enjoys having sex with you. He doesn't really explore himself when he jerks off and just kinda just does the bare minimum to get off. So, when you fuck him and take the time to figure his body out he is having the biggest orgasm of his life. Kalim is mostly vanilla and doesn't really come into the relationship with any kinks. If you help him try different things out, he'll discover he likes role-playing scenarios cause it's fun and he likes when you sit on his face. He doesn't really share too many kinks with you, but he's willing to try most if them out. Over time he gets turned on by the kinks not because of the kink itself but because of his association with the kink and you.
Dick
Kalim's cock is on the smaller side, around 4 inches (10 cm) but has a good thickness. He isn't really massive fan of penetration at first, both giving and receiving, but he's willing to try things out and figure out what he likes with you. He actually prefers using toys on you and watching you cum because of him more than anything else. He likes when you do the same for him. His favorite position is 69 cause you're both pleasing each other at the same time. He loves to use his mouth and he loves when you use yours.
Jamil
Dick
Jamil has a good size of about 6 inches (~16cm) with his cock being on the thinner side. His cock angles down a bit when hard. Jamil's balls are just a bit saggy, and he loves having you on your back so he can be fully in your mouth and his balls in resting on your face. He has a good amount of pubic hair he keeps nicely trimmed with a thick but short happy trail. Sex is a form of stress relief for Jamil, so expect a lot of him being a rough dom to get stuff out of his system. Sometimes he just wants to fuck you rough and hard, be cruel to you and make you cum from him using you like a sex toy. Sometimes he just wants to relax and make you suck him off and/or ride him while putting little effort in. Either way he's usually in control. Still, it's not that he never subs or bottoms. He just doesn't do it often. When he does sub, he wants to be a pillow princess and be taken care of. Be a caring service dom and he will melt under you. Put him first and make sure he cums and is satisfied and he'll fall even harder in love.
Pussy
Jamil has a decent sized clit that hides behind trimmed pubic hair. He enjoys fucking and riding your face. Just you sucking on his clit drives him crazy. His favorite thing to do though is peg you. He likes watching you tear up and choke on his strap while he fucks your throat and use your holes as he pleases. He likes to take you apart, watch you crumble as each time you cum drains you more, and then make you suck him off until he cums all over your face. He's a bit apprehensive to bottoming, but trusts you enough to try it. He finds he enjoys when you're gentle with him and take the time to build him up and make him cum around you. He loves and hates how vulnerable it makes him feel.
Idia
Dick
It was hard to decide if he has a micropenis or a big fucking dick. Decided on big dick because him struggling to hide boners is funny. One of the big reasons he's terrified of being in public is that he's easily turned on and there's just no way to hide a boner when he gets hard. His cock is just barely over 10 inches (~26 cm) long and is hefty. When fully hard, you can't wrap your hand fully around the shaft. The tip is the same blue as his lips with the gradient going to his skin color by the time you get to the base. His pubes are like his hair, blue fire thats warm to the touch that turn pink when he's turned on. He has a thick happy trail that goes up to his belly button. His balls hang a bit and are pretty heavy. Also, fun fact: his cum is a light blue that glows :). He has a high libido and basically has to go multiple rounds. He can't be satisfied just cumming once. He's been overstimulating himself for years and is able to cum 5-7 times when alone regularly. He's even challenged himself and been able to get over 10 orgasms. Once he gets to around 10 orgasms though, there's a good chance he's going to piss himself cause of overstimulation. Idia is a serious perv with lots of kinks, so he has a lot of toys, a good chunk he's either modified or just made himself. He has hacked into different electronic toys to program different and more intense vibrations along with making machines for his dildos and fleshlights that fuck him. He needs the machines cause all his blood goes to his cock and he can't think when horny. Idia is a total verse who leans sub. If you're scared of his cock, he'll be kinda sad but also would be perfectly happy if you put his cock in a cage and just use his ass. If you want him to fuck you, there's two possibilities. One is where you're still in charge and you're allowing him to fuck you (he'll be thanking you so much), or there's when he actually feels dominant for once. If you want him to treat you dominant and rough, you either have to offer to sub for him when he's in a bad mood or get him really jealous. He will destroy your cock/hole(s) if you give him the go ahead.
Pussy
Idia's got a fat fucking clit and the pussy of a size queen. He can also cum a lot, and I mean... just about every time he masturbates he orgasms in the double digits. He loves having a dildo machine fuck his ass and pussy with a vibe at the highest intensity abusing his clit. He also has to make everything waterproof because he'll drench everything. It's not that when he squirts it's a lot (it has a faint blue glow it). It's that he squirts again and again in succession. He also struggles with bladder control when fucking. His brain is gone and he's already squirting a lot, so there's a good chance he's gonna piss himself if he overstimulates a lot. He's gonna panic the first time he does that in front of you and feel mortified. But, if you show that you're into it, he's gonna blue screen but also be super happy and turned on.
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aquaburst3 · 5 months
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I've seen a post where OP received an ask from someone saying that they received hate accusing them of being "less of a fan" because they play only the ENG version, and OP went on a huge rant accusing ENG fans who prefer the JP version of pulling this shit. To be honest, I disagree with OP and think this is a JP speaking only fandom exclusive thing. Hell, it seems like the person who sent this ask was trying to make that point, but didn't articulate it well.
I've been in the ENG TWST fandom since Scarabia dropped on the JP servers. I've NEVER seen anyone on this side of the fandom say that ENG only players are stupid idiots that are unable to handle the "greatness" of the "true version". Not once. (To be honest, even the Japanese version has massive writing issues and is very flawed. I've lobbed criticism at it plenty of times before. But that's another topic completely.) Granted, there might be some people Twitter spouting this BS out that I'm not aware of, considering I don't have an account on there, but even I find that unlikely.
For the most part, I've seen fellow ENG speaking JP players recommend watching the fansubs over playing the official version. That's understandable thanks to the 4Kids-like censorship (erasing Azul's ED, changing the Scarabia Dou's backstory to the point Jamil seems like a completely different character, scrapping all of the instances where Jamil calls Kalim his "master" and the swearing, getting rid of all of the hints of the Asims being off-screen villains, etc) and weird writing choices. Hell, I highly recommend anyone getting into this fandom to watch the fan subs instead as well! There's a difference between recommending the original and genuinely looking down upon someone for only playing the official English one. One is being helpful while other just makes you a dick.
People have less off a right to do that in this fandom. This isn't a typical dub vs sub situation where one side has perfectly understandable reasons to pick one over the other like blindness or being neurospicy. Even I admit I prefer dubs unless they are super inaccurate like YGO or Tokyo Mew Mew. Both versions of the game are subtitled in Japanese.
That's why I suspect this is more of a thing for JP speaking only fans than anyone international. Because I've seen the Asian fan base act haughty and holier than thou about this sorta thing in other fandoms. (Looking at you Asian Persona and Danganronpa fandoms). From what I heard, the JP TWST fandom is no different.
Don't get it twisted. If you think I'm deflecting the blame, I'm not. While the ENG speaking fandom is far from being the most toxic fandom I've been a part of, if anything it's about average, it has countless issues as well. Not tagging posts correctly, the hate lobbed at content creators no matter what gender "Yuu" you create, misinformation spreading around like wildfire, stupid fandom hot takes like accusing characters like Vil of "being racist" over stupid shit, sadly usual actual racism and queerphobia that springs up in all western fandoms, etc. I just don't think this one is particular is one of them.
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driedupeyeballs · 2 months
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30 for the twst ask thing!!
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30. What’s your hottest Twst take?
Got a little out of hand here
Honestly idk if I have any hot takes I’m vanilla as fuck
Shipping Rugkali is my hottest take 😔 /j
Idk I’ll try??
Ok I’m like. The bigggest fucking Scarabia fan to an obnoxious degree and I am very passionate abt the fact that there was no villain in that arc and both kalim and Jamil were neither in the right nor in the wrong but I feel like that isn’t super controversial?? Also I could probably talk abt book four for multiple hours unending so let’s not open tjat can of worms
I do have some ship takes that would get me hung at the gallows by certain ppl tho like I do NOT like Leomal or jamikali rlly any rook ship (I don’t mind rookvil I actually kinda like it but anything else is HWEEh *chill runs down my body* but that may just be bcuz I don’t like rook-)
Is not liking rook a hot take?? I know I’m not the only rook hater in this shit. Ok I don’t hate him but like. HES WEIRD. HES WEIRD AND I DONT LIKE HIM. OR HIS HAIR
I DONT LIKE SEBEK EITHER THERES A TAKE
He has grown on me I will admit he has definitely grown on me (also I haven’t played book 7 yet) BUT unfortunately he is also annoying 💔
I got way off topic there but yeah ship takes I don’t get why Leomal and jamikali are like some of the most popular ships cuz like I love a good enemies/rivals to lovers just as much as the next guy but Leomal just… the vibes… the vibes are off
And don’t even get me STARTED on jamikali AAAA their dynamic is so interesting as like a non romantic thing and I am so fascinated by them I love fics of them that don’t ship them esp angst IF YOU HAVE ANY NON SHIP SCARABIA FIC RECS GIVE THEM TO ME IMMEDIATELY
OK WAIT I KNOW WHAT MY HOTTEST TAKE IS
I do not find Malleus particularly attractive. Like I love his character so much and he’s so like ack I wanna eat him and like. Have a long philosophical discussion w him and I definitely see the appeal w fanart n stuff but his canon design just doesn’t do it for me… idk why cuz like he doesn’t have any archetypes or design choices i dislike like generally I love long haired characters n like the tall dark and handsome type and horns n whatnot idk what it is abt him??? And even in some of his card arts I can see it like his broomquet groovy and he is OBJECTIVELY pretty jsut not like anymore than most of the other cast imo??? Maybe it’s just his live2d??? Idk idk I love malleus but I just don’t think he’s as hot as everyone considers him? Am I gonna be hung? Crucified? Idk. This was a rant and a half thanks for coming
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Why do you play twst en if you hate it sm?
Firstly, I don’t “hate” TWST EN, nor have I ever stated that I feel that way about it. All I’ve ever done is point out differences that I feel impact how the work or its characters can be interpreted between the two versions and expressed my disagreement about some things in EN (albeit sometimes in an over-the-top way). It’s an area of great interest for me as a writer, as official content informs how I myself portray the characters and the world in my own works 💦 I’d appreciate it if you didn’t make assumptions about what my feelings are about the localization, especially if you’re going to use a word as strong as “hate”.
Even in my earliest discussions of TWST EN, I’ve only ever referred to the localization as a “mixed bag”. In my initial reaction post, I am fairly balanced about the matter and state things that I liked, that I disliked, and that I was neutral on. At no point do I blindly rage about EN, imply that TWST JP is somehow “superior”, or tear others down for enjoying EN or for working on the localization team. I try my best to speak mindfully and to explain my thought process when I point out a discrepancy between the JP and EN. Both have their flaws, and the original material presented in JP certainly isn’t without critique. (I’ve spoken at length about my feelings on Endless Halloween Night and episode 2.)
It is possible to enjoy media while also not agreeing with every single aspect of it and being critical of the changes made. For example, I personally enjoy the puns that are often included in the localized titles for the events, and I’m interested in seeing EN’s interpretation of the characters’ lines, even if they may not be entirely accurate to the source material. In fact, I think EN nails some of them super well (especially Ace and Idia)!! Others read like entirely different characters, and that’s important to make note of. Yuu’s dialogue choices also have a lot more personality and sass in them, which I like. However, I can also disagree with some of the decisions made in localizing TWST.
Sometimes there was nothing wrong with the original to warrant a change (like unique magic in JP to signature spell in EN). Sometimes a change doesn’t make sense or is inconsistent (like, why keep Floyd’s favorite food as takoyaki in his official EN profile, but also censor takoyaki in the text for the cultural festival scene and replace it with another food entirely). Sometimes there is cut content that contributes to a character or to the story (such as the erasure of weight, the uncomfortable history between Kalim and Jamil’s family, and a whole song in episode 5). Sometimes there are blatant mistakes (misspellings, grammar errors, incorrect information) in a professional work backed by Disney and Aniplex, whose higher ups can afford to put more money and marketing into the project.
These are perfectly valid points for anyone to make, and I feel that if players notice things, then they have a right to talk about it. (That’s why the game takes feedback and patches the app to fix stuff.) It doesn’t mean that I (or anyone else that critiques EN) dislike the localization as a whole. There’s plenty to like about it, but it also isn’t free from scrutiny.
Please recognize that there is a difference between “critique” and “hate”. “Critique” is analytical and is done with the intent of sharing knowledge, having a critical discussion, or because the person giving critique cares about the work and how others perceive and react to it. “Why does this not work well? What would work better and why? What was the thinking behind this move?” This does not hurt anyone. “Hate” is a passionate dislike for the work, oftentimes without considering other points of view or the good aspects of it. Hate does hurt and/or attack people, be it fans of that work, the dev team, etc. Sharing thoughts is not a binary of “love” on one end and “hate” on the other end; nuanced thoughts are allowed and should be encouraged in fandom spaces.
I’m playing EN for the same reason that everyone else is: because I want to experience it and to have fun in my own way. There’s nothing more to it than that.
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twst-discourse-bot · 2 years
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I think I remember seeing someone say "You can't be that dark without being black." about Xinyan as if dark-skinned Asians do not exist. That's a whole can of worms....
There is also that thing Genshin antis tend to do with short characters and calling them all minors regardless of canon evidence pointing to the fact that they are not minors. i.e.: Xiao, an ancient war general; Hu Tao, a funeral parlor director; Keqing, a government official.
But sure... the funeral parlor director is 16 and the government official is 16. sure...
I guess I am a minor because short adults don't exist.
Hello anon, thanks for your message.
I certainly remember her saying that about Kalim and Jamil from TWST, so she most definitely could've said the same about Xinyan.
I am so glad I was not one of these kinds of minors when I was younger, they are SO exhausting it's just awful. I don't think they actually believe in their own words, they just want to control the fandom spaces that were started for them by adults and create these moral high ground arguments out of thin air to justify their take over.
They hate it when Mommy dearest tells them 'no', so they try their whiny routine on the internet and unfortunately, some of it gained traction. It's also another part of that "main character syndrome" that a lot of younger fans have, Jordan/Alex just takes it to an extreme.
They see themselves in these young hero characters, in American the boom was in the 2000s with characters like Katniss and Bella and the 'not like other girls' trend, and because they want to be seen as cool and capable, they claim characters that are nothing like them for dumb reasons like... being short.
I doubt a 14 year old from Illinois, or wherever she's from, would last 5 seconds in Keqing or Xiao's shoes.
There's also a sexual aspect to it, I won't give gorey details but they HATE that adults are allowed to be attracted to the same 2D character designs that they are. Have you seen the way these "minors" talk about male characters that appear to be in their 20s or 30s? Major ick.
Sorry for the rant, but I wanted to get out a bunch of stuff that I didn't have any place else to put, just more basis behind my arguments.
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Anon Asked : "You know how some twst fan artists like to draw Yuu with their face blocked out, usually by Grim? I have this headcanon that in the Twisted Wonderland universe, it’s impossible to get a picture of Yuu, there’s always someone standing in front of them, a piece of paper floating by, or they’re just out of frame, but no one noticed until after the picture was taken. No one knows why, Rook even tried to draw them once but a Pomefiore first year spilled nail polish on the picture when he finished. " I do like that idea! I did see one artist who just had a mickey shaped head with blank eyes and it really looked cool! Now as for the scenario or story i will only do Dorm leaders for this situation, if anyone wishes for more i will provide ! BUT i have a small twist :) Warnings: Cursing Riddle
Riddle wasn't sure why but he it really irritated him how whenever they did civil group pictures, you always end up blocked or something happens to you in your part of the picture
It's not your fault really but it bugs him
he made it a goal to get a perfect picture , such as asking for a selfie
He actually wasn't a fan of it but he wanted at least ONE good picture of you because he cherishes his friends
but EVERY. SINGLE . TIME . IT'S THE SAME-
He's frustrated to no end
He eventually gave up and just accepted fate
he even tried to draw you and it somehow got ruined which made his mood worst
At one point , you came to him with a strawberry tart to cheer him up but he was really pouty
You asked if he wanted to try the selfie again but you hold the phone , which he reluctantly agreed to
afterwards when you left , he went to see the picture and he couldn't believe his damn eyes
a perfect picture of you and him
" i don't know if i want to cry of joy or behead them . "
He stilled loved the photo and refused to show anyone else in case it somehow got ruined or deleted
Leona
He wasn't too interested in photos but in your case it caught his interest slightly
he noticed from school activity photos that your face was always somehow ruined.
he thought it was funny but rare
so he tasked ruggie to take a picture for a small amount , mainly because he thought it would be easy
plus it's not like he wants a photo of you for anything psssshh
but when ruggie returned , he was frustrated and tired
confused leona questioned him
"Leona san. i loved getting money from you but i might just not even try anymore ..."
he got baffled that Ruggie had given up money for any easy task. or so he thought was easy
So thinking ruggie was being lazy , he went to do it himself
as a predator, he knows how to be sneaky and hide well , so once he locked you in , he took a snap
he looks ats the photo completely ruined
he took another , ruined. once again , it was ruined
he repeats many tries after and it all ends the same
" ahh fuck it ... " and went for a nap
later on you wanted a selfie with leona
being smug he said " would you even get the picture right ?~"
with a pout " of course i can!" you posed for the picture and snapped
he took a glance and he'll be damned ,, it was perfect
" don't talk to me for the next few day, herbivore."
"huh-"
Azul
azul didn't like photos , much at least because of certain ones of his past
though he took note of a particular incident
(Event after chapter 3) when you all took a picture at the museum , he noticed that your part of the picture , floyd's arm covered your face
He thought nothing of it until he noticed it often
Ace took a photo of you and deuce and somehow grim flew in front of your face
Cater took a selfie but it ended up blurred
it was pointless but hard to ignore so he assigned Jade and floyd into getting the perfect picture of you
after a couple hours, jade and floyd came back frustrated
even jade looked visibly irritated which was VERY rare to the point it scared Azul
they showed him nothing but blurry pics, he knew something was up because even jade wouldn't fail this bad
He knew he couldn't stand the chance if the tweels failed
but later on , you wanted to take a selfie with him
he refused immediately but you promised to keep the photo private , then he did agree , reculantantly
His immediate thought was that the picture would of been ruined anyways but was shocked to see a cute selfie of him and you
"....send me that picture . " you turned to him "what???" "SEN ME THAT PICTURE"
Kalim
We all know this absolute dork would love to take pictures , possibly from Cater's influence , because he sees it as a fun thing to do
So you , being one of his favorite people, he obviously wants a good photo of you
but to his disappointment, when he wanted to take a pic of you while you were at the gardens, it turned out super blurry
he thought nothing of it , just might of moved a bit , until the next one came blurry
he was getting semi frustrated and you had already left , so for once, he was actually grumpy to the point where he just asked Jamil to take a good picture for him
he felt lowkey bad of course but he was a tiny bit frustrated
Jamil didn't care until he had the same issue
Jamil tried a it but gave up when he kept getting the same result
then kalim was just sad , he just wanted a cute picture of you
you visited one day and he was his usual self but you here reminded him of the picture incident
you offered to try again , he was hard for him to say no to you
but after looking..you took a perfect photo
he wanted to cry and you were just so confused
hug him he needs it
Vil
Vil is a perfectionist of course, which includes photos too
you , him and a few others went on a small trip , you wanting to take a photo to remember the trip
you're one of the only people he's allowed for a picture minus fans because he's aware you just want a genuine picture and knows you won't share/ brag about it
Rook offered to take the photo
you two posed and rook took the shot but Vil automatically saw Rook's confused face
"Rook?.. is there a problem?" "non non roi du poison! I must of moved a little fast, part of it came blurry
he didn't think on it , just a small mistake no biggy
that was until the problem kept repeating itself
Irrigated , he took the camera and looked at the photos , each and every one of them was blurred of were you were at while vil looked completely fine
he slowly looked at you while you just stood there worried that we weren't going to get a picture
"Vil senpai? maybe i can just take a selfie? Rook's camera's probably broken"
sighing in defeat , he agreed ,after getting in a cute pose , you snapped a photo
he took a look and he was legit about to burst
It was an absolute beautiful picture
He was stunned that you did an even better job then rook
might make you his photographer
Idia
we all know for a fact, he hates pictures , at least mainly of himself
though he doesn't mind pictures of you
of course , he doesn't take pics of you willy nilly , he asks you first because he'd be hypocrite to take a picture of someone who didn't want a photo
You often cosplayed as some of his favorite characters and of course he'd want a picture of it but he was in for a surprise
The first time you cosplayed in front of him , he asked and you agreed
he snapped the photo , it blurred
he got irritated but thought nothing of it and tried again
still failed
he has plenty of cameras ( I dunno it's for the story make up your own reason XD ) and used a different one to get a photo
it failed and he tried many times , it was too a point he built up the courage *cough*two hours*cough to ask rook to help
he was dumbfounded when rook couldn't do well
you later went home , while idia was sad , he really wnated to take a good pic
soon after, you sent him a text
"I'm sorry you couldn't get a cute picture earlier, so i took a shot at it with a selfie!"
and there he saw the perfect picture
"...what the f**k is this voodoo magic- "
he of course loved it but he was so confused
Malleus
oh boy here we go-
he was still confused on the idea of photos
but he thought it was similar to a painting but it's instant
so of course he wants one with you
he attempts to use an old style camera (hey be lucky he made it this far)
he sets it up to where it takes a picture with a timer and you both pose
After it was done, he looked at the photo and somehow it blurred
he just thought it was a small mistake and tried again
second time, same result
this is where his temper slowly rises and it's shown every time it fails
and after about the 20th time , he smashes the camera
you attempt to calm him down and offered to use your phone
he agrees because he trusts you more than a dumb camera
after you took the photo, he was very happy , it looked wonderful
he didn't care about the camera anymore, he just cared that he got a good photo
I hope you enjoyed!
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c-a-e-l-a · 3 years
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A POORLY-MADE ANALYSIS OF KALIM AND JAMIL'S ROOMS
this is just me over-analyzing everything. probably.
Okay, so I don't really know where to begin with all this, but first let's recall this particular facet of Jamil's personality.
He represses his emotions.
In some of the Scarabia boys' personal stories — the ones I'm referring to rn being Jamil's Laboratory SR & Kalim's Ceremonial Robes SR — Jamil puts emphasis on how he "doesn't want to stand out" (he says this in one of his monologues), and at one point he even tells Kalim that the young heir deserved his spot as Scarabia's dorm leader. Aaaand if you've finished Chapter 4 of the Main Story, you'll know this isn't true.
In contrary to how he initially lead us to believe, Jamil is actually someone who wants to get the acknowledgment he deserves. He isn't someone who would be content with just being a background character. He knows he could do so much more, and thus, he hated having to be inferior to Kalim just because of their social hierarchy.
Hence, we arrive at our next question: why would Jamil lie? Disregarding how he presents himself in front of the others, why would he lie and tell HIMSELF that he doesn't want to stand out, when it's clearly not how he truly feels?
It's simple, really. It's because ever since he was younger, Jamil's feelings have always been invalidated by those around him... Notably, his parents disregarded his emotions by embedding into his mind that he must never one up Kalim — that he must understand that as a servant of the Asim household, he must never overshadow him.
And even if he loathed this, he couldn't help but subconsciously apply this way of thinking onto himself. That his emotions should never be prioritized first. That he didn't have the right to be more than what he already is, because he's a servant.
Now, now, at this point, you must be wondering how this is all related to their rooms *CRIES*, but I promise we're getting to that part! I didn't expect that into to drag on that much.
Ahem, so. Jamil's upbringing ultimately led to his habit of suppressing his emotions at any given moment. He hides his true thoughts quite well, and...this eventually caused for him to be awkward at expressing his individuality. Proof of this is how Jamil's sister has complained about how, despite their taste, the food Jamil cooks looks boring. Sure, he's an able cook, but on the design category? Not much.
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The same can be said about his room. Jamil's room — especially when compared to the rest of the cast's rooms — is relatively much more plain-looking. But it isn't because he's a boring person (Jamil's such an interesting character T^T), it's just that he sucks at expressing himself.
Meanwhile...
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Kalim's room is fancy, as you can see. However, before we proceed, let's try to deduce some stuff about Kalim and Jamil based on their rooms.
For Jamil's...we can tell that he actively plays a certain sport (basing on the shoes). We can also tell that he likes music, seeing as how he owns headphones and a boombox. That first-aid kit also indicates how he's always prepared for any possible health dangers.
Now, for Kalim's... He has a first-aid kit, too, which is understandable considering who he is. But...besides that, what else can we deduce about Kalim? Not much, right?
Jamil is the more emotionally repressed of the two, but why is it that we can tell that much about him just by looking at his room, when we can't deduce a lot from the more emotionally open Kalim's room?
When arranging things for your own room, you'd usually put the things that are most important to you in it, right? But in Kalim's case, we don't see anything like that at all. Which is odd considering how enthusiastic he is about most things, usually.
Following this line of thought, we can only infer that most of his things are in the storage room. But...why?
If he really had something that was important to him, wouldn't he at least keep them inside his own room rather than throw it in there? Like, drums for Light Music Club practice, or the magic carpet! (Actually, exclude the magic carpet, if it isn't kept in the storage room, it'd definitely just wander off somewhere)
Anyways, this is most likely just me over-analyzing things again. Hhhhhh it's all because of that JPN Twst fan who tweeted about how Kalim "keeps his things in the storage room because he doesn't want to be associated with the Asim wealth." Kinda contradictive in many ways, but it is interest-inducing, so I just had to make a pathetic excuse of an analysis for that.
If anyone has ideas to add, I'm all ears! Thanks for reading till the end~
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Actually, Jamil is Snow White
Now that I have your attention with my batshit theory, let me explain it along with my other predictions for the future events of chapter 5 in a 2,500+ word mess of an essay.
  The past chapters have all correlated to the plot of the original Disney movie in some way. So how does chapter 5 correlate with Snow White? For the movie's story, it starts with Snow White living with her stepmother, who is vain, self-centered, and afraid that one day Snow White will surpass her beauty. The Queen makes efforts to suppress Snow White's beauty by making her a scullery maid, but Snow White does eventually surpass her. This causes the Queen to order her Huntsman to kill Snow White, but the Huntsman can't bring himself to do it and he presents the queen with a decoy heart instead.
  What's interesting about TWST is that Neige has already surpassed Vil at the very beginning. Furthermore, rather than focus solely on his own beauty and beat down potential rivals, Vil attempts to nurture the beauty of the rest of his dorm and the VDC team. So how in the world do we correlate the events of the chapter to the original movie? Well, we know from previous chapters that the person twisted from a character might not be the one to actually take that character's role in the story. Though Farena exists, the one Leona tries to sabotage is Malleus. Though Rielle exists, the one Azul makes a special deal with is Yuu. Even though Neige has played a bigger part in the story so far compared to Farena and Rielle, he still might not actually be the Snow White of this story. So who are our possible candidates here?
  As the person meant to rival Neige's cute appeal, Epel is the first one to pop into mind. Perhaps the NRC team's performance during the VDC goes well enough that Epel suddenly gets tons of popularity. The internet latches onto him, so much so that, at least temporarily, he ends up surpassing both Vil and Neige in Mira's beauty calculation. However, this wouldn't make sense. The Queen is supposed to hate and sabotage the Snow White, and Vil has no reason to do that to Epel after spending so much effort helping him with the express goal of having him beat out Neige. So who else?
  While browsing Pixiv one night, I came across a funny comic (it was long ago enough that I don't remember how to find it again, unfortunately) where Azul actually did livestream Jamil's evil monologue in chapter 4. Rather than becoming a big scandal though, it actually becomes famous because of how good-looking Jamil is, so much so that Vil finds out about it because Jamil's name is the one Mira tells him when Vil does a beauty check. Vil proceeds to change his plans for the VDC by dumping Epel and choosing Jamil as the sole main vocal so that Jamil is his "poison apple" against Neige instead.
  With the recent update, Vil's plan for the VDC is officially finalized, so that comic is firmly in AU territory. However, what if something similar happens? The NRC team's performance goes amazing. However, it is not Vil or Epel that gain attention, but Jamil, the 3rd main vocalist. Against Vil and everyone else's expectations and plans, the internet goes wild over this mysterious pretty boy, boosting Jamil into the position of most beautiful.  Even Neige had to spend some amount of time getting gigs and whatever to attain his fame, but Jamil has done basically nothing outside the VDC and now he's suddenly the best... How would Vil feel about that?
  With the whole trend of the previous overblot causing the next, this theory of Jamil = Snow White makes sense. Though they could always make it so it's Neige and Epel doing the stuff and then at the end Jamil delivers a speech or something that gives the final push to overblot, it would be a lot more interesting (and funny) for Jamil to be thrust into the spotlight earlier on and be a main reason for Vil's overblot.
  However, all of this assumes that the beginning of Snow White correlates with the beginning of chapter 5. Let's consider that the beginning of chapter 5 actually correlates with the situation later in the movie when the Queen is plotting to get Snow White with the poison apple. In this situation, Neige would actually be the Snow White of the story. However, unless we pull some funky timeline stuff, the theory I've seen of Rook betraying Vil wouldn't happen then, since we're already past that point in the movie. So what is next? In the movie, Snow White bites the apple and falls asleep. The dwarfs return to their cottage and chase the Queen, who eventually falls to her death when a lightning bolt destroys the precipice she's cornered on. (Fun fact from Wikipedia, her scream while falling was reused for Sleeping Beauty when Maleficent gets stabbed by the Sword of Truth). Anyway, the dwarfs proceed to put Snow White in the glass coffin until a year later when the prince kisses her and takes her to his castle.
  Welp, look here, we have the dwarves in TWST, so they could definitely fulfill the try to hurt Vil part here. But what would lead them to do that? Assuming that as RSA students they are heroic, they would hurt Vil if they felt that he had hurt Neige. Vil's plan for the VDC competition seems to just be performing like normal and hoping that their hard work and effort will shine through and win them the competition, so either something has to happen that causes a last-minute change to that plan or some sort of misunderstanding (Vil getting canceled) happens. How would a misunderstanding happen? It could originate from fans angry that Neige didn't win, but Vil has plenty of his own fans to counter that and make an even-sided battle. Some new falling out between Vil and Epel could occur, resulting in either Epel himself going and hurting Vil's reputation or someone else (the media or Neige) seeing Epel distraught and believing that Vil is abusing him in some way. If it's Neige that could be interesting since it'd kinda be a situation where Epel is Snow White and Neige is his Huntsman. Neige x Epel new otp??? haha anyway, there's also the possibility that the RSA students are not heroic, and the dwarves go and make rumors about Vil themselves as an underhanded strategy to give Neige the victory.
  All this talk is making me forget about my boy Jamil though. How would he fit in here? Again, from the previous overblots, we know that Jamil will likely oppose Vil in some way. We have also established that this chapter 5's start = the Queen's poison apple plan's start, so Neige is the Snow White. The remaining roles for Jamil are the dwarves (unlikely since we have actual dwarves), the huntsman (unlikely since timeline and also Rook exists), and finally, the prince. Jamil x Neige new otp??? lmao anyway, What would this role mean for his involvement in the story? Well, the prince only shows up at the end to wake up Snow White, so that would make this a situation like I mentioned before with Jamil just showing up to do a speech or something that pushes Vil over the edge. Boring, what else could we do?
  Well, what about the original fairy tale of Snow White? In there, the dwarves don't kill the Queen. Instead, she lives until the day of Snow White and the prince's wedding, where the prince makes her dance in red-hot slippers until she dies as punishment for trying to kill Snow White. Why would Jamil give enough of a shit about Neige to go against Vil like that though? Well, y'know what fuck it let's squeeze someone else into the role of Snow White. Kalim certainly has the hair color for it. Since Kalim is just one of the backup vocals and hasn't had much going on aside from his personal character development this chapter idk what Vil could possibly do to him. Perhaps something pertaining to his family's wealth and fame? Whatever it is, some sort of threat to Kalim would be enough motivation for Jamil to do something to Vil. Interaction between Kalim and Jamil would also serve to finish up whatever development is going on between them. Seriously bro I know Jamil was probably just stalking Kalim in that one episode to make sure he's safe but that scene is really haunting me WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
  Whatever, let's keep this circus rolling with some Rook discussion! Again, we got the theory that Rook will betray Vil like the Huntsman betrayed the Queen. To discuss this idea, we gotta discuss Rook's motivations first. In episode 5-27, quoting from the translation on the wiki by Kanade Musings, Rook claims that "being a mere spectator to beautiful people and beautiful things provide [him] with such happiness" and he is "here to offer what help [he] can to help save beauty." However, he points out that "Vil does not need [Rook] to save him;" instead, what Rook wants "to protect is not Vil himself, but rather the 'beauty' he possesses." The chapter ends with Rook saying that the others would understand what he's saying if they encountered a "beauty that is blinding" and would "bring light to [their] lives."
  So, with this information, would Rook betray Vil and why would he betray Vil? Well, there's the possibility that RSA's performance wows him and he switches to protecting Neige's beauty. However, this doesn't feel right to me. Neige is very famous. His first appearance was in a commercial that Cater got even when not specifically trying to find stuff on Neige. I would seriously doubt that Rook has not already done research into Neige and observed what beauty he has. If Rook doesn't already find Neige extraordinarily beautiful, I doubt that a single dance performance could transform his opinion of him. However, what if that was compounded by some loss of Vil's beauty? However, would Rook allow that to happen? He expressly said he wishes to protect Vil's beauty. If Vil lost beauty, would Rook really abandon him, or would he work to bring Vil back to his senses and restore his beauty?
  Now, going back to the idea of Rook doing a betrayal, we already established way back at the beginning of this monstrosity (if you made it this far please take a hydration break or something alright? take care of yourself I love you) that Neige is not necessarily the Snow White of the story. So, we have the possibility of Rook turning against Vil on Epel's behalf, which... doesn't seem right. Idk it might be because I still just can't envision a scenario with Rook outright betraying Vil. Again, Rook has spent a bunch of time observing Epel and watching him grow. What could Epel possibly do that could mega boost his beauty in Rook's eyes? He's spent time observing Jamil too, though not as much as he observes some other people. Like, Rook is a hunter, extremely skilled at assessing targets and figuring out what makes them tick. For his opinion of someone to seriously change, it would require equally exceptional deception or change on the target's part. Seriously, why would he betray Vil?
  Okay, how about we consider what exactly Rook finds beautiful. As we know from the auditions (ボーテ!100点!), Rook was able to find beauty in every person's performance, no matter how clumsy or unskilled they were. So, we get the sense that at the very least, Rook considers things beautiful that most people wouldn't consider beautiful. Then, what makes Vil beautiful to him? We know Vil is beautiful by normal person standards, but Rook doesn't go by normal person standards. Does Rook feel drawn to his determination? His power? Something we don't know about yet? I don't think we know for sure, so we don't know what it would take for Vil to lose beauty in Rook's eyes.
  Well, there's a part of Rook that hasn't really come up in the main story yet: his fascination with the nonhuman students. This just brings up more questions. Since Vil is human... as far as we know... Rook's behavior towards him is motivated by something different than that which motivates his hunts, even if that something different is just a different way of being beautiful. ARGHH I DON'T KNOWWWWW we're going into his voice lines
  Alright, ceremonial robes home tap 3 (from twstarchives): "There is beauty that some are just born with, but the beauty you work hard to achieve holds immeasurable power. Isn't that right?" Okay now we're getting somewhere, he appreciates hard work! Oh yeah didn't Vil say some stuff cause he felt defeated by Neige being better even though Vil put in all this hard work? The development of that sort of attitude would probably constitute a loss of beauty. Hard work would therefore also make someone beautiful in Rook's eyes.
  So, who works hard? Yep, Jamil we're bringing you in again. Remember, a change is needed to drive the plot and prompt a change in Rook. Haven't we had a major change in Jamil's attitude already? Starting with having to funnel all his hard work into Kalim and keeping himself under Kalim, after chapter 4 Jamil is now channeling his work into himself and finally showing off his true talents. Given that Rook can't possibly stalk everyone in NRC in-depth, he likely doesn't have a complete idea of Jamil's capabilities especially given how Jamil was specifically trying to stay under the radar. This may give Jamil the possibility to surprise Rook with his full power, potentially shifting Rook's opinion enough to give him a significant appreciation of Jamil's beauty.
 With all this information, I think I can try and build a rough simulation of events. So, the VDC teams do their performances and wow the crowd. In the meantime while the judges are deciding who wins, some shit goes down: Vil gets canceled or something, Jamil gains popularity, idk something with Neige & the dwarves. Vil's mental health takes a turn for the worst and he resorts to underhandedness. He enlists Rook for some plot against Jamil or Neige. However, Kalim gets caught in the crossfire. Inspired by Jamil's beauty and efforts to help Kalim, Rook ends up going against the plan and Vil. Vil overblots, blah blah backstory, then the judges release the results of the competition, and the winding down/aftermath/party time is the 2nd day of the festival whatever when the gang can go see all the other booths and stuff.
  Even after all this I sincerely doubt my final prediction here will come to pass but y'know, all about the journey not the destination. Honestly, I thought of the title of this post when I was only partway through like "Haha isn't this theory about Jamil being Snow White so out there" but nope that's actually a foundation of my ideas now. What am I doing???   Anyway, hope you enjoyed reading this mess. Please feel free to message me or something if this rant gave you any ideas that you wanna share.
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My request: Reaction of all the Twst boys to mc's dad being Alastor the Radio Demon and their opinions of him. (Side note, Alastor is taller than Malleus)
Interesting. Im actually a Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss fan so i am aware of the character :0c This will be fun >:)c
Note: MC is gender neutral but they gain horns as a trait regardless of gender
Riddle
at first found it strange . more so how you look so different from your dad
the main thing you had was his antlers and red eyes
Now when he found out you're part demon, he got caught off guard for a second but calm down when he remember that you're well behaved...for the most part
Now with how He and Alastor are with each other, it's more neutral if anything
Riddle finds him intimating while Alastor finds him a bit annoying but they put that aside in front of you
Leona
oh boy-
Leona does not alastor at all
not just because of the vibe he gives off but he hates the idea of a technical prey having predator arua, makes him feel weaker
so if Alastor ever shows up , he buffs up trying to be the bigger
you do all you can to stop them from fighting but you're small compared to both of them
let's just hope they don't cause a war while you're not looking
Azul
azul is as professional as always
he and your father are actually doing some small business with each other
you're thankful they're not fighting but scared of what they'll do -
They're almost like best friends
you'll actually see them with drinks often but the number one thing they talk about is you but in an embarrassing way -
with cute dum names, all the dum things you did or do and you just want them to shut up -
Kalim
He was actually slightly imitated but quickly overcame it
your dad was actually planning to do things but you rightfully scolded him , so Alastor will behave for now
He throws a party for your father every time he visits
he was surprised he liked meat , being a deer but Jamil is actually aware of what meats he likes...
Yes Jamil makes sure that Alasator stays in check
Kalim offers gifts as well but Alastor always declines and thanks him for the offer
Vil
Another one who's not a fan
He's not intimated at all, even if he's a tall man
he often wonders how you're even related based on what tones your dad gives off
Even rook is nervous around him and that's saying something
Still, he respects him only for you. You're the only reason he can tolerate him
but he's always prepared if he tries anything, just a few potions
Idia
Probably the most chill surprisingly -
He's from Hell and that place is slightly similar to his home, so he's used to weird beings
The only thing he doesn't like is how loud and talkative he is
He'll have his hood over with his headphones on just so he won't have a snore fest
We know how Idia can get snarky or mean but he knows how to behave around Alastor because he's aware of what he could do
and surprisingly they both play video games with each other but Idia has to constantly teach him over and over
Malleus
This was interesting for him
he never thought he'd be someone taller than him other then maybe his own father but still
He's neutral with him but he still distrusts him in a way
He just doesn't share the same arua that you have and he actually doesn't like that
there was a time they were about to fight but luckily you were in between them. They would never want to hurt you so they both had to swallow their pride
you honestly have to keep an eye on them both
Hope you enjoy!
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