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sophietv · 10 months

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Kaylor Timeline BEFORE VSFS 2013

It's a thread I did on my Twitter that I'll transfer here.

Once again, I used amazing Tumblr posts to do it. So I'll credit them as we go (If I need to do something else tell me, I'm new to the Tumblr etiquette).

So the official story is that Taylor and Karlie crossed path a couple of times without interacting and met for the first time at the Victoria Secret Fashion Show in 2013 🤔

Well they met A LOT of times and interacted before actually 😅

Let's see the Timeline before that VSFS in 2013!

***I'll edit this post as I find new interactions (because I feel like I'll find a lot of them) I'll add this 🆕 beside new additions and dates when it was added at the end of the post.

First meeting!

So what motivated my thread in the first place is this Interview Taylor did in 2014 with Andrew Bevan of Teen Vogue.

Here's the YouTube Link (X)

But here's the most important part of that interview:

He is saying that he introduced Karlie and Emma Stone to Taylor!!

Ok we know that Taylor met Emma at the 2008 Young Hollywood Award.

I don't think though that he is talking about that event. Because he says that he congratulated her for her cover.

Taylor did two covers with Teen Vogue, one in 2009 and one in 2011.

Following the Timeline and everything it's most likely the March 2009 one:

EDIT:

Thanks to this Anon! (X)

A magazine cover is planned 2-8 months in advance, up to a year for major celebrities.

The Young Hollywood Award was on late April 2008 and the cover was for March 2009 so it make sense.

So it's most likely that Taylor met karlie for the first time at the same event she met Emma for the first time.

🆕 Really cute fact.

On the Cover of that magazine, Taylor wears a dress from the Calvin Klein Spring 2009 show. (X)

Guess who walked that runway??

Karlie! (X)

I exceeded the limit of picture so click on the (X) to see the posts.

Tommy Hilfiger spring 2010 collection:

Septembre 16th 2009 Taylor attends the Tommy Hilfiger Spring Show during New York Fashion Week. (X)

Karlie was there too! (X)

In this post, you can see videos of Taylor watching Karlie on the runway: (X)

Here's the YouTube video : (X)

🆕Met Gala 2010:

They were both at the Met Gala in 2010

🆕In Milan together

Although they were not at the same Fashion Show (that we know) Taylor and Karlie were in Milan at the same time during the Fashion Week.

Another interesting facts. This could explain the "1958" reference of Timeless:

Thanks to Izg on Twitter for giving me this!!

Roberto Cavalli 40th Anniversary Party:

Septembre 30th 2010

Taylor and Karlie attends the Roberto Cavalli 40th Anniversary party in Paris.

Met Gala 2011:

May 2nd 2011

Karlie and Taylor both attend the Met Gala:

This is also the first time that we have confirmation of an interaction between them:

Thanks to that amazing post! (X)

Karlie said in Teen Vogue that they joked about having a baking date.

Rodarte Spring 2012 fashion show:

Septembre 13th 2011

Taylor attend Rodarte Spring 2012 fashion show where Karlie walks.

Here's a link to the video (X)

Vogue Febuary 2012:

January 17th 2012

Taylor mentions Karlie in her Vogue interview: "I love Karlie Kloss! I Want to bake cookies with her!"

And this quote, made history.

Karlie answers the same day:

Vogue Fashion's Night Out:

August 2012

Thanks to this post (X)

Taylor and Karlie star in the same commercial about Vogue Fashion Night Out:

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Thanks to @hairpinraindrop for the video

Karlie and Taylor were present at the event too on Septembre 6th 2012

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Paris 2012:

Septembre 30th 2012

Karlie walks the runway for Jean-Paul Gauthier in Paris:

Taylor is in Paris at the same time to film the Begin Again MV:

Funny Koincidence(?), I went back and watch that MV again, and look at the opening scene!

The Love Lock Bridge!!!

Elie Saab Spring Summer 2013 show:

Octobre 3rd 2012

Taylor is still in Paris and attends The Paris Fashion Week (X) at a fashion show where I'm pretty sure Karlie walked (I'm still searching for photos/videos).

But we know that Karlie was at the Paris Fashion Week too! (Thanks Astra!)

Here's a video:

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🆕Met Gala 2013

They were also both at the Met Gala in 2013. Wich was in May.

So there you have it! All of Kaylor interaction BEFORE the 2013 VSFS!

This explains the timing of it all.

Because they allegedly met at the 2013 Victoria Secret Fashion Show in Novembre.

But as we know, Taylor moved to New York because Karlie asked her:

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Timestamp 1:23

And people believe that she moved there after their Big Sur trip in March 2014.

Actually. Back in January 2014, Taylor was already looking to buy an appartment near Karlie's:

And she actually bought her Tribeca oenthouse in February.

Thanks to Bigsurlor for this!!

So they definitly knew each other before 2013!

Edit August 19 2023: Met Gala 2010, Milan trip together and Met Gala 2013 and the appartment hunting

Edit August 27th 2023: the Calvin Klein Spring 2009 dress section

#gaylor #kaylor #lsk #lgbetty #karlie kloss #taylor swift #timeline #mastermind #invisible string #your past and mine are parallel lines #Youtube

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bettyshoweduptotheparty · 6 months

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what was it like as a gaylor before 2016?

What an appropriate question on the 10 year anniversary of the kaylor public launch at the VSFS 2013 :) As it's quite a subjective question, prepare for my gaylor/kaylor origin story 😉

I've been a more committed Taylor fan since Red came out in 2012, but because I'm in the UK a lot of the public media buzz about her has passed me by (except for the headlines about her and Harry, that was definitely a big story over here). In spring 2013 the article about her and Dianna exploded on the internet and, despite it obviously being retracted, it perked my ears up because 1. I was also a big glee fan at the time, and 2. it seemed to offer an explanation to why I found her music so relatable having just had my heart broken by a girl and all her genderless breakup songs fit that situation so well. So, I did a bit of research and quickly realised that, if she was in fact with Dianna, it would have been at the same time that she was supposedly dating Harry, as well as that Kennedy guy. No public acknowledgement of any queerness (like ever) so it was very clear to me from the start that, if she is dating women, she is doing it very much in secret. Not a great inspiration for fairly newly out me (23 at the time), so I filed that information and moved on with just her music. Didn't really think about it again until over a year later when a guy in a club decided to bully me and my then gf with the sentence 'Are you a real couple or just bffs like Taylor Swift and that model chick?' Yep, my kaylor origin story is a straight man harassing me in a nightclub. What are the odds, right? 🤭

So, because that remark somehow stuck with me (and I had no idea who that ' model chick' even was) I googled it, expecting to find something similar to the Dianna situation and my jaw hit the floor when I got pages and pages of photos of Taylor and Karlie walking the streets of NYC holding hands, smiling at each other with the biggest heart eyes. It genuinely changed my life. It may sound totally stupid and out of proportion, given that they didn't acknowledge it as a relationship (which I'm aware was doing no favours to lesbian visibility), but it did something to me to see the girl whose music I'd danced to in my bedroom when I was 16 so happily in love with another girl. I'd never seen that sort of love between two women, either in fiction or in real life, and it felt like she'd reached across the miles dividing us to tell me that it's possible, and that if she could find it (even in hiding), I could, too. And somehow it didn't matter to me what they were calling it, I could see what it was and it was everything to me. But I only had a few months to enjoy it before kissgate ruined it and of course the tabloids printed words like 'affair' and ‘scandal' and by March the next year we had Calvin Harris, then Hiddleswift, and then Joe. But at the same time, we got 1989 and rep with some of the gayest music ever written. And I found a great community of fellow queer people on here in those years that seemed to enjoy watching them and seeing their lives in the lyrics as much as I did. I’ve dipped in and out of the online space for years, lurking when there were more kind people around and disappearing when the hate got worse. It was fun to watch it all unfold in real time with people, I’m impressed that people still become new kaylors these days when there is no real time interaction and the hate from the general fanbase towards Karlie is still high since 2018. I don’t think I would be a gaylor today if I hadn’t witnessed their love in front of everybody’s eyes in that year, that really made me resilient to setbacks because I’m just so irretrievably in love with their love story. I’ve seen how Taylor lashes out when she’s cornered and scared (like she did after kiss gate) and sometimes we’re the collateral damage of that. And as much as that sucks it just shows that she’s incredibly protective of her little bubble of happiness and the more you poke the bear the more savage she’ll be in her retaliation. Do I wish she didn’t throw her most loyal supporters off a cliff every time she needs a straight excuse? Of course! But have I also hurt people I care about to protect my loved ones? Yes. So I can’t really judge. I can just take a walk when it gets too much, and wait for the soft shit to pull me back in.

So, to summarise, being a gaylor has always (and will always) have highs and lows, the public narrative is never for us, only the music is. But that's ok with me, I've learned to tune the noise out and enjoy the music, reminding myself that those songs were inspired by one of the greatest love stories I've ever accidently stumbled upon.

#gaylor #kaylor #my kaylor origin story #anon ask

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chickawah23 · 2 years

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Thought Trail: Midnights in Paris

Karlie has been mentioning Paris a lot and now that we know the title of TS10 (or TS12 depending on your preference) it makes me think there is a Midnight in Paris connection worth exploring here

Below are the the konnections I see to support this clownery 🤡🤡 bare with me…

In 2022 alone Karlie has just not let up on Paris references and posts like yes to me it feels more than usual

Examples:

Karlie’s Eiffel Tower joke made three separate times

Via ig story ig post and tiktok

Karlie posting a tiktok the same day Taylor posted about the VMA nominations throwing it back to this smoking hot look from Paris back in July

Karlie doing the teenage dirtbag tiktok challenge specifically focusing on her time in Paris at 15

Karlie doing a tiktok sharing 5 things about herself and saying she speaks French really well then mispronounces Français lol

And then I thought back to the old IG posts from 2012 and 2013 where she used the caption Midnight in Paris

For the September 2013 post she included a clock 🕰

And we know she was there that night to do a shoot for the VS Holiday Commercial in Paris

This was shortly before Taylor and Karlie fully met at the VSFS on 11/13/13

Also I dare someone to tell me the “wan wan wan” in Don’t Blame Me doesn’t sound like the “wan wan wan” in Waiting Game by Banks (the song in the 2013 VS holiday commercial)

Then I thought about Taylor doing the City of Lover concert in Paris that was filmed in September 2019 and making Paris and French like the focal point of Me! And some of the Lover album rollout:

And the collage art murals with the Eiffel Tower and the locket (I can’t add anymore pictures to this post lol)

And then most recently Jack wearing a Paris tshirt on 8/31 in his ig story when we kinda know he likely produced some tracks on Midnights

This theory all came together based on my vague memory of this old Vogue Model Wall interview Karlie did in 2012 where she said she was excited to see Midnight in Paris

Summation

I just feel like Midnight in Paris is a thing. I know Karlie goes to Paris Fashion week every year and is always working with French designers so some will say it’s not that deep. And maybe its not but I just feel like this was a fun trail to travel down.

How does this tie into Midnight in Paris the film:

The movie is all about a screenwriter who hallucinates that he goes back in time to the 1920s every night where he meets and hangs out with all these famous artists, musicians and writers from back in that time. And his fiancé name is Inez (remember betty) in the movie (played by Rachel McAdams). He meets Zelda and F Scott Fitzgerald (the Great Gatsby - there were plenty analyses about folklore/evermore and gatsby), Pablo Picasso, Salvador Dali (TLGAD), Ernest Hemingway (the Sun Also Rises - someone can do a whole analysis on this novel) and others.

I just feel like there is something here with Taylor using escapism in folklore and evermore that was inspired by books and stories and now Midnights that is her late night writings that just feels connected.

This is just my clownery 🤡🤡

#thought trail #random konnections #midnights in Paris

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seasurfacefullofclouds1 · 10 months

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I have been reading your throughts about Harry, I also dislike him bc his whole "nice personality" and image about being a queer icon seems so fake so idk if you have talked before about this but when did you think that Harry and the others drifted apart and why? I see 2010-2012 videos and Harry and Louis seemed so close, was he faking it and wanted to sabotage the others? Or what do you think he did that?

Hi anon,

If you want to slog through this post, there are lots of timelines in there, including timelines from Harries.

If you look at the Hazoff timeline, basically around the end of 2012 (Haylor, Hendall), Jeff Azoff quit his job at his Dad’s management company and started working at CAA. I think they were already evaluating Harry for a breakout solo career. Harry was 18; he had no idea what that solo career would look like, but I’n sure the promises sounded great.

No matter how close Harry and Louis looked together, Harry went along with “dating” all the Victoria Secret models (the head of Victoria Secret PR came to Harry’s 2017 Radio City Show, ahead of his VSFS concert in China). Harry went along with moving in with Ben Winston, with making friend with the London coke crew, with separating himself from the others by 2013-14. This all happened 2012-14.

Read the links in the post and you’ll have an eye opener.

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nadaexistencial · 2 years

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NSM