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spamsandsuch · 9 months

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On Spamton’s Caller and the Garbage Noise

Spamton’s caller—regardless of who it was—is what I believe their own character separate from the benefactor, and potentially a lightner or gaster/gaster related entity. Regarding either scenarios of the caller’s identity, we’d need to take in account of what happens when you try using the cell phone in the darkworlds—specifically the “garbage noise.”

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When kris uses their cellphone in either darkworlds, it emits a loud, jarring noise as we all know. This noise file is called mus_smile.ogg and is implemented at different points in deltarune (such as the secret bunker location, where the file is slowed down by 666%). More infamously, though, the file is used in “Entry Number 17”, a scene that can be accessed in UNDERTALE and is implied to be written/said from W.D. Gaster (you can read more about it here as well as W.D. Gaster’s wiki page).

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(WingDings translation can be found here and also Gaster’s wiki page). The same noise file is used regardless of what location the cellphone is being called from in the darkworld, however what’s important to note is that their descriptions in each chapter is different. In chapter one, the description for calling the cellphone simply states that its not working. This makes sense, because besides the spooky, potentially gaster related easter egg you can’t really utilize the phone for much else in the darkworld.

However, in Chapter TWO, the description for the cellphone call changes. Instead of the previous description, it’s now changed to “It’s nothing but gargbage noise.”

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Given that this curiously plays only in chapter 2 (including in Castle Town, not just the Cyber World) the player is at first given little context for this change. However, after the NEO fight if the player chooses to head back to the Trash Zone, kris and the gang will encounter the addisons who were associated with Spamton. While this interaction does shine light to spamton’s tragic backstory, what the final Blue addison says is quite notable.

They describe how when going back to check on Spamton before his eviction, Spamton wasnt there and instead the addison was greeted by an abandoned phone hanging off the wall. Thinking there was still another person on the line, the blue addison put the receiver to their ear. Instead of being greeted by a voice, however, the addison heard they only describe as “nothing but garbage noise.” At this point, I’m most certain that this is supposed to frame that the phonecall noise from kris and spamton’s phones are, in fact, the same noise. Why else would Toby deliberately implement this description change? If they were supposed to be two different “garbage” noises, then there would be no need to change the phonecall’s description in such a specific way that DIRECTLY references the sound of what’s most likely Spamton’s phone.

Now, this can mean either two things, so let’s start with the first. Given the context that these are both the same noise, the phone call noise can only occur when attempting to contact the lightner world, or perhaps the item being used is from the light world. Remember, this occurrence only happens as you play as Kris, a lightner. Their phone is an item from the lightworld, and what I find interesting is that their cellphone doesn’t seem to have a darkworld counterpart like other items in deltarune (such as Kris’s pencil or even the Shadow Crystals, which are just glass shards in the lightworld). Under this context, the cellphone makes this noise because the player attempts to call/contact a number from the lightworld (because throughout Deltarune so far, nobody in the darkworld actually gives you their number, so the phone likely only has lightner contacts). This means either that the cellphone plays the mus_smile.ogg file when it’s generally in use in the darkworld, or that it’s solely because it’s attempting to contact the lightnerworld. Either makes sense, though if we incorporate the latter explanation, that means that Spamton had to have some sort of number that could have contact to light world, or that the item itself is from the lightworld similar to kris’s phone (because Kris’s phone, interestingly enough, is seemingly unaffected by the darkworld besides being unable to call). Now, this explanation in fine and dandy, but it does leave ONE problem: HOW was anybody able to call spamton, if nobody seems to answer kris’s to begin with? How could a lightner POSSIBLE contact a darkner from the lightworld, if they seemingly cannot contact from there to being with? While I do have my own headcanons for that, from a comeplete canon standpoint I cannot completely answer that. We only have two chapters to work with, after all, and there’s a lot of information had yet to be given to us to complete the pieces. Yet, hopefully as I provide my second explanation, it could potentially fill a few holea and maybe provide a better frame of context for spamton’s situation.

Now, the second explanation as to who called Spamton—which is more popular in fandom I’ve noticed—is that it was Gaster or a gaster-related being who contacted Spamton.

I’m sure most of you are well aware if this—the association generally comes from the comparison of Spamton’s phone noise to the noise file that plays behind “Entry Number 17” in UNDERTALE, which as I’ve said before is related to Gaster. In regards to Gaster’s character, he was a scientist described to have been “shattered across time and space.” I wont go too in depth as many other people have dissected his existent both in Undertale and Deltarune (far better than I can), but the most popular theories I noticed is that part of gaster’s soul is stuck in deltarune, that Gaster created the Darkworlds and potentially Deltarune, etc. Regardless, in this context Gaster holds a poweful role in Deltarune, given that there’s many easter eggs associated w/ him in throughout the game (e.g. Naming the vessel or yourself “Gaster”). Under this context, explaining how Spamton was called becomes a lil easier, as the popular explanation goes along as follows: mus_smile.ogg, given that it occurs in “Entry Number 17” is also a Gaster motif. Thus, any point in Deltarune that utilizes or references this file is related to Gaster. In Spamton’s case, the person who called him must have been Gaster calling from the void of Deltarune. In addition, given the context that the darkworlds’ sheer existence are also in relation to Gaster, Kris phonecall plays because Gaster is interfering, because there’s no signal and can only contact the void, etc.

This explanation is the more popular theory in Deltarune, and it makes sense given Gaster’s motifs and its easier to explain Spamton’s situation. In regards to the latter, though, I’ve noticed many assume that gaster (or just the caller, in general) is also the SAME person who was the benefactor/helped Spamton become a “Big Shot”. I also thought this for a long time too, but when you think about it for a long time it becomes sort of… confusing. For starter’s, let’s think about Spamton’s relation to the TV World. As revealed in the Spamton SweepStakes (which you can read about here or watch this video here, though cw for unreality in the video as it DOES cover the livesstream in addition to the website) , the character Tenna was revealed, and Spamton’s and Mike’s relationship was clarified to lack malic (yes i know i said differently last year but i got character development since then i swear). Tenna is implied to be a resident from the TV World (possibly even the main boss) given that instead of by name spamton often references them with many variations of names: “That Cathode”/Crts, “Boob Tube” (heh), or just referencing them as a tv in general.

What’s important to note is that Spamton seems to despise Tenna, to the point where he calls them a “criminal” and that they should be in the trash instead—but why? Well, we dont really know yet given that we’re still missing more key information, but what I find most interesting is… Spamton seems to imply here that he DID rely on Tenna, at some point.

Now, this is the instance where Ive noticed the more recent theory—that TENNA was Spamton’s caller/benefactor, due to this context. And for the benefactor part, that makes sense in terms of how Spamton become more popular, but that also leaves a certain problem… if Tenna was the CALLER, why was there garbage noise from Spamton’s phone in the first place? It doesn’t make entirely sense to me, given that theyre both darkners and how some darkners from different worlds seem to visit each other/each others worlds with ease (e.g. Spade King and Queen, Jevil and Spamton, etc… I also know this instant contradicts that darkners can turn to stone in different worlds, though I have my own headcanons abt that and I feel Toby has yet to reveal more information on that). However, this is not to say Tenna and Spamton dont have relations. Though im not well versed in Chess, I do believe in the Deltarune Chess Theory where Tenna (or whoever the next main boss is) will be the Rook who utilized Spamton for their own purposes. So that makes the fact that Spamton possibly depended on Tenna for fame apparent, but that still leaves the question: Where DOES the garbage noise come?

That is also hard to answer from a canon standpoint, given the information we have thus far. However, it does make me think: perhaps, instead of every instance being either or, maybes it’s all… connected somehow. Maybe Gaster contacted Spamton first and promised Spamton fame, but couldn’t do much action besides contacting people. Perhaps then, Gaster contacted Tenna, and promised them a Pawn (spamton) Tenna could take advantage of. Or, instead of Gaster, perhaps it was a lightner Spamton was contacted by chance, which in this case they would replace Gaster’s role in this scenario (though the reason being, a lightner cannot help a darkner much in light world, thus theyd need another darkner to help out). Maybe its a whole different scenario entirely. Who’s knows.

One thing I think is for certain, though, is that to me given these circumstances Spamton’s caller and benefactor are separate people.

#spamton #spamtom #deltarune theory #deltarune analysis #sorry this is so long and maybe doesnt make sense #this was initially about the garbage noise in deltarune because i feel like #lately ppl have beeb forgetting its relations to spamton/gaster #this post has probablt been done before but i wanted to share my thoughts cuz #i like sharibg my theories but rarely do it due to executive dysfunction + afraid of sounding to mean #scopophobia tw #loud noise tw #unsettling cw #ask to tag #my thoughts #my writing

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zarovich · 4 months

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👉👈👀 self destruction time?? for me???

#personal #good LORD im stressed having to put my plans on getting myself help on pause cuz my senior cat likely has cancer #everything is piling up for me and idk how to cope with it. id rather just give up tbh #truthfully i feel entirely alone but im too afraid to reach out to anyone cuz it seems bad things follow me and its easier to isolate #i fear i may be genuinely fucked up beyond repair haha oh well #i just hope my cat gets better at least shes not beyond help. worried sick

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keeps-ache · 7 months

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redesign :D

#art #my art #artists on tumblr #digital art #oc #pink space #RIP the ponytail lol #though when i first drew her i hadn't liked it very much and was like 'that'll prolly be temporary' And Then I Didn't Change It For Like A #Year Lmao #so this was bound to happen #+ it was cuz i didn't know what to do for her head's silhouette but i've figured that out so now i hardly draw the ponytail loll #//next will be either Kira or Hid's ref!! depending on which one my brain can get the least undefined about hfvhs #//also i kinda really love how her redesign turned out hfhhd #i could never figure out how i wanted her to dress because when i was drawing her up i #1) was a little afraid of making her look too [you know gesture] for Reasons lol [<- is so vague for no reason]#and 2) if the clothes were Cool but didn't cover enough it must been Bad. i have no idea where this idea came from lol!! but beGONE #//OH yea and i never explain any of the lore for this story ever but i like to explain and justify decisions a lot so how 'bout that hfhvs #/so in this world a good chunk of society has heat-based powers (no other kind) so emergency responders/enforcers need fire-proof gear #Aura never wears hers right because well. they Feel Bad (cursing her with The Big Coat Is Hell lolll)#there Is a coat to this ensemble. mmm no i will not be drawing it for a while hfsvh #+ the axe is because of the whole The Gods Will Give You A Sick Weapon As A Sign Of Alliance And Protection thing #but honestly if i get talking about the Gods i won't stop for the next 8 paragraphs lol #/i've had this story for a year. there's a lot hsbvfabfj #my brother has listened to me explain the thing like 5 times. because he doesn't remember what i tell him and neither of us can stay on #topic ever Hfhsv #//but yeah gonna spin in circles forever now!! and maybe rub my feet raw on the carpet again tryna learn this dance :3 tooooodles

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justtasia · 6 months

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MORE, MORE BLOOD PACKS AND DAYLIGHT FINALLY ARRIVED!!!

I feel a huge need to show them soooo welcome in my unboxing/showing off bad financial choices post~! <3

At first photo there's my new purchases, the second shows how it fits into my full DL merch collection:

I'm really happy that now each of my top 5 diaboys (except Shu, but he has some kind of CD cancellation curse that doesn't let me get any) has at least two CDs related to them.

In the case of More, More Blood, I bought the deluxe version, so if you are curious what it looks like from the inside, I put the rest under the cut ⬇️⬇️⬇️

The first thing I noticed about these boxes is that they differ in more than just the covers!

The sand in the hourglass is flowing more and more with each volume. In the case of my dramas it's a little ragged, but with the full collection (or at least less extreme numbers compared) it definitely looks great. Also in place where the box opens there's small family crest which is really nice detail too!

But we're all here for the contents, not just to look at a foil-wrapped box (btw I can't imagine how people can keep this things in their original obi for years. I don't have as much control over my curiosity) so here we go:

As you can see, there are two CDs: the first with the main drama, the second with the ~10-15 minute bonus "Another Story", a tin badge and an illustration card. This card has also a diaboy comment/short description related to the plot of the CD on it's back. (For me the concept is a bit similar to Daylight's "message from vampire", but I feel like those things are more like cool teaser when daylight lettrers are good to read after listening to daylight to make you cry even more)

#༻just Tasia things༺#diabolik lovers #diabolik lovers merch #diabolik lovers cd drama #I'm seriously afraid that PluShu is the only thing I'll have with him because this is the THIRD time when HIS VOLUME has been uncollectable #and later I will make a list of the contents of illustration cards because I haven't seen anyone do it #later because right now I'm too excited abt it to do it properly #and probably if something has been shared yet #I will think about how to share these audios with you #cuz sharing is caring aya--#btw I encourage you to support the creators but only buy albums that you have listened to and know that they met your expectations #this type of fandom stuff is really a luxurious whim so it's better not to feel disappointed after the fact #diaboys characterization and MC impact on story can be very different and change from album to album #so even if you like one of them more than your life better be sure that you won't consider it a mistake at the end #*cough* happened to me once #you can guess which one it was. the winner gets... idk I'll figure it out later

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madd-nix · 7 months

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if i go to jail for strangling my brother, just know he tried to kill me first by bringing over his girlfriend 's cat all the time, knowing i'm allergic

#me talking #vent #rant #for legal reasons this is a joke #but seriously i have not been able to smell and/or breathe right almost all year cuz of them #the excuse is her door doesn't lock so she's afraid the dogs might hurt the cat #BUY A FUCKING LOCK #OR STAY AT HER HOUSE TO WATCH THE CAT AND NOT COME TO OUR HOUSE #like i was nice at first about it cuz i thought it would be an infrequent thing and that he'd keep up with cleaning his room #but the cat lives in his room half the time now and he doesn't keep up with cleaning #and i'm just constantly stuffy and feel on the verge of being sick a lot of the time #and i had to renew my asthma inhaler prescription for the first time back in the spring #after not needing it for like 7+ years #and when i once asked him to vacuum his room while his gf could hear #apparently that upset her and 'made her not feel welcome here' and that i had to apologize #i did not apologize cuz fuck you! you're the ones not allowing me to breathe in my own home!#my brother is a fucking idiot #i'm so tired of playing nice with them #i might just send him a link to how cat dander travels along with where to buy door locks #i hate my brother sometimes i really do

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nobodywritingao3 · 2 months

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#ive already expressed what i want to express but i still feel jorrible #i havent felt this badly triggered in months #my skin is crawling' heart wont stop beating' ears are ringing' cant sit still but cant focus on anything #the mental health center isuakly go to already closed for the day #i dont trust myseld to drive anywhere #i know im safe but my body is on fire #i cant stop worrying #theres a part of me that i resent that is afraid that w.soot is gonna try to kill himself #at the same time i feel so sick at all the stuff hes done #all the women coming forward specifically #ive lost faith in someone i really admires #oddly enough im not having flashbacks?#memory loops definitely #i want to sleep but my body literally cannot stop shaking #i have been shaking for hours #i think its literally been 10 hours at this point of non stop shaking #i dont want to admit myself to a psych ward but i think im reaching a point where i might have to go #i havent been there in over a year & i hate it cuz the temperature controls are broken and they wake you up at 5am to make sure youre alive #im safe but i dont want to be alone with this #i dont want to be awake right now #my body wont stop shaking

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amarrymeinbostonwriter · 1 year

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Wow. Sometimes I'm very lucky and my bipolar doesn't always affect me much. But no such luck lately. I'm worried that I might have to retake my modern lit course because I was so late with many of my assignments. I've been mentally messed up more or less with a mixed mood episode since last September. I'm currently on the line of passing and not passing the class (granted there are a few ungraded assignments, including my final so it's still possible that I'm overreacting). I'm usually a good student too so it's a point of pride for me. I went from the honor roll to this all due to me fighting with an illness... :/ (It is my fault for not managing things better so I'm not looking for pity here- just talking).

I cannot imagine how horrible this disorder is for people who didn't have the option of medication (I am medicated, believe it or not). I think about that about that a lot since I study history and look into many writer's and artist's biographies in my spare time. I feel very bad for them since they basically had to live with this disorder without the fixes I have simply because I was born late enough for treatments to exist.

Virginia Woolf and Sylvia Plath both haunt me. Other people too. Yes, Lord Byron was extremely shocking but consider- we don't actually know what he would have been like if he could have been treated. He wouldn't have died at 36, I'm almost certain of that. I am highly aware of what this disorder has done to people before me. It doesn't make it better. But I keep looking back any way, to see that many of them did incredible things, in spite of it all.

I just keep thinking that if they could do so much without any treatment- that I should be able to function with treatment??? I know: don't compare yourself to other people but I'm desperate to know that I can be successful even with this illness. That it's not going to force me to leave school (the one thing I have been historically good at) and waste my life toiling away for nothing.

So if it seems as if I have been hitting my head against something lately, you aren't wrong. The fall is not generally my friend, pretty as the leaves are. I have not been having a good time of it but we must go on any way because what other option is there? None, I tell you.

#leaves pretty brain shitty has been my fall for the last few years since 2018 at least...#consistently fall has been bad for my cycle though I like that time of year normally #granted a lot of things kept happening every fall since 2018 too #bipolar disorder #actually bipolar #I probably am a closet perfectionist in some cases #I am exhausted thanks for asking!#and yes for a few semesters I was an honor roll student in my grad school- not any more though LOL #seriously I'm going into debt for this degree and uh that promise to waive our debt never came to light so I'm very fucked rn #I have to finish this degree so I can work off my debt and build a good reputation for myself #I'm honestly afraid my illness might take away my ability to have a career at all; I'm desperate for a living wage!#it's not good #but this could be anxiety talking tbh #for real I'm amazed that like Virginia Woolf and others were able to do as much as they did in their lives #because without my medication I'd probably be useless??? Mania is not fun 10/10 would NOT suggest #I actually pity Lord Byron after reading his biography; he just seems like if mania was a person and um it explains his behavior completely #do you ever look back at other peoples' lives and see pieces of yourself in them and then feel really bad for them? cuz I do all the time #mychatter #I'm stubborn in that I refuse to quit school since I am aware that my family needs to know I can do this #please don't take this personally this is my problem and a pointless rant probably

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